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Post by upthetown on May 21, 2018 8:37:54 GMT 1
To be fair to Chadders51, he's been ok with all of his posts on here and couldn't be considered one of the 'shit' fans. Not every fan can be tarred with the same brush as there are fans at extreme ends of the spectrum at every club. Yes I know but back in 2001 when we drew 0-0 with stoke I was walking to the ground with some chips in my hands and a bloke in his 40 Burberry up knocked them out my hands 😡😡😡😡 Until I know who he was I will tarnish all stoke fans the same, shit fans, shit club 😂😂😂😂😂 I was enjoying them chips It was Chippers51 |
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Post by chadders51 on May 21, 2018 22:19:06 GMT 1
Gary Rowett it is then
Would have preferred Wagner but I think he’ll do ok
Back soon I hope
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Post by yappledapple on May 22, 2018 16:48:12 GMT 1
Looks like Swansea are going to try something a little different. Fair play to them for having the stones to try...
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Post by ozterrier on May 22, 2018 17:47:48 GMT 1
Looks like Swansea are going to try something a little different. Fair play to them for having the stones to try... Stoke (ie The Potters) should have gone for him, and it'd be a nice bit of nominative determinism! |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 23, 2018 7:45:38 GMT 1
Simon Jordan made some very good points on Rowett this morning on talksport
Clearly not a fan
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 23, 2018 7:51:35 GMT 1
Simon Jordan made some very good points on Rowett this morning on talksport Clearly not a fan And simon Jordan has managed football clubs , won promotions , improved every side’s position Hes managed ? |
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 23, 2018 9:14:44 GMT 1
Rowett's going to have far more money from parachute payments at Stoke than he would be given at Derby if he'd stayed, both are rebuilding jobs to some extent so for an ambitious manager looking to get a team into the prem it's a bit of a no brainer.
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Post by chadders51 on Jul 19, 2018 18:10:03 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers
According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million
Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!!
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 19, 2018 18:12:27 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! You will get all manner of responses. For me a great player who didn’t hit the heights of expectation. I don’t particularly want him to go but if he does whoever takes him has a real player. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 19, 2018 18:12:27 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! He's been a bit of a disappointment if we're honest, good player, the talent is there but rarely seen by us. Always tries hard but only 2 goals last season. I wouldn't be selling him if I were us unless we've got someone lined up to replace him. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 19, 2018 18:12:43 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! Sobhi is a bit of an unknown or certainly unproven quantity whereas all Ince’s form is in the book . Consistently bosses it in the championship I think he would be a great signing for you at the price whilst at the same time being a good deal for us |
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Post by Malvern Tom (WAHLS) on Jul 19, 2018 18:21:35 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! He was deffo part of our journey last season. He is a top end championship player. He is an adequate premiership player. He gave us, in my opinion, 60% of the excitement of last season with his goal against Watford. We will always remember him for that. Good luck to him if he goes. |
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Post by upthetown on Jul 19, 2018 18:23:24 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! I’d keep him personally. I’m sure he will be excellent next season and rip the championship up if you do sign him. |
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Post by chadders51 on Jul 19, 2018 18:24:49 GMT 1
We really wanted Matt Ritchie but Newcastle are playing hard ball
Not sure if our interest in Ince is maybe to focus the minds at the Toon
Have to wait and see
Good luck for the season
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 19, 2018 18:25:58 GMT 1
Good luck Chadders for the season, You seem a club like us.
Ince just didn't score for us.
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Post by andyeastleake on Jul 19, 2018 18:28:45 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! Hi Chads I like Tom Ince, before he signed for us had fears he'd be lazy & go missing (like Forest (and to a lesser extent) Derby fans suggest) but couldn't fault him in that area at all. Disappointed he's rarely played in what seems his best position (right midfield) and amazed that for spells Quaner was ahead of him in that role. His confidence seems to have been affected (but I was hoping he'd turn it around) but TBH even though I like him I have to accept for the money he's been a bit of a disappointment. I hope he doesn't leave but can sort of see why we're interested at £10m. I don't really see why you should be worried, in the Championship he'll be a great player for you, the only question mark is at the highest level. |
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 19, 2018 18:30:33 GMT 1
The very definition of a confidence player, decent ability and effort but it never got going for him with us for whatever reason and he became less impactful. As others have said a very good championship player who has still to prove he can step up.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2018 18:32:57 GMT 1
We really wanted Matt Ritchie but Newcastle are playing hard ball Not sure if our interest in Ince is maybe to focus the minds at the Toon Have to wait and see Good luck for the season What does “playing hardball” mean, holding out for what they think is an appropriate fee? For sure Matt Ritchie has a higher market value than Tom Ince, due to being a better player and having a longer current contract. I reckon reality is Tom Ince is pretty much an £8m player but not for sale less than £10m simply because of nature of what we’ve got tied in him. Similarly Ritchie is probably a £10m-£12m player but by virtue of his contract would take £14m to buy him and make it worthwhile for them to bother. |
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Post by bluestripe on Jul 19, 2018 18:48:38 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! Unfortunately for you, Stoke will also inherit a third of e4stevie as a fan. Another third is with Cardiff (Danny Ward, don't ask). The final third remains here waiting to irrationally latch on to another reasonably good player, and turn them into some sort of footballing deity who can do no wrong and exceeds the abilities of Ronaldo and Messi combined. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 19, 2018 19:03:39 GMT 1
We really wanted Matt Ritchie but Newcastle are playing hard ball Not sure if our interest in Ince is maybe to focus the minds at the Toon Have to wait and see Good luck for the season He is a different player from Ritchie who has the brains but not quite the pace for the Premier League anyway. Inch has much better legs than Ritchie and usually puts in a great shift. The problem for us is that he has had 40+ attempts on goal but only scored a couple. He gets into some great positions but has just not been able to convert and no one has quite been able to put their finger on why. As we got him for £7 million plus ad ons, and he's not really been productive enough, it would be a great deal to get £10 million for him, and reinvest in someone who might be more productive. |
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Post by Lightcliffe Terrier on Jul 19, 2018 19:03:51 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! Can’t comment on Sobhi as don’t really know what he’s like. Ince will always put a shift in. There’s a stat where he’s only scored 2 in 70 attempts, but at least he’s been getting in the positions in the first place. I think with a little more luck he’d have really kicked on. Not one I’m happy to see go but he’ll be a VERY good championship player and wish him all the best. Good luck for the season mate |
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Post by htfc1908 on Jul 19, 2018 19:08:30 GMT 1
Tom Ince was the player I was most looking forward to seeing in a Town shirt out of the new signings we had last summer, you can't fault his attitude or workrate both of which were questioned when he joined but for whatever reason it just didn't happen for him.
I hope we get someone in to replace him before finalising the deal as he's far better than any of the current options we have.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 19, 2018 19:11:15 GMT 1
Good evening Terriers According to reports we are taking Tom Ince off you for £10million Always liked him but that fee seems a bit steep. Is he twice as good as Sobhi or are you taking us for a ride with this one !!! Excellent Championship player, below average PL player. £10mil is about right given his record in the Champ. |
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Post by alexdire on Jul 19, 2018 19:20:27 GMT 1
The very definition of a confidence player, decent ability and effort but it never got going for him with us for whatever season and he became less impactful. As others have said a very good championship player who has still to prove he can step up. His touch just seemed to be a touch to heavy in the Premier League. He was always chasing after the ball, from his first touch, and trying to nick it before the defender. In the Championship it won't be that much of an issue. Although if the choice was Ince or Traore, I'd keep Ince. |
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Post by crux on Jul 19, 2018 20:11:11 GMT 1
The very definition of a confidence player, decent ability and effort but it never got going for him with us for whatever season and he became less impactful. As others have said a very good championship player who has still to prove he can step up. His touch just seemed to be a touch to heavy in the Premier League. He was always chasing after the ball, from his first touch, and trying to nick it before the defender. In the Championship it won't be that much of an issue.
Although if the choice was Ince or Traore, I'd keep Ince.Assuming you mean the Traore from Middlesbrough then I'd take him for his pace alone. Ince is a much harder worker than I had him down as, but he isn't quick, is too lightweight and gets knocked off the ball too easily. I do think if he'd scored a couple of goals early on he would have gone on to have had a more productive season. However if he can be replaced by blistering pace, which Traore has, then do so. All defenses drop back a little if they know there's a speed merchant on the opposition, which then gives everybody a little more/Mooy room to play. |
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Jul 19, 2018 20:42:01 GMT 1
If we'd been relegated, he's the one player I'd have wanted to keep. I really like the guy, he comes across as an intelligent, thoughtful chap in interviews. He's a top class Championship player but whether it was confidence or something else, he just wasn't as good as I thought he'd be in the Premier League.
That said, the one issue I had with Wagner last season was that he never played Ince in his best position which probably accounted for a lot. I wish him the best if he leaves us. |
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Post by ponteterrier on Jul 19, 2018 20:44:57 GMT 1
I like Ince, he's a grafter and does all the right things except score. I was hoping he'd calm his nerve after a season in the prem so he'd grab us some goals this season.
10 million is 10 million though.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 19, 2018 21:16:00 GMT 1
Looks like Swansea are going to try something a little different. Fair play to them for having the stones to try... Stoke (ie The Potters) should have gone for him, and it'd be a nice bit of nominative determinism! Funny you should say that,he did actually play for them as a player. |
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Post by arry11 on Jul 19, 2018 23:48:40 GMT 1
Guaranteed to find his shooting boots if he leaves us.
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Jul 20, 2018 1:38:31 GMT 1
As an all round player Ince has a lot to his game, and all his attributes deliver in the Championship. The problem he has in the Premier League is none of his attributes are quite good enough to be effective. Not quite fast enough, not strong on the ball and needs too many chances.
The debate over whether Quaner or Ince is worth keeping is an interesting one, because pound for pound Ince is a far better player (not even debatable) but Quaner has the pace to be effective and cause damage.
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