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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 1:17:36 GMT 1
Are some of our fans genuinely wishing we had the likes of Lolley and Payne back who couldn’t get into our Championship team? Christ.
We’ve been in the PL over a year now, if fans can’t see the gulf in class between the 2 divisions, especially following Monday nights win/clean sheet against last years Championship free goal scorers, they will never understand football.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 3:11:06 GMT 1
Wouldn’t mind a repeat of his goal against hammers last season. He always had a goal in him. Championship is his level. Glad his career has got going again. Move the right thing for all.
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Post by morleyterrier on Nov 8, 2018 6:05:23 GMT 1
Lolley, Heff, good enough to play Premier League?.
The truth is we don't know. How can we until they have actually played there regularly?.
We will never know the answer to this for Town. I do though have a sneaky feeling this question will be answered once and for all with Forest next season.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Nov 8, 2018 7:25:39 GMT 1
Lochnessterrier - thanks a bunch for starting this thread... Aye, feel free to troll back seven months to see if I started one about Hefele.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 8, 2018 8:20:04 GMT 1
Lolley, Heff, good enough to play Premier League?. The truth is we don't know. How can we until they have actually played there regularly?. We will never know the answer to this for Town. I do though have a sneaky feeling this question will be answered once and for all with Forest next season. Yeah, he would score, sods law.
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Post by Metch on Nov 8, 2018 8:33:01 GMT 1
Lolley and Heff both had qualities we are finding hard to replace. In fact if Lolley had been playing the minutes this season taken up by Diakhaby/Mbenza we would arguably be in a better position. But overall he will never be a premier league player and the other two possibly could be because they have pace. In fact i think our season partly depends on getting the two newboys to contribute. With Hef we are missing the team unity and fight he brought but as a player he would not make it as a premier player either.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 8, 2018 8:51:51 GMT 1
Lolley and Heff both had qualities we are finding hard to replace. In fact if Lolley had been playing the minutes this season taken up by Diakhaby/Mbenza we would arguably be in a better position. But overall he will never be a premier league player and the other two possibly could be because they have pace. In fact i think our season partly depends on getting the two newboys to contribute. With Hef we are missing the team unity and fight he brought but as a player he would not make it as a premier player either. Why is there a perceived lack of fight?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 8, 2018 9:09:46 GMT 1
Lolley and Heff both had qualities we are finding hard to replace. In fact if Lolley had been playing the minutes this season taken up by Diakhaby/Mbenza we would arguably be in a better position. But overall he will never be a premier league player and the other two possibly could be because they have pace. In fact i think our season partly depends on getting the two newboys to contribute. With Hef we are missing the team unity and fight he brought but as a player he would not make it as a premier player either. Why is there a perceived lack of fight? There is no lack of fight.
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Post by terrier70 on Nov 8, 2018 9:24:27 GMT 1
Lolley and Heff both had qualities we are finding hard to replace. In fact if Lolley had been playing the minutes this season taken up by Diakhaby/Mbenza we would arguably be in a better position. But overall he will never be a premier league player and the other two possibly could be because they have pace. In fact i think our season partly depends on getting the two newboys to contribute. With Hef we are missing the team unity and fight he brought but as a player he would not make it as a premier player either. Really?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Nov 8, 2018 9:27:41 GMT 1
Lolley and Heff both had qualities we are finding hard to replace. In fact if Lolley had been playing the minutes this season taken up by Diakhaby/Mbenza we would arguably be in a better position. But overall he will never be a premier league player and the other two possibly could be because they have pace. In fact i think our season partly depends on getting the two newboys to contribute. With Hef we are missing the team unity and fight he brought but as a player he would not make it as a premier player either. Really? sloughterrier did say 'arguably'. No one would ever know if this is true as it is just hypothetical. Apart from the fact we would be in exactly the same position
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Post by terrier70 on Nov 8, 2018 9:29:21 GMT 1
sloughterrier did say 'arguably'. No one would ever know if this is true as it is just hypothetical. Apart from the fact we would be in exactly the same position Yes he did use the arguably and as you say it is just hypothetical Agree, I think we would be in exactly the same position!
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Post by Metch on Nov 8, 2018 9:56:03 GMT 1
sloughterrier did say 'arguably'. No one would ever know if this is true as it is just hypothetical. Apart from the fact we would be in exactly the same position Yes he did use the arguably and as you say it is just hypothetical Agree, I think we would be in exactly the same position! Guess i'm trying to say that Lolley and you can add Quaner aswell, might of given us more after 10 games than M and D but in the long run the latter two have the potential to succeed at this level and make us a stronger team but Lolley didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 10:12:34 GMT 1
Would provide more build up play and chances than unbilling
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Nov 8, 2018 10:16:55 GMT 1
Got to agree with that. Mbenza against Fulham was probably the first time I’ve seen a Town player in a goal scoring position in the Prem run away from the opposition. Okay the finish was pure Theo Robinson but it meant Fulham’s defenders couldn’t hold such a high line and we could keep the ball better in the last ten minutes. Yes he did use the arguably and as you say it is just hypothetical Agree, I think we would be in exactly the same position! Guess i'm trying to say that Lolley and you can add Quaner aswell, might of given us more after 10 games than M and D but in the long run the latter two have the potential to succeed at this level and make us a stronger team but Lolley didn't.
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Post by brighouseterrier1983 on Nov 8, 2018 10:32:06 GMT 1
Didn't Lolley give the ball away on the edge of the area against West Ham right before he scored that great goal? I read an article on him this past week and he admitted himself that the injuries and lack of fitness cost him at Town and he couldn't get this mental strength right for playing at Town. The move was right for both parties, he's obviously a confidence player and wish him and Hef the best and hopefully they can get promoted and be the star performers for their team. Mbenza's pace and first touch to set himself up was immense... Unfortunately the finish was awful but he got himself into that position, hopefully they've been working on that scenario with him in training this week ready for Saturday !!!
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Post by calken on Nov 8, 2018 14:08:33 GMT 1
Mbenza's pace and first touch to set himself up was immense... Unfortunately the finish was awful but he got himself into that position, hopefully they've been working on that scenario with him in training this week ready for Saturday !!! I've seen glimmers of Mbenza that suggest he could be a very good signing. I like that his first thought is to attack but not at the detriment of loosing the ball, unlike VLP. That finish was comical though - he even set himself up correctly, didn't try to blast it, looked up and side footed - unfortunately, very wide......
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 8, 2018 16:30:49 GMT 1
Mbenza's pace and first touch to set himself up was immense... Unfortunately the finish was awful but he got himself into that position, hopefully they've been working on that scenario with him in training this week ready for Saturday !!! I've seen glimmers of Mbenza that suggest he could be a very good signing. I like that his first thought is to attack but not at the detriment of loosing the ball, unlike VLP. That finish was comical though - he even set himself up correctly, didn't try to blast it, looked up and side footed - unfortunately, very wide...... loosing ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 16:35:02 GMT 1
I've seen glimmers of Mbenza that suggest he could be a very good signing. I like that his first thought is to attack but not at the detriment of loosing the ball, unlike VLP. That finish was comical though - he even set himself up correctly, didn't try to blast it, looked up and side footed - unfortunately, very wide...... loosing ? Nick,, the grammar queen..
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Post by froggyterrier on Nov 8, 2018 17:13:48 GMT 1
Lolley is only the answer to what do children get after visiting the doctor. I like the lad, Payne too. But we need a higher calibre.
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Post by calken on Nov 8, 2018 18:00:10 GMT 1
I've seen glimmers of Mbenza that suggest he could be a very good signing. I like that his first thought is to attack but not at the detriment of loosing the ball, unlike VLP. That finish was comical though - he even set himself up correctly, didn't try to blast it, looked up and side footed - unfortunately, very wide...... loosing ? Unfortunately, higher things wits are different when I swore then Unfortunately, Google thinks words are different when I swipe them.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 8, 2018 18:05:15 GMT 1
Unfortunately, higher things wits are different when I swore then Unfortunately, Google thinks words are different when I swipe them. You obviously missed one of the biggest examples of irony you'll ever find on here, with regards to the poster who pulled you up on the spelling...
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Nov 8, 2018 20:03:25 GMT 1
Are some of our fans genuinely wishing we had the likes of Lolley and Payne back who couldn’t get into our Championship team? Christ. We’ve been in the PL over a year now, if fans can’t see the gulf in class between the 2 divisions, especially following Monday nights win/clean sheet against last years Championship free goal scorers, they will never understand football. Hallelujah, someone with a bit of football knowledge.👍🏻
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Post by dugnet on Nov 29, 2018 12:21:23 GMT 1
Did we have a buy back on Joe? What's his value now? Diakhaby £11m? Mind you most on here thought he was crap....and we all know DATM knows best don't we?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 12:25:20 GMT 1
Did we have a buy back on Joe? What's his value now? Diakhaby £11m? Mind you most on here thought he was crap....and we all know DATM knows best don't we? Who are you dropping in order to give him a game?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 12:31:28 GMT 1
I'm pleased he's doing so well. But, as we all know, the gulf in class is huge. Scott Malone anyone? He had his chance last season and bar the goal v Hammers, he was like a fish out of water. He may well get another chance and come good, however, at the time, we could not afford to carry him and made the decision accordingly. Look forward, not back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 12:31:29 GMT 1
Yes which hard working ball winning midfielder do we drop so we can watch Lolley run straight at the Premier league defences and get bounced on to his arse?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 12:42:19 GMT 1
Are some of our fans genuinely wishing we had the likes of Lolley and Payne back who couldn’t get into our Championship team? Christ. We’ve been in the PL over a year now, if fans can’t see the gulf in class between the 2 divisions, especially following Monday nights win/clean sheet against last years Championship free goal scorers, they will never understand football. Hallelujah, someone with a bit of football knowledge.👍🏻 The gulf is bigger than ever and gets exponentially bigger every season. If we keep going as we are then we will become one of the established top 20 biggest clubs in UK. Every year prem teams grow further away from their championship rivals. There are a few bigger clubs remaining in the championship (though they appear to not play within the financial rules -Villa) Otherwise it’s teams who’ve had prem money in recent 3 years eg. Boro, West Brom, Swansea etc.. I do think soon it’ll be the same 3 that come straight back and then it’ll become a fixed league like NFL. The financial disparity is too much now. If you’re a championship club now is the time. Every year it gets harder.
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Post by artysid on Nov 29, 2018 12:52:43 GMT 1
Yes which hard working ball winning midfielder do we drop so we can watch Lolley run straight at the Premier league defences and get bounced on to his arse? Here typeth a poster of immeasurable wisdom and commonsense.
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Post by royrace on Nov 29, 2018 13:32:07 GMT 1
Lolley doing much better at Forest than he ever did for us in that league, something has obviously clicked. I've seen the goals from last night and previous weeks and he looks fitter and more athletic than he ever did playing for us. Maybe its the way the team play, train or maybe he's just finally managed to get himself properly fit. Good luck to him and I really hope we have a sell on, if he carries on in that form he may get a big move. Bet he enjoyed last night being a Villa fan too!
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Nov 29, 2018 13:36:34 GMT 1
I've seen glimmers of Mbenza that suggest he could be a very good signing. I like that his first thought is to attack but not at the detriment of loosing the ball, unlike VLP. That finish was comical though - he even set himself up correctly, didn't try to blast it, looked up and side footed - unfortunately, very wide...... loosing ? Yes, as in firing or launching. Archers "loose" their arrows. Grammatically correct.
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