Referees

[King Curtis]

Dec 18, 2016 23:01:13 GMT 1 araucaria said:

Dec 17, 2016 19:42:35 GMT 1 Baby Ate My Eight Ball said:

Just seen it on the highlights and it looked a penalty to me. We'd have been apoplectic if we hadn't been awarded it.

Tim Robinson, our ref for the 1-1 home draw with Charlton two seasons ago, up to his old tricks. First he disallows a perfectly good goal for Rotherham and then he gives Wednesday a 93rd minute penalty and sends the Rotherham player off when there appears to be no contact. I recall being apoplectic at the end of that Charlton game when Ben Haim pushed Vaughan in the chest with both hands and Robinson said no penalty. Then Charlton went up the other end for a 92nd minute equaliser. Wallace's red card was rescinded and it will be interesting to see if Rotherham appeal against the sending off.

This guy was an absolute disgrace that day!! Has he ever reffed a Town game since? Awful referee!!

[Morning Norwood]

Dec 30, 2016 16:38:18 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

Dec 18, 2016 23:01:13 GMT 1 araucaria said:

Tim Robinson, our ref for the 1-1 home draw with Charlton two seasons ago, up to his old tricks. First he disallows a perfectly good goal for Rotherham and then he gives Wednesday a 93rd minute penalty and sends the Rotherham player off when there appears to be no contact. I recall being apoplectic at the end of that Charlton game when Ben Haim pushed Vaughan in the chest with both hands and Robinson said no penalty. Then Charlton went up the other end for a 92nd minute equaliser. Wallace's red card was rescinded and it will be interesting to see if Rotherham appeal against the sending off.

This guy was an absolute disgrace that day!! Has he ever reffed a Town game since? Awful referee!!

Remember that one well! Still one of worst decisions I've ever seen at Town

[buckers]

Dec 30, 2016 17:00:36 GMT 1 Morning Norwood said:

Dec 30, 2016 16:38:18 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

This guy was an absolute disgrace that day!! Has he ever reffed a Town game since? Awful referee!!

Remember that one well! Still one of worst decisions I've ever seen at Town

To this day that is still the worst referring preformande I've ever seen at a town game.

He wasn't bordering on cheating, he just plain was cheating.

[impact]

Dec 30, 2016 15:11:25 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Dec 30, 2016 14:20:09 GMT 1 impact said:

I mean, seriously, how could he not see this?

hate to be pedantic but this photo is a slightly different angle to it from the refs..  the lino spots it immediately, thats what he is there for(this one very rarely gets owt wrong)...

maybe the ref cant just see over kodjas skull?

The hand is above the head, it's not a hard spot. So he either wasn't paying attention or bottled it. Thankfully he had England's best lineman on his team.

[Deleted]

There should be at least some sort of inquiry or analysis in to why the Reading game, in a misty 2nd half was abandoned, yet a pea-souper in League 2 & still the game completes...

But there won't be.

The FA & FL really need to start to do something to achieve some degree of consistency into the game. Sadly they're governed by FIFA who would much rather have controversy at a club level to take the focus of them lining their own pockets...

[morleyterrier]

Dec 18, 2016 23:33:22 GMT 1 terrier25 said:

Dec 18, 2016 23:01:13 GMT 1 araucaria said:

Tim Robinson, our ref for the 1-1 home draw with Charlton two seasons ago, up to his old tricks. First he disallows a perfectly good goal for Rotherham and then he gives Wednesday a 93rd minute penalty and sends the Rotherham player off when there appears to be no contact. I recall being apoplectic at the end of that Charlton game when Ben Haim pushed Vaughan in the chest with both hands and Robinson said no penalty. Then Charlton went up the other end for a 92nd minute equaliser. Wallace's red card was rescinded and it will be interesting to see if Rotherham appeal against the sending off.

Forget the two stonewallers we were denied against Wigan, that one referred to above in that Charlton game was the single worst refereeing decision I have witnessed in my 34 years watching football. I haven't been as angry after a game as I was that day, that c*nt cost us two points at a time when three would have given us great momentum under Mark Lillis.
It was worse that the Reading cup tie, Robinson had been involved in a 'few words' with Vaughan minutes before that incident and his denial of the penalty was undoubtedly his way of getting back at Vaughan, which is so unprofessional and he should be removed from refereeing for LIFE for that decision - it was BIAS and not incompetence.

Completely agree, I was beside myself with rage during and after this Charlton match.

We have had some shocking refs so to call this match the worst display in living memory is a big call. It was though, made the cheating bastards in charge of such as Wigan and Birmingham at home look almost competent.

That day against Charlton beggared belief and the atmosphere in the stands and when that equaliser went in was hostile to say the least.

Anyway, penalty for us today maybe?. Not a fecking chance!!.

[buxtonboys101]

Peter Willis was the worst of all time. He was the guy who eventually sent Graeme Hogg off in the 1985 FA Cup final to be first referee to send someone off in such an important match. I knew he would do something like that he just loved to be controversial. Willis did us out of promotion virtually in the late 1970s at Tranmere when we lost a game 3-0 when we should have had at least two penalties. It was a disgrace and led to rioting after the game. Worse was to come when he took us for the League Cup game against Coventry at home the next season. They were in the top flight at the time and we were struggling in the fourth division yet we outplayed them. But Willis had to get involved and after a few stupid decisions he sent off a Town player for nothing and awarded them a penalty which was highly doubtful. We eventually lost the match 2-0 but again he was the instigator of it.

It made not the slightest difference to his referee career prospects as up the greasy pole he went right up to that ground breaking day at Wembley.

[Chips Longhorn]

Dec 31, 2016 8:27:47 GMT 1 buxtonboys101 said:

Peter Willis was the worst of all time. He was the guy who eventually sent Graeme Hogg off in the 1985 FA Cup final to be first referee to send someone off in such an important match. I knew he would do something like that he just loved to be controversial. Willis did us out of promotion virtually in the late 1970s at Tranmere when we lost a game 3-0 when we should have had at least two penalties. It was a disgrace and led to rioting after the game. Worse was to come when he took us for the League Cup game against Coventry at home the next season. They were in the top flight at the time and we were struggling in the fourth division yet we outplayed them. But Willis had to get involved and after a few stupid decisions he sent off a Town player for nothing and awarded them a penalty which was highly doubtful. We eventually lost the match 2-0 but again he was the instigator of it.

It made not the slightest difference to his referee career prospects as up the greasy pole he went right up to that ground breaking day at Wembley.

It was Kevin Moran mate

[araucaria]

Dec 31, 2016 8:27:47 GMT 1 buxtonboys101 said:

Peter Willis was the worst of all time. He was the guy who eventually sent Graeme Hogg off in the 1985 FA Cup final to be first referee to send someone off in such an important match. I knew he would do something like that he just loved to be controversial. Willis did us out of promotion virtually in the late 1970s at Tranmere when we lost a game 3-0 when we should have had at least two penalties. It was a disgrace and led to rioting after the game. Worse was to come when he took us for the League Cup game against Coventry at home the next season. They were in the top flight at the time and we were struggling in the fourth division yet we outplayed them. But Willis had to get involved and after a few stupid decisions he sent off a Town player for nothing and awarded them a penalty which was highly doubtful. We eventually lost the match 2-0 but again he was the instigator of it.

It made not the slightest difference to his referee career prospects as up the greasy pole he went right up to that ground breaking day at Wembley.

Don't forget a 2-0 defeat at Doncaster where Steve Smith was sent off for complaining about a terrible tackle that broke Kevin Johnson's shin.

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The ref caused a chap in back of South Stand to virtually implode with rage today.

It was rather amusing!

[jb1]

I thought the ref was very good today. Quite few times when he let play go and then pulled it back when no advantage emerged. He could have sent Whitehead off perhaps, but it would have been harsh.

[zoso]

Dec 31, 2016 16:30:51 GMT 1 jb1 said:

I thought the ref was very good today. Quite few times when he let play go and then pulled it back when no advantage emerged. He could have sent Whitehead off perhaps, but it would have been harsh.

Agree. I'd have booked their goalie for time wasting though, he was just talking the Micky!

[Htfc65]

Dec 31, 2016 16:30:51 GMT 1 jb1 said:

I thought the ref was very good today. Quite few times when he let play go and then pulled it back when no advantage emerged. He could have sent Whitehead off perhaps, but it would have been harsh.

You are having a laugh, he was yet again a very poor referee. He missed a push on loewe for their goal and gave everything when they threw themselves to ground.

[Deleted]

Refs had a mare in the Man Utd game. Disallowed a goal for high foot when he was nowhere near the keeper. Talk about over protection

[cojones]

Dec 31, 2016 16:46:49 GMT 1 Htfc65 said:

Dec 31, 2016 16:30:51 GMT 1 jb1 said:

I thought the ref was very good today. Quite few times when he let play go and then pulled it back when no advantage emerged. He could have sent Whitehead off perhaps, but it would have been harsh.

You are having a laugh, he was yet again a very poor referee. He missed a push on loewe for their goal and gave everything when they threw themselves to ground.

Sorry mate, but today's ref was as good as we've had all season.

[Deleted]

Dec 31, 2016 16:30:51 GMT 1 jb1 said:

I thought the ref was very good today. Quite few times when he let play go and then pulled it back when no advantage emerged. He could have sent Whitehead off perhaps, but it would have been harsh.

You mean once, once that happened. 70 minutes of allowing them to time waste, without even the faintest hint of a card. Nah, he were gash on the whole.

[Deleted]

Dec 31, 2016 17:27:05 GMT 1 fnd said:

Dec 31, 2016 16:30:51 GMT 1 jb1 said:

I thought the ref was very good today. Quite few times when he let play go and then pulled it back when no advantage emerged. He could have sent Whitehead off perhaps, but it would have been harsh.

You mean once, once that happened. 70 minutes of allowing them to time waste, without even the faintest hint of a card. Nah, he were gash on the whole.

Atleast the muppet added on 5 minutes. Made up for the 1 minute in the first half after RVLP had been down for atleast 2 and their keeper had taken the piss for the whole half with his goal kicks

[Baby Ate My Eight Ball]

Just looked at the sky highlights and can't believe the ref doesn't blow for the foul by Gallagher on Loewe for their goal. He was looking right at it as Loewe was pushed to the floor by two hands in the back at full stretch.

[Deleted]

Dec 31, 2016 18:48:48 GMT 1 Baby Ate My Eight Ball said:

Just looked at the sky highlights and can't believe the ref doesn't blow for the foul by Gallagher on Loewe for their goal. He was looking right at it as Loewe was pushed to the floor by two hands in the back at full stretch.

I didn't really notice it at the time, but on the replay it is blatant.

[Htfc65]

Dec 31, 2016 17:23:44 GMT 1 cojones said:

Dec 31, 2016 16:46:49 GMT 1 Htfc65 said:

You are having a laugh, he was yet again a very poor referee. He missed a push on loewe for their goal and gave everything when they threw themselves to ground.

Sorry mate, but today's ref was as good as we've had all season.

Yes you're right they've all been shite and of the same standard.

[Bassingham Terrier]

Dec 31, 2016 17:35:56 GMT 1 @pointykay said:

Dec 31, 2016 17:27:05 GMT 1 fnd said:

You mean once, once that happened. 70 minutes of allowing them to time waste, without even the faintest hint of a card. Nah, he were gash on the whole.

Atleast the muppet added on 5 minutes. Made up for the 1 minute in the first half after RVLP had been down for atleast 2 and their keeper had taken the piss for the whole half with his goal kicks

RVLP down for a couple of minutes and also they had a player needed treatment for the best part of three minutes.
And as for the keeper ...

I couldn't believe it when only 1 minute went up.

As an aside, Coyle was furious down in front of us when the 5 sign went up on 90 minutes and admitted it in later interviews.
He couldn't see where on earth the ref found five minutes.
Really, Owen?

[Porrohman]

Anyone watched Niall Quinn and Alan Smith laying into Mike Dean at H/T ? Aren't Sky's pundits supposed to sit on the fence (although Kammys giving it to him on twitter too)

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[kennyk2]

Jan 2, 2017 19:21:50 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Anyone watched Niall Quinn and Alan Smith laying into Mike Dean at H/T ? Aren't Sky's pundits supposed to sit on the fence (although Kammys giving it to him on twitter too)

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If you were being sensible - a yellow. But, both feet off the ground, so strictly a red.

[Porrohman]

Jan 2, 2017 19:23:16 GMT 1 kennyk2 said:

Jan 2, 2017 19:21:50 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Anyone watched Niall Quinn and Alan Smith laying into Mike Dean at H/T ? Aren't Sky's pundits supposed to sit on the fence (although Kammys giving it to him on twitter too)

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If you were being sensible - a yellow. But, both feet off the ground, so strictly a red.

So were Jones's, how he managed so many rolls when badly injured was a miracle in itself. And Kouyate's just done a worse tackle and he only gave a free kick

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[Porrohman]

Jan 2, 2017 19:23:16 GMT 1 kennyk2 said:

Jan 2, 2017 19:21:50 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Anyone watched Niall Quinn and Alan Smith laying into Mike Dean at H/T ? Aren't Sky's pundits supposed to sit on the fence (although Kammys giving it to him on twitter too)

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If you were being sensible - a yellow. But, both feet off the ground, so strictly a red.

FWIW I thought he'd go as soon as the tackle happened with Dean in charge. I was surprised he didn't have the card out immediately. I was more commenting on the pundits, when was the last time anyone was so forthright on Sky ?

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[kennyk2]

Jan 2, 2017 19:32:25 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Jan 2, 2017 19:23:16 GMT 1 kennyk2 said:

If you were being sensible - a yellow. But, both feet off the ground, so strictly a red.

FWIW I thought he'd go as soon as the tackle happened with Dean in charge. I was surprised he didn't have the card out immediately. I was more commenting on the pundits, when was the last time anyone was so forthright on Sky ?

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Very hard to be objective when you are a biased, rubbish pundit employed by Sky, who are very good at employing biased rubbish pundits. Thumbs up to Gary Neville though who is a better pundit than manager.

[Deleted]

Ref today got most of the 50/50s wrong. Had no 'big' decisions to make otherwise really.

But we've had some luck this time with refs, because Billing should have been off for those two rash challenges. Very very lucky there.

[ilsonterrier]

Dec 18, 2016 23:33:22 GMT 1 terrier25 said:

Dec 18, 2016 23:01:13 GMT 1 araucaria said:

Tim Robinson, our ref for the 1-1 home draw with Charlton two seasons ago, up to his old tricks. First he disallows a perfectly good goal for Rotherham and then he gives Wednesday a 93rd minute penalty and sends the Rotherham player off when there appears to be no contact. I recall being apoplectic at the end of that Charlton game when Ben Haim pushed Vaughan in the chest with both hands and Robinson said no penalty. Then Charlton went up the other end for a 92nd minute equaliser. Wallace's red card was rescinded and it will be interesting to see if Rotherham appeal against the sending off.

Forget the two stonewallers we were denied against Wigan, that one referred to above in that Charlton game was the single worst refereeing decision I have witnessed in my 34 years watching football. I haven't been as angry after a game as I was that day, that c*nt cost us two points at a time when three would have given us great momentum under Mark Lillis.
It was worse that the Reading cup tie, Robinson had been involved in a 'few words' with Vaughan minutes before that incident and his denial of the penalty was undoubtedly his way of getting back at Vaughan, which is so unprofessional and he should be removed from refereeing for LIFE for that decision - it was BIAS and not incompetence.

Tim Robinson has pulled another blinder this week - booking a Luton player for punching the ground in agony whilst he was being treated for what turned out to be a broken leg! What a prat!

[Deleted]

I think this needs bumping back to the top of the board. Two games he's handed to Wednesday this season

[impact]

3 wrong decisions aganist us today. Anyone fancy doing a for/against decisions tally?

If it really does even itself out over a season, we're in for some huge wins.