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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 12:37:38 GMT 1
The highlights on TownPlayer clearly show that Hudson first wins the ball cleanly and then he takes the man with his momentum. In no way does it look dirty or threatening a knee break, not even a foul, just a strong, good challenge. It's also blatant handball. Exactly this! Does it also Highlight that Hudson is slower than a snail in his attempts to get to the ball? My memory isnt the best but im sure he had a massive head start on the Forestieri |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 4, 2016 13:01:55 GMT 1
Does it also Highlight that Hudson is slower than a snail in his attempts to get to the ball? My memory isnt the best but im sure he had a massive head start on the Forestieri And as Ripponden states got to the ball cleanly before Forestieri, which was the object of the exercise, sadly the poor official failed to see the incident correctly. But hey let's never miss a chance to have a 'pop' at Hudson though. |
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Post by ACW on Apr 4, 2016 13:05:55 GMT 1
Does it also Highlight that Hudson is slower than a snail in his attempts to get to the ball? My memory isnt the best but im sure he had a massive head start on the Forestieri And as Ripponden states got to the ball cleanly before Forestieri, which was the object of the exercise, sadly the poor official failed to see the incident correctly. But hey let's never miss a chance to have a 'pop' at Hudson though. I haven't seen the incident since but I thought Hudson took the ball cleanly before getting their man. I'm not Hudson's biggest fan, but I thought he played pretty well on Sat. He made some excellent tackles, particularly in the first half and was part of a generally solid defence throughout the match. He's not a long term prospect, but credit where credit is due. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 4, 2016 13:15:23 GMT 1
And as Ripponden states got to the ball cleanly before Forestieri, which was the object of the exercise, sadly the poor official failed to see the incident correctly. But hey let's never miss a chance to have a 'pop' at Hudson though. I haven't seen the incident since but I thought Hudson took the ball cleanly before getting their man. I'm not Hudson's biggest fan, but I thought he played pretty well on Sat. He made some excellent tackles, particularly in the first half and was part of a generally solid defence throughout the match. He's not a long term prospect, but credit where credit is due. you know what their man is going to be like and you still kick him up in the air on half way to get your regulation booking and then you get there late and take him out again, ball or not, later on..  neither was a challenge that had to be made or needed making.. credit where its due? defending is sometimes just using some common sense.. having to sub him at the very least lessened our chances of being able to change what we were doing.. the ball seems very bouncy and very, very heavy in equal amounts when hudson gets on it??? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 13:19:28 GMT 1
Does it also Highlight that Hudson is slower than a snail in his attempts to get to the ball? My memory isnt the best but im sure he had a massive head start on the Forestieri And as Ripponden states got to the ball cleanly before Forestieri, which was the object of the exercise, sadly the poor official failed to see the incident correctly. But hey let's never miss a chance to have a 'pop' at Hudson though. But the incident doesnt even occur if he gets there quicker. It looked like he was jogging but that may have been a Hudson sprint |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 4, 2016 13:26:31 GMT 1
And as Ripponden states got to the ball cleanly before Forestieri, which was the object of the exercise, sadly the poor official failed to see the incident correctly. But hey let's never miss a chance to have a 'pop' at Hudson though. But the incident doesnt even occur if he gets there quicker. It looked like he was jogging but that may have been a Hudson sprint Alright so every player should sprint at all times to avoid a potential 'incident' where you get to the ball first and cleanly because an official may just see it incorrectly and give a foul against you! C'mon Offtopic, Hudson did what he had to, to win the ball. The ref read it incorrectly but that's Hudson's fault! Jeez man just an excuse for another comment about Hudson's lack of pace! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 13:29:41 GMT 1
But the incident doesnt even occur if he gets there quicker. It looked like he was jogging but that may have been a Hudson sprint Alright so every player should sprint at all times to avoid a potential 'incident' where you get to the ball first and cleanly because an official may just see it incorrectly and give a foul against you! C'mon Offtopic, Hudson did what he had to, to win the ball. The ref read it incorrectly but that's Hudson's fault! Jeez man just an excuse for another comment about Hudson's lack of pace! Its my opinion that he's adding unecessary risk to the situation by jogging to the ball and giving an opposition player hope that he might get to the ball first. Get there quick and you give yourself more time and options to deal with the situation. Or jog to it and nearly get sent off |
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Post by upthetown on Apr 4, 2016 13:39:44 GMT 1
Does it also Highlight that Hudson is slower than a snail in his attempts to get to the ball? My memory isnt the best but im sure he had a massive head start on the Forestieri We don't need HD cameras to prove this! |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 4, 2016 13:49:07 GMT 1
Alright so every player should sprint at all times to avoid a potential 'incident' where you get to the ball first and cleanly because an official may just see it incorrectly and give a foul against you! C'mon Offtopic, Hudson did what he had to, to win the ball. The ref read it incorrectly but that's Hudson's fault! Jeez man just an excuse for another comment about Hudson's lack of pace! Its my opinion that he's adding unecessary risk to the situation by jogging to the ball and giving an opposition player hope that he might get to the ball first. Get there quick and you give yourself more time and options to deal with the situation. Or jog to it and nearly get INCORRECTLY sent off fixed it for you  It's my opinion that the only option that Hudson had in that situation was to put it into touch, which he did and which he would have if he had got there in the same time as Usain Bolt would have. Can anyone be expected to foresee an incorrect decision being made by the referee? It is also my opinion that those that dislike Hudson will look for any reason to have said 'pop' at him. Thankfully for Hudson he wasn't in Lynch's position for their goal because if he had been then I am of the opinion that some would have blamed him and his lack of pace for their goal. |
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Post by upthetown on Apr 4, 2016 13:55:47 GMT 1
Its my opinion that he's adding unecessary risk to the situation by jogging to the ball and giving an opposition player hope that he might get to the ball first. Get there quick and you give yourself more time and options to deal with the situation. Or jog to it and nearly get INCORRECTLY sent off fixed it for you It's my opinion that the only option that Hudson had in that situation was to put it into touch, which he did and which he would have if he had got there in the same time as Usain Bolt would have. Can anyone be expected to foresee an incorrect decision being made by the referee? It is also my opinion that those that dislike Hudson will look for any reason to have said 'pop' at him. Thankfully for Hudson he wasn't in Lynch's position for their goal because if he had been then I am of the opinion that some would have blamed him and his lack of pace for their goal. If Hudson was quicker he would have been in Lynch's position. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 14:03:43 GMT 1
Its my opinion that he's adding unecessary risk to the situation by jogging to the ball and giving an opposition player hope that he might get to the ball first. Get there quick and you give yourself more time and options to deal with the situation. Or jog to it and nearly get INCORRECTLY sent off fixed it for you It's my opinion that the only option that Hudson had in that situation was to put it into touch, which he did and which he would have if he had got there in the same time as Usain Bolt would have. Can anyone be expected to foresee an incorrect decision being made by the referee? It is also my opinion that those that dislike Hudson will look for any reason to have said 'pop' at him. Thankfully for Hudson he wasn't in Lynch's position for their goal because if he had been then I am of the opinion that some would have blamed him and his lack of pace for their goal. Hudson or Lynch, the blame lies with Smith for heading it up the other end when he could have brought it down and Steer for stepping sideways instead of forwards (easy to say but Joao was never shooting from there and Steer could easily have stepped and dived forward once he played the cross) |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 4, 2016 14:12:45 GMT 1
fixed it for you It's my opinion that the only option that Hudson had in that situation was to put it into touch, which he did and which he would have if he had got there in the same time as Usain Bolt would have. Can anyone be expected to foresee an incorrect decision being made by the referee? It is also my opinion that those that dislike Hudson will look for any reason to have said 'pop' at him. Thankfully for Hudson he wasn't in Lynch's position for their goal because if he had been then I am of the opinion that some would have blamed him and his lack of pace for their goal. Hudson or Lynch, the blame lies with Smith for heading it up the other end when he could have brought it down and Steer for stepping sideways instead of forwards (easy to say but Joao was never shooting from there and Steer could easily have stepped and dived forward once he played the cross) That's exactly my point! It wasn't Lynch's fault but put Hudson there and likely some would have pointed the finger of blame at him  |
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 4, 2016 14:23:18 GMT 1
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Post by morrisraspass on Apr 4, 2016 14:34:43 GMT 1
Good pic - conclusive.
I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else whether it was handball or not in the build-up for Wednesday's goal? The highlights didn't linger on it but you can hear the crowd calling it. Either way, Steer should've been all over the ball Joao put in. Appreciate it was a stick or twist moment for him, but he should've twisted, come out for it and smothered it.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 4, 2016 14:36:59 GMT 1
/photo/1 Make your own minds up. It can't be, that Wendies said it hit him on the shoulder blade  Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 14:43:40 GMT 1
Good pic - conclusive. I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else whether it was handball or not in the build-up for Wednesday's goal? The highlights didn't linger on it but you can hear the crowd calling it. Either way, Steer should've been all over the ball Joao put in. Appreciate it was a stick or twist moment for him, but he should've twisted, come out for it and smothered it. You cant help but think that in the Prem with a Cech, Courtois, Hart etc in net that it would have looked a rubbish ball as they easily collect it. He's only young and still learning, got a good future ahead of him |
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 4, 2016 14:55:43 GMT 1
/photo/1 Make your own minds up. It can't be, that Wendies said it hit him on the shoulder blade Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards Some Wednesday fans say Forestieri ain't a cheat.... |
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Post by buckers on Apr 4, 2016 14:55:58 GMT 1
/photo/1 Make your own minds up. Where's that buzz/Sheffield Wednesday fan gone? |
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 4, 2016 14:58:46 GMT 1
/photo/1 Make your own minds up. Where's that buzz/Sheffield Wednesday fan gone? Probably got lost up his own arse. |
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Apr 4, 2016 15:55:35 GMT 1
/photo/1 Make your own minds up. REMATCH!! |
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Post by detox on Apr 4, 2016 17:37:39 GMT 1
Lynch should have stepped in front of that argie twat and covered the ball for steer to collect, I don't think lynch knew he was there and it seemed a bit of hesitation between lynch and steer which the argie twat capitalised on. Shambolic bit of defending i'm afraid..one of lynch or steer should have had that ball...
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Apr 4, 2016 18:58:40 GMT 1
/photo/1 Make your own minds up. On the day i thought it was a penalty and we would have got the point that i thought we deserved. I just don't know how the officials seem to miss these decisions and it's not a case of once every blue moon, it's every other week. |
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 4, 2016 19:10:12 GMT 1
/photo/1 Make your own minds up. On the day i thought it was a penalty and we would have got the point that i thought we deserved. I just don't know how the officials seem to miss these decisions and it's not a case of once every blue moon, it's every other week. Saturday evening I had a meeting with myself to discuss the refereeing this season and I came to the conclusion that the officials are both biased and incompetent. |
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Post by rocky on Apr 4, 2016 19:13:36 GMT 1
Lynch should have stepped in front of that argie twat and covered the ball for steer to collect, I don't think lynch knew he was there and it seemed a bit of hesitation between lynch and steer which the argie twat capitalised on. Shambolic bit of defending i'm afraid..one of lynch or steer should have had that ball... Yeah, you're right. Only just watched the video & it's a bloody awful goal to concede. Lynch could have hooked it out, Steer could have blocked the cross etc. Town really do seem to have this knack of conceding preventable goals which end up costing points. Recent games v Preston, Ipswich & Wednesday are all perfect examples. |
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Post by impact on Apr 4, 2016 19:38:06 GMT 1
Good pic - conclusive. I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else whether it was handball or not in the build-up for Wednesday's goal? The highlights didn't linger on it but you can hear the crowd calling it. Either way, Steer should've been all over the ball Joao put in. Appreciate it was a stick or twist moment for him, but he should've twisted, come out for it and smothered it. Completely agree. Ball wasn't travelling quickly and wasn't far away from him. Definitely the keeper's ball. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2016 19:48:53 GMT 1
Alright so every player should sprint at all times to avoid a potential 'incident' where you get to the ball first and cleanly because an official may just see it incorrectly and give a foul against you! C'mon Offtopic, Hudson did what he had to, to win the ball. The ref read it incorrectly but that's Hudson's fault! Jeez man just an excuse for another comment about Hudson's lack of pace! Its my opinion that he's adding unecessary risk to the situation by jogging to the ball and giving an opposition player hope that he might get to the ball first. Get there quick and you give yourself more time and options to deal with the situation. Or jog to it and nearly get sent off On the other hand though sometimes it is better to get there later so long as you still win the ball, getting there that bit earlier can put you under instant pressure from the opposing player. |
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Post by ACW on Apr 4, 2016 19:56:56 GMT 1
I haven't seen the incident since but I thought Hudson took the ball cleanly before getting their man. I'm not Hudson's biggest fan, but I thought he played pretty well on Sat. He made some excellent tackles, particularly in the first half and was part of a generally solid defence throughout the match. He's not a long term prospect, but credit where credit is due. you know what their man is going to be like and you still kick him up in the air on half way to get your regulation booking and then you get there late and take him out again, ball or not, later on.. neither was a challenge that had to be made or needed making.. credit where its due? defending is sometimes just using some common sense.. having to sub him at the very least lessened our chances of being able to change what we were doing.. the ball seems very bouncy and very, very heavy in equal amounts when hudson gets on it??? I was crediting him for a decent performance generally and for the great ball winning tackles he made, particularly in the first half. I'm not saying his performance was perfect, but he did alot of good things. I'm prepared to see the good as well as the bad. You seem to discount the good things he did and just focus on the poorer aspects of his performance. A bit more balance needed perhaps? |
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Post by ACW on Apr 4, 2016 19:58:56 GMT 1
I haven't seen the incident since but I thought Hudson took the ball cleanly before getting their man. I'm not Hudson's biggest fan, but I thought he played pretty well on Sat. He made some excellent tackles, particularly in the first half and was part of a generally solid defence throughout the match. He's not a long term prospect, but credit where credit is due. you know what their man is going to be like and you still kick him up in the air on half way to get your regulation booking and then you get there late and take him out again, ball or not, later on.. neither was a challenge that had to be made or needed making.. credit where its due? defending is sometimes just using some common sense.. having to sub him at the very least lessened our chances of being able to change what we were doing.. the ball seems very bouncy and very, very heavy in equal amounts when hudson gets on it??? I was crediting him for a decent performance generally and for the great ball winning tackles he made, particularly in the first half. I'm not saying his performance was perfect, but he did alot of good things. I'm prepared to see the good as well as the bad. You seem to discount the good things he did and just focus on the poorer aspects of his performance. A bit more balance needed perhaps? |
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Post by impact on Apr 4, 2016 20:04:10 GMT 1
you know what their man is going to be like and you still kick him up in the air on half way to get your regulation booking and then you get there late and take him out again, ball or not, later on.. neither was a challenge that had to be made or needed making.. credit where its due? defending is sometimes just using some common sense.. having to sub him at the very least lessened our chances of being able to change what we were doing.. the ball seems very bouncy and very, very heavy in equal amounts when hudson gets on it??? I was crediting him for a decent performance generally and for the great ball winning tackles he made, particularly in the first half. I'm not saying his performance was perfect, but he did alot of good things. I'm prepared to see the good as well as the bad. You seem to discount the good things he did and just focus on the poorer aspects of his performance. A bit more balance needed perhaps? That isn't just Hudson, that's the team in general. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 4, 2016 21:17:31 GMT 1
you know what their man is going to be like and you still kick him up in the air on half way to get your regulation booking and then you get there late and take him out again, ball or not, later on.. neither was a challenge that had to be made or needed making.. credit where its due? defending is sometimes just using some common sense.. having to sub him at the very least lessened our chances of being able to change what we were doing.. the ball seems very bouncy and very, very heavy in equal amounts when hudson gets on it??? I was crediting him for a decent performance generally and for the great ball winning tackles he made, particularly in the first half. I'm not saying his performance was perfect, but he did alot of good things. I'm prepared to see the good as well as the bad. You seem to discount the good things he did and just focus on the poorer aspects of his performance. A bit more balance needed perhaps? sorry, he is another clarke.. clarkey did fool more people than hudson but they both defend where they feel comfortable and they both catch us out more than the opposition do... no place for deep defenders who want the big centre forward to mark them.. sorry.. the poorer aspects of his performance are part of the 'fine lines' between 1 point and no points in this division.. If we are spending a good chunk of the budget here we are wasting it.. Again, its nothing personal, he could always pay to watch me run my business and make critique if he believed he could find fault.. They play football for my club, they are not my mates.. |
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