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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 8:37:00 GMT 1
The thing is though and again Im not saying this is down to DATM, before I get misinterpreted, but people nowadays form an opinion based on what people say on the internet. When I'm choosing a restaurant to go to, I look at peoples reviews. When you buy something off amazon or whatever you can see what people say about it. Why would it be any different for football? It's probably my age but the last thing i do is look at what other people think about a restaurant or hotel or product, i'd rather find out for myself. On my theory that 90% of people that pass comment generally do just to complain, often for the sake of it. Alot of people do it. My Mum and Dad check peoples reviews of things they buy online. Its the same with films (for Me, not them).
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Post by Melc on Sept 2, 2015 8:59:25 GMT 1
After yesterdays events the club will be lucky to get us mugs that have spent money on season tickets going down, never mind the one's that stay away! Watched this club for fifty five years and they are driving the passion out of me by the day! When Dean Hoyle bought the club we had a new belief that things where about to change. Now I feel the club is dying, no spark, no ambition, and a brand of football that has become a chore to go down and watch.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 2, 2015 9:01:17 GMT 1
After yesterdays events the club will be lucky to get us mugs that have spent money on season tickets going down, never mind the one's that stay away! Watched this club for fifty five years and they are driving the passion out of me by the day! When Dean Hoyle bought the club we had a new belief that things where about to change. Now I feel the club is dying, no spark, no ambition, and a brand of football that has become a chore to go down and watch. You must have had a sojourn between 1972 and 79 ? Or maybe the Internet has multiplied your drama queen quotient by 1000% ?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 2, 2015 9:11:40 GMT 1
It's amazing that people all of a sudden want to slam the quality of football. When has it been better? One or two seasons, maybe. It can be dull at times, but when has this ever not been the case? Im not that big on looking backwards but we have had some very exciting seasons here.. not always because we were doing well, not intitially anyway.. dull football which gets results might get away with it at Town this season, given our obvious lack of any type of clout in the market or even with some of our own players.. sadly, we might keep the games 'tight' but its more probable we will lose them than win them.. The 'quality' of football at times does make you blink and have to convince yourself we are in the championship and almost 12 million quid a year goes out in wages.. so no its not good enough, often enough to say 'when has it been better?'.. Its a different expectation that we have now and quite rightly given where we are and how much the club and us pay to watch it.. We cant be here and pretend we are not, its laughable at times, if it wasnt so annoying..
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 2, 2015 9:17:02 GMT 1
Yesterday's events at the club were engineered by a player demanding to leave for his perceived belief he will reach the promised land,a similar belief Clayton had. If you don't want to support your local team through thick and thin,which at the moment is thick ie championship we will no doubt follow the rest of the town,little entertainment venues ,shops,cinemas ,youth clubs etc etc all gone through lack of support,worst it's been in 55 years you are having a laugh ,what a drama queen.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 2, 2015 9:23:25 GMT 1
After yesterdays events the club will be lucky to get us mugs that have spent money on season tickets going down, never mind the one's that stay away! Watched this club for fifty five years and they are driving the passion out of me by the day! When Dean Hoyle bought the club we had a new belief that things where about to change. Now I feel the club is dying, no spark, no ambition, and a brand of football that has become a chore to go down and watch. You must have had a sojourn between 1972 and 79 ? Or maybe the Internet has multiplied your drama queen quotient by 1000% ? It's alright reeling this argument out every time Ted but there's plenty more that feel the same, just look at the crowds. It would be interesting to see the numbers of season ticket holders who don't turn up to every game. I bet it would open a few eyes. Does that make everyone a drama queen? Does it bollocks, it just means that people are fed up and would rather do something else. I'm a season ticket holder and i've missed 1 of the 3 games so far because we had friends come up from down south that weekend. There was a time when i would have looked at the fixture list when organising such things, now i don't bother i just ask them when it's convenient for them. My brother is over from Belfast for the next home game, if it's nice weather we'll be going to play golf rather than go to the match. As for 1972 to 1979 I (and by the sounds of it Melc) was just a kid and knew no better. I loved going down to Leeds Road with my mates and messing about on the terraces. We had a laugh no matter how shite the football was. We and you are a lot older now and a lot less tolerant of mediocrity, it comes with age. So lets stop rolling out the old argument of things have been a lot worse because it's just irrelevant.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 2, 2015 9:27:23 GMT 1
You are a lot older .. maybe the kids of today like messing about on the terraces and maybe your dad n grandad were moaning like troopers back then !! Not to say there aren't concerns cos there are .. but basically we have never had it so good !
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 2, 2015 9:28:48 GMT 1
If the football was mediocre we would not be in the championship,it's usually battling.How many teams have been to the John Smiths over the last 3 seasons and played entertaining football for 90 mins, answer very few.It takes two teams to entertain don't just blame Town.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 2, 2015 9:30:52 GMT 1
I've been going through thick, thin and very thin. I enjoy the rare thick bits because of not despite the thin times.
Wether anyone else turns up other than diehards is of little consequence to me - I understand it, don't judge it and in an entertainment industry the onus is upon the entertainers to entertain.
If 3,000 people want to go to Fulham for a good day out only for 1,000 to turn up the next year doesn't annoy me either - if we had won the first few games, more would have gone.
But I wish they'd stop believing they have to justify their non attendance and judging people who are striving for, if not always achieving, success - they have a pretty no lose existence; Town are successful and they come and enjoy it, Town are "crap" and they don't have to bother.
Best thing so far this season has been the South stand. I don't go in myself (never been a singer, more an appreciater) but it shows what can happen when loyal supporters decide to get off their arses and do something positive.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 2, 2015 9:32:31 GMT 1
If the football was mediocre we would not be in the championship,it's usually battling.How many teams have been to the John Smiths over the last 3 seasons and played entertaining football for 90 mins, answer very few.It takes two teams to entertain don't just blame Town. You won't find me blaming Town too often, I keep saying it on here that the whole thing has become stale for me and it needs a massive shakeup in my opinion. But it won't happen so I guess eventually i'll just find something else to do.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 2, 2015 9:35:22 GMT 1
I've been going through thick, thin and very thin. I enjoy the rare thick bits because of not despite the thin times. Wether anyone else turns up other than diehards is of little consequence to me - I understand it, don't judge it and in an entertainment industry the onus is upon the entertainers to entertain. If 3,000 people want to go to Fulham for a good day out only for 1,000 to turn up the next year doesn't annoy me either - if we had won the first few games, more would have gone. But I wish they'd stop believing they have to justify their non attendance and judging people who are striving for, if not always achieving, success - they have a pretty no lose existence; Town are successful and they come and enjoy it, Town are "crap" and they don't have to bother. Best thing so far this season has been the South stand. I don't go in myself (never been a singer, more an appreciater) but it shows what can happen when loyal supporters decide to get off their arses and do something positive. People have no choice but to justify their non attendance because they are constantly being told by those others that you speak of that they are drama queens or ungrateful. It works both ways.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 2, 2015 9:50:20 GMT 1
I've been going through thick, thin and very thin. I enjoy the rare thick bits because of not despite the thin times. Wether anyone else turns up other than diehards is of little consequence to me - I understand it, don't judge it and in an entertainment industry the onus is upon the entertainers to entertain. If 3,000 people want to go to Fulham for a good day out only for 1,000 to turn up the next year doesn't annoy me either - if we had won the first few games, more would have gone. But I wish they'd stop believing they have to justify their non attendance and judging people who are striving for, if not always achieving, success - they have a pretty no lose existence; Town are successful and they come and enjoy it, Town are "crap" and they don't have to bother. Best thing so far this season has been the South stand. I don't go in myself (never been a singer, more an appreciater) but it shows what can happen when loyal supporters decide to get off their arses and do something positive. People have no choice but to justify their non attendance because they are constantly being told by those others that you speak of that they are drama queens or ungrateful. It works both ways. Only on here. Real life is different.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Sept 2, 2015 10:44:25 GMT 1
At the start of LAST season, Sean Jarvis said that the board were going to look at ways to get more bums on seats at Town games. That worked then.
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Post by Melc on Sept 2, 2015 10:54:35 GMT 1
After yesterdays events the club will be lucky to get us mugs that have spent money on season tickets going down, never mind the one's that stay away! Watched this club for fifty five years and they are driving the passion out of me by the day! When Dean Hoyle bought the club we had a new belief that things where about to change. Now I feel the club is dying, no spark, no ambition, and a brand of football that has become a chore to go down and watch. You must have had a sojourn between 1972 and 79 ? Or maybe the Internet has multiplied your drama queen quotient by 1000% ? Yes the 70's where a bad period, but that was then not now! As for the drama queen quote, it is just my opinion like your 20,000 posts on here!
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Sept 2, 2015 11:39:57 GMT 1
£30 Me AND the wife can go out for the evening and have a nice meal for that. What's more we're seated comfortably in a nice warm and dry environment. On the other hand I can go and sit on a cold hard seat with rain being blown into my face while watching overpaid footballers kicking a ball about. For the life inside me I can't think why I'd do the latter.
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Post by upthetown on Sept 2, 2015 11:43:51 GMT 1
£30 Me AND the wife can go out for the evening and have a nice meal for that. What's more we're seated comfortably in a nice warm and dry environment. On the other hand I can go and sit on a cold hard seat with rain being blown into my face while watching overpaid footballers kicking a ball about. For the life inside me I can't think why I'd do the latter. Were the seats comfier in previous seasons? The weather better? I'm a season ticket holder, have been for 22 years. The walk up price does look expensive though these days. I seem to think it was about £12-13 at Leeds Road when I started going. Even when we are doing well the attendances don't seem to change by that much, apart from for the odd big game.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 2, 2015 11:45:39 GMT 1
£30 Me AND the wife can go out for the evening and have a nice meal for that. What's more we're seated comfortably in a nice warm and dry environment. On the other hand I can go and sit on a cold hard seat with rain being blown into my face while watching overpaid footballers kicking a ball about. For the life inside me I can't think why I'd do the latter. Go and enjoy your meal then. If you don't like watching Town or don't think it is good value, fair enough, but the comparison you are making between (with a little research) a pretty much guaranteed entertainment and the uncertainty of a sporting event (which is actually the whole point) is pretty ludicrous. And if it is so bad being a Town supporter I can't, for the life inside me, think why you would want to frequent a message board dedicated to being one. (You can watch Town for much less than £30 per game, by the way).
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Post by benhomly on Sept 2, 2015 11:46:20 GMT 1
£30 Me AND the wife can go out for the evening and have a nice meal for that. What's more we're seated comfortably in a nice warm and dry environment. On the other hand I can go and sit on a cold hard seat with rain being blown into my face while watching overpaid footballers kicking a ball about. For the life inside me I can't think why I'd do the latter. Were the seats comfier in previous seasons? The weather better? I'm a season ticket holder, have been for 22 years. The walk up price does look expensive though these days. I seem to think it was about £12-13 at Leeds Road when I started going. Even when we are doing well the attendances don't seem to change by that much, apart from for the odd big game.That has always been the case though, even when we were winning championships.
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Post by upthetown on Sept 2, 2015 11:48:01 GMT 1
Were the seats comfier in previous seasons? The weather better? I'm a season ticket holder, have been for 22 years. The walk up price does look expensive though these days. I seem to think it was about £12-13 at Leeds Road when I started going. Even when we are doing well the attendances don't seem to change by that much, apart from for the odd big game.That has always been the case though, even when we were winning championships. And under Rubbery. So spending more on players, winning games, doesn't see a big increase in bums on seats. I don't even if the price was £20 on the gate it would have made much difference either.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Sept 2, 2015 11:55:53 GMT 1
Yesterday's events at the club were engineered by a player demanding to leave for his perceived belief he will reach the promised land,a similar belief Clayton had. If you don't want to support your local team through thick and thin,which at the moment is thick ie championship we will no doubt follow the rest of the town,little entertainment venues ,shops,cinemas ,youth clubs etc etc all gone through lack of support,worst it's been in 55 years you are having a laugh ,what a drama queen. You neglect the fact that the expectation has been raised by the club heirachy itself, for much of the last 40 years of me watching we have been shite and haven't had expectation raised much above that. Cost of admission outstripping inflation massively year on year with no measured increase in either entertainment or excitement certainly won't get the floating fans flocking down. Your correct its nowhere near as bad as we've seen it before but that is no basis to move forward, if you charge higher prices and raise expectation you can't expect no one to be concerned when the product is poor ? However you dress it up we've not won this season and the football hasn't been very good.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2015 12:20:28 GMT 1
I've been going through thick, thin and very thin. I enjoy the rare thick bits because of not despite the thin times. Wether anyone else turns up other than diehards is of little consequence to me - I understand it, don't judge it and in an entertainment industry the onus is upon the entertainers to entertain. If 3,000 people want to go to Fulham for a good day out only for 1,000 to turn up the next year doesn't annoy me either - if we had won the first few games, more would have gone. But I wish they'd stop believing they have to justify their non attendance and judging people who are striving for, if not always achieving, success - they have a pretty no lose existence; Town are successful and they come and enjoy it, Town are "crap" and they don't have to bother. Best thing so far this season has been the South stand. I don't go in myself (never been a singer, more an appreciater) but it shows what can happen when loyal supporters decide to get off their arses and do something positive.
"Wether anyone else turns up other than the diehards is of little consequence to me" !
Then why bother to post on a thread called Lack of fans ?
It is an important matter as far as I am concerned, It is even more important as far as the clubs future is concerned.
The stay awayers do not need to justify why they don't go anymore or as often as they may have in the past, It is the club who need to justify why they should attend.
As already stated, You can have an afternoon playing golf for a lower price than a 2 hour Town match.
And I will not have the " you can get tickets cheaper ", Floaters may not decide to go to the game till the day of the match.
Forget about any social media bullshit sites, The majority of potential floaters in the area gain their information regarding Town from the Examiner and local radio and all they are seeing at the moment is players being sold.
Hoyle missed a trick imo in that we charged way too much for season tickets after our Wembley win, And Hoyley also needs to stop the we are up against it mantra, The regulars know that, The potential floaters certainly don't need to, Not at the beginning of the season anyway.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Sept 2, 2015 12:22:22 GMT 1
£30 Me AND the wife can go out for the evening and have a nice meal for that. What's more we're seated comfortably in a nice warm and dry environment. On the other hand I can go and sit on a cold hard seat with rain being blown into my face while watching overpaid footballers kicking a ball about. For the life inside me I can't think why I'd do the latter. Go and enjoy your meal then. If you don't like watching Town or don't think it is good value, fair enough, but the comparison you are making between (with a little research) a pretty much guaranteed entertainment and the uncertainty of a sporting event (which is actually the whole point) is pretty ludicrous. And if it is so bad being a Town supporter I can't, for the life inside me, think why you would want to frequent a message board dedicated to being one. (You can watch Town for much less than £30 per game, by the way). If you read the thread you will see it's about getting bums on seats. I, as someone who enjoys football, and who wants Town to do well is the very type of person that could provide one of those bums on seats. I also don't want the hassle of buying a ticket up front and would prefer the option of just turning up and handing my money over. But at £30. Not a chance and that's what the folk who run HTFC need to be thinking about.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Sept 2, 2015 12:23:47 GMT 1
I've been going through thick, thin and very thin. I enjoy the rare thick bits because of not despite the thin times. Wether anyone else turns up other than diehards is of little consequence to me - I understand it, don't judge it and in an entertainment industry the onus is upon the entertainers to entertain. If 3,000 people want to go to Fulham for a good day out only for 1,000 to turn up the next year doesn't annoy me either - if we had won the first few games, more would have gone. But I wish they'd stop believing they have to justify their non attendance and judging people who are striving for, if not always achieving, success - they have a pretty no lose existence; Town are successful and they come and enjoy it, Town are "crap" and they don't have to bother. Best thing so far this season has been the South stand. I don't go in myself (never been a singer, more an appreciater) but it shows what can happen when loyal supporters decide to get off their arses and do something positive.
"Wether anyone else turns up other than the diehards is of little consequence to me" !
Then why bother to post on a thread called Lack of fans ?
It is an important matter as far as I am concerned, It is even more important as far as the clubs future is concerned.
The stay awayers do not need to justify why they don't go anymore or as often as they may have in the past, It is the club who need to justify why they should attend.
As already stated, You can have an afternoon playing golf for a lower price than a 2 hour Town match.
And I will not have the " you can get tickets cheaper ", Floaters may not decide to go to the game till the day of the match.
Forget about any social media bullshit sites, The majority of potential floaters in the area gain their information regarding Town from the Examiner and local radio and all they are seeing at the moment is players being sold.
Hoyle missed a trick imo in that we charged way too much for season tickets after our Wembley win, And Hoyley also needs to stop the we are up against it mantra, The regulars know that, The potential floaters certainly don't need to, Not at the beginning of the season anyway.
Agree.
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Post by upthetown on Sept 2, 2015 12:24:53 GMT 1
Problem is even if it was £20 on the gate it wouldn't make that much difference.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 2, 2015 12:28:03 GMT 1
£30 Me AND the wife can go out for the evening and have a nice meal for that. What's more we're seated comfortably in a nice warm and dry environment. On the other hand I can go and sit on a cold hard seat with rain being blown into my face while watching overpaid footballers kicking a ball about. For the life inside me I can't think why I'd do the latter. Go and enjoy your meal then. If you don't like watching Town or don't think it is good value, fair enough, but the comparison you are making between (with a little research) a pretty much guaranteed entertainment and the uncertainty of a sporting event (which is actually the whole point) is pretty ludicrous. And if it is so bad being a Town supporter I can't, for the life inside me, think why you would want to frequent a message board dedicated to being one. (You can watch Town for much less than £30 per game, by the way). So the message board is just for those who wish to remain positive and accept everything that goes on at our club then is it? Jesus it would be as tedious as the football then if that were the case.
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Post by detox on Sept 2, 2015 12:37:21 GMT 1
At the start of LAST season, Sean Jarvis said that the board were going to look at ways to get more bums on seats at Town games. That worked then. Clibbens idea was to get fans to buy a ticket midweek by slapping on a matchday tax of £3..his logic was that it wouldn't then matter if they then changed their mind by the time Saturday came and decided to go shopping instead....
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Post by alanalanlee19 on Sept 2, 2015 12:40:48 GMT 1
What I don’t understand is why the club has no student prices, plus why are the tickets so high anyway. I myself haven’t been able to get a season ticket this season due to my Universtiy commitments in Loughborough, but I attend the games when I can and travel to away games close to my Uni.
I am shocked that there is no Student prices at the games.
I know they offer season tickets for Under 23’s but I can’t see that enticing any Huddersfield University students whilst they also are not in the Town for the whole year.
Huddersfield University has around 20 000 Students
Kirklees College has around 20 000 students
Greenhead and Huddersfield New College both have around 2500 students.
Then you have students like myself who simple can’t afford £30 for a match day ticket when I’m home for just a few times in the year. What amazes me, is the potentially to get maybe 2-3 thousand of these people into the ground, granted at least half of the students at both Greenhead and HNC are already qualified for the Under 18 ticket as well as a big majority from Kirklees College but that still leaves you around 30 000 students to entice. It seem that the club have taken the assumption that as soon you turn 18, you get a job and can afford to pay adult prices. I know so many people who have stopped going to games because of this.
As for match day walk up prices in general, they are disgusting, Huddersfield as a Town is first off not a very rich place, how can the club moan about low crowds when most matches are above 20 and sometime 30 pounds!! For the quality of football from our team over the last few season, these prices are simple too high. Surely you would get more fans in for a reasonable price, take a leaf out of Bradford City’s book. They had 18000 at the game against the mighty Shrewsbury, whereas we had 11000 against Premiership rejects QPR, I’ve even heard Town fans buying season tickets at Bradford, because of those prices.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Sept 2, 2015 12:42:01 GMT 1
Go and enjoy your meal then. If you don't like watching Town or don't think it is good value, fair enough, but the comparison you are making between (with a little research) a pretty much guaranteed entertainment and the uncertainty of a sporting event (which is actually the whole point) is pretty ludicrous. And if it is so bad being a Town supporter I can't, for the life inside me, think why you would want to frequent a message board dedicated to being one. (You can watch Town for much less than £30 per game, by the way). So the message board is just for those who wish to remain positive and accept everything that goes on at our club then is it? Jesus it would be as tedious as the football then if that were the case. Not at all - just seems odd that he doesn't want to go, prefers to spend his money on a night out with his wife (which is fair enough) but is bothered enough to tell us all about it. The main point was that the comparison was nonsense.
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Post by jimmythebulldog on Sept 2, 2015 13:09:36 GMT 1
Just bought 2 tickets for an early season Basketball game in Toronto - $240 per ticket.
I'm off to the baseball tonight - $130 per ticket.
I promise you, for watching professional sports 30 UK pounds is very very cheap - and you'll back in a few years and remember how cheap it was.
If attendances aren't going up - the club has a choice, either put up prices even more which seems would cause a mass revolt - or sell players like Smithies and Butterfield.
Cant have it both ways.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Sept 2, 2015 13:11:55 GMT 1
At the start of LAST season, Sean Jarvis said that the board were going to look at ways to get more bums on seats at Town games. That worked then. Clibbens idea was to get fans to buy a ticket midweek by slapping on a matchday tax of £3..his logic was that it wouldn't then matter if they then changed their mind by the time Saturday came and decided to go shopping instead.... That isn't true at all. Town can only charge away fans, the same price as they charge the home fans in a similar stand on the day of the game. Town gave the home fans a way of getting their ticket cheaper by reducing the price if they buy their ticket before match day.
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