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Sept 25, 2015 22:56:42 GMT 1
Post by York Terrier on Sept 25, 2015 22:56:42 GMT 1
Sorry ? I thought you was going to critique my opinion.. Shame Nice boy Ted It must be lonely all by yourself do you live in Marsden?
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Post by saintlyterrier on Sept 25, 2015 23:08:39 GMT 1
I know that Grant Holt is regarded as some kind of messiah, but in the couple of time I saw him last season, I was less than impressed, other than recognising he acted as some kind of spiritual talisman. If Miller were to play alongside a decent striker who ALSO works hard, we would reap dividends. Give the chap a break, and recognise Powell can only play the resources available. (Cue hiding behind sofa, to avoid being hit by "friendly fire".)
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 26, 2015 1:03:52 GMT 1
I like Miller but he didn't have a good game tonight. If anything it was as if he tried too hard and lacked a bit of composure. When he's fully fit and confident he'll be a real handful for opposition defenders. I'm afraid he IS fully fit Pete. What you see is as good as it gets - he ain't gonna turn into Usain Bolt or Thierry Henry with a few extra training sessions. Let's wait and see. Town supporters too quick to turn on their own players many of whom go on to prove them wrong over time
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2015 10:03:23 GMT 1
the set up has got us 7 points from 9 with 7 goals scored and 3 conceded. thats as good a 'start' to our new way of playing than most would/could hope for..
miller is part of that set up at the moment and can only improve along with everyone else if we stick to it and get used to playing it.
after wracking my brains I cant think of a player we could get/afford to come here instead at this moment, so I just suggest we back the manager and players for trying hard to do what most of us wanted them to do, especially if one week it does go tits up..
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 26, 2015 10:05:32 GMT 1
I know that Grant Holt is regarded as some kind of messiah, but in the couple of time I saw him last season, I was less than impressed, other than recognising he acted as some kind of spiritual talisman. If Miller were to play alongside a decent striker who ALSO works hard, we would reap dividends. Give the chap a break, and recognise Powell can only play the resources available. (Cue hiding behind sofa, to avoid being hit by "friendly fire".) Agreed. Started well but towards the end of loan spell he didn't really contribute
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Sept 26, 2015 11:42:53 GMT 1
Post by Big Ern on Sept 26, 2015 11:42:53 GMT 1
Miller bashing in full on mode again. Lad's doing a job for us. Deserves a bit more credit than he's getting IMO. He is a striker who doesn't score goals. He can jump about all he likes but the fact is he isn't putting the ball where we want it. In the net!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 11:54:55 GMT 1
Miller bashing in full on mode again. Lad's doing a job for us. Deserves a bit more credit than he's getting IMO. He is a striker who doesn't score goals. He can jump about all he likes but the fact is he isn't putting the ball where we want it. In the net! Maybe not, but the fact is he causes opposition defences problems, both Bolton and Charlton fans made several comments about him terrorising their CB's. He may be clumsy and highly error prone, but the fact is he has been instrumental in the improvement of our attacking play recently, he creates the space that gives the likes of Bunn and Huws a chance to flourish.
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Sept 26, 2015 11:56:37 GMT 1
Post by AndySk on Sept 26, 2015 11:56:37 GMT 1
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Sept 26, 2015 12:23:47 GMT 1
Post by Big Ern on Sept 26, 2015 12:23:47 GMT 1
He is a striker who doesn't score goals. He can jump about all he likes but the fact is he isn't putting the ball where we want it. In the net! Maybe not, but the fact is he causes opposition defences problems, both Bolton and Charlton fans made several comments about him terrorising their CB's. He may be clumsy and highly error prone, but the fact is he has been instrumental in the improvement of our attacking play recently, he creates the space that gives the likes of Bunn and Huws a chance to flourish. He causes them problems but most of our goals of late have come from long shots or deft finishes rather than from a loose ball released by Miller. He isn't useless but i believe we can and should have better up there.
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Sept 26, 2015 12:34:13 GMT 1
Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2015 12:34:13 GMT 1
odd how we all know what towns spending and recruitment policy is and yet some still argue for loan signings that are never specified or costed?
agreed this is down to towns financial director and the recruitment person with powells input etc but to believe we have not been looking for a striker during all the shenanigans with Vaughan is a little naieve?
miller 'does what it says on the tin'...if we can get him using his size and stature a bit more like a targetman he may well be more useful, more often. His 'better' games do seem to be when he commits more 'fouls'..
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 26, 2015 12:40:13 GMT 1
odd how we all know what towns spending and recruitment policy is and yet some still argue for loan signings that are never specified or costed? agreed this is down to towns financial director and the recruitment person with powells input etc but to believe we have not been looking for a striker during all the shenanigans with Vaughan is a little naieve? miller 'does what it says on the tin'...if we can get him using his size and stature a bit more like a targetman he may well be more useful, more often. His 'better' games do seem to be when he commits more 'fouls'.. We know we have been looking for better. We trialed Ameobi and I believe we are currently trialing Leon Best. We have Vaughan to come back in too. I don't know why we have such an obsession as a club with a big target man, games can be won without them.
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Sept 26, 2015 12:43:49 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 12:43:49 GMT 1
odd how we all know what towns spending and recruitment policy is and yet some still argue for loan signings that are never specified or costed? agreed this is down to towns financial director and the recruitment person with powells input etc but to believe we have not been looking for a striker during all the shenanigans with Vaughan is a little naieve?
miller 'does what it says on the tin'...if we can get him using his size and stature a bit more like a targetman he may well be more useful, more often. His 'better' games do seem to be when he commits more 'fouls'.. I think it's more a reluctance to spend some of the Smithies/Butterfield millions that being unsuccessful in finding replacements. We had plenty of time to step into the transfer market, if DH's account is correct of Butterfield not wanting to play for Town with immediate effect, as soon as the first offer came in from Derby.
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Sept 26, 2015 12:53:57 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2015 12:53:57 GMT 1
Maybe not, but the fact is he causes opposition defences problems, both Bolton and Charlton fans made several comments about him terrorising their CB's. He may be clumsy and highly error prone, but the fact is he has been instrumental in the improvement of our attacking play recently, he creates the space that gives the likes of Bunn and Huws a chance to flourish. He causes them problems but most of our goals of late have come from long shots or deft finishes rather than from a loose ball released by Miller. He isn't useless but i believe we can and should have better up there. Yes but somebody had to help create the space for those shots to be taken and that's what he's doing. Of course we need better players but at the moment he's doing an OK job.
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Sept 26, 2015 12:59:50 GMT 1
Post by Big Ern on Sept 26, 2015 12:59:50 GMT 1
He causes them problems but most of our goals of late have come from long shots or deft finishes rather than from a loose ball released by Miller. He isn't useless but i believe we can and should have better up there. Yes but somebody had to help create the space for those shots to be taken and that's what he's doing. Of course we need better players but at the moment he's doing an OK job. Agreed on the OK job. I think if we nail that position in january we will have a damn fine team.
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Sept 26, 2015 13:22:31 GMT 1
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Post by wtd on Sept 26, 2015 13:22:31 GMT 1
Miller bashing in full on mode again. Lad's doing a job for us. Deserves a bit more credit than he's getting IMO. He is a striker who doesn't score goals. He can jump about all he likes but the fact is he isn't putting the ball where we want it. In the net! So let me get this right. He's the only player allowed to score a goal, yeah?
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 26, 2015 13:30:31 GMT 1
An ok job is the best that can be said of him if we're going to continue with this formation. Hopefully we can kick on with a better version of him that offers goal threat as well as being a nuisance and with Patterson behind him rather than Bunn as I'd hope Patterson is a better finisher and passer, Bunn would then give us another option on the left
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Post by Big Ern on Sept 26, 2015 14:12:21 GMT 1
He is a striker who doesn't score goals. He can jump about all he likes but the fact is he isn't putting the ball where we want it. In the net! So let me get this right. He's the only player allowed to score a goal, yeah? Qué? He hasn't scored a goal all season! Law of averages dictates a striker who has played almost every game should have scored by now. I applaud your loyalty to the player but there are players out there who we can afford who will do everything that Miller does and also score goals.
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Sept 26, 2015 14:42:08 GMT 1
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 26, 2015 14:42:08 GMT 1
So let me get this right. He's the only player allowed to score a goal, yeah? Qué? He hasn't scored a goal all season! Law of averages dictates a striker who has played almost every game should have scored by now. I applaud your loyalty to the player but there are players out there who we can afford who will do everything that Miller does and also score goals. name em.. cost them against our wage structure and policy. convince me that they would want to come here and then I may take your point..
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Post by wtd on Sept 26, 2015 16:12:20 GMT 1
So let me get this right. He's the only player allowed to score a goal, yeah? Qué? He hasn't scored a goal all season! Law of averages dictates a striker who has played almost every game should have scored by now. I applaud your loyalty to the player but there are players out there who we can afford who will do everything that Miller does and also score goals. My point was... are we goalless presently with him in the team? No. So who cares as long as he's playing his part. Would love someone who does what he does AND scores goals but, as galph says, name him and tell how he might fit into our pay structure.
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Sept 26, 2015 17:41:33 GMT 1
Post by Big Ern on Sept 26, 2015 17:41:33 GMT 1
Grant Holt did exactly that last season therefore proving they are out there. I would have a look at Simon Cox at Reading. Hasn't been playing lately and has goals in him.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 26, 2015 17:42:27 GMT 1
What about Jamie Vardy ?
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Sept 26, 2015 17:47:05 GMT 1
Post by Big Ern on Sept 26, 2015 17:47:05 GMT 1
Qué? He hasn't scored a goal all season! Law of averages dictates a striker who has played almost every game should have scored by now. I applaud your loyalty to the player but there are players out there who we can afford who will do everything that Miller does and also score goals. My point was... are we goalless presently with him in the team? No. So who cares as long as he's playing his part. Would love someone who does what he does AND scores goals but, as galph says, name him and tell how he might fit into our pay structure. See my previous post regarding my suggestion on a striker. The bit in bold though, do we NEED to have that in the team? If so then it wouldn't hurt to take a look at James Hanson.
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Sept 27, 2015 22:08:47 GMT 1
Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 27, 2015 22:08:47 GMT 1
I feel the club are getting far more out of Miller than what the likes of Yeovil, Forest and Blackpool did. He has played a " vital role " in earning the club 7 points from 9 in the last 3 matches under the new system , and his presence alone seems to be bringing the best out of the other members of the squad "especially" Bunn . It would be a massive advantage for the club if they could up Millers fitness levels to a higher standard, as it would be then that the club would get the best out of the player.
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Sept 27, 2015 23:03:31 GMT 1
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 27, 2015 23:03:31 GMT 1
Qué? He hasn't scored a goal all season! Law of averages dictates a striker who has played almost every game should have scored by now. I applaud your loyalty to the player but there are players out there who we can afford who will do everything that Miller does and also score goals. name em.. cost them against our wage structure and policy. convince me that they would want to come here and then I may take your point.. Tom Bradshaw
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Sept 28, 2015 10:38:30 GMT 1
Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 28, 2015 10:38:30 GMT 1
get together the asking price, then out bid any competition, then convince tom and his agent to come here on less money than he will be offered elsewhere. If he was or is available I firmly believe we will have looked into it and come away, as maybe others have at the moment.
failing that kidnap him and force him to play here.
town will be looking and enquiring. We got huwys to come here and carayol, we honestly cant get everyone or anyone we might want.
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Sept 28, 2015 11:17:06 GMT 1
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 28, 2015 11:17:06 GMT 1
You asked the question I gave you a realistic answer
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Sept 28, 2015 12:23:05 GMT 1
Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 28, 2015 12:23:05 GMT 1
You asked the question I gave you a realistic answer please explain the 'realistic part'.. is it because he plays for a lower league club?? I cant think of anything else that might lead us to believe he; a. is for sale/loan now b. is anything like within our price range or if his wages would be ok for us to have him on the bench to start with.. c. would have any compunction to come here either with or without the lure of clubs competing for him? d. finally would his agent allow the move when its clear there is interest and the better move might be at a later date or to another championship club now? btw, I am all for speculation and i hope that Town are reported as being 'in' for players as it raises the profile of the club. It also raises false expectations in the supporters which we should all be able to take with a pinch of salt by now..
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Sept 28, 2015 12:51:17 GMT 1
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Post by jqhtfc on Sept 28, 2015 12:51:17 GMT 1
Realistic as its exactly the sort of player town would look at young, Lower level and scores goals as for is he for sale at the correct price of course he would be he plays for Walsall that's not being disrespectful to them in anyway but we are a bigger pull to any player in that league due to our current championship status. In our price range you would like to think so wouldn't you given hoyles latest warchest comment and the money pulled in over the last window as for would he come that's up to the club to convince him that a move to a club like ourselves would be a good career move which over the past few years we've been rather good at.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Oct 3, 2015 14:26:47 GMT 1
You cannot hope to compete successfully over a season in the Championship with a League 2 lump leading the line. We've had a couple of wins DESPITE him but eventually the ball just coming back again and again will wear down the confidence of the rest of the team and we'll be in freefall.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Oct 3, 2015 14:30:26 GMT 1
Wells had our only meaningful strike at goal. I'm not including Huws or Miller as they were soft. Like him or not he's the closest we have to a goalscorer and we need to play him.
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