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Post by Torquayterrier on May 15, 2015 12:24:43 GMT 1
For Blackpool Football Club to get a point from the game is absolutely ridiculous. We should have been in a winning position after 48 minutes of football against an already relegated and fairly demoralised side, then we'd have got the points.
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Post by Tinpot on May 15, 2015 12:28:42 GMT 1
This is a good read. Karma I say, for acting like a bunch of big girls because you missed out on 40 minutes of football. Just think - if you'd had the foresight to do that in every game this season, you'd still be in the championship. Karma? The turmoil at your tinpot club certainly is.
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 15, 2015 12:35:14 GMT 1
I hope the Oystons run your club forever. I also hope that when, in two years' time, you are drawing 0-0 at Grimsby on the last day, needing a win to stay in the Football League, you can be sure that there will be hundreds of HUDDERSFIELD fans invading the pitch causing the game to be abandoned. I hope that the FL will be as even-handed as they were today. I'd gladly pay to be there for that one. Then we'll see how much of a smug bastard you really are! Definately bookmarking this thread and giving it a bump when you go down next year Good luck in your local derbies against the juggernauts of Fleetwood next season, they ll run your three players ragged! Give Grimsby a when you head into the Conference North in a few years time, Stockport are waiting for ya!
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Post by jimmymcgill on May 15, 2015 13:27:14 GMT 1
This decision could impact us if FL use same system of seeding for FL cup 1st. round.Last year clubs down to 15th were seeded so ensuring a game against lower level teams.Town in 16th. place will not be seeded but Beeston will - surely Clibbens et al pointed this out or didn't they?
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Post by pjr43 on May 15, 2015 15:12:25 GMT 1
The issue of finishing position only really comes into play for the second round and it's not necessarily true that Leeds will be seeded and that we won't. It depends how many of the clubs who finished above us get through the first round, but it could definitely turn out that we miss out on being seeded in the second round as a result of finishing sixteenth instead of fifteenth.
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 15, 2015 15:29:41 GMT 1
We have not 'finished' at all...there is still and always will be 40 odd minutes left of 2014/15 season..
the club could commemorate it each season we don't have anything to play for in the last game by just not coming out for the second half?
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on May 15, 2015 15:40:42 GMT 1
We have not 'finished' at all...there is still and always will be 40 odd minutes left of 2014/15 season.. the club could commemorate it each season we don't have anything to play for in the last game by just not coming out for the second half? As per the league ruling yesterday we have. Their decision completes our fixtures regardless of the events of that day in Blackpool. We should move on but the seedings of Round 2 of the Carling Cup could be affected, only tell will tell.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 15:46:15 GMT 1
We have not 'finished' at all...there is still and always will be 40 odd minutes left of 2014/15 season.. the club could commemorate it each season we don't have anything to play for in the last game by just not coming out for the second half? As per the league ruling yesterday we have. Their decision completes our fixtures regardless of the events of that day in Blackpool. We should move on but the seedings of Round 2 of the Carling Cup could be affected, only tell will tell. The decision completes Blackpool's fixtures too but they've charged them with failing to fulfil a fixture. Go figure.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on May 15, 2015 15:50:13 GMT 1
As per the league ruling yesterday we have. Their decision completes our fixtures regardless of the events of that day in Blackpool. We should move on but the seedings of Round 2 of the Carling Cup could be affected, only tell will tell. The decision completes Blackpool's fixtures too but they've charged them with failing to fulfil a fixture. Go figure. That'll be the Football League for you, just as they stated that results should be decided on the field of play whilst they decided a result sat in their boardroom.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 15:59:06 GMT 1
The issue of finishing position only really comes into play for the second round and it's not necessarily true that Leeds will be seeded and that we won't. It depends how many of the clubs who finished above us get through the first round, but it could definitely turn out that we miss out on being seeded in the second round as a result of finishing sixteenth instead of fifteenth. We don't do cup runs
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Post by bfcoutcast on May 15, 2015 16:33:22 GMT 1
i wouldnt worry about us dropping out the football league. our chairman has just put in a tender to demolish the stadium, so the club will be gone soon enough
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 17:05:08 GMT 1
i wouldnt worry about us dropping out the football league. our chairman has just put in a tender to demolish the stadium, so the club will be gone soon enough I can see why, the fans don't appear to want anyone using the pitch to play football on. Might as well demolish it and put it to good use.
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Post by bfcoutcast on May 15, 2015 17:08:31 GMT 1
its good for us blackpool fans. means we could start again with a new blackpool fc. I dont think he can own the name if he closes the company
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Post by huddersfc on May 15, 2015 17:35:50 GMT 1
If he gets rid of the club, does that mean Oyston can still sit on the football league board or would he be removed?
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Post by bfcoutcast on May 15, 2015 18:42:38 GMT 1
well if we all pool in for an assassin
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 19:16:01 GMT 1
well if we all pool in for an assassin I completed Hitman Blood Money on professional mode for the Playstation, I'm fairly cheap and reckon I could do a job.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 15, 2015 20:44:07 GMT 1
I get that for folks who went it's not a simple fact, they paid good money and I hope they somehow get a refund for that. Maybe Otium having us to finish above Leeds will cost him a gazillion pounds is also something that might impact folks. Equally if your life revolves around finishing above Leeds you can at least claim the only way we were denied the opportunity was from an off the field decision. At least it means the arguments will drone on for a few months until the new season starts... But for all the histrionics on here, letters to the FL etc. It was a dead rubber. The FL would clearly have acted differently if there had been something riding on the game because whichever side bore the brunt of their decision would take them to court (maybe not Oyston mind...). If it did decide something I also expect they would have arrested/towed off the pitch invaders on the day and got the game finished... I imagine the FL will ALWAYS consider precedents being set in these scenarios & that the 2 clubs will have been informed of the decision beforehand to ensure there was no disagreement. As it didn't affect our prize money or their wooden spoon it was accepted in good faith... My take on the players view... Town player... 'receives tweet about news story', goes to link for the story, reads for 15 seconds, goes back to sunbathing... Blackpool player... 'receives tweet about news story', goes to link for the story, reads for 15 seconds, goes back to sunbathing, happy that Oyston will be paying him his '0 goals bonus'... Hope the fans get their money back, hope the world moves on. 13 pages about a non-event, classic DATM... This post is so far wrong. I only had £50 on, thats not the issue for me...its an incredible and totally wrong precendent. Its he equivalent of accepting a Fatwah to kill Rushdie for writing fiction because no-one wanted to offend Moslem sensibilities. Its plainly WRONG...play the game again in August, but Hell fire no...dont give Blackpool a point. Wrong by a million miles.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 15, 2015 20:47:17 GMT 1
lackpool fans have shot themselves in the foot with this. If they had any magnanimity they would encourage the FL to give us the points. Lost all sypmathy with them and now i hope they go bankrupt at Oystons expense. Really angry.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2015 21:08:21 GMT 1
I'd be surprised if they've set a precedent Oti. I'm no statto but expect very similar incidents with the same outcome (i.e. abandoned game due to non-football & non H&S matters) have had different rulings, hence no precedent set on those occasions. Why would this be any different?
I've said above that I hope folk who lost out get some compensation but in the scheme of things is it really worth getting so angry about something that has so little impact on your life?
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Post by cecerececerececere on May 15, 2015 23:22:09 GMT 1
Like most Town fans before the game I was completely behind the blackpool fans protests.
After the abandonment i thought they had gone a tad too far but i understood their position.
After reading their comments on here i hope they go bust....no class, you and Oyston deserve each other.
Cod Army! No.1 on the Fylde coast 2015/16 season! Enjoy non-league football Tangerines, good riddence.
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Post by thenuggett on May 16, 2015 5:31:38 GMT 1
Next season we as a crowd should hold up pictures of the Football League Board dressed in clown suits in the 48th minute as a protest to this lily livered decision .
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 8:08:04 GMT 1
Like most Town fans before the game I was completely behind the blackpool fans protests. After the abandonment i thought they had gone a tad too far but i understood their position. After reading their comments on here i hope they go bust....no class, you and Oyston deserve each other. Cod Army! No.1 on the Fylde coast 2015/16 season! Enjoy non-league football Tangerines, good riddence. The couple of idiots that came on here haven't done their cause much good I agree, but every club has them including us. Raisin is a shining example of a Blackpool supporter with class. downatthemac.proboards.com/search/results?who_at_least_one=13591&ga_client_id=79106666.1431547063&display_as=0
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Post by Fantastic Mediocre on May 16, 2015 8:18:40 GMT 1
Does a club's final league placing affect the players' wages or end of season bonuses? If so by how much? Does this decision affect any payments paid to Huddersfield Town players? If Huddersfield Town players were to end up out of pocket as a result of the Football League decision could they put a claim in for 'loss of earning' and would Huddersfield Town support such a claim which would ultimately come out of Town's pocket?
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2015 12:31:12 GMT 1
Does a club's final league placing affect the players' wages or end of season bonuses? If so by how much? Does this decision affect any payments paid to Huddersfield Town players? If Huddersfield Town players were to end up out of pocket as a result of the Football League decision could they put a claim in for 'loss of earning' and would Huddersfield Town support such a claim which would ultimately come out of Town's pocket? By the tone of your post I guess you have heard something similair to what I have.
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Post by terrier25 on May 16, 2015 12:38:11 GMT 1
Next season we as a crowd should hold up pictures of the Football League Board dressed in clown suits in the 48th minute as a protest to this lily livered decision . We should countdown 10 seconds before the 48th minute of every game and then cheer/boo/clap whatever the 'result' is and leave the stadium. These clowns, with self interest (Mr Harvey) have devalued football.
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Post by softboy on May 16, 2015 18:49:21 GMT 1
Rotherham were deducted 3 points (and rightly so) for fielding an ineligle player. Blackpool were AWARDED 1 point for failing to fulfil a fixture. They did not have that point before the match started.
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Post by Fantastic Mediocre on May 16, 2015 18:50:33 GMT 1
Does a club's final league placing affect the players' wages or end of season bonuses? If so by how much? Does this decision affect any payments paid to Huddersfield Town players? If Huddersfield Town players were to end up out of pocket as a result of the Football League decision could they put a claim in for 'loss of earning' and would Huddersfield Town support such a claim which would ultimately come out of Town's pocket? By the tone of your post I guess you have heard something similar to what I have. I do not know what you have heard but I would like to know... "What discussions took place prior to the game? In particular, any discussions between Blackpool FC, Lancashire Police and any other officials who were responsible for 'safety and stewarding' inside the stadium?" The planned invasion and eventual abandonment, although unofficial, were public knowledge. I find it incredible to believe that it hadn't been discussed prior to the game and a plan of action decided upon. I look forward to seeing the responses of the Lancashire Police Force.
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 16, 2015 18:54:25 GMT 1
Rotherham were deducted 3 points (and rightly so) for fielding an ineligle player. Blackpool were AWARDED 1 point for failing to fulfil a fixture. They did not have that point before the match started. That's the FL for you, utterly bonkers, I can just imagine the suits sat round a big table wearing clown masks eating jelly and blowing up balloons! Morons all of them!
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Post by softboy on May 16, 2015 19:08:43 GMT 1
I think it is pretty clear that Blackpool Football Club, Stewards, Police knew exactly what was going to happen and decided to do nothing. Non of them did anything to stop the pitch invasion and certainly made no attempt to clear the pitch. For those who were there it was pretty obvious that non of them had any intention of doing anything about it - that is the point that gets most peoples goat.
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Post by softboy on May 16, 2015 19:13:20 GMT 1
Even the police guy with a video on a stick was more interested in filming town fans rather than those Blackpool fans in the centre circle. Perhaps he thought "one on them might say a naughty word and we can then make an arrest". Total inactivity from steawrds and police!
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