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Post by araucaria on Jan 15, 2017 15:36:32 GMT 1
Going on that logic you could become perhaps a Bradford fan next season maybe if they play decent football and the prices are lower then at yours ? Rent a fan ....not bad idea for clubs that ! Our model is more fan friendly and yes I'd rather support a team like Bradford than one like yours where the owners take advantage of fan loyalty to rip em off, - but we also play better football than you.  Wednesday haven't played any football since they had Di Canio, Carbone and Andy Booth. Discuss. |
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Post by swfchamish on Jan 15, 2017 15:52:13 GMT 1
When you see what Wednesday fans are paying to watch their team, compared to what we're paying to watch Town, I know who I'd rather support and it isn't Wednesday. Going on that logic you could become perhaps a Bradford fan next season maybe if they play decent football and the prices are lower then at yours ? Rent a fan ....not bad idea for clubs that ! We've got 20,000 season ticket holders. The value of each game for those is more like £20 - £25 per match which is fantastic. For the several thousand walk up fans and away fans it is poor value and expensive I agree. However, there are also multiple games throughout the season where tickets are cheaper and in line with most at this level. Added to the fact that individuals with club memberships get a discount of £5-10 on match day tickets. So in reality it isn't anywhere near as bad as many on here presume. However, I am in complete agreement that away tickets are a shocking price and would be absolutely in favour of price caps like are in the prem. |
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Post by ACW on Jan 15, 2017 15:58:40 GMT 1
Not surprised you lot play at the John Smiths stadium! So bitter! In four games since Wagner and carvalhal have gone against each other Wednesday have scored 7! You lot 1! Wednesday have won all four games yet you still go on about better football, better tactics and bad referees! Could you lot get any more embarrassing on here!? Good manager, great chairman, totally deluded fans! We are still above you in the league despite giving you 6 points this season. Perhaps you should save your arrogant statements until the end of the season. Oh, and by the way, Blackburn have done the double over Newcastle, does that make them a better team? In reality Town and Wednesday are teams of a similar standard at the moment irrespective of the results when we've played each other. The league table proves that. We play different styles but both are proving good enough to get in the play offs at this point. Let's just leave it at that. |
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Post by athelwulf on Jan 15, 2017 17:20:30 GMT 1
Our model is more fan friendly and yes I'd rather support a team like Bradford than one like yours where the owners take advantage of fan loyalty to rip em off, - but we also play better football than you. Wednesday haven't played any football since they had Di Canio, Carbone and Andy Booth. Discuss. Well, Wednesday played good football last season under Carvalhal, but that doesn't matter much to me. As a rule of thumb, the more money you have, the better the brand of football you can play and be successful with it. Any team can knock the ball around...but will it be winning football? Carvalhal would get Newcastle promoted whilst entertaining at the same time. But Newcastle have got better players than us, and parachute money to boot. Carlos is attempting to play a more "pragmatic" brand of football this time, but it doesn't suit him. His natural instincts are to go on all out attack, and he's on record as saying that he'd rather win a game 10-9 than 1-0. What's all the more ironic is that he was a defender. Wednesday are on the limit of what a club can spend which doesn't have parachute money. For me, the way out of this league is what Middlesbrough did. First, a team needs to be rock-solid in defence. Keeping the ball out of the net is a lot easier (and cheaper) than scoring goals at the other end. Then you need someone at the other end who gets goals. What happens in between doesn't really matter. You've also got to have a physical presence, because this is English football, after all. Of the Yorkshire teams, Leeds fit this model most closely, and it's the reason why I doubt Carlos will get us up. |
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Post by araucaria on Jan 15, 2017 17:38:40 GMT 1
athelwulf is probably right about the way most teams get out of this division, the pragmatic way. Isn't that a shame? Give me the occasional Fulham 2000-01 or Bournemouth 2014-15 any time. You know, teams worth watching. Teams neutrals can remember 16 years later. And I didn't pick 2000-01 because it's the last time I can remember any football from Wednesday.
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Post by swfchamish on Jan 15, 2017 17:49:03 GMT 1
athelwulf is probably right about the way most teams get out of this division, the pragmatic way. Isn't that a shame? Give me the occasional Fulham 2000-01 or Bournemouth 2014-15 any time. You know, teams worth watching. Teams neutrals can remember 16 years later. And I didn't pick 2000-01 because it's the last time I can remember any football from Wednesday. Definitely in the last 2 seasons the leagues taken a different form. Teams at the top are built on strong defences and grinding out results. That includes the likes of Middlesbrough, Burnley and Hull. Who all scored 60 to 70. In comparison to the teams that went up the year before them, Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich who all scored between 90 and 100 goals. It's a stylistic change it seems. We played better football last season, but this season we've conceded less and gained more points. We've also scored less. None of the play off teams have scored many goals. None of them have particularly impressed me (including ourselves). It's mainly because it's rare that someone puts someone completely to bed at this level now. You don't even see many 3-0 results nevermind the 4,5,6,7's and even 8's that Bournemouth were capable of. It probably reflects the fact everyone is talking about this as the 'strongest Championship ever'. |
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Post by space hardware on Jan 15, 2017 20:33:05 GMT 1
athelwulf is probably right about the way most teams get out of this division, the pragmatic way. Isn't that a shame? Give me the occasional Fulham 2000-01 or Bournemouth 2014-15 any time. You know, teams worth watching. Teams neutrals can remember 16 years later. And I didn't pick 2000-01 because it's the last time I can remember any football from Wednesday. Definitely in the last 2 seasons the leagues taken a different form. Teams at the top are built on strong defences and grinding out results. That includes the likes of Middlesbrough, Burnley and Hull. Who all scored 60 to 70. In comparison to the teams that went up the year before them, Bournemouth, Watford and Norwich who all scored between 90 and 100 goals. It's a stylistic change it seems. We played better football last season, but this season we've conceded less and gained more points. We've also scored less. None of the play off teams have scored many goals. None of them have particularly impressed me (including ourselves). It's mainly because it's rare that someone puts someone completely to bed at this level now. You don't even see many 3-0 results nevermind the 4,5,6,7's and even 8's that Bournemouth were capable of. It probably reflects the fact everyone is talking about this as the 'strongest Championship ever'. Totally agree on Hull and Middlesbrough. Horrible, grinding but effective football got them both up. |
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