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Oct 17, 2016 6:44:06 GMT 1
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Post by unbeatenfor10years on Oct 17, 2016 6:44:06 GMT 1
Can't believe the ref didn't realise who we are and this was our biggest crowd ever.
Disgraceful not to let us win, and ruined my weekend. He should have allowed us to keep taking corners until we scored.
Thank god we are still unbeaten this millennium.
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 17, 2016 7:05:11 GMT 1
Can't believe the ref didn't realise who we are and this was our biggest crowd ever. Disgraceful not to let us win, and ruined my weekend. He should have allowed us to keep taking corners until we scored. Thank god we are still unbeaten this millennium. Ah! Welcome to another of our Wednesday friends. So excited the morning after that you just couldn't sleep and created an account at 06.30 in the morning! But back to referees. If anyone has the inclination the following by Garciano et al 2001 is worth skimming. I noticed the bit regarding injury time and the fact that referees award much more injury time if the home team is behind. Sort of fits in with the, How much injury time?" claim. linkHere's another, but I'll have to try and get my thinking cap on so I'll have a look at this later - Are football referees really biased and inconsistent? Evidence on the incidence of disciplinary sanction in the English Premier League linkAnd here's another, Evidence for referree bias in football link
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Post by unbeatenfor10years on Oct 17, 2016 7:41:24 GMT 1
Is anybody else up for starting an online petition to the result overturned and the referee banned ?
I've already written a strongly worded letter to the FA voicing my disgust at our defeat.
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 17, 2016 7:48:09 GMT 1
Is anybody else up for starting an online petition to the result overturned and the referee banned ? I've already written a strongly worded letter to the FA voicing my disgust at our defeat. Where's an admin when you need one? |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 17, 2016 15:30:18 GMT 1
Is anybody else up for starting an online petition to the result overturned and the referee banned ? I've already written a strongly worded letter to the FA voicing my disgust at our defeat. Where's an admin when you need one? Aww bless, leave him alone, he's nowt better to do. His girlfriend got a puncture and his mum refused to finish him off. Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards |
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 17, 2016 15:31:54 GMT 1
Where's an admin when you need one? Aww bless, leave him alone, he's nowt better to do. His girlfriend got a puncture and his mum refused to finish him off. Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards I don't think he's old enough to have a proper girlfriend yet. |
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Post by ram on Oct 18, 2016 10:40:32 GMT 1
As I said on another thread.I wouldn,t pay the incompetent clowns in washers.
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Post by detox on Oct 18, 2016 11:25:43 GMT 1
2 images below. 1st shows how short the distance was, the 2nd shows where it actually hit VLP. His arms are up, yes, but it hits him in front of his chest. I don't understand how this can be called deliberate handball. I certainly don't understand how a linesman who couldn't spot blatant offsides all afternoon could see through 2 bodies for it either.   Can a player no longer protect his face from point blank bullet shots to the face?? What strikes me about that top picture is we have 7 players encircling that lad and he still got his shot away. We'd 11 men in our box to their 5...most of them marking fresh air. |
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Post by detox on Oct 18, 2016 12:57:31 GMT 1
Considering Town have committed the least number of fouls of the top 8 (134), why do we have the highest number of yellow cards (28) ? Does this mean we're being victimised or we only foul when we really have to ?
By comparison Wednesday have committed more fouls (140) but only have half the number of yellows (14).. smacks of favouritism, as we have witnessed on Sunday...
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Post by aksaiblue on Oct 18, 2016 14:40:24 GMT 1
Considering Town have committed the least number of fouls of the top 8 (134), why do we have the highest number of yellow cards (28) ? Does this mean we're being victimised or we only foul when we really have to ? By comparison Wednesday have committed more fouls (140) but only have half the number of yellows (14).. smacks of favouritism, as we have witnessed on Sunday... Bang on summary especially considering last Sunday's match - Kachungas booking epitomises your point |
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Post by stevvy on Oct 18, 2016 15:19:39 GMT 1
We've had a fair few for dissent though
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Post by detox on Oct 18, 2016 15:38:58 GMT 1
We've had a fair few for dissent though No we ****ing haven't !! |
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Referees
Oct 19, 2016 21:22:55 GMT 1
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Post by morleyterrier on Oct 19, 2016 21:22:55 GMT 1
Unlike the Wednesday match and Reading away.
Atleast the Ref hasn't influenced the match outcome tonight.
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Post by HalifaxTerrier on Oct 19, 2016 23:31:54 GMT 1
What was with that offside he gave and then let them take the free kick 10 yards in our half? You can't be offside in your own half can you?
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Post by huddshroom on Oct 19, 2016 23:38:19 GMT 1
What was with that offside he gave and then let them take the free kick 10 yards in our half? You can't be offside in your own half can you? Ref make mistakes but that was a joke. One of the worst decisions I think I've seen. It's common knowledge. Yes Kachunga was offside, fare enough. But letting them take the freekick in out half. The mind boggles |
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Post by Floyds on Oct 19, 2016 23:40:17 GMT 1
He looked about 10 yards inside our half as well when he took it. Terrible decision to allow them to play on.
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Post by Werlinger on Oct 20, 2016 0:12:46 GMT 1
It's was actually the correct decision. They changed the rules this year. You take the free kick from where the player receives the ball.
So if you're coming back from an offside position, the free kick is taken from where the offside player first touches it.
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Post by TerrierMulac on Oct 20, 2016 7:20:37 GMT 1
What was with that offside he gave and then let them take the free kick 10 yards in our half? You can't be offside in your own half can you? He was correct in this situation, the new rule is that the free kick gets given where he touches the ball so in this case 10 yards in our half |
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Post by Sir Richard of the Green on Oct 20, 2016 8:00:20 GMT 1
So why does the linesman still stand in line and point across pitch to where the free kick is to be taken
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Post by Sir Richard of the Green on Oct 20, 2016 8:07:07 GMT 1
What was with that offside he gave and then let them take the free kick 10 yards in our half? You can't be offside in your own half can you? He was correct in this situation, the new rule is that the free kick gets given where he touches the ball so in this case 10 yards in our half Absolute tripe. The free kick is from where the player was deemed to be offside when the bill was passed |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Oct 20, 2016 8:09:21 GMT 1
We only get shit refs.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 20, 2016 8:19:46 GMT 1
He was correct in this situation, the new rule is that the free kick gets given where he touches the ball so in this case 10 yards in our half Absolute tripe. The free kick is from where the player was deemed to be offside when the bill was passed Sorry, but you are 100% wrong on this. The rule is that if the Lino flags for offside the defending team can either take the kick from where the player was offside or wherever he touched the ball, meaning that he CAN concede the free-kick in his own half. Get used to it - like it or not, it's correct. FA website linkI refer you to FAQ Q3 which reads ... Q3: The Law now says that the IDFK for offside can be taken in the player’s own half but how can this be correct?
It is correct because:a player CAN NOT be in an offside POSITION in their own half a player CAN commit an offside OFFENCE in their own half if they go back into their own half from an offside position Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside.aspx#t15W2jv8CvxI4IUe.99 |
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Post by terrierstalk on Oct 20, 2016 8:54:36 GMT 1
So technically, an unrealistic situation, but technically if Kachunga had sprinted from that offside position all way into our 18 yard box to pick the ball up, what would happen then? It's an absolutely ridiculous rule to make, why change something that isn't broken?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2016 9:36:25 GMT 1
So technically, an unrealistic situation, but technically if Kachunga had sprinted from that offside position all way into our 18 yard box to pick the ball up, what would happen then? It's an absolutely ridiculous rule to make, why change something that isn't broken? In that as you admit 'unrealistic situation' i would expect an indirect free kick in our 18 yard box.  |
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Post by terrierstalk on Oct 20, 2016 9:39:40 GMT 1
So technically, an unrealistic situation, but technically if Kachunga had sprinted from that offside position all way into our 18 yard box to pick the ball up, what would happen then? It's an absolutely ridiculous rule to make, why change something that isn't broken? In that as you admit 'unrealistic situation' i would expect an indirect free kick in our 18 yard box. How ridiculous is that? haha what a shocking rule change |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Oct 20, 2016 9:45:40 GMT 1
It seems a very strange rule change, but I guess the law makers need something to fill their time now they don't have to continually check there bank account balances to see if their latest bung has been safely deposited.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 20, 2016 10:12:40 GMT 1
Unlike the Wednesday match and Reading away. Atleast the Ref hasn't influenced the match outcome tonight. You on a WUM his ineptness and cheating set the tone from the off, it was the worst 45mins ive seen from a ref ever - free kick for offside taken in our half ? freekicks given against Town for fook all, despite the set piece defending the ref did have an inluence |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 20, 2016 10:14:59 GMT 1
Absolute tripe. The free kick is from where the player was deemed to be offside when the bill was passed Sorry, but you are 100% wrong on this. The rule is that if the Lino flags for offside the defending team can either take the kick from where the player was offside or wherever he touched the ball, meaning that he CAN concede the free-kick in his own half. Get used to it - like it or not, it's correct. FA website linkI refer you to FAQ Q3 which reads ... Q3: The Law now says that the IDFK for offside can be taken in the player’s own half but how can this be correct?
It is correct because:a player CAN NOT be in an offside POSITION in their own half a player CAN commit an offside OFFENCE in their own half if they go back into their own half from an offside position Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside.aspx#t15W2jv8CvxI4IUe.99But he wasn't offside in the first place ? first time ive seen or heard of this NEW rule |
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 20, 2016 13:09:33 GMT 1
Sorry, but you are 100% wrong on this. The rule is that if the Lino flags for offside the defending team can either take the kick from where the player was offside or wherever he touched the ball, meaning that he CAN concede the free-kick in his own half. Get used to it - like it or not, it's correct. FA website linkI refer you to FAQ Q3 which reads ... Q3: The Law now says that the IDFK for offside can be taken in the player’s own half but how can this be correct?
It is correct because:a player CAN NOT be in an offside POSITION in their own half a player CAN commit an offside OFFENCE in their own half if they go back into their own half from an offside position Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside.aspx#t15W2jv8CvxI4IUe.99Thanks for bringing this to my attention MT the change has completely passed me by (& judging by the reaction in the away end I'm far from alone in that regard). To be slightly pedantic re your explanation, the player doesn't need to touch the ball just to attempt to or interfere with an opponent. Plus there appears to be no either / or, the kick is taken where the offence occurs (which is no longer considered to be where he was stood in an offside position). An earlier poster (on this thread) is right the linesman was confusing in that he took up a position about 10 yards inside their half. Surely that position is no longer relevant at all? One query, if an opponent plays the ball does the potential for the first offence disappear? Having learnt this, I'd really like to see the incident again. As my memory differs from the outcome. Was Kachunga really the first to touch it (I thought not)? & did he attempt to play the ball that far forward? Even becoming aware of the change I still think they took the free kick forward of the "offence". |
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Post by Terriersmad on Oct 20, 2016 16:47:50 GMT 1
Absolute tripe. The free kick is from where the player was deemed to be offside when the bill was passed Sorry, but you are 100% wrong on this. The rule is that if the Lino flags for offside the defending team can either take the kick from where the player was offside or wherever he touched the ball, meaning that he CAN concede the free-kick in his own half. Get used to it - like it or not, it's correct. FA website linkI refer you to FAQ Q3 which reads ... Q3: The Law now says that the IDFK for offside can be taken in the player’s own half but how can this be correct?
It is correct because:a player CAN NOT be in an offside POSITION in their own half a player CAN commit an offside OFFENCE in their own half if they go back into their own half from an offside position Read more at www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/laws/football-11-11/law-11---offside.aspx#t15W2jv8CvxI4IUe.99But the offence takes place when the ball is played. No sooner, no later. Whichever fool thought up this change has clearly not thought it through. |
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