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Post by SN0W on Jan 14, 2017 18:21:37 GMT 1
yes, but will you still feel like this when you get home? (or maybe not, the video clip didn't work  ) It was Barnstoneworth Utd wasn't it? it was.... when he comes home and wrecks the house. Sums up how most of us feel when we lose (damn you passion) |
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Post by htfc123 on Jan 14, 2017 18:24:03 GMT 1
We need to beat Ipswich next week and if we do, could the success of our season depend on our following 2 league games?
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Post by Macduff on Jan 14, 2017 18:24:45 GMT 1
We would all have taken our current position at the start of the season, I think it's just that we hate losing against certain teams more than others, but like your mum said when you scraped your knee as a nipper, you just have to try and behave like a big boy about it.
I'm sure the club are doing what they can re a centre forward, I'm just enjoying the ride.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:26:37 GMT 1
<xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">This forum never fails to be as irritating as a bad result.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Don't think people are too wrong to be complaining about the lack of a striker, considering we've been missing one now for over a season.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Edit - While I was typing this 2 chances fell to 2 defenders.</xmlns:texthelpns><xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1"> This is our problem.</xmlns:texthelpns><xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1"> There's a reason why we haven't scored more than 2 goals in a league game this season.</xmlns:texthelpns> You're right, it is over a season, literally. The club have done a hell of a lot of things right, but this is the one thing that they deserve to be pulled up on. Its just a massive shame and its very, very frustrating. Its almost as if some people can't contemplate the idea that the club might have fucked up over this. And just for the record, before I get stick for moaning - its not just because we've lost. Even when we've won (by the odd goal), theres been times where we could have really done with fresh legs up front. |
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Post by someguy on Jan 14, 2017 18:26:51 GMT 1
Also I'm sure everyone is happy this is the level of argument we have after a loss as opposed to when we will be safe.
Mind you add another 2 losses on the bounce and this place would implode.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 14, 2017 18:27:34 GMT 1
This forum never fails to be as irritating as a bad result. Don't think people are too wrong to be complaining about the lack of a striker, considering we've been missing one now for over a season. Edit - While I was typing this 2 chances fell to 2 defenders. This is our problem. There's a reason why we haven't scored more than 2 goals in a league game this season. It's the tone and embarrassing simplification. Subtleties are lost on here. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 14, 2017 18:28:10 GMT 1
It did work against Villa away and Blackburn at home! So what, it's skool boy for a side with chance of playoffs. The plan is to win the direct balls with headers either at goal (like we use centre halves at corners) or knock down to those following in behind. Don't have a problem with it myself. Derby should have tried it last night cos putting another striker on made no difference did it? |
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Post by hypotenuse on Jan 14, 2017 18:28:13 GMT 1
Just about to set off back.
Cannot believe we lost that. Wednesday were woeful and barely made a chance.
No need for dejection - but definite need for a striker who can offer a bit more.
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Post by E4b on Jan 14, 2017 18:28:49 GMT 1
At least we don't have to worry bout relegation this year, that's a nice change.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 14, 2017 18:32:38 GMT 1
does beg the question why dont we start with the schoolboy stuff, best chances of the game?? long periods of possession going nowhere, all kicked into touch by one long range shot as we backed off.. we are making the scoring of goals and of making chances too hard.. we might have seen out 2/3 one goal wins with some style but we have never looked like winning a game by a few... we go behind, we lose.. its a very hard style and approach we have to games..probably in the end going to be too hard for the squad we have.. Newcastle struggling badly today,one run by a striker and a shot, one run and a cross into the box for a big centre forward, they win the game.. not lots of passes, not lots of possession.. . ...just their £12m strike partnership to fall back on. Fulham loanee scores winner..?? if we want to mix it with the big boys, there might be a price to pay.. I think its too far into the season to look to next year, we have half a team who probably wont be here in August.. Be honest, hudson and hef again up front after 3/4 of a game producing not much in attack??? its bordering on silly.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:33:21 GMT 1
<xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Reading this thread you'd forget:</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Palmer,rvlp and Hogg all not playing.</xmlns:texthelpns><xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1"> Arguably our most important players in various positions.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">You'd also forget if Wednesday go for a player there's no chance we'll match those wages.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">You'd also forget Wednesday are a quality side at home.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">And we are a man down</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">The expectations of some that we should be winning every single match is ridiculous.</xmlns:texthelpns> Look - I don't think anyone is expecting us to win every game (today was a really tough fixture). But the fact we sounded to have played so well and deserved something, despite 10 men, and despite having to throw 2 centre halves up front - that sort of leaves you feeling frustrated at not even having someone as average as a Lee Novak on the bench for example. Especially when; A) Both centre halves, fluff chances to equalise in the last few mins. B) We've been crying out for another option up front at the very least since the summer. People have EVERY RIGHT to feel very frustrated about this. |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Jan 14, 2017 18:37:16 GMT 1
This is the best opportunity in 44 years the Marcus Stewart sale aside that we have had to get back among the Elite. Its a moment of time that we need to seize not throw away so what we arent at the bottom of the table what as that got to do with pour present situation dont look backwards look forwards and on to 3 points against Ipswich
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Post by hasta el pueblo on Jan 14, 2017 18:37:29 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:37:37 GMT 1
I did wonder that. I listened to last few mins on Radio Leeds, and they said within seconds of the goal going in that Wells had been fouled....then they seemed to forget saying this and spent the next ten minutes "wondering" what Wagner had seen on the replay and why he was ranting to the 4th official....oh what kind of a mystery could this be. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 14, 2017 18:41:40 GMT 1
<xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Don't think people are too wrong to be complaining about the lack of a striker, considering we've been missing one now for over a season.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Edit - While I was typing this 2 chances fell to 2 defenders.</xmlns:texthelpns><xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1"> This is our problem.</xmlns:texthelpns><xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1"> There's a reason why we haven't scored more than 2 goals in a league game this season.</xmlns:texthelpns> You're right, it is over a season, literally. The club have done a hell of a lot of things right, but this is the one thing that they deserve to be pulled up on. Its just a massive shame and its very, very frustrating. Its almost as if some people can't contemplate the idea that the club might have fucked up over this. And just for the record, before I get stick for moaning - its not just because we've lost. Even when we've won (by the odd goal), theres been times where we could have really done with fresh legs up front. The club haven't fucked up though have they. They put a plan in place last season to change the way approach we had to games and the way we play. They spent the money they could afford on players that they had scouted and could afford and we now have a squad which has taken us from potential relegation every season to play-off contenders in half a season. I'm well happy at that and think that the future is bright. But now we get people like you that get greedy/impatient about lack of strikers. Maybe our choice in summer was palmer, schindler and Mooy OR a striker? |
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Post by someguy on Jan 14, 2017 18:42:58 GMT 1
<xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Reading this thread you'd forget:</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Palmer,rvlp and Hogg all not playing.</xmlns:texthelpns><xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1"> Arguably our most important players in various positions.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">You'd also forget if Wednesday go for a player there's no chance we'll match those wages.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">You'd also forget Wednesday are a quality side at home.</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">And we are a man down</xmlns:texthelpns> <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">The expectations of some that we should be winning every single match is ridiculous.</xmlns:texthelpns> Look - I don't think anyone is expecting us to win every game (today was a really tough fixture). But the fact we sounded to have played so well and deserved something, despite 10 men, and despite having to throw 2 centre halves up front - that sort of leaves you feeling frustrated at not even having someone as average as a Lee Novak on the bench for example. Especially when; A) Both centre halves, fluff chances to equalise in the last few mins. B) We've been crying out for another option up front at the very least since the summer. People have EVERY RIGHT to feel very frustrated about this. As a side note, whats with this odd extra formatting that appears evrry so often, everyone using the same app? Anyway I completely understand frustration. Indignation that we lost a game is what I have issues with, it's getting worse than Newcastle fans at times on here. I'm not sure why Wagner decides it's the best thing to do (id argue would those chances have come if they weren't up there), When he did it at home on the christmas period they didn't add anything at all. It may be a nudge nuudge to dean, or it might be that even if we signed a striker we'd do that if we needed something. I'm confused by the 'embarrassment' though. I'd be embarrassed if my team was played off the park for (usually at least) half the match by a team who put two defenders up front. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:43:02 GMT 1
So what, it's skool boy for a side with chance of playoffs. The plan is to win the direct balls with headers either at goal (like we use centre halves at corners) or knock down to those following in behind. Don't have a problem with it myself. Derby should have tried it last night cos putting another striker on made no difference did it? Which would be fine...but Hef and Hud are rubbish in the air, and the player following in behind has been sent off. Think if we are relying on this schoolboy tactic we'd be better off sending Smith up top, he can play football, has the strength and doesn't go to pot in the box. |
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Post by KiwiPom on Jan 14, 2017 18:44:09 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town Danny Ward - A virtual spectator in the opening 45 minutes, but could do little to stop Ross Wallace’s goal.7/10 Tommy Smith - Excellent going forward and rarely seems to have a bad game. 7/10 Chris Schindler - Had a quiet game for the visitors, who faded in the second half. 6/10 Michael Hefele - Saw his header drift wide from corner on 17 minutes, then fired wide in last few minutes. 7/10 Chris Lowe - Was unlucky to see his free-kick tipped wide by Westwood just before half-time. Brilliant late tackle to deny Winnall. 8/10 Aaron Mooy - Assured in heart of Town’s defence. Unlucky to finish on losing side. 7/10 Philip Billing - Composed on the ball, but sacrificed when Town went behind, going off after an hour. 6/10 Elias Kachunga - Rarely threatened to break the deadlock. Will have better days than this. 6/10 Jack Payne - Deservedly sent off with 20 minutes remaining for a poor tackle on Sam Hutchinson. 5/10 Isaiah Brown - Former Rotherham United midfielder has settled in well at Huddersfield, and looks part of the furniture at Town. 6/10 Nahki Wells - Missed an early header in front of Kop. And will probably go away frustrated at not making more of an impact. 6/10 Substitutes Dean Whitehead (for Billing, 61): Had little impact on the game, and sacrificed for Mark Hudson as Town pushed for a late equaliser. 5/10 Mark Hudson (for Whitehead, 86): The defender came on as a late striker, and had a clear chance, but blasted over the crossbar. 5/10 Joe Lolley (for Brown, 61 mins): Struggled to get into the game as a second-half suibstitute. 6/10 Read more at: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/sheffield-wednesday-v-huddersfield-town-hillsborough-player-ratings-from-the-yorkshire-derby-1-8334957Glad now I slept in and didn't get up at 4 am (Local) to listn. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jan 14, 2017 18:44:13 GMT 1
said before.. the elephant in the room is we are in the play offs.. pretending that we dont care if we fall away or looking back at horrible seasons or decades of shite sometimes, isnt the way forward..
'if someone had given us this before the start'?? daft comment... they didnt, we are here, like it or not.
If we let it 'meander' to a 10th position or below was that 'good enough'..?
If we have that attitude, it matters not who owns the club or manages the team and our new 'ethos', we will never get above this point..
Im annoyed we lost today because we had more of the game and restricted them to almost zilch, but we cant score and we defended poorly once and got dicked for it...
They didnt have a game plan to be outplayed, have much less possession and have less attempts, we played the game, our game and lost..
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Post by mightytj on Jan 14, 2017 18:45:54 GMT 1
At least we don't have to worry bout relegation this year, that's a nice change. I think you will be getting your wish next week - your love child will be back |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:46:04 GMT 1
For almost the first time, what Wagner is saying about strikers and defenders in this interview makes NO sense. How bizarre.
He seems to be saying we don't need another striker because our two defenders had goal scoring chances (that they didn't score from)?
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 14, 2017 18:47:37 GMT 1
Just heard Wagner to Oggy re the striker position. Spot on. We are competing above our comfort level by making the best of our resources. Now everyone criticises the club for not having more resources.
However, I am sure behind the scenes, if the right type of player becomes available that we can afford he will arrive before February
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 14, 2017 18:47:54 GMT 1
Just heard Wagner to Oggy re the striker position. Spot on. We are competing above our comfort level by making the best of our resources. Now everyone criticises the club for not having more resources.
However, I am sure behind the scenes, if the right type of player becomes available that we can afford he will arrive before February
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jan 14, 2017 18:49:37 GMT 1
For almost the first time, what Wagner is saying about strikers and defenders in this interview makes NO sense. How bizarre. He seems to be saying we don't need another striker because our two defenders had goal scoring chances (that they didn't score from)? Talking rubbish. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jan 14, 2017 18:49:47 GMT 1
For almost the first time, what Wagner is saying about strikers and defenders in this interview makes NO sense. How bizarre. He seems to be saying we don't need another striker because our two defenders had goal scoring chances (that they didn't score from)? Talking rubbish. |
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Post by wtd on Jan 14, 2017 18:50:48 GMT 1
The irony /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:51:25 GMT 1
You're right, it is over a season, literally. The club have done a hell of a lot of things right, but this is the one thing that they deserve to be pulled up on. Its just a massive shame and its very, very frustrating. Its almost as if some people can't contemplate the idea that the club might have fucked up over this. And just for the record, before I get stick for moaning - its not just because we've lost. Even when we've won (by the odd goal), theres been times where we could have really done with fresh legs up front. The club haven't fucked up though have they. They put a plan in place last season to change the way approach we had to games and the way we play. They spent the money they could afford on players that they had scouted and could afford and we now have a squad which has taken us from potential relegation every season to play-off contenders in half a season. I'm well happy at that and think that the future is bright. But now we get people like you that get greedy/impatient about lack of strikers. Maybe our choice in summer was palmer, schindler and Mooy OR a striker? What a ridiculous speech. A) yes, on this issue they have fucked up, quite clearly. B) what has the "plan in place" got to do with anything!? C) Greedy? Am I being greedy suggesting that Hudson is inadequate as a striker? Am I? Has Hudson ever done anything when he's gone up front? D) Clearly we can afford another striker. Don't be so naive. |
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Post by explorer on Jan 14, 2017 18:56:41 GMT 1
...just their £12m strike partnership to fall back on. Fulham loanee scores winner..?? if we want to mix it with the big boys, there might be a price to pay.. I think its too far into the season to look to next year, we have half a team who probably wont be here in August.. Be honest, hudson and hef again up front after 3/4 of a game producing not much in attack??? its bordering on silly.. Fulham loanee .. if you are talking about Chris Martin (he didn't score the winner today btw as it ended 2-0) do you really think we have 2.5 mill plus wages to spare for a loan player of that level?? The only loan players we are likely to get ( without going for a Kachunga-type loan now, buy later deal) are ones not wanted by their club, rather than the proven goal scorer we obviously need at the moment. I agree that putting Hudson upfront is far from ideal, but we are where we are. No amount of throwing our DATM teddy out of the pram is going to change that. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jan 14, 2017 19:02:41 GMT 1
Fulham loanee scores winner..?? if we want to mix it with the big boys, there might be a price to pay.. I think its too far into the season to look to next year, we have half a team who probably wont be here in August.. Be honest, hudson and hef again up front after 3/4 of a game producing not much in attack??? its bordering on silly.. Fulham loanee .. if you are talking about Chris Martin (he didn't score the winner today btw as it ended 2-0) Hate to tell you this but the first goal in a 2-0 win is the winner btw |
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Post by El Mel on Jan 14, 2017 19:04:17 GMT 1
Look boys and girls.
You need effective strikers to win games, regardless of whether they come from the academy, Bradford, Brentford or Mars.
We don't have enough of them.
It's not Deans fault they cost a lot of money, and are hard to come by, it's the same for every other football club.
If we can't address the problem, then we need to look at why we can't address the problem, not just the problem itself.
You either spend the money on buying the player, or you spend the money on finding the player.
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