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Post by townrwe on Jul 4, 2017 21:04:11 GMT 1
Magic in his boots this kid.... Brilliant signing.
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Post by bedders on Jul 4, 2017 21:16:02 GMT 1
It's like waiting for a bus.... none for ages, then 3 at once!. Three good players in my opinion who will add a bit of everything. Williams defence and bite in midfield,Palmer will add creativity and a few goals maybe and Ince will create chances and score a few as well. What a time to be a Town fan!. UTT
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Post by tufty on Jul 4, 2017 21:18:16 GMT 1
It's our Wedding anniversary today and we've just got Ince and Palmer in. Slap up meal with our two kids tonight. Been a good day and it'll probably get better! Happy anniversary Epsom. Here, have a Danny Williams for dessert! |
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Post by jt on Jul 4, 2017 21:42:02 GMT 1
One of the put downs when we went up was that we were a team full of loans ... it has some substance until we signed Mooy .., and kachunga ...and now have Palmer back as well! Throw in ince, depoitre, lossl and the others strongly linked... just wow, literally we are building the strongest town side/squad in generations here! no way ..the best town squad was Lee Clarke's when we went on that superb 43 game unbeaten run . |
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Post by Giggity on Jul 4, 2017 21:45:33 GMT 1
Biggest task now is keeping him fit. If he stays fit then I can see us surviving.
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Post by nicovaesen on Jul 4, 2017 22:14:53 GMT 1
Biggest task now is keeping him fit. If he stays fit then I can see us surviving. I can see us winning it |
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Post by mids on Jul 4, 2017 22:17:47 GMT 1
One of the put downs when we went up was that we were a team full of loans ... it has some substance until we signed Mooy .., and kachunga ...and now have Palmer back as well! Throw in ince, depoitre, lossl and the others strongly linked... just wow, literally we are building the strongest town side/squad in generations here! no way ..the best town squad was Lee Clarke's when we went on that superb 43 game unbeaten run . No it wasn't. They were good but not a patch on this lot...with more to come yet too |
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Post by jt on Jul 4, 2017 22:20:25 GMT 1
no way ..the best town squad was Lee Clarke's when we went on that superb 43 game unbeaten run . No it wasn't. They were good but not a patch on this lot...with more to come yet too you don't say .😂 |
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Post by ACW on Jul 4, 2017 22:40:12 GMT 1
One of the put downs when we went up was that we were a team full of loans ... it has some substance until we signed Mooy .., and kachunga ...and now have Palmer back as well! Throw in ince, depoitre, lossl and the others strongly linked... just wow, literally we are building the strongest town side/squad in generations here! no way ..the best town squad was Lee Clarke's when we went on that superb 43 game unbeaten run . I hope you are joking... |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 4, 2017 23:51:03 GMT 1
Oh what a time to be alive! KP & Ince are gonna light up the premier league, watch this space!
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 5, 2017 0:08:11 GMT 1
Maybe it was the lighting for that interview, but did anyone think that Palmer looked a bit yellow?
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Post by isleofmanterrier on Jul 5, 2017 0:57:35 GMT 1
no way ..the best town squad was Lee Clarke's when we went on that superb 43 game unbeaten run . No it wasn't. They were good but not a patch on this lot...with more to come yet too But neither of those sides compare to the boys that got us out of league 2 and got us breathing back up the leagues again. |
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Post by StamfordTerrier on Sept 5, 2017 21:17:24 GMT 1
Scored for the U21s tonight. Far more entertaining to watch this group than the Seniors
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 12:12:40 GMT 1
Scored for the U21s tonight. Far more entertaining to watch this group than the Seniors So the question is....what goes wrong?! The u21s always seem entertaining, and in a fashion that seems to bring in results. If they qualify and get beyond the groups they seem to get to the last 4. Similarly the u20s won the World Cup this summer (although that seems to have been a positive blip rather than a regular occurrence). There's something missing in the transition maybe? Picking a random good u21 year, they were losing finalists in 2009...most of the starting XI (barring the keeper, and, erm Martin Crainie! (Who knew?!), went on to be established Premier League players, and 4 or 5 of them have been regular England players. But what happened. How do you go from being at the top of the world in your age group at 21 to it being a dream 3 or 4 years later? Is this evidence that Premier League football stunts development?? (To be honest before I looked I'd expected the u21 team to be full of players who went on to do nothing, but it seems that's not the case, and they did play at the top level, so it's not as though they were being held back by "cheaper foreigners"). Do the foreign nationals who play in England's top flight subsequently reduce in performance on the international stage? Very difficult to tell...but I do wonder if there's something about our league, and it's physical and mental pressure and money that takes more out of a player than for example, playing in France or Spain would do. No idea.. Just random thoughts. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 6, 2017 12:44:44 GMT 1
Why not just start a new thread for your interesting and topical comment rather than tag it onto the end of this old stale one?
Admins - Do we really have to have things arranged like in a fooking library?!?!?
Its a forum not a frigging dictionary!!!!
This should be a new thread, sick of reading though 100 page long, old, outdated irrelevant threads just to get to a topical post. Its silly. This should be a new thread titled something like "Kasey Scored for England", its got feck all to do with the other ancient thread.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 6, 2017 12:48:05 GMT 1
Imagine the under 21 side that played last night against malta. They'd tear them a new one.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 6, 2017 12:49:13 GMT 1
Scored for the U21s tonight. Far more entertaining to watch this group than the Seniors So the question is....what goes wrong?! The u21s always seem entertaining, and in a fashion that seems to bring in results. If they qualify and get beyond the groups they seem to get to the last 4. Similarly the u20s won the World Cup this summer (although that seems to have been a positive blip rather than a regular occurrence). There's something missing in the transition maybe? Picking a random good u21 year, they were losing finalists in 2009...most of the starting XI (barring the keeper, and, erm Martin Crainie! (Who knew?!), went on to be established Premier League players, and 4 or 5 of them have been regular England players. But what happened. How do you go from being at the top of the world in your age group at 21 to it being a dream 3 or 4 years later? Is this evidence that Premier League football stunts development?? (To be honest before I looked I'd expected the u21 team to be full of players who went on to do nothing, but it seems that's not the case, and they did play at the top level, so it's not as though they were being held back by "cheaper foreigners"). Do the foreign nationals who play in England's top flight subsequently reduce in performance on the international stage? Very difficult to tell...but I do wonder if there's something about our league, and it's physical and mental pressure and money that takes more out of a player than for example, playing in France or Spain would do. No idea.. Just random thoughts. That's a new question I think. Its only recently that our youth teams have started to do really well at the international level. If they are good enough they will come through. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 12:49:29 GMT 1
Why not just start a new thread for your interesting and topical comment rather than tag it onto the end of this old stale one? Admins - Do we really have to have things arranged like in a fooking library?!?!? Its a forum not a frigging dictionary!!!! This should be a new thread, sick of reading though 100 page long, old, outdated irrelevant threads just to get to a topical post. Its silly. This should be a new thread titled something like "Kasey Scored for England", its got feck all to do with the other ancient thread. Why can't you just go to the end of the thread? Is it that 'fooking' difficult? |
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Post by mids on Sept 6, 2017 12:52:17 GMT 1
Why not just start a new thread for your interesting and topical comment rather than tag it onto the end of this old stale one? Admins - Do we really have to have things arranged like in a fooking library?!?!? Its a forum not a frigging dictionary!!!! This should be a new thread, sick of reading though 100 page long, old, outdated irrelevant threads just to get to a topical post. Its silly. This should be a new thread titled something like "Kasey Scored for England", its got feck all to do with the other ancient thread. Kasey Palmer scoring for England shouldn't belong in a thread titled "Kasey Palmer - Confirmed"??  It's tagged to the end of it and I found it to read without having to wade through the previous pages of forum discussion. Perhaps you're being a tad touchy. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 6, 2017 12:54:51 GMT 1
If you click new it brings you to the latest comment in the thread, do you click on all 14 pages before you reach the latest post?
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Post by upthetown on Sept 6, 2017 13:18:49 GMT 1
If you click new it brings you to the latest comment in the thread, do you click on all 14 pages before you reach the latest post? I shall reply when I've re-read the other 14 pages to get to your post |
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Post by royrace on Sept 6, 2017 13:28:10 GMT 1
If you click new it brings you to the latest comment in the thread, do you click on all 14 pages before you reach the latest post? Yes I know how to use a forum thanks. Why is this tagged on the end of a two month old thread discussing Kaseys transfer??? What purpose does doing that possibly serve? Gets on my tits and it's not how forums generally operate. Lunatics on here have taken over the asylum it seems. Maybe it's an OCD thing. See post below re the 'new' button. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by royrace on Sept 6, 2017 13:35:30 GMT 1
Why not just start a new thread for your interesting and topical comment rather than tag it onto the end of this old stale one? Admins - Do we really have to have things arranged like in a fooking library?!?!? Its a forum not a frigging dictionary!!!! This should be a new thread, sick of reading though 100 page long, old, outdated irrelevant threads just to get to a topical post. Its silly. This should be a new thread titled something like "Kasey Scored for England", its got feck all to do with the other ancient thread. Why can't you just go to the end of the thread? Is it that 'fooking' difficult? Not difficult no but not as easy as reading it as a nice new, topical thread. What if I hadn't read all of the posts on the thread before the new one was posted? The new button doesn't help me then does it, I end up somewhere back in time reading some irrelevant, post. So then I have to look at the last page by clicking again and then work back to the relevant point by checking the dates on each post. Are you with me now??? Let me know if you need further clarification. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by TTCMatt on Sept 6, 2017 13:39:00 GMT 1
So the question is....what goes wrong?! The u21s always seem entertaining, and in a fashion that seems to bring in results. If they qualify and get beyond the groups they seem to get to the last 4. Similarly the u20s won the World Cup this summer (although that seems to have been a positive blip rather than a regular occurrence). There's something missing in the transition maybe? Picking a random good u21 year, they were losing finalists in 2009...most of the starting XI (barring the keeper, and, erm Martin Crainie! (Who knew?!), went on to be established Premier League players, and 4 or 5 of them have been regular England players. But what happened. How do you go from being at the top of the world in your age group at 21 to it being a dream 3 or 4 years later? Is this evidence that Premier League football stunts development?? (To be honest before I looked I'd expected the u21 team to be full of players who went on to do nothing, but it seems that's not the case, and they did play at the top level, so it's not as though they were being held back by "cheaper foreigners"). Do the foreign nationals who play in England's top flight subsequently reduce in performance on the international stage? Very difficult to tell...but I do wonder if there's something about our league, and it's physical and mental pressure and money that takes more out of a player than for example, playing in France or Spain would do. No idea.. Just random thoughts. That's a new question I think. Its only recently that our youth teams have started to do really well at the international level. If they are good enough they will come through. We've been doing quite well at 15-18 for quite a while, it seems to be when they hit the key development stage of 18-21 ours stall because of lack of gametime (and previously Stuart Pearce). Usually they trot out the statistic at every u21 Euro tournament that the England team has the least amount of competitive minutes between them in the tournament. That and if any young lad does well he gets promoted to the first team never to return back. Whereas Germany and Spain tend to dip players in and out of 21 and full squads and will always pick the strongest squad possible even if their best u21 players are ordinarily in the full squad. |
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Post by terrier13 on Sept 6, 2017 13:54:37 GMT 1
Scored for the U21s tonight. Far more entertaining to watch this group than the Seniors So the question is....what goes wrong?! The u21s always seem entertaining, and in a fashion that seems to bring in results. If they qualify and get beyond the groups they seem to get to the last 4. Similarly the u20s won the World Cup this summer (although that seems to have been a positive blip rather than a regular occurrence). There's something missing in the transition maybe? Picking a random good u21 year, they were losing finalists in 2009...most of the starting XI (barring the keeper, and, erm Martin Crainie! (Who knew?!), went on to be established Premier League players, and 4 or 5 of them have been regular England players. But what happened. How do you go from being at the top of the world in your age group at 21 to it being a dream 3 or 4 years later? Is this evidence that Premier League football stunts development?? (To be honest before I looked I'd expected the u21 team to be full of players who went on to do nothing, but it seems that's not the case, and they did play at the top level, so it's not as though they were being held back by "cheaper foreigners"). Do the foreign nationals who play in England's top flight subsequently reduce in performance on the international stage? Very difficult to tell...but I do wonder if there's something about our league, and it's physical and mental pressure and money that takes more out of a player than for example, playing in France or Spain would do. No idea.. Just random thoughts. Pressure? A lack of cohesion with the fan base? Our fine country's over stimluated sense of self? I'm 26 years old which means the entire time that I've been alive our national team have underachieved (or, more accurately, achieved exactly what we were capable of which seemed to be much less because of the expectation on the team). Because of this, I have to almost force myself to enjoy international football in our country. I have much more passion and care for my club side than I do England and I always will (even when we ourselves were shite) and until we can do something to make the English support fall in love with the international game again it's going to be hard work. The fact is that nobody really cares about the U21 and the U20 teams, so these young lads get to express themselves as they want without any worry. Then, when they come to the senior side they're suddenly faced with the absolute bile that is the British media and English supporter base. The other night we beat Malta in a comfortable 4-0 win. Any fan of their club side would have been delighted with the result, focussed on the positives (bar a few moaning forum posters  ) and started looking forward to the next game in a few days. With England, we woke up the next day to reports of how it isn't quite good enough and our manager was facing questions about what he thought went 'wrong' - what went wrong in a 4-0 win?!. Then we wonder why the plays may look like they're not as passionate about playing for England. What sort of environment is that for them to come out and play at their best? The support at Wembley was shocking on Monday (and by the way, maybe our ground is too big for us) and even when we showed our quality when a team finally comes out and plays against us, a 2-1 win against a group rival still isn't good enough. If anything at Town we've seen over the last year how much the relationship between the fans and a team can make a huge difference and even promote overachievement. That is simply never going to happen with the senior national side when the support carries with it such delusions of grandeur. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 14:05:31 GMT 1
^^good post, and is where I am with more than 20 years on you...so this is deeply engrained in society!
The media angle shouldn't be ignored.
I'm sure when I've been on holidays in France and Italy, the footballing stories are on the back page, their national teams are followed by sports journalists, whereas in this country there's also the "news"/"entertainment" angle.
I'm not sure if a Swedish player who plays in Sweden getting done for drink driving during an international break would get national newspaper and TV coverage and be the topic of conversation for 4 or 5 days on rolling sports and regular news stations?
Our club has come from a different background to that weird bubble that the Premier League seems to be. The morning of the play off final in Cardiff, I walked to buy a paper and found Peter Jackson and Terry Yorath walking back the other way.
Has anyone ever just bumped into Jose Mourinho out shopping ??!
Our promotion to the Premier League was celebrated with the players going out in Huddersfield and getting rat arsed with the fans. Leicester won the Premier League and they all got a new car.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 6, 2017 14:11:08 GMT 1
If you click new it brings you to the latest comment in the thread, do you click on all 14 pages before you reach the latest post? Yes I know how to use a forum thanks. Why is this tagged on the end of a two month old thread discussing Kaseys transfer??? What purpose does doing that possibly serve? Gets on my tits and it's not how forums generally operate. Lunatics on here have taken over the asylum it seems. Maybe it's an OCD thing. See post below re the 'new' button. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Completely agree, its wrecked the flow of the board and is not how any other forum I've ever looked at works. |
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Post by rubicon on Sept 6, 2017 14:27:09 GMT 1
Completely agree, threads go on for bloody ever and have nothing to do with the original post. Unfortunately there'd be no need for this conversation at all, if new threads just didn't upset certain members on here, often to the point of getting members banned.
I have no idea why, but can easily see why it puts some off posting, and many off joining. Personally I'd have put it under a new thread title of "England Under 21s" but I can guarantee someone would have still spotted the connection and demanded to know why it wasn't in the right thread.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 6, 2017 14:52:03 GMT 1
That's a new question I think. Its only recently that our youth teams have started to do really well at the international level. If they are good enough they will come through. We've been doing quite well at 15-18 for quite a while, it seems to be when they hit the key development stage of 18-21 ours stall because of lack of gametime (and previously Stuart Pearce). Usually they trot out the statistic at every u21 Euro tournament that the England team has the least amount of competitive minutes between them in the tournament. That and if any young lad does well he gets promoted to the first team never to return back. Whereas Germany and Spain tend to dip players in and out of 21 and full squads and will always pick the strongest squad possible even if their best u21 players are ordinarily in the full squad. Our u17's to 21's have certainly shone in the last year. |
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Post by TTCMatt on Sept 6, 2017 14:59:25 GMT 1
We've been doing quite well at 15-18 for quite a while, it seems to be when they hit the key development stage of 18-21 ours stall because of lack of gametime (and previously Stuart Pearce). Usually they trot out the statistic at every u21 Euro tournament that the England team has the least amount of competitive minutes between them in the tournament. That and if any young lad does well he gets promoted to the first team never to return back. Whereas Germany and Spain tend to dip players in and out of 21 and full squads and will always pick the strongest squad possible even if their best u21 players are ordinarily in the full squad. Our u17's to 21's have certainly shone in the last year. They have indeed. Well... Up to u20's. Our u21's got to the semi's on the back of some quite underwhelming performances, but a semi final is still a fair achievement. |
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