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[Captainslapper]

There won't have been more than 14000 at the chickens game.
If they ever released the actual attendance figures then this dullard would never come on this site again.

[ben1987]

Why rise to him?

[softboy]

just out of interest does anyone know when we started to quote tickets sold and not actual attendance as this discussion appears to have been going on for years

[Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier]

Aug 21, 2016 17:13:44 GMT 1 softboy said:

just out of interest does anyone know when we started to quote tickets sold and not actual attendance as this discussion appears to have been going on for years

It has, for years. At least seven.

[Grandfather Berty of Cleck]

Aug 20, 2016 20:00:10 GMT 1 softboy said:

if people are not going to turn out next week to watch town then quite frankly they are not going to turn up all

I went yesterday, and I'll be there v QPR,
but can't make it next week.
So that's THAT theory out of the window.

[Grandfather Berty of Cleck]

Aug 21, 2016 2:21:21 GMT 1 andrewt said:

Can the club count season card holders who don't turn up towards the official attendance? If so should they be allowed to?

Every club does it these days.
Town did used to put the true 'gate' on the website, but I haven't seen it for a while.

[Deleted]

The best example I've seen of clubs providing an inflated figure for the attendance (apart from Bradford) is Arsenal. When we played them in the cup a few years ago, they reported the attendance as 60,000 in a 60,000 capacity stadium but their was at least 5000 empty seats. Pretty much everyone does it these days.

[wildbillthetownfan]

I know of 4 season ticket holders who have not yet seen a game because they play cricket. Two of my mates "season ticket holders" are off on their jollies on Thursday and that is the problem at this stage of the season, when the cricket season is over and most folk have had their jollies, the gate's will also go up.

[Captainslapper]

Aug 21, 2016 17:40:57 GMT 1 Grandfather Berty of Cleck said:

Aug 21, 2016 2:21:21 GMT 1 andrewt said:

Can the club count season card holders who don't turn up towards the official attendance? If so should they be allowed to?

Every club does it these days.
Town did used to put the true 'gate' on the website, but I haven't seen it for a while.

They used to put the true 'attendance' figure on there, not the 'gate' figure.

"Gate' is how many tickets youve shifted for the game whether they turn up or not and EVERY club gives that figure out now.

So long as everyone uses the same system its still a good gauge to a clubs support, though some clubs try to manipulate the figures by 'selling' a load of freebie tickets to local groups and schools like Mk Dons, who's gate figure is at least double the attendance figure.

This season will be the same as about 85% of our history- bigger figures than the chickens.

[ben1987]

Realistically, who gives a shit?
We won.

[terriersyndrome]

Aug 21, 2016 17:51:16 GMT 1 @marr said:

The best example I've seen of clubs providing an inflated figure for the attendance (apart from Bradford) is Arsenal. When we played them in the cup a few years ago, they reported the attendance as 60,000 in a 60,000 capacity stadium but their was at least 5000 empty seats. Pretty much everyone does it these days.

Brighton are a good example of that.

[allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF)]

Aug 21, 2016 9:03:58 GMT 1 swollentoe said:

The problem with moving 1000 people from there allocated ST seat to the south stand is they can't then sell the extra 1000 around the stadium so the club are losing money on the south stand whether we sell 500 extra home fans every home game

Before the assassins are sent over pennines just think it through.

We need the income. If our business model is to be self sufficent it is important that we maximise our income from away fans (on an equitable basis). WE can not rely on Dean to keep topping up the club from his personal wealth.
Short term cash hits can be justified to get/keep the momentum going under the revolution
Yes the NSL and others in that end change the atmosphere very much for the better. It does then rebound around the rest of the ground. All those are good but do not necessarily stop an atmosphere from being generated.
Sell up to (say 2000) sc in the south end on the proviso that the club can relocate them when the visiting team buy all 3900 tickets and pay up front. Otherwise the usual allocoation of 2900 ish
Segregate the South stand properly to minimise the number of seats lost to segregation. When fully taken by town we will have to hold hadns through the fence.
Have a section of the ground, Northstand that is designated as walk up attendeance only. Theses seats guaranteed to the south stand sc when the whole stand is away suppoters.
Make a proper standing area in the south stand and improve the weather proofing it would then tick alot of boxes to improve the second choice.
Alot of the "new or returning fans will take a bit to get confident in being noisy, NSL keep it up! It will become the norm


Dean was thinking outside the box with his appointment of Wagner, we as supporters need to do the same, we can share the vision and contribute. We need to bend in the wind to accomodate the plan and facillitate Dean's vision. The more we do as supporters the more Dean will want to stay and lead.


We can not ask for more from Dean Hoyle, we need him. (Just look down the road to beeston)


UTT


PS 2 brilliant things after the game yesterday.


-How many stayed on to thank the team at the end, myself included, it was great.

-On the way out there were 2 young lads (4 or 5) chanting holding dads hand, i give them a bit of support with a brief "UP THE TOWN" got a smile off the next generation of sc holders.


Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/thread/101480/south-stand-away-allocation#ixzz4HzOB5m1v

[terrierng]

Aug 21, 2016 17:11:55 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Why rise to him?

Cos he s a fucking wanker

[ben1987]

Aug 21, 2016 18:41:12 GMT 1 terrierng said:

Aug 21, 2016 17:11:55 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Why rise to him?

Cos he s a fucking wanker

Tbf, so are you.

[terrierng]

Aug 21, 2016 18:57:56 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Aug 21, 2016 18:41:12 GMT 1 terrierng said:

Cos he s a fucking wanker

Tbf, so are you.

Quite correct but your a c***;D

[ben1987]

Aug 21, 2016 19:00:45 GMT 1 terrierng said:

Aug 21, 2016 18:57:56 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Tbf, so are you.

Quite correct but your a c***;D

I am tbf

[hypotenuse]

Man U have a 76000 capacity and attendance is always 75000+
However, Greater Manchester Police said that few games last season were anywhere near that and 1 game (Bournemouth?) had about 16000 less

[allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF)]

Aug 21, 2016 19:09:58 GMT 1 hypotenuse said:

Man U have a 76000 capacity and attendance is always 75000+
However, Greater Manchester Police said that few games last season were anywhere near that and 1 game (Bournemouth?) had about 16000 less

they werent great last year and it was bournemouth

[Deleted]

Aug 21, 2016 19:17:01 GMT 1 allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) said:

Aug 21, 2016 19:09:58 GMT 1 hypotenuse said:

Man U have a 76000 capacity and attendance is always 75000+
However, Greater Manchester Police said that few games last season were anywhere near that and 1 game (Bournemouth?) had about 16000 less

they werent great last year and it was bournemouth

I don't think that is the point he is making. 😊

[queenybantam07]

Aug 21, 2016 16:04:56 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

Aug 21, 2016 15:14:18 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

I actually heard there was circa 11,000 in the gayfarm yesterday - can anyone clarify this?

Once again, more home fans that yous.

Oh, and I believe our attendance yesterday was less than ST's sold, strange that, given our numbers are vastly inflated by the number of tickets sold theory.

Happy Sunday's.

I take it Maths isn't your strong point? 17500 Inc approx 500 away = 17000 home 'gate' approx.
20,000 Inc approx 2000 away = 18000 home 'gate' approx..

You lot are hilarious! 😂😂😂

Oh, it is.

Now, the point you're struggling to grasp is that your attendance wasn't actually 20000 yesterday, it was 16,000. With 2,000 away fans, that would seem you had 14k home fans.

Now given we've sold 18,000 ST's/Flexis, with the 500 Coventry fans yesterday, if we do indeed anounce our attendances as total tickets sold, why wasn't the attendance announced at 18,500, y'know, given that was how many tickets were sold yesterday?

[Deleted]

Aug 21, 2016 22:23:31 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Aug 21, 2016 16:04:56 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

I take it Maths isn't your strong point? 17500 Inc approx 500 away = 17000 home 'gate' approx.
20,000 Inc approx 2000 away = 18000 home 'gate' approx..

You lot are hilarious! 😂😂😂

Oh, it is.

Now, the point you're struggling to grasp is that your attendance wasn't actually 20000 yesterday, it was 16,000. With 2,000 away fans, that would seem you had 14k home fans.

Now given we've sold 18,000 ST's/Flexis, with the 500 Coventry fans yesterday, if we do indeed anounce our attendances as total tickets sold, why wasn't the attendance announced at 18,500, y'know, given that was how many tickets were sold yesterday?

Remind us what its like with a half empty ground
. We're all ears.

[morleyterrier]

Aug 21, 2016 22:23:31 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Aug 21, 2016 16:04:56 GMT 1 terriersyndrome said:

I take it Maths isn't your strong point? 17500 Inc approx 500 away = 17000 home 'gate' approx.
20,000 Inc approx 2000 away = 18000 home 'gate' approx..

You lot are hilarious! 😂😂😂

Oh, it is.

Now, the point you're struggling to grasp is that your attendance wasn't actually 20000 yesterday, it was 16,000. With 2,000 away fans, that would seem you had 14k home fans.

Now given we've sold 18,000 ST's/Flexis, with the 500 Coventry fans yesterday, if we do indeed anounce our attendances as total tickets sold, why wasn't the attendance announced at 18,500, y'know, given that was how many tickets were sold yesterday?

Couple of wins and another one crawls out of the woodwork.

A couple of defeats, the crevices will again become appealing.

[queenybantam07]

Aug 21, 2016 16:58:35 GMT 1 DATM Travel Agent said:

Aug 21, 2016 15:14:18 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

I actually heard there was circa 11,000 in the gayfarm yesterday - can anyone clarify this?

Once again, more home fans that yous.

Oh, and I believe our attendance yesterday was less than ST's sold, strange that, given our numbers are vastly inflated by the number of tickets sold theory.

Happy Sunday's.

There were 16,119 in attendance yesterday (approx 14,000 home fans), which is several thousand more than the number of 23-game season tickets sold by Bradford in exchange for cash.

Any proof to substantiate your claim?

I'm baffled, as every ticket sold were indeed exchanged for cash.

[queenybantam07]

Aug 21, 2016 22:26:35 GMT 1 @marr said:

Aug 21, 2016 22:23:31 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Oh, it is.

Now, the point you're struggling to grasp is that your attendance wasn't actually 20000 yesterday, it was 16,000. With 2,000 away fans, that would seem you had 14k home fans.

Now given we've sold 18,000 ST's/Flexis, with the 500 Coventry fans yesterday, if we do indeed anounce our attendances as total tickets sold, why wasn't the attendance announced at 18,500, y'know, given that was how many tickets were sold yesterday?

Remind us what its like with a half empty ground
. We're all ears.

I've no idea - thankfully, Valley Parade has been well attended for the past 4 years.

[queenybantam07]

Aug 21, 2016 22:27:33 GMT 1 morleyterrier said:

Aug 21, 2016 22:23:31 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Oh, it is.

Now, the point you're struggling to grasp is that your attendance wasn't actually 20000 yesterday, it was 16,000. With 2,000 away fans, that would seem you had 14k home fans.

Now given we've sold 18,000 ST's/Flexis, with the 500 Coventry fans yesterday, if we do indeed anounce our attendances as total tickets sold, why wasn't the attendance announced at 18,500, y'know, given that was how many tickets were sold yesterday?

Couple of wins and another one crawls out of the woodwork.

A couple of defeats, the crevices will again become appealing.

Three in a row, mate.

[Deleted]

Aug 21, 2016 22:27:52 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Aug 21, 2016 16:58:35 GMT 1 DATM Travel Agent said:

There were 16,119 in attendance yesterday (approx 14,000 home fans), which is several thousand more than the number of 23-game season tickets sold by Bradford in exchange for cash.

Any proof to substantiate your claim?

I'm baffled, as every ticket sold were indeed exchanged for cash.

Apart from the free to under 11s you complete c***. What's it like to be the 8th biggest city in the UK and have the 11th biggest Town in the UK have better support?

[morleyterrier]

Aug 21, 2016 22:29:41 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Aug 21, 2016 22:27:33 GMT 1 morleyterrier said:

Couple of wins and another one crawls out of the woodwork.

A couple of defeats, the crevices will again become appealing.

Three in a row, mate.

Did you come on here after your play-off embarrassment?

[DATM Travel Agent]

Aug 21, 2016 22:30:34 GMT 1 @marr said:

Aug 21, 2016 22:27:52 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Any proof to substantiate your claim?

I'm baffled, as every ticket sold were indeed exchanged for cash.

Apart from the free to under 11s you complete c***. What's it like to be the 8th biggest city in the UK and have the 11th biggest Town in the UK have better support?

And the flexi tickets which are also counted as season tickets.

[DATM Travel Agent]

Aug 21, 2016 22:27:52 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Aug 21, 2016 16:58:35 GMT 1 DATM Travel Agent said:

There were 16,119 in attendance yesterday (apoo pprox 14,000 home fans), which is several thousand more than the number of 23-game season tickets sold by Bradford in exchange for cash.

Any proof to substantiate your claim?

I'm baffled, as every ticket sold were indeed exchanged for cash.

How many 23-game season tickets (not flexi-tickets) have been sold in exchange for cash (not given away for free)? Certainly far from the 18,000 which your club claim to have "sold".

[queenybantam07]

Aug 21, 2016 22:43:09 GMT 1 DATM Travel Agent said:

Aug 21, 2016 22:27:52 GMT 1 queenybantam07 said:

Any proof to substantiate your claim?

I'm baffled, as every ticket sold were indeed exchanged for cash.

How many 23-game season tickets (not flexi-tickets) have been sold in exchange for cash (not given away for free)? Certainly far from the 18,000 which your club claim to have "sold".

Oh, full paying adults, you mean? That would be similar to last season, so circa 14,000ish - confirmed on an article in T&A, should you wish to troll through the site? Doesn't that also surpass your full paying adult sales?