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Post by lochnessterrier on Apr 14, 2018 17:57:29 GMT 1
95th minute winner for Forest today. Well done Joe 😊
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Post by Stewpot on Apr 14, 2018 18:02:18 GMT 1
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Post by philincalifornia on Apr 14, 2018 18:04:50 GMT 1
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Post by lochnessterrier on Apr 14, 2018 18:05:10 GMT 1
Normally you get some ( not me by the way ) pointing you in the direction of the ex-player thread. However today, who cares ? Fair point, I'm sure the admins can shift it.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Apr 14, 2018 18:06:57 GMT 1
Not even an insult like that can upset me today 😁 (.... you twat)
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Post by philincalifornia on Apr 14, 2018 18:10:37 GMT 1
I must endeavour to try harder .... but yeah, go Joe. I'm jealous of the bloke that Kidderminster lass is dating tonight.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 7, 2018 20:38:12 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 7, 2018 20:39:14 GMT 1
He made a goal for West Ham and got dropped after one game .. not good enough move on
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 7, 2018 20:41:34 GMT 1
He made a goal for West Ham and got dropped after one game .. not good enough move on You talk rubbish, the lads been superb for forest, look at the dross we have bought ! Your wrong on this one.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 7, 2018 20:48:23 GMT 1
He made a goal for West Ham and got dropped after one game .. not good enough move on You talk rubbish, the lads been superb for forest, look at the dross we have bought ! Your wrong on this one. He was here for four seasons and hardly played .
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Post by space hardware on Nov 7, 2018 20:52:13 GMT 1
If anything, it shows the huge gulf in class between the Premier League and the Championship.
We weren't wrong to let him go.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 7, 2018 20:55:37 GMT 1
If anything, it shows the huge gulf in class between the Premier League and the Championship. We weren't wrong to let him go. Although I would accept he has maybe improved , may be being better managed . May make it in the prem one day . Sometimes things happen. No one would ever have though arfield would have played regularly in the top flight after his displays for us .. but hindsight is a wonderful thing and based on what he did for us it was a good decision
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 7, 2018 21:01:34 GMT 1
He made a goal for West Ham and got dropped after one game .. not good enough move on You talk rubbish, the lads been superb for forest, look at the dross we have bought ! Your wrong on this one. One swallow doesn't make a summer... By the way, it's you're wrong... Edit to say, did you have a hand in writing that story? Smacks of real sour grapes, or perhaps a Leeds fan that writes for that rag? Pleased that he's doing well though & hopefully his injury problems are behind him. I expect that was part of the decision for moving him on as well.
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 7, 2018 21:56:08 GMT 1
Keep saying this but it keeps being forgotten that Wagner was the only town manager that did play Lolley. He was recalled from scunny by Wagner and played regularly after that in 15/16 and then started the first 3 games of 16/17 before injury derailed him (again) until about February.
Plenty of technically ability but doesn’t have the pace and/or physicality for the premier league, neither does he have the discipline for a team scrapping at the bottom end. Probably a better championship wide man than VLP given he will provide an end product, but for us, in this league? No chance.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 7, 2018 21:59:03 GMT 1
Keep saying this but it keeps being forgotten that Wagner was the only town manager that did play Lolley. He was recalled from scunny by Wagner and played regularly after that in 15/16 and then started the first 3 games of 16/17 before injury derailed him (again) until about February. Plenty of technically ability but doesn’t have the pace and/or physicality for the premier league, neither does he have the discipline for a team scrapping at the bottom end. Probably a better championship wide man than VLP given he will provide an end product, but for us, in this league? No chance. He was nowhere near displacing vlp in last two seasons tbh .. bloody good luck to him though maybe he will still fulfill his dreams . I remember arfield stating that he ( in broad terms) fucked it up at Town and proper knuckled down at Burnley . Maybe Lolley can do similar
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 7, 2018 21:59:34 GMT 1
One good thing about being in the PL is I'd forgotten about the very existence of Birtles, the bloke is an absolutely shite pundit.
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Post by mayorofcov (BFHB) Honours on Nov 7, 2018 21:59:50 GMT 1
Best of look to the lad A legend down here in Warwickshire UTT
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 7, 2018 22:10:14 GMT 1
Keep saying this but it keeps being forgotten that Wagner was the only town manager that did play Lolley. He was recalled from scunny by Wagner and played regularly after that in 15/16 and then started the first 3 games of 16/17 before injury derailed him (again) until about February. Plenty of technically ability but doesn’t have the pace and/or physicality for the premier league, neither does he have the discipline for a team scrapping at the bottom end. Probably a better championship wide man than VLP given he will provide an end product, but for us, in this league? No chance. He was nowhere near displacing vlp in last two seasons tbh .. bloody good luck to him though maybe he will still fulfill his dreams . I remember arfield stating that he ( in broad terms) fucked it up at Town and proper knuckled down at Burnley . Maybe Lolley can do similar Correct. Because whilst being a frustrating brainless idiot at times VLP has pace, discipline and defensive work rate, none of which can be applied to Lolley. Lolley would be like Gary Roberts at this level, he’d have to beat a man 12 times, and he’d be hopelessly out of position defensively. It’s a different ball game in terms of speed, strength and fitness, especially for widemen and fullbacks. There’s plenty of players in the prem with less ability than Lolley, but pace and strength buys you time to do something, Eg a much less talented Quaner having 4/5 prem assists. Lolley would never have that chance to get his head up.
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Post by El Mel on Nov 7, 2018 22:22:49 GMT 1
He was nowhere near displacing vlp in last two seasons tbh .. bloody good luck to him though maybe he will still fulfill his dreams . I remember arfield stating that he ( in broad terms) fucked it up at Town and proper knuckled down at Burnley . Maybe Lolley can do similar Correct. Because whilst being a frustrating brainless idiot at times VLP has pace, discipline and defensive work rate, none of which can be applied to Lolley. Lolley would be like Gary Roberts at this level, he’d have to beat a man 12 times, and he’d be hopelessly out of position defensively. It’s a different ball game in terms of speed, strength and fitness, especially for widemen and fullbacks. There’s plenty of players in the prem with less ability than Lolley, but pace and strength buys you time to do something, Eg a much less talented Quaner having 4/5 prem assists. Lolley would never have that chance to get his head up. Aye, we signed one like that, he came on as a sub t'other night and scuffed a shot out almost for a throw in.
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 7, 2018 22:44:57 GMT 1
Correct. Because whilst being a frustrating brainless idiot at times VLP has pace, discipline and defensive work rate, none of which can be applied to Lolley. Lolley would be like Gary Roberts at this level, he’d have to beat a man 12 times, and he’d be hopelessly out of position defensively. It’s a different ball game in terms of speed, strength and fitness, especially for widemen and fullbacks. There’s plenty of players in the prem with less ability than Lolley, but pace and strength buys you time to do something, Eg a much less talented Quaner having 4/5 prem assists. Lolley would never have that chance to get his head up. Aye, we signed one like that, he came on as a sub t'other night and scuffed a shot out almost for a throw in. We did. Point is though he could have scored that chance. Lolley wouldn’t have had it.
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Post by El Mel on Nov 7, 2018 23:04:12 GMT 1
Aye, we signed one like that, he came on as a sub t'other night and scuffed a shot out almost for a throw in. We did. Point is though he could have scored that chance. Lolley wouldn’t have had it. Well Lolley clearly doesn't have the pace to lose the defender like that. However, there is no doubt that his decision making would have been better in similar circumstances - ie. only the keeper to beat?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 7, 2018 23:08:38 GMT 1
We did. Point is though he could have scored that chance. Lolley wouldn’t have had it. Well Lolley clearly doesn't have the pace to lose the defender like that. However, there is no doubt that his decision making would have been better in similar circumstances - ie. only the keeper to beat? I can see a Frankenstein type experiment coming on - the head of Joe Lolley plus the engine of Mbenza...
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Post by Melc on Nov 7, 2018 23:12:51 GMT 1
He made a goal for West Ham and got dropped after one game .. not good enough move on You talk rubbish, the lads been superb for forest, look at the dross we have bought ! Your wrong on this one. Come on Nick, the Championship and premiership are two different things! Lolley struggled to play our pressing game having to get back as well as his attacking duties, ( i am sure his brother came on here once and said the same thing). Ince was a world beater in the championship, but also struggled at our level also. Good luck to Joe at Forest, but he was not up to it for us at this level imo.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 7, 2018 23:23:55 GMT 1
You talk rubbish, the lads been superb for forest, look at the dross we have bought ! Your wrong on this one. Come on Nick, the Championship and premiership are two different things! Lolley struggled to play our pressing game having to get back as well as his attacking duties, ( i am sure his brother came on here once and said the same thing). Ince was a world beater in the championship, but also struggled at our level also. Good luck to Joe at Forest, but he was not up to it for us at this level imo. We wont know though, at least he scores a few goals.
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Nov 7, 2018 23:36:02 GMT 1
Why are we still going on about a player who will never make a premiership footballer, his level is the Championship at best. Move on.
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Post by willo on Nov 7, 2018 23:38:08 GMT 1
He made a goal for West Ham and got dropped after one game .. not good enough move on You talk rubbish, the lads been superb for forest, look at the dross we have bought ! Your wrong on this one. You don’t have post some nonsense. As others on here have already said & has been discussed many times over previously, never a PL player in any universe.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 7, 2018 23:39:06 GMT 1
Why are we still going on about a player who will never make a premiership footballer, his level is the Championship at best. Move on. Thing is, you dont really know that, if he carrys on like he does he may get taken by one next season. So Dont move on.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 7, 2018 23:45:01 GMT 1
Why are we still going on about a player who will never make a premiership footballer, his level is the Championship at best. Move on. Thing is, you dont really know that, if he carrys on like he does he may get taken by one next season. So Dont move on. I always liked Joe and you may be right Nick but if he is it won't be us so we might as well move on
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Nov 7, 2018 23:56:30 GMT 1
Lochnessterrier - thanks a bunch for starting this thread...
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 8, 2018 0:36:40 GMT 1
Joe has certainly moved on. 😂 Truth is he needed a new start
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