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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 11:19:53 GMT 1
Streuth, whilst I can see it's really pissing some folks off, it's not really the end of the world is it?Coming down from Stockton, I usually get bugger all on any station at all going back. I do have DAB, but cant be arsed to tune it in to Radio Leeds, only to lose it half way back up the A1(M) Even worse though, by the time you've got back to the car these days, I've generally missed all the results barring jockland on Radio 5 which does come through loud and clear on DAB. Not only that, they'll never be mentioned again either half the time, if its not the Olympics, it's bloody Rugby Union or cricket etc, followed by Claridge and co. and we never get a mention on there. If in the South Stand I rarely even find out the half times, as most of the time Internet connection is shite in the stadium. Her indoors can be very unimpressed when the first thing I do as I walk back through the door is check out the scores on the pc. Of course if I was a right arsehole, I could always check on the phone whilst driving along at 70mph or thereabouts.........I don't. No, not the end of the world... just the end of part of the match day experience that has been with me and thousands of others for years and years. You've never had that... so you won't miss it. Lucky you! That's exactly it. Some things are sacred. Getting back to the car in time to hear the post-match review of the game on local radio, and then the interviews with manager etc. are one of those things. If Radio Leeds can't provide this service then we should be looking to contract with another radio station. |
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Post by Stavros on Aug 9, 2016 11:20:42 GMT 1
Quite so. I bought the wife a DAB radio last year which she runs in our kitchen. It doesn't pick up RL but does find BBC Radio Nottingham, and all points thereabouts.  We have DAB in both the kitchen and the bedroom, neither pick up RL, we bought my dad a pocket DAB radio and that doesn't pick it up either Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards I live in the Leeds/Bradford area and it works fine, which is kind of ironic isn't it? Presumably they have info around where the best signal is? A bit like a mobile phone company would. If the signal is significantly stronger in the other clubs' areas, shouldn't that factor into their decision? |
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Post by WaterlooTerrier on Aug 9, 2016 11:20:56 GMT 1
I have just had this response back from Garth Jones! If you look at other stations that have large sporting patches like us – Radio Sheffield, Manchester, London and WM – they either rotate which club they commentate on or simply do not commentate on certain teams at all. Their pre and post-match programmes are also joined up; meaning each of their clubs may only get 10 minutes of coverage. At BBC Radio Leeds we have striven to do more for fans – we provide commentary of every game for all three of our Football League clubs. We have dedicated programmes on Saturdays for all three – meaning each club gets 4 hours coverage, rather than 20 minutes! It is this point that annoys me the most! Radio Sheffield have to cover the MASSIVE, Sheff Utd, Barnsley, Rotherham, Doncaster and Chesterfield. Thats double the amount of football league teams RL have to do!! Travelling back from away games, we tend to pick up RS a little while before RL and their post match coverage is just head and shoulders above anything our lot have ever been near! |
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Post by Stavros on Aug 9, 2016 11:22:19 GMT 1
I have just had this response back from Garth Jones! If you look at other stations that have large sporting patches like us – Radio Sheffield, Manchester, London and WM – they either rotate which club they commentate on or simply do not commentate on certain teams at all. Their pre and post-match programmes are also joined up; meaning each of their clubs may only get 10 minutes of coverage. At BBC Radio Leeds we have striven to do more for fans – we provide commentary of every game for all three of our Football League clubs. We have dedicated programmes on Saturdays for all three – meaning each club gets 4 hours coverage, rather than 20 minutes! It is this point that annoys me the most! Radio Sheffield have to cover the MASSIVE, Sheff Utd, Barnsley, Rotherham, Doncaster and Chesterfield. Thats double the amount of football league teams RL have to do!! Travelling back from away games, we tend to pick up RS a little while before RL and their post match coverage is just head and shoulders above anything our lot have ever been near! And is on until 7pm instead of 6pm....... |
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Post by totalstripes on Aug 9, 2016 11:23:57 GMT 1
Joining the boycott and won't be listening tonight either! Will watch Sky instead. The BBC is outdated and just repeats what commercial broadcasters already do. Can't the Club negotiate with another radio broadcaster such as the Pulse as the BBC have essentially dumped Town from mainstream radio in what is likely to be our biggest season in years?
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Post by hxfiver on Aug 9, 2016 11:30:09 GMT 1
Joining the boycott and won't be listening tonight either! Will watch Sky instead. The BBC is outdated and just repeats what commercial broadcasters already do. Can't the Club negotiate with another radio broadcaster such as the Pulse as the BBC have essentially dumped Town from mainstream radio in what is likely to be our biggest season in years? Pulse covers all Bradford City games as far as I'm aware so we could end up with a similar situation. |
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 9, 2016 11:31:25 GMT 1
At the risk of being told to search through 10 pages of this thread, has anyone had a response from Oggy about this?
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Post by kes on Aug 9, 2016 11:31:29 GMT 1
Remember the season under Clarke when they stopped commentary on every game on midweek games and tried to convince us that it was for our benefit as they would be able to produce a better program by combining it all into one show. Probably done to save money - but as always when companies do this they try & convince us it`s for our convenience or benefit. Personally have no interest in listening to anything they`ve got to say about Bradford or Leeds. Disgraceful to shift Town from AM IMO.
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Post by chriseastwood on Aug 9, 2016 11:32:31 GMT 1
My DAB radio picks up Radio Leeds no problem, are we on tonight? They've given it out this morning that Towm commentary tonight is on DAB. Bradford City play tonight but Leeds don't play till tomorrow! |
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Post by royrace on Aug 9, 2016 11:36:44 GMT 1
And therein lies the problem ... MT if we had Radio Huddersfield that was a Huddersfield Radio station that 'spread its wings' and served such as Bradford, Halifax, Leeds etc. I would absolutely expect the Radio station to be biased towards Huddersfield Town. Thus my question, if it is a Leeds radio station, then what's the issue with them prioritising Leeds United!!??.if it is a Yorkshire station then the argument is completely different and again, why is it called BBC radio Leeds in that case?. Presumably linked to where there is a BBC studio based perhaps?. The fact you think its a Leeds radio station says it all really  As a Town fan listening to them crawl up Leeds fans arses every week I can very well see how you might!!! Some info here: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7751186.stmSome stations are sensibly and appropriately named, others named after one of the cities served. The fact of the matter is it means fk all that the station is called Radio Leeds or should I say it should mean fk all. It's effectively Radio West Yorkshire and funded by us mugs. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Aug 9, 2016 11:38:59 GMT 1
MT if we had Radio Huddersfield that was a Huddersfield Radio station that 'spread its wings' and served such as Bradford, Halifax, Leeds etc. I would absolutely expect the Radio station to be biased towards Huddersfield Town. Thus my question, if it is a Leeds radio station, then what's the issue with them prioritising Leeds United!!??.if it is a Yorkshire station then the argument is completely different and again, why is it called BBC radio Leeds in that case?. Presumably linked to where there is a BBC studio based perhaps?. The fact you think its a Leeds radio station says it all really As a Town fan listening to them crawl up Leeds fans arses every week I can very well see how you might!!! Some info here: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7751186.stmSome stations are sensibly and appropriately named, others named after one of the cities served. The fact of the matter is it means fk all that the station is called Radio Leeds or should I say it should mean fk all. It's effectively Radio West Yorkshire and funded by us mugs. Read my post again please. I was asking the question re what the service commitment of the station is. I did not say it was / is a Leeds station. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 9, 2016 11:48:31 GMT 1
It's OK folks, BBC Radio Leeds knew it would cause problems last weekend but they did it for our own good. Mr Jones has commented:
"We are very aware of the huge away game coming up at Newcastle on Saturday, when Town commentary will be on DAB (as all three of our WY clubs play at the same time).
We know it would be a disaster for Town fans to tune in all excited for Saturday's game on AM and then not hear it and have no time to solve the problem. By having Town on DAB v Brentford it has helped alert fans to this situation and gives them time to understand where Town will be this season and act according, if they wish too."
I presume a few warnings given out last week via the MW frequencies was considered to be ineffectual by the local BBC boffins. I hope they don't branch out into protective window shutters or we'd all have our windows put through before they came round to sell us some 
If that is a genuine response the mind boggles, it really does, clearly its not worth trying to get any sense from Gareth. I'll wait and see what the organ grinder thinks. I must say though it is starting to shed some light on the decision making process and who is responsible, at least partially, for it. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 9, 2016 11:51:47 GMT 1
The fact you think its a Leeds radio station says it all really As a Town fan listening to them crawl up Leeds fans arses every week I can very well see how you might!!! Some info here: news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7751186.stmSome stations are sensibly and appropriately named, others named after one of the cities served. The fact of the matter is it means fk all that the station is called Radio Leeds or should I say it should mean fk all. It's effectively Radio West Yorkshire and funded by us mugs. Read my post again please. I was asking the question re what the service commitment of the station is. I did not say it was / is a Leeds station. Posted link earlier - www.bbc.co.uk/radioleeds/help |
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 9, 2016 11:54:07 GMT 1
Streuth, whilst I can see it's really pissing some folks off, it's not really the end of the world is it? Coming down from Stockton, I usually get bugger all on any station at all going back. I do have DAB, but cant be arsed to tune it in to Radio Leeds, only to lose it half way back up the A1(M) Even worse though, by the time you've got back to the car these days, I've generally missed all the results barring jockland on Radio 5 which does come through loud and clear on DAB. Not only that, they'll never be mentioned again either half the time, if its not the Olympics, it's bloody Rugby Union or cricket etc, followed by Claridge and co. and we never get a mention on there. If in the South Stand I rarely even find out the half times, as most of the time Internet connection is shite in the stadium. Her indoors can be very unimpressed when the first thing I do as I walk back through the door is check out the scores on the pc. Of course if I was a right arsehole, I could always check on the phone whilst driving along at 70mph or thereabouts.........I don't. You have been at the game, maybe a key town player went off injured, you might want to know how serious it is? You have been at the game, key moment in the game, did the ball cross the goal line? Was it a pen? Was it yellow or red card offence? You want to know Wagner's viewpoint etc etc These things are important to some fans and as has been said, its part of the match day experience for many, me included |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Aug 9, 2016 11:54:30 GMT 1
It's OK folks, BBC Radio Leeds knew it would cause problems last weekend but they did it for our own good. Mr Jones has commented:
"We are very aware of the huge away game coming up at Newcastle on Saturday, when Town commentary will be on DAB (as all three of our WY clubs play at the same time).
We know it would be a disaster for Town fans to tune in all excited for Saturday's game on AM and then not hear it and have no time to solve the problem. By having Town on DAB v Brentford it has helped alert fans to this situation and gives them time to understand where Town will be this season and act according, if they wish too."
I presume a few warnings given out last week via the MW frequencies was considered to be ineffectual by the local BBC boffins. I hope they don't branch out into protective window shutters or we'd all have our windows put through before they came round to sell us some
If that is a genuine response the mind boggles, it really does, clearly its not worth trying to get any sense from Gareth. I'll wait and see what the organ grinder thinks. I must say though it is starting to shed some light on the decision making process and who is responsible, at least partially, for it. I can assure you it is genuine. It was from his latest response after a few attempts I have had in trying to find out exactly why last Saturday they didn't just split the frequencies. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 9, 2016 12:01:02 GMT 1
If that is a genuine response the mind boggles, it really does, clearly its not worth trying to get any sense from Gareth. I'll wait and see what the organ grinder thinks. I must say though it is starting to shed some light on the decision making process and who is responsible, at least partially, for it. I can assure you it is genuine. It was from his latest response after a few attempts I have had in trying to find out exactly why last Saturday they didn't just split the frequencies. Before the start of the season, RL seemed to be shitting themselves about commentary rights at Leeds. Kept tweeting that they hadn't heard every few hours then a big fanfare when they got the "good news". Can't help but feel that Town bend over backwards for RL while the other 2 play hardball and get what they want. |
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Post by detox on Aug 9, 2016 12:13:35 GMT 1
Think I shall unfollow West Yorkshire Sport on Twitter as a result of this best thing to do is inundate their twitter site with complaints....that will really annoy them..also @bbcradioleeds  |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Aug 9, 2016 12:14:06 GMT 1
I'm not disputing this at all, Morley. I am actually AGREEING with you! The fact that it is called Radio Leeds shows which way it will always lean. If they believe that the name of the station leads (pardon the pun) them to focus on just one city, they haven't read their own, published remit; www.bbc.co.uk/radioleeds/help That remit is the very reason they should be called BBC West Yorkshire. "West Yorkshire Sport" isn't fooling anyone. I (and I'm sure most of us) wouldn't seriously suggest that Bradford shouldn't be covered (there's been times in the past that WE were the lowest-ranked club after all), just that with 2 analogue frequencies/bands available and 2 games to cover, that coverage should be split between the 2 clubs. |
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Post by detox on Aug 9, 2016 12:15:11 GMT 1
I can assure you it is genuine. It was from his latest response after a few attempts I have had in trying to find out exactly why last Saturday they didn't just split the frequencies. Before the start of the season, RL seemed to be shitting themselves about commentary rights at Leeds. Kept tweeting that they hadn't heard every few hours then a big fanfare when they got the "good news". Can't help but feel that Town bend over backwards for RL while the other 2 play hardball and get what they want. Do we have a communications guru at Town ? |
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Post by kes on Aug 9, 2016 12:24:20 GMT 1
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Post by towntastic on Aug 9, 2016 12:33:06 GMT 1
I got the standard reply and sent the following back :
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I do not feel you have addressed my points which were around the pre match and after match coverage not the game itself. You used to split frequencies at kick off and go separate ways which always worked. I cannot see any justification for Bradford to get two frequencies before and after the game when surely we could have split off the am or fm to enable us to listen in the car. I have no problem with DAB at home but the point is listening to Radio Leeds while in the car on the way to and from the ground. As I said before other clubs have other stations covering them also leaving us vulnerable.
I suppose the next step is to alert the club and see what they feel about this
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Post by kes on Aug 9, 2016 12:45:48 GMT 1
Wonder how long it will take for the good old Examiner to report Town fans unhappy at DAB radio switch. Probably don`t even know yet.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Aug 9, 2016 12:47:29 GMT 1
I can assure you it is genuine. It was from his latest response after a few attempts I have had in trying to find out exactly why last Saturday they didn't just split the frequencies. Before the start of the season, RL seemed to be shitting themselves about commentary rights at Leeds. Kept tweeting that they hadn't heard every few hours then a big fanfare when they got the "good news". Can't help but feel that Town bend over backwards for RL while the other 2 play hardball and get what they want. Like I said last night, it seems that it's always the squeaky wheel that gets the oil. It's a source of both pride and frustration that at times as a club we seem "too nice"- both on and off the field. It doesn't stop refs treating our players like dirty Northern scum, and it doesn't stop the football authorities from dealing with us harshly either (remember the Billing red card last season?). Nor does it stop the media viewing us as at best plucky little underdogs and at worst a tiny club with no right to be in the top two layers of the pyramid. Whilst other clubs laugh at FFP rules and get a short transfer embargo (which doesn't affect them as they've already spent big) and a paltry fine that is almost always suspended anyway. |
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Post by hasta el pueblo on Aug 9, 2016 13:19:36 GMT 1
Next time Jones, Hannah or Pope rock up at Canalside to do an interview with Wagner or any of the players,I hope we kick them off the premises, tossers.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Aug 9, 2016 13:35:33 GMT 1
Next time Jones, Hannah or Pope rock up at Canalside to do an interview with Wagner or any of the players,I hope we kick them off the premises, tossers. If you look at the wording in point 3 of Gareth Jones copy and paste response, the club also agree that DAB is what we want: We have consulted with many Huddersfield fans and the club itself on this issue and the response was clear – Huddersfield fans would prefer DAB to AM.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 9, 2016 14:02:35 GMT 1
Next time Jones, Hannah or Pope rock up at Canalside to do an interview with Wagner or any of the players,I hope we kick them off the premises, tossers. If you look at the wording in point 3 of Gareth Jones copy and paste response, the club also agree that DAB is what we want: We have consulted with many Huddersfield fans and the club itself on this issue and the response was clear – Huddersfield fans would prefer DAB to AM.
So who, at the club, agreed ? The same as the invisible fans that they pretend think it's a good idea Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards |
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Post by hasta el pueblo on Aug 9, 2016 14:08:08 GMT 1
Just had a response from BBC complaints department, word for word the same as Jones' response, they don't give a shiny shit about us without DAB in our cars.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 9, 2016 14:13:42 GMT 1
Not going to hold my breath but just tweeted this to RL
@wysdaily any chance, instead of lying and patronising us, you can just admit you couldn't give a toss about @htafcdotcom and their fans
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Post by town1 on Aug 9, 2016 14:18:44 GMT 1
Need Penistone FM to get the contract. Would be more entertaining. As long as Penistone Church FC are away!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2016 14:22:29 GMT 1
currently i'm looking at this as follows.
Firstly who gives a shit about radio leeds? maybe it is time for town to ditch them?
Secondly if we're clever, town and town fans can use this to their advantage, in a them against us scenario.
Thirdly, it maybe damage limitation because leeds are shit and they dont want us rubbing it in.
Now for me I'm alright cos I'm DAB sorted, but i can understand the frustration of those who are not. Also good luck after the games. Fortunately my old man's car has DAB, but i feel so sad for those supporters who are now left with nothing. They pay their licence fee like everyone else and they are being shit on.
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As a Town fan listening to them crawl up Leeds fans arses every week I can very well see how you might!!!
