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Post by deo1 on Mar 31, 2018 19:07:29 GMT 1
West Brom and Stoke are down if you ask me and Southampton will have to pull out all of the stops to stay up. We need 4 more points to be safe I reckon šµāŖļøā½ļø
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Post by trailingleg on Mar 31, 2018 20:06:55 GMT 1
Town are in a dire position with our run in. We do not score and have little ambition, unfortunately, even against the mediocre teams like Newcastle. If we stay up it will be a miracle.
CP were twice as good as us, and even in their defeat against Liverpool they showed some serious competition, but the season isn't over yet. Stoke and Town may well survive, but we both need some positivity and intent.
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Post by chadders51 on Mar 31, 2018 20:32:25 GMT 1
We have four āwinnableā games. Burnley and Palace at home Swansea and West Ham away Our away form is abject Think our best final points tally is 34/35 unless we pull off a miracle result.
Itās just not going to be enough and you get the feel the club are already planning for the championship š”
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Post by ACW on Mar 31, 2018 22:48:21 GMT 1
We have four āwinnableā games. Burnley and Palace at home Swansea and West Ham away Our away form is abject Think our best final points tally is 34/35 unless we pull off a miracle result. Itās just not going to be enough and you get the feel the club are already planning for the championship š” I think you were planning for the Championship the minute you appointed Lambert. He might pull it off, but I can't see it. A very uninspiring appointment. |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on Mar 31, 2018 22:57:04 GMT 1
We have four āwinnableā games. Burnley and Palace at home Swansea and West Ham away Our away form is abject Think our best final points tally is 34/35 unless we pull off a miracle result. Itās just not going to be enough and you get the feel the club are already planning for the championship š” You might well beat Burnley but if Palace play anything like they can they will beat you comfortably We really need to beat either Brighton or Watford or we will be joining you in the second tier |
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Post by chadders51 on Mar 31, 2018 23:07:12 GMT 1
All very sad isnāt it
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 31, 2018 23:34:57 GMT 1
No mate, it's football. And a lot of our, and your, fans seem to forget that. |
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Post by chadders51 on Apr 1, 2018 15:21:01 GMT 1
Well that was what was expected but itās gutting when the ref changes the game with a shocking decision
Not that itās anything unusual After 10 years nothing will convince me that the refs arenāt blatantly biased towards the top 6
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Post by swollentoe on Apr 1, 2018 15:58:19 GMT 1
Look at the position of the ref for the first penalty
Very hard for him to see the touch on the ball, he was behind the play at and angle with a defender in the way
I ref and in that position I would have given the same outcome, even if it was stoke against west brim not just top 6
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Post by chadders51 on Apr 1, 2018 16:01:28 GMT 1
Look at the position of the ref for the first penalty Very hard for him to see the touch on the ball, he was behind the play at and angle with a defender in the way I ref and in that position I would have given the same outcome, even if it was stoke against west brim not just top 6 Surely if the ref canāt see it he canāt give it !!! |
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Post by isitjustme on Apr 1, 2018 16:03:42 GMT 1
Have to say I thought it was a clear pen in real time. But it really never was. Don't think the ref could be blamed too much though. Mistakes happen. We've had our fair share of 'em too!
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Post by nicovaesen on Apr 1, 2018 16:09:27 GMT 1
Look at the position of the ref for the first penalty Very hard for him to see the touch on the ball, he was behind the play at and angle with a defender in the way I ref and in that position I would have given the same outcome, even if it was stoke against west brim not just top 6 Surely if the ref canāt see it he canāt give it !!! This |
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Post by swollentoe on Apr 1, 2018 16:11:31 GMT 1
Look at the position of the ref for the first penalty Very hard for him to see the touch on the ball, he was behind the play at and angle with a defender in the way I ref and in that position I would have given the same outcome, even if it was stoke against west brim not just top 6 Surely if the ref canāt see it he canāt give it !!! I said he couldnāt see the touch by the defender on the ball he can definitely see the foul |
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Post by chadders51 on Apr 1, 2018 16:19:56 GMT 1
What foul  ? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 16:25:28 GMT 1
Surely the foul was on the defender given Ozil kicked him, not the other way around
That's even before you take into account he played the ball first
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 1, 2018 16:26:12 GMT 1
Thought stoke played well. Ref fucked them over.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Apr 1, 2018 16:27:32 GMT 1
What foul ? Chadders, having watched that first penalty over and over again, eventually you see that Indi does get he faintest of toe pokes to the ball. However having done so his foot comes down in front of Ozils foot tripping him. Had he come in from the side you would have had a stronger argument, coming in form the back was his downfall. I don't think though that you have room for complaint. Indi gave away two penaltys , the second one being nailed on, then he barges Lacazette to the floor where Joe Allen gets a yellow for an attempt at a dangerous tackle. How he came out of that game with nothing is a total mystery. he should have been off FFS. |
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Post by chadders51 on Apr 1, 2018 16:36:16 GMT 1
Weāll have to disagree mate. Nothing will convince me that that wasnāt a shocking decision or that if it had been in the other box thereās no way heād have given a penalty
End of the day we lost 3 0 but that decision changed the game
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Post by space hardware on Apr 1, 2018 16:49:24 GMT 1
Never a penalty in a million years. Just shit, weak refereeing from another clown.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 17:03:58 GMT 1
What foul ? Chadders, having watched that first penalty over and over again, eventually you see that Indi does get he faintest of toe pokes to the ball. However having done so his foot comes down in front of Ozils foot tripping him. Had he come in from the side you would have had a stronger argument, coming in form the back was his downfall. I don't think though that you have room for complaint. Indi gave away two penaltys , the second one being nailed on, then he barges Lacazette to the floor where Joe Allen gets a yellow for an attempt at a dangerous tackle. How he came out of that game with nothing is a total mystery. he should have been off FFS. You had to watch it over and over to see him play the ball? It was pretty clear from first viewing unless your name is Alan Smith |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Apr 1, 2018 17:53:06 GMT 1
Chadders, having watched that first penalty over and over again, eventually you see that Indi does get he faintest of toe pokes to the ball. However having done so his foot comes down in front of Ozils foot tripping him. Had he come in from the side you would have had a stronger argument, coming in form the back was his downfall. I don't think though that you have room for complaint. Indi gave away two penaltys , the second one being nailed on, then he barges Lacazette to the floor where Joe Allen gets a yellow for an attempt at a dangerous tackle. How he came out of that game with nothing is a total mystery. he should have been off FFS. You had to watch it over and over to see him play the ball? It was pretty clear from first viewing unless your name is Alan Smith I was watching on NBC. It took a while for them to show the angle where he manged to get the faintest of toes on the ball. He still came through the back though whether he touched it or not. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2018 19:44:29 GMT 1
You had to watch it over and over to see him play the ball? It was pretty clear from first viewing unless your name is Alan Smith I was watching on NBC. It took a while for them to show the angle where he manged to get the faintest of toes on the ball. He still came through the back though whether he touched it or not. Through the back of what? Since when weren't you allowed to stick your leg in to win the ball without touching the opponent? He wins the ball and then gets kicked by Ozil. It's not his fault he was able to get his foot to the ball quicker than Ozil was able to shoot It was either play on or a free kick to Stoke |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 1, 2018 20:00:05 GMT 1
If any tackler makes the challenge from behind, the chances are that the tacklee will be contacted and hit the deck regardless whether a foul is committed or not, that is why the defender is said to be on the 'wrong side of the opponent'. In today's game, it is after the defender played the ball but from many angles (including the refs today) it will make it look a foul.
Totally understand the decision by the ref and it would have been a plus for VAR because they would have corrected (IMO understandable) human error. It may be something to think about for those that castigate VAR so readily.
Unlucky for Stoke but for anyone to say in real time it was a shocking decision is just wrong IMO! I would have given a penalty in real time from the given camera angle which was another different view to the ref's.
I'm no fan of big six bias from the PL refs but have sympathy for Pawson today with that decision.
With the benefit of a slow motion replay it makes it look a shocker but that's the beauty of slow motion replays.
Understand the Stokie though, because if it was against us, my blue and white specs would likely have had me spitting feathers.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 1, 2018 20:15:47 GMT 1
Weāll have to disagree mate. Nothing will convince me that that wasnāt a shocking decision or that if it had been in the other box thereās no way heād have given a penalty End of the day we lost 3 0 but that decision changed the game I agree thought you played really well today. |
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Post by yoy on Apr 2, 2018 10:20:33 GMT 1
The touch was so faint that the defender will have barely noticed it. The ref had no chance. Much easier for him to see the man being taken.
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Post by jmbha on Apr 3, 2018 12:32:18 GMT 1
It was never a penalty in a MILLION years, so not quite sure how weāre lucky there fella. Course it was, nailed on. I've noticed you seem to be this board's wind up merchant, so will ignore. You're either joking, or blind. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Apr 3, 2018 12:40:57 GMT 1
Course it was, nailed on. I've noticed you seem to be this board's wind up merchant, so will ignore. You're either joking, or blind. Don't worry about it mate, he's like one of those "special" kids we all knew, with ironed creases down the front of his jeans. |
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Post by jmbha on Apr 3, 2018 12:49:26 GMT 1
I've noticed you seem to be this board's wind up merchant, so will ignore. You're either joking, or blind. Don't worry about it mate, he's like one of those "special" kids we all knew, with ironed creases down the front of his jeans. The Brighton board has many of those characters. As you say, anyone new falls for it, and is told just to ignore. |
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 3, 2018 15:41:59 GMT 1
Course it was, nailed on. I've noticed you seem to be this board's wind up merchant, so will ignore. You're either joking, or blind. If only he had that in his locker š |
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Post by Carlito Brigante on Apr 3, 2018 20:23:29 GMT 1
Don't worry about it mate, he's like one of those "special" kids we all knew, with ironed creases down the front of his jeans. The Brighton board has many of those characters. As you say, anyone new falls for it, and is told just to ignore. Do what many of us do and just block his posts Tries to play the illiterate idiot for some reason Each to their own I guess How confident are you on Saturday's game? We really need something imo |
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