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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 15, 2016 18:38:36 GMT 1
Where did this thing about Huddersfield being the biggest town in England come from anyway? Has it ever been the biggest? Area wise it might be! |
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Apr 15, 2016 18:39:32 GMT 1
I thought Huddersfield was the biggest town in England..... Or did I dream that? It doesn't help when the Champions of Europe are 15 miles down the road, not to mention the chickens not being too far away & Halifax will attract a few to their games. Was really surprised to see how few fans hull brought last week, thought they would have sold out considering their league position. Utt. 11th biggest Town for population. Swindon, Reading and even Northampton have bigger populations. They only have a bigger population since all the boundaries were changed, but in actual fact, the population of the said above towns is smaller than that of Huddersfield. Huddersfield was swallowed up within Kirklees but if they had decided to call it Huddersfield instead we would be the 9th biggest place in England. The population of Huddersfield is just over 160,000 but, the wider Huddersfield area is over 250,00 and that is not including the rest of Kirklees. |
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Post by jonnyboy on Apr 15, 2016 18:45:14 GMT 1
Burnley according to stats average about 14k in championship boosted to about 20 in premier league. They seem to do alright. Solid championship and occasional top flight for donkeys years off what feels a very small town. I work there and feels like it should have a Mansfield sized club.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 18:45:27 GMT 1
It hasn't taken long for the doom merchants to try and distinguish the feel good factor that's in and around the club at the moment! Have I missed the announcement that we haven't sold 15k yet? Exactly. I'm pretty sure we will have surpassed that total by now. They didn't announce that they'd sold 10,000 until they had sold 11,000. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 15, 2016 18:57:14 GMT 1
11th biggest Town for population. Swindon, Reading and even Northampton have bigger populations. They only have a bigger population since all the boundaries were changed, but in actual fact, the population of the said above towns is smaller than that of Huddersfield. Huddersfield was swallowed up within Kirklees but if they had decided to call it Huddersfield instead we would be the 9th biggest place in England. The population of Huddersfield is just over 160,000 but, the wider Huddersfield area is over 250,00 and that is not including the rest of Kirklees. If youre going to include lots of other towns in the population of a town, then you;d have to do that to all the other ones aswell. so Huddersfield wouldn't be anything like the 9th biggest place in england. |
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Post by Sio on Apr 15, 2016 19:01:22 GMT 1
Always likely to plateau somewhere around the 15k mark, which I suspect it currently is around! Remember we only sold 16k at £100 - £80 less - in the centenary year, and that was after the positivity of a new owner had kicked in. Still plenty of time to shift a few more before next season.
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Post by ben1987 on Apr 15, 2016 19:05:20 GMT 1
Always likely to plateau somewhere around the 15k mark, which I suspect it currently is around! Remember we only sold 16k at £100 - £80 less - in the centenary year, and that was after the positivity of a new owner had kicked in. Still plenty of time to shift a few more before next season. Good post that by your standards. |
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Post by Heckyblue on Apr 15, 2016 19:33:25 GMT 1
They only have a bigger population since all the boundaries were changed, but in actual fact, the population of the said above towns is smaller than that of Huddersfield. Huddersfield was swallowed up within Kirklees but if they had decided to call it Huddersfield instead we would be the 9th biggest place in England. The population of Huddersfield is just over 160,000 but, the wider Huddersfield area is over 250,00 and that is not including the rest of Kirklees. If youre going to include lots of other towns in the population of a town, then you;d have to do that to all the other ones aswell. so Huddersfield wouldn't be anything like the 9th biggest place in england. Exactly, the link (if it works ;-) is probably the best guide to go by. Populations |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 19:33:46 GMT 1
Always likely to plateau somewhere around the 15k mark, which I suspect it currently is around! Remember we only sold 16k at £100 - £80 less - in the centenary year, and that was after the positivity of a new owner had kicked in. Still plenty of time to shift a few more before next season. Yes but that was tickets began at £100 and were as much as £200. This is £179 across the board and I'm pretty sure the concessions are cheaper this time plus we are in the championship and dont have Stan Ternent as manager. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 19:41:59 GMT 1
11th biggest Town for population. Swindon, Reading and even Northampton have bigger populations. They only have a bigger population since all the boundaries were changed, but in actual fact, the population of the said above towns is smaller than that of Huddersfield. Huddersfield was swallowed up within Kirklees but if they had decided to call it Huddersfield instead we would be the 9th biggest place in England. The population of Huddersfield is just over 160,000 but, the wider Huddersfield area is over 250,00 and that is not including the rest of Kirklees. Also, Northampton is shit. |
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Post by zoso on Apr 15, 2016 22:05:43 GMT 1
Where did this thing about Huddersfield being the biggest town in England come from anyway? Has it ever been the biggest? Its a myth. I used to think it myself until I found out it was bollocks. Where it came from? I've no idea. is it biggest by area then? Just wondering like  Utt. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 22:14:30 GMT 1
I'm not sure, but it could be why people say its the biggest Town.
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Post by King Neil on Apr 15, 2016 22:52:35 GMT 1
Uppermill and saddleworth were a part of huddersfield untill the early 70,s when they changed the council boundaries...but are both officially still in west yorkshire and they fly the white rose of yorkshire and celebrate yorkshire day...also a pub in uppermill has town pictures allover its walls
Huddersfield as a land mass is fookin huge!
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Apr 15, 2016 23:14:53 GMT 1
I always thought the biggest town thing was in terms of area rather than population.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 23:59:33 GMT 1
Reading (population 232,662), Dudley (194,619), Northampton (189,474), Luton (185,543), Milton Keynes (184,506), Walsall (170,994), Basildon (169,822), Bournemouth (167,527), Southend (160,257), Swindon (155,432), Huddersfield (146,234).
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 16, 2016 0:47:54 GMT 1
Uppermill and saddleworth were a part of huddersfield untill the early 70,s when they changed the council boundaries...but are both officially still in west yorkshire and they fly the white rose of yorkshire and celebrate yorkshire day...also a pub in uppermill has town pictures allover its walls Huddersfield as a land mass is fookin huge! Saddleworth used to be in Yorkshire but its in Greater Manchester these days. |
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Post by King Neil on Apr 16, 2016 3:16:09 GMT 1
It still is captain..delph and diggle are still yorkshire too
Just google is saddleworth still yorkshire and it will tell you...they all field teams in the drakes cricket league..and even prince charles made a comment about the area been in yorkshire when visiting the area...people of saddleworth have even managed to get roads signs changed showing the boundaries of yorks/lancs
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 8:30:07 GMT 1
I always thought the biggest town thing was in terms of area rather than population. But then look at Doncaster on a map. Its massiver than Sheffield. |
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 16, 2016 8:45:18 GMT 1
Uppermill and saddleworth were a part of huddersfield untill the early 70,s when they changed the council boundaries...but are both officially still in west yorkshire and they fly the white rose of yorkshire and celebrate yorkshire day...also a pub in uppermill has town pictures allover its walls Huddersfield as a land mass is fookin huge! Sorry mate but they are governed by another county. E.g. police fire ambulance etc none of it is covered by west Yorkshire. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 8:52:12 GMT 1
We aren't exactly badly supported. Leeds dont get double our attendances, yet Leeds is several times larger, Bradford only get larger attendances due to their prices and this is the first season in over ten years they have averaged more than us and Birmingham (the 2nd larges city in the UK) only average a bit more than us.
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Post by rubicon on Apr 16, 2016 9:15:06 GMT 1
Sorry mate but they are governed by another county. E.g. police fire ambulance etc none of it is covered by west Yorkshire.
Governed by has got nothing to do with where it geographically is. Who gives a toss who empties your bins! Ask any MP and they'll gladly confirm that the traditional Counties still exist. It's the fault of the Local Authority that they're not signed as such, hence folks paying for their own signs, that you'll note they don't take down. Not helped by the Post Office in some cases, Ordnance Survey for not actually producing maps based on geography, but on Local Authorities and the media jumping on the latest bandwagon.
The post office could get away with a postal address of Cleveland for Stokesley, actually still in Yorkshire, but didn't dare try the same thing with Richmond, which has a Darlington postcode. They didn't put it in Durham!
Use common sense, on your argument Huddersfield isn't in Yorkshire then, but in Kirklees, which has the same governmental status as Greater Manchester. Good luck to anyone wanting to be a Kirkleesian.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 16, 2016 9:23:05 GMT 1
Burnley according to stats average about 14k in championship boosted to about 20 in premier league. They seem to do alright. Solid championship and occasional top flight for donkeys years off what feels a very small town. I work there and feels like it should have a Mansfield sized club. Isn't Burnley the best ratio of crowds to Town size in the Country? |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 16, 2016 9:25:58 GMT 1
It still is captain..delph and diggle are still yorkshire too Just google is saddleworth still yorkshire and it will tell you...they all field teams in the drakes cricket league..and even prince charles made a comment about the area been in yorkshire when visiting the area...people of saddleworth have even managed to get roads signs changed showing the boundaries of yorks/lancs Not sure they were ever part of Huddersfield, part of the West Riding yes but don't think it's ever been classed as Hudds. No longer Yorkshire either although they are staunch Yorkshiremen in Saddleworth and as you say celebrate Yorkshire day more then we do. Very odd considering they all have the Oldham, Lancashire accents. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Apr 16, 2016 9:48:28 GMT 1
It still is captain..delph and diggle are still yorkshire too Just google is saddleworth still yorkshire and it will tell you...they all field teams in the drakes cricket league..and even prince charles made a comment about the area been in yorkshire when visiting the area...people of saddleworth have even managed to get roads signs changed showing the boundaries of yorks/lancs Not sure they were ever part of Huddersfield, part of the West Riding yes but don't think it's ever been classed as Hudds. No longer Yorkshire either although they are staunch Yorkshiremen in Saddleworth and as you say celebrate Yorkshire day more then we do. Very odd considering they all have the Oldham, Lancashire accents. I've heard quite a few Lancashire accents in the south stand this year, which I found surprising. It sounds weird them saying Town in their accent. Their shit accent. |
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Post by nshackle on Apr 16, 2016 10:00:30 GMT 1
I was just saying this today - piss poor we can't sell 15000 season tickets at £179, what is actually stopping people buying them? Who at the club has said we haven't sold 15,000 tickets? Spot on. The original quote is way too simplistic IMO. My view is that despite the supposed '15,000 cap' the club will want to capture every single sale possible, whether this be an additional 100, 500 or 1000 tickets. If the total is not at the 15,000 I suspect it is very close. For this reason I don't think the club will make an announcement on total sales until the eve of the new season, or certainly well into the close season. The cap is obviously designed to engineer a 'push', i.e to stop sales stagnating at 13,000 etc. We will be at a point where 99% of hardcore keen, or fairly keen fans will have bought their tickets if they are going to buy one by now. What I think they will seek to continue capturing are any brand new sales possible, i.e. 'Bob and his lad from Brighouse', who perhaps have a general interest in football but don't follow any particular club on a regular basis. If they see an advert to see a good standard of football at £179/£23 they might be tempted to buy, whereas at £350+ they would never have been interested. Once they start attending, some may be convinced to attend on a semi regular or even regular basis. Surely this approach should be encouraged ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 10:13:46 GMT 1
Uppermill and saddleworth were a part of huddersfield untill the early 70,s when they changed the council boundaries...but are both officially still in west yorkshire and they fly the white rose of yorkshire and celebrate yorkshire day...also a pub in uppermill has town pictures allover its walls Huddersfield as a land mass is fookin huge! Sorry mate but they are governed by another county. E.g. police fire ambulance etc none of it is covered by west Yorkshire. Yes, for administrative purposes, BUT, they are still in the county of Yorkshire. None of the county boundaries changed in 1974. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 16, 2016 10:13:51 GMT 1
Not sure they were ever part of Huddersfield, part of the West Riding yes but don't think it's ever been classed as Hudds. No longer Yorkshire either although they are staunch Yorkshiremen in Saddleworth and as you say celebrate Yorkshire day more then we do. Very odd considering they all have the Oldham, Lancashire accents. I've heard quite a few Lancashire accents in the south stand this year, which I found surprising. It sounds weird them saying Town in their accent. Their shit accent. Yes there is a few from that side watch Town. Alot moved o'er border as house prices are cheaper here then in places like Diggle, Delph, Dobcross and the fact their nearest Town Oldham, is a complete shit hole now a days. |
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 16, 2016 10:23:01 GMT 1
Sorry mate but they are governed by another county. E.g. police fire ambulance etc none of it is covered by west Yorkshire. Governed by has got nothing to do with where it geographically is. Who gives a toss who empties your bins! Ask any MP and they'll gladly confirm that the traditional Counties still exist. It's the fault of the Local Authority that they're not signed as such, hence folks paying for their own signs, that you'll note they don't take down. Not helped by the Post Office in some cases, Ordnance Survey for not actually producing maps based on geography, but on Local Authorities and the media jumping on the latest bandwagon. The post office could get away with a postal address of Cleveland for Stokesley, actually still in Yorkshire, but didn't dare try the same thing with Richmond, which has a Darlington postcode. They didn't put it in Durham! Use common sense, on your argument Huddersfield isn't in Yorkshire then, but in Kirklees, which has the same governmental status as Greater Manchester. Good luck to anyone wanting to be a Kirkleesian. Annnnnnnd breathe... I can tell this subject rankles you but it's not worth having a stroke over |
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Post by zoso on Apr 16, 2016 10:36:09 GMT 1
So does anyone know how many SC's we've sold? Utt.
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Apr 16, 2016 10:38:50 GMT 1
[/quote]Also, Northampton is shit.[/quote]
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