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Post by dalton knee-jerk on Feb 13, 2016 12:35:42 GMT 1
I would guess not. The view might be better but it's severely lacking in atmosphere. A few years back a group of us sat up there and tried to start some songs. All I will say is if looks could kill we would have been massacred. Not for me. But in terms of view and if you're purely wanting to watch the game, it is easily the best part of the ground. Side on, good height, clear views of scoreboard (obstructed at back of Brittania). I remember watching Malvin Kamara tear Grimsby apart in the cup sat up there, those were the days Guess it's a matter of personal choice. If I have my 'serious analyst' head on, I like the Upper Tier behind the goal. Feel you can see more of how play develops. As for Malvin Kamara, you must have got lucky
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Post by bogart on Feb 13, 2016 13:22:59 GMT 1
Used to have a Britania Rescue ticket until I moved to France permanently when I bought a Take10 ticket. If the £179 ticket does come to fruition I will buy one for sure. One question though is I find it odd the same price is being touted for all parts of the ground. In my mind the obvious best place to see the game is the Revell Ward upper where I use my Take 10s. Will not one side of the ground be full whereas the Britannia side will empty out somewhat. I would guess not. The view might be better but it's severely lacking in atmosphere. A few years back a group of us sat up there and tried to start some songs. All I will say is if looks could kill we would have been massacred. Not for me. Ah but hopefully would be a lot different if full. As an aside last weekend I was at the Hertha Berlin v Borussia Dortmund game and really german fans put your average english fan to shame in terms of noise made.
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Post by detox on Feb 13, 2016 14:48:34 GMT 1
Anyone who thinks we've made progress by simply standing still is just silly. We've trodden water for 3 years, kept ourselves in the championship...flirted with relegation but never threatened the top half of the table...this has been 'achieved' with a good deal of dour (boring) football and such has been Dean's personal dissatisfaction with it he's sacked Grayson,Robins and Powell in successive years. I don't think Dean believes we have made progress at all...especially when he's seen the gates drop by 3,000 as fans have simply been bored stupid by it all and walked away. that is way too harsh detox. lets just say we get lucky and go up next season but the year after we have to dig in to stop up. will folks stop turning up?! surely its called establishing yourself at a higher level and improving? the club have made some poor recruitment and pricing decisions but let no one under estimate how tough it is now at this level. this club was shite for years under davy.....no investment no ambition and an over reliance on ultimately over rated youth. we have come alot further than many realise and if the folk of kirklees get off their arses and buy cut price tickets we might just surprise a few! Hmm, maybe so Shawsie...I was mainly countering the opinion that we had made progress year on year... which in many areas we have and that's good, but as far as being competetive on the pitch and providing fans with entertainment , no.. not often enough..fans don't disappear for no reason, managers aren't sacked for no reason but ultimately if you asked the man in charge, Dean,I think he would be disappointed with our on field progress since promotion. he has even said during successive summers that he wants more achievement. I'm not blaming anyone as such, it's a tough league to be in... I don't really see it as establishing ourselves either, Barnsley spent 8 years trying to get above 17th place in this league before they were relegated..were they established ? However I think the tide may be turning now with Wagner in, Clibbens out and at least some attractive football on the pitch where the lads seem to be working hard, and prices for admission reduced and simplified... and I'm looking forward to Dean splashing the cash in the summer.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 15:53:46 GMT 1
Used to have a Britania Rescue ticket until I moved to France permanently when I bought a Take10 ticket. If the £179 ticket does come to fruition I will buy one for sure. One question though is I find it odd the same price is being touted for all parts of the ground. In my mind the obvious best place to see the game is the Revell Ward upper where I use my Take 10s. Will not one side of the ground be full whereas the Britannia side will empty out somewhat. Let us wait till the season ticket prices are made official before we comment im sur it will be a good deal provided we stay up
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Post by bogart on Feb 13, 2016 19:56:15 GMT 1
Used to have a Britania Rescue ticket until I moved to France permanently when I bought a Take10 ticket. If the £179 ticket does come to fruition I will buy one for sure. One question though is I find it odd the same price is being touted for all parts of the ground. In my mind the obvious best place to see the game is the Revell Ward upper where I use my Take 10s. Will not one side of the ground be full whereas the Britannia side will empty out somewhat. Let us wait till the season ticket prices are made official before we comment im sur it will be a good deal provided we stay up "Provided we stay up" and your name is positive!
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Post by wazzahtfc on Feb 13, 2016 23:44:46 GMT 1
If the prices are anywhere near the 179 figure it will be a travesty if we don't shift 15000+ with the quality of the football Wagner is delivering.If the stay aways continue to stay away with this we will never get them back. Costing me a fortune going to every away game at the moment , but even the ones we've lost its been worth it !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 11:04:36 GMT 1
What is this bullshit about flirting with relegation each season. We were safe by FEBRUARY last season. I'll say it again FEBRUARY.
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Post by terrierng on Feb 14, 2016 11:28:25 GMT 1
Used to have a Britania Rescue ticket until I moved to France permanently when I bought a Take10 ticket. If the £179 ticket does come to fruition I will buy one for sure. One question though is I find it odd the same price is being touted for all parts of the ground. In my mind the obvious best place to see the game is the Revell Ward upper where I use my Take 10s. Will not one side of the ground be full whereas the Britannia side will empty out somewhat. That will never happen will it? I mean haven't we absolutely thousands of fans who would leave forever if they cant have the same seat? The ones who will leave if we ever give away fans part of the kilner? Surely these fans wont move just because its a better view at the same price,surely these fans wont move as they will look rather silly the way they have acted over moving for maybe half a dozen games, didnt some say they will never renew? Im sure those fans will never think of moving.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 14, 2016 13:31:13 GMT 1
Used to have a Britania Rescue ticket until I moved to France permanently when I bought a Take10 ticket. If the £179 ticket does come to fruition I will buy one for sure. One question though is I find it odd the same price is being touted for all parts of the ground. In my mind the obvious best place to see the game is the Revell Ward upper where I use my Take 10s. Will not one side of the ground be full whereas the Britannia side will empty out somewhat. That will never happen will it? I mean haven't we absolutely thousands of fans who would leave forever if they cant have the same seat? The ones who will leave if we ever give away fans part of the kilner? Surely these fans wont move just because its a better view at the same price,surely these fans wont move as they will look rather silly the way they have acted over moving for maybe half a dozen games, didnt some say they will never renew? Im sure those fans will never think of moving. Some people are so bloody stubborn. Each to their own though. I don't think it's primarily a financially motivated decision, because as many suggest, I doubt the additional numbers will cover what Town lose from those that would've bought one regardless. Fair play. If they do that payment scheme with it, hardly any can legitimately use cost as a reason not to attend.
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Post by townatheart on Feb 14, 2016 13:56:48 GMT 1
Let us wait till the season ticket prices are made official before we comment im sur it will be a good deal provided we stay up "Provided we stay up" and your name is positive! he may wish to amend to "Cautiously Optimistic"
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Post by stevvy on Feb 15, 2016 12:51:43 GMT 1
Taken from one of a number of interview articles with Hoyle in the Examiner: We will use £1m of that extra money to re-engage with the fans through unbelievable savings on season-cards – initially for the first 10,000 bought, and we expect a big take-up.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 15, 2016 12:59:41 GMT 1
That will never happen will it? I mean haven't we absolutely thousands of fans who would leave forever if they cant have the same seat? The ones who will leave if we ever give away fans part of the kilner? Surely these fans wont move just because its a better view at the same price,surely these fans wont move as they will look rather silly the way they have acted over moving for maybe half a dozen games, didnt some say they will never renew? Im sure those fans will never think of moving. Some people are so bloody stubborn. Each to their own though. I don't think it's primarily a financially motivated decision, because as many suggest, I doubt the additional numbers will cover what Town lose from those that would've bought one regardless. Fair play. If they do that payment scheme with it, hardly any can legitimately use cost as a reason not to attend. travel? and time? cost has to be measured against value as well.. cheap and poor value isnt that enticing..if we get the product right more often then that would change...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 13:03:46 GMT 1
Taken from one of a number of interview articles with Hoyle in the Examiner: We will use £1m of that extra money to re-engage with the fans through unbelievable savings on season-cards – initially for the first 10,000 bought, and we expect a big take-up. So after the current season ticket holders renew, that leaves 2000 more to sell at £179. Those that miss out arent going to pay normal prices for one I can't see how the 10,000 cap can work. I assume he's just saying it to generate that initial rush but in actual fact it will be unlimited upto a certain date
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 13:07:32 GMT 1
Here's the piece in the Examiner - www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/dean-hoyle-major-new-plans-10892905Not sure how they got hold of the accounts before they've been filed at Companies House. Interesting that the club actually managed to lose more money last season than the season before, despite the clear out. Also pretty much confirms the fact that the payments for Coady, Smithies and Butterfield were not all upfront - the back of a fag packet accountancy from some DATM posters shown to be, as expected, way out of touch with reality. Parkie's deceived nonsense also guff - we had four players we wanted to get in, but couldn't get over the line.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 13:09:50 GMT 1
Taken from one of a number of interview articles with Hoyle in the Examiner: We will use £1m of that extra money to re-engage with the fans through unbelievable savings on season-cards – initially for the first 10,000 bought, and we expect a big take-up. So after the current season ticket holders renew, that leaves 2000 more to sell at £179. Those that miss out arent going to pay normal prices for one I can't see how the 10,000 cap can work. I assume he's just saying it to generate that initial rush but in actual fact it will be unlimited upto a certain date I reckon that's just a marketing ploy, get people to buy them asap, rather than dither around and then not bother. It says "initially for the first 10,000 bought" - when that's hit, we can get more headlines by extending it for the next, say, 5,000.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 13:10:34 GMT 1
is it official yet?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 13:12:15 GMT 1
Here's the piece in the Examiner - www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/dean-hoyle-major-new-plans-10892905Not sure how they got hold of the accounts before they've been filed at Companies House. Interesting that the club actually managed to lose more money last season than the season before, despite the clear out. Also pretty much confirms the fact that the payments for Coady, Smithies and Butterfield were not all upfront - the back of a fag packet accountancy from some DATM posters shown to be, as expected, way out of touch with reality. Parkie's deceived nonsense also guff - we had four players we wanted to get in, but couldn't get over the line. Sorry I don't believe the official company accounts statement or anything Hoyle says, I believe 100% in what Marcus says in that we're pissing profits out of our arse.
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Post by stevvy on Feb 15, 2016 13:15:45 GMT 1
I agree that the supposed 10000 cap is to get the rush in so people get them early and so the club has the money early, rather than in dribs and drabs with no certainty over how much money will be available to spend, then either extend it or just put the price up a bit (maybe to £200-250).
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Post by H7 on Feb 15, 2016 13:19:30 GMT 1
I agree that the supposed 10000 cap is to get the rush in so people get them early and so the club has the money early, rather than in dribs and drabs with no certainty over how much money will be available to spend, then either extend it or just put the price up a bit (maybe to £200-250). Agreed. I'll be amazed if the offer isn't extended passed the initial 10k.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 13:23:17 GMT 1
I agree that the supposed 10000 cap is to get the rush in so people get them early and so the club has the money early, rather than in dribs and drabs with no certainty over how much money will be available to spend, then either extend it or just put the price up a bit (maybe to £200-250). Even upping it to £250 will piss some folk off who will then refuse to get one For it to work to best effect (in terms of numbers sold atleast), it will have to stay at the same price past the 10,000 mark
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Post by betsvigi9 on Feb 15, 2016 13:29:08 GMT 1
So after the current season ticket holders renew, that leaves 2000 more to sell at £179. Those that miss out arent going to pay normal prices for one I can't see how the 10,000 cap can work. I assume he's just saying it to generate that initial rush but in actual fact it will be unlimited upto a certain date I reckon that's just a marketing ploy, get people to buy them asap, rather than dither around and then not bother. It says "initially for the first 10,000 bought" - when that's hit, we can get more headlines by extending it for the next, say, 5,000. I will be buying a ST because I have done for the last can't remember how many years whatever the price is, but will be snapping their hands off if it is £179. They do need to make it more affordable, because a lot of people simply cannot pay the current prices. I think this seasons walk up prices have put a lot of people off, but with ST prices that cheap, if confirmed, then I would guess that the reasoning is most people who want to come will be able to afford one. I think you are right, the first 10,000 is a bit of a marketing gimmick to persuade people to buy early. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 13:36:29 GMT 1
they just need to fill the ground, that will take care of the atmosphere, revenue will increase through more shirt sales, revenue will increase through more dodgy pie or bovril sales, revenue will increase through more golden gamble sales.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Feb 15, 2016 14:11:19 GMT 1
Some people are so bloody stubborn. Each to their own though. I don't think it's primarily a financially motivated decision, because as many suggest, I doubt the additional numbers will cover what Town lose from those that would've bought one regardless. Fair play. If they do that payment scheme with it, hardly any can legitimately use cost as a reason not to attend. travel? and time? cost has to be measured against value as well.. cheap and poor value isnt that enticing..if we get the product right more often then that would change... I didn't say that though did I; I said pure cost isn't a legitimate reason anymore for most. If people choose not to go for other reasons, whether that be value, travel, other activities, they're a lazy git that prefers to just sit on the sofa, that's their prerogative.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Feb 15, 2016 14:16:39 GMT 1
pure cost always involves value for money??? if its rubbish you just dont buy it, whatever it costs? football is not a neccessity and you wont buy it just because its cheaper??? you wont travel any distance or give your time if its not worth it? travelling and giving time to watch poor football and poor results for your team is a thing of the past here.. we are not geordies..
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Post by benhomly on Feb 15, 2016 14:30:36 GMT 1
pure cost always involves value for money??? if its rubbish you just dont buy it, whatever it costs? football is not a neccessity and you wont buy it just because its cheaper??? you wont travel any distance or give your time if its not worth it? travelling and giving time to watch poor football and poor results for your team is a thing of the past here.. we are not geordies..
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Post by Melc on Feb 15, 2016 17:56:46 GMT 1
I just hope the stay away fans now get behind the club and take up this fantastic offer of being able to watch championship football for less than £8 per game. Add to that the prospect of witnessing some of the best football for many a year, and Wagner getting the chance in the summer to build a team that could finally have a decent go at this level then why not give it a go?
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Post by kingofgolcar on Feb 15, 2016 19:12:49 GMT 1
I think current season ticket holders just have first dibs on the 10,000 (I don't have season ticket this year) that would be fair
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Post by kingofgolcar on Feb 15, 2016 19:13:48 GMT 1
I think current season ticket holders just have first dibs on the 10,000 (I don't have season ticket this year) that would be fair Maybe a week before general sale
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Post by htfcfcfc on Feb 15, 2016 19:14:47 GMT 1
Sorry if I've missed it but when are they on sale?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 19:19:24 GMT 1
you aint missed owt. nowt announced yet. i'm gonna buy two though.
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