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Post by hasta el pueblo on Dec 2, 2017 15:02:43 GMT 1
On the bench today.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 15:30:29 GMT 1
I thought if a player got injured on England duty they gave you compo ? They might have given us Compo but he couldn’t get in the team ahead of Ince. Disappointed not to see Clegg on the pitch though, I imagine him as a more refined version of Hogg. Foggy at the back alongside Schindler obviously. |
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Post by rubicon on Dec 4, 2017 16:12:28 GMT 1
This threads dropped like a stone since the Everton game. Seems he wasn't quite the magic missing ingredient everyone expected?
And before anyone says it, I like the lad, and do believe he'll play an important part yet this season. Just it seems last Saturday wasn't it.
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Post by terrierfortythree on Dec 4, 2017 16:16:17 GMT 1
This threads dropped like a stone since the Everton game. Seems he wasn't quite the magic missing ingredient everyone expected? And before anyone says it, I like the lad, and do believe he'll play an important part yet this season. Just it seems last Saturday wasn't it. Last Saturday as in his first 45 minutes at first team level since August? |
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Post by drumriggend on Dec 4, 2017 16:29:57 GMT 1
I thought if a player got injured on England duty they gave you compo ? They might have given us Compo but he couldn’t get in the team ahead of Ince. Disappointed not to see Clegg on the pitch though, I imagine him as a more refined version of Hogg. Foggy at the back alongside Schindler obviously. Rather have batty than compo to be honest.. David not norah😉 |
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Post by hudmat on Dec 4, 2017 16:42:32 GMT 1
This threads dropped like a stone since the Everton game. Seems he wasn't quite the magic missing ingredient everyone expected? And before anyone says it, I like the lad, and do believe he'll play an important part yet this season. Just it seems last Saturday wasn't it. He played a really nice flicked first time pass into smith in behind on the wing. Something with a little invention that no other player in our team seems to have. He will be a massive influence this season. |
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Post by explorer on Dec 4, 2017 18:22:25 GMT 1
If Tom Ince had looked up instead of blasting his shot into the side netting, he would have seen Kasey stood completely unmarked on the edge of the box and this would most likely be a totally different thread!
PS - I'm not blaming Incey as he was the only Town player willing to have a crack at goal. Unfortunately, this was the one time a pass would have been the smarter option.😊
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Post by ozterrier on Dec 27, 2017 17:52:46 GMT 1
So, does anyone have the inside track on Kasey Palmer? I saw someone wrote in another thread that he and DW have had a falling out, but I must have missed something somewhere as I'd not seen anything discussed.
Anyone know what's happening?
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Post by hasta el pueblo on Dec 27, 2017 18:24:48 GMT 1
So, does anyone have the inside track on Kasey Palmer? I saw someone wrote in another thread that he and DW have had a falling out, but I must have missed something somewhere as I'd not seen anything discussed. Anyone know what's happening? All I know is that he's said on Twitter that he's fit and healthy and hasn't missed a training session since coming back from Chelsea, DW says that KP isn't in the best of form at the moment. |
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Post by The-Crab on Dec 27, 2017 18:29:49 GMT 1
Usually silence is the biggest sign of being more to it, he was v keen to bring him here and he was well in front of Lolly before the injury. Seems strange he can't make the bench and every thing has gone quiet, sure all will come out eventually.
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Post by vin on Dec 27, 2017 18:48:11 GMT 1
So, does anyone have the inside track on Kasey Palmer? I saw someone wrote in another thread that he and DW have had a falling out, but I must have missed something somewhere as I'd not seen anything discussed. Anyone know what's happening? I know somebody who probably knows but he probably can't be arsed telling us. |
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Post by htfc1984 on Dec 27, 2017 18:51:21 GMT 1
Really sad how it's going with kasey. No doubt about his talent. He seemed to genuinely love town when asked about returning. Is it a fitness thing? Attitude? Who knows. Either way it's a sad possible ending
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Dec 27, 2017 19:00:03 GMT 1
Made even odder that he'd always seemed to have had a faultless attitude up to now. Is there a possibility that he'll return to Chelsea in Jan?
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Post by boxster2700 on Dec 27, 2017 19:07:27 GMT 1
Got himself injured playing for england when told not to play, then so I've heard not a regular at training ,probably back to chelsea in jan.
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Post by Mastercracker on Dec 27, 2017 19:16:12 GMT 1
Think it’s nailed on he’ll return to Chelsea in jan.
Some stats on Palmer in 2017 - 235 minutes played, spread over 7 games and hasn’t finished 90 minutes once. As much as I love him, that’s no good from our marque loan signing.
I’d wager he thinks he’s fully fit but his version of fully fit and wagners are two very different things. He was so far off the pace at Everton that he looked completely unuseable.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 27, 2017 19:21:18 GMT 1
I love KP, if he can overcome this run of injuries I'm sure he can have a really good career at Championship level and above. However, he has been no use to us this season so i think he'll have to go back, as we need a no 10 now. Great potential, undoubtedly, but we want to stay up this season and need a full squad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 19:23:34 GMT 1
Think it’s nailed on he’ll return to Chelsea in jan. Some stats on Palmer in 2017 - 235 minutes played, spread over 7 games and hasn’t finished 90 minutes once. As much as I love him, that’s no good from our marque loan signing. I’d wager he thinks he’s fully fit but his version of fully fit and wagners are two very different things. He was so far off the pace at Everton that he looked completely unuseable. Agreed on the Everton performance, it was like playing with 10 men and almost George Weah's cousin territory at times. If somebody like Van La Parra or Mounie had performed like he did that day, they would have been absolutely crucified for months. |
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Post by El Mel on Dec 27, 2017 19:42:49 GMT 1
So, does anyone have the inside track on Kasey Palmer? I saw someone wrote in another thread that he and DW have had a falling out, but I must have missed something somewhere as I'd not seen anything discussed. Anyone know what's happening? I know somebody who probably knows but he probably can't be arsed telling us. I've got a mate who knows someone who's mates with someone, and he said he was going back, plus, Chelsea aren't going to let him stay here, when he isn't kicking a ball, despite claims that he's fit to play, are they. Adios Kasey, and thank you for you're contribution in our promotion season. |
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Post by ACW on Dec 27, 2017 21:09:35 GMT 1
I really want to see Palmer fit and playing well for Town. We need him. That said, we're now halfway through the season and he's hardly featured. I suppose we are now at a stage, with the transfer window about to open, we have to decide whether to hope he returns to fitness/form, or whether to cut our losses. I suppose alot will depend on whether we can replace him with similar/better quality in the transfer window.
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Post by Spezial on Dec 27, 2017 21:16:55 GMT 1
As good as he is on his day, hes hardly played.
Up to now, we have done extremely well without him,so letting him go back and getting a player in who is fully fit wouldn't be the worst decision.
To me and probably to our team, would we miss him, no I honestly don't think we would this season.
Does not mean I'm not grateful to his contribution last season. The lad needs to go have a full season, not just a here and there part, then take it from there. My thought would be a strong championship team.
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Post by turbo2 on Dec 27, 2017 21:27:43 GMT 1
Would be a massive shame as when fit he’s s great player who I’m sure would perform well.
But there’s no room for sentiment at this level and we need someone in who is available every week.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 27, 2017 21:28:51 GMT 1
Again all this talk of " sending him back " . Maybe someone at the club has confirmed that's in the contract ?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 21:39:03 GMT 1
Again all this talk of " sending him back " . Maybe someone at the club has confirmed that's in the contract ? Think it's more that both clubs could mutually agree to cancel the loan, if it suits both parties, which I believe they can do during a transfer window. I can't see us ruining our relationship with Chelsea by simply 'sending him back' |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 27, 2017 21:48:10 GMT 1
Again all this talk of " sending him back " . Maybe someone at the club has confirmed that's in the contract ? Think it's more that both clubs could mutually agree to cancel the loan, if it suits both parties, which I believe they can do during a transfer window. I can't see us ruining our relationship with Chelsea by simply 'sending him back' You think or you know ? Is it written anywhere or have you heard it from someone who is close to the club? Not saying you aren't right but often folk just presume things. My incliniation would be to think if we have loaned someone for a season there is a season long financial obligation related to this arrangement. Again I might be wrong but that's how I imagine it would work . There may be something which says all parties review in January . But I haven't heard or seen it |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Dec 27, 2017 21:58:20 GMT 1
Think it's more that both clubs could mutually agree to cancel the loan, if it suits both parties, which I believe they can do during a transfer window. I can't see us ruining our relationship with Chelsea by simply 'sending him back' You think or you know ? Is it written anywhere or have you heard it from someone who is close to the club? Not saying you aren't right but often folk just presume things. My incliniation would be to think if we have loaned someone for a season there is a season long financial obligation related to this arrangement. Again I might be wrong but that's how I imagine it would work . There may be something which says all parties review in January . But I haven't heard or seen it What name is N7t using on here these day's? He's usually the one that likes reading up on relevant rules and regulations  As for loans being curtailed, it's how we got Izzy last Jan if you remember. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 22:10:44 GMT 1
Think it's more that both clubs could mutually agree to cancel the loan, if it suits both parties, which I believe they can do during a transfer window. I can't see us ruining our relationship with Chelsea by simply 'sending him back' You think or you know ? Is it written anywhere or have you heard it from someone who is close to the club? Not saying you aren't right but often folk just presume things. My incliniation would be to think if we have loaned someone for a season there is a season long financial obligation related to this arrangement. Again I might be wrong but that's how I imagine it would work . There may be something which says all parties review in January . But I haven't heard or seen it Sorry, I mean I read it in the rules. 53.1.2 any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window; 53.1.3 any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between the Transferor Club, the Transferee Club and the Player but can only be completed: (a) after the expiry of 28 days; and (b) only during a Transfer Window (but subject to Regulation 53.1.4 below) unless otherwise agreed by the League in its absolute discretion (subject to such conditions as the League deems appropriate); |
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Post by Spezial on Dec 27, 2017 22:20:42 GMT 1
You think or you know ? Is it written anywhere or have you heard it from someone who is close to the club? Not saying you aren't right but often folk just presume things. My incliniation would be to think if we have loaned someone for a season there is a season long financial obligation related to this arrangement. Again I might be wrong but that's how I imagine it would work . There may be something which says all parties review in January . But I haven't heard or seen it Sorry, I mean I read it in the rules. 53.1.2 any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window; 53.1.3 any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between the Transferor Club, the Transferee Club and the Player but can only be completed: (a) after the expiry of 28 days; and (b) only during a Transfer Window (but subject to Regulation 53.1.4 below) unless otherwise agreed by the League in its absolute discretion (subject to such conditions as the League deems appropriate); [br That'll shut Captain Argument up for a bit |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 27, 2017 22:32:39 GMT 1
You think or you know ? Is it written anywhere or have you heard it from someone who is close to the club? Not saying you aren't right but often folk just presume things. My incliniation would be to think if we have loaned someone for a season there is a season long financial obligation related to this arrangement. Again I might be wrong but that's how I imagine it would work . There may be something which says all parties review in January . But I haven't heard or seen it What name is N7t using on here these day's? He's usually the one that likes reading up on relevant rules and regulations As for loans being curtailed, it's how we got Izzy last Jan if you remember. Yeah but was it a season long loan ? I take the point though that it’s not in chelsea’s interest for Kasey to be sat in the stands every week |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Dec 27, 2017 22:33:21 GMT 1
Sorry, I mean I read it in the rules. 53.1.2 any recall clause requiring the early termination of a Standard Loan can only be included in a full Season Standard Loan and this can only be activated during the second (January) Transfer Window; 53.1.3 any other early termination of a Standard Loan must be by way of a mutual agreement in writing (including by way of a recall clause within the Standard Loan Agreement) between the Transferor Club, the Transferee Club and the Player but can only be completed: (a) after the expiry of 28 days; and (b) only during a Transfer Window (but subject to Regulation 53.1.4 below) unless otherwise agreed by the League in its absolute discretion (subject to such conditions as the League deems appropriate); [br That'll shut Captain Argument up for a bit Stupid boy |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2017 22:35:53 GMT 1
So, does anyone have the inside track on Kasey Palmer? I saw someone wrote in another thread that he and DW have had a falling out, but I must have missed something somewhere as I'd not seen anything discussed. Anyone know what's happening?
Is it the same scenario as DW had with Nahki Wells, And Klopp had with Sturridge ?
Bit soft and not really that injured, And the affected muscle tissue will ultimately be stronger if you play on and put up with the niggle ?
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