Thwarting Dog
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Jun 18, 2018 21:43:44 GMT 1
Walker,Lingard,Sterling,Young....leave out for next game Gareth, give someone else a chance to shine
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 18, 2018 21:47:38 GMT 1
Is there anyone out there who thinks England will win the world cup?
They must be fucking mental.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jun 18, 2018 21:50:29 GMT 1
Can you do a thread on why Town won't win the Premier League 2018/19? Town 2000/1...no need for comment. England 14/1...need for comment. OK? |
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Post by drumriggend on Jun 18, 2018 21:52:26 GMT 1
We had 2 free kicks in dangerous areas
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Trippier took 1st
Young took 2nd..
What
The fook
Kane
Alli.
Etc
In team yet full backs taking free kicks??
Shows a massive lack of direction from manager
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Post by philincalifornia on Jun 18, 2018 22:04:48 GMT 1
We had 2 free kicks in dangerous areas . Trippier took 1st Young took 2nd.. What The fook Kane Alli. Etc In team yet full backs taking free kicks?? Shows a massive lack of direction from manager Hey, at least Kane's not taking the corners now. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jun 18, 2018 22:11:33 GMT 1
Providing Belgium are the group winners, England will have a great chance of winning the WC. It's getting so lopsided now, and increasingly more likely that Germany, Brazil and France will be in one half of the draw. Leaving England with only Argentina or Spain to dispatch providing anti-slackness prevails.
Oh man, but Southgate is so honest, he'll probably want and go and beat the Belgians, and put us in with the World's current best - in their half of the draw.
Just needs to be slightly clever and England can win this World Cup.
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 18, 2018 22:11:58 GMT 1
No need to overthink it. It's exactly the same reason why the USA or Australia or any of about 200 other countries in the world won't win... Just not good enough. Think you're being a bit harsh on Southgate. From the outside looking in, he seems to me the best couch you've had in years. Suite! |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jun 18, 2018 22:14:28 GMT 1
We had 2 free kicks in dangerous areas . Trippier took 1st Young took 2nd.. What The fook Kane Alli. Etc In team yet full backs taking free kicks?? Shows a massive lack of direction from manager Hey, at least Kane's not taking the corners now. If I was England manager Kane would have taken the first corner tonight.(As an ironic gesture) |
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Post by arry11 on Jun 18, 2018 22:19:46 GMT 1
That is Oti who won £97,000 in the last calendar year yeh? Good lad have ya ever thought about spending all the money on facial restructure and penis enlarger ment We’re on are way We’re on our way UTT xxxxx[/quot He spent it all on reducing the length of his nose several times. |
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Post by space hardware on Jun 18, 2018 22:19:48 GMT 1
Providing Belgium are the group winners, England will have a great chance of winning the WC. It's getting so lopsided now, and increasingly more likely that Germany, Brazil and France will be in one half of the draw. Leaving England with only Argentina or Spain to dispatch providing anti-slackness prevails. Oh man, but Southgate is so honest, he'll probably want and go and beat the Belgians, and put us in with the World's current best - in their half of the draw. Just needs to be slightly clever and England can win this World Cup. Only Spain and Argentina 😂😂 |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 18, 2018 22:28:32 GMT 1
I stopped reading at sterling being world class ffs sterling is great in a great team.. Rashford looks better in the England team.. the 'team' is everything here because world class as a group they are not.. however if we do well then being world class is a moot point and the 'experts' can fuck off.. having listened to the wankfest over Brazil, even when they were clearly struggling its difficult to assess anymore what world class is.. Ronaldo was world class the other night with a very hard working unit around him.. he produced for 90 minutes and worked his arse off both on and off the ball.. I loathe ronaldo but credit where its due.. if Kane scores 2 a game he will be a world class striker by july, but Ronaldo is a world class footballer period.. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 18, 2018 22:32:01 GMT 1
I shall begin with the most relevant reasons. 1. Not enough world-class players. England cannot win it in the same way that Libya cannot win it...the players are not good enough. How many of the current squad play at PSG, Barca, Real Madrid or Juventus? Who is world-class? Kane or Sterling on an exceptional day? You need 4 or 5 top,top players at the very least. 2. Mental strength and attitude. The least passionate and most self-absorbed squad. Cossetted from youth..its about the money, headphones and roasting women. They always come home saying it was too long or they are retiring or they were bored in the hotel. Chicarito came off blubbing yesterday simply because they had won the opening match...what would he have done had they qualified! 3. Ranking and form. Ranked below the Swiss, Poland, Chile, Peru and Denmark....for good reason. These teams are at least England's equal. Weight of money with British bookmakers always shortens them. They are 15/1 and i would not back them at treble that with Southgate's money. In just over two years they have beaten one decent team (Holland), who were in free-fall. 4. Southgate. I do not rate him. Been groomed for the job by the FA since he captained England. A "Yes" man. They always speak of him as calm, intelligent, considered. I have never heard a profound or erudite word from him...even when i was in his company privately...in fact i think he is none too sharp. His management record is not exactly glowing either. Simply not the man for the job. England to beat Belgium in the final  Thought just the same in 1966. Thought his quote about Sven's half time talk in the Brazil game in Japan was profound - ‘We needed Churchill but we got Iain Duncan-Smith.” 😂 |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jun 18, 2018 22:32:58 GMT 1
Providing Belgium are the group winners, England will have a great chance of winning the WC. It's getting so lopsided now, and increasingly more likely that Germany, Brazil and France will be in one half of the draw. Leaving England with only Argentina or Spain to dispatch providing anti-slackness prevails. Oh man, but Southgate is so honest, he'll probably want and go and beat the Belgians, and put us in with the World's current best - in their half of the draw. Just needs to be slightly clever and England can win this World Cup. Only Spain and Argentina 😂😂 Argentina's defence too vulnerable and Spain are a team of sprightly codgers (codgers never win at owt on this level). |
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Post by mightytj on Jun 18, 2018 22:39:39 GMT 1
We had 2 free kicks in dangerous areas . Trippier took 1st Young took 2nd.. What The fook Kane Alli. Etc In team yet full backs taking free kicks?? Shows a massive lack of direction from manager God forbid a full back might take a great free kick, thank fuck town don’t do that... oh hang on a minute |
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Post by The-Crab on Jun 18, 2018 22:40:27 GMT 1
I stopped reading at sterling being world class ffs sterling is great in a great team.. Rashford looks better in the England team.. the 'team' is everything here because world class as a group they are not.. however if we do well then being world class is a moot point and the 'experts' can fuck off.. having listened to the wankfest over Brazil, even when they were clearly struggling its difficult to assess anymore what world class is.. Ronaldo was world class the other night with a very hard working unit around him.. he produced for 90 minutes and worked his arse off both on and off the ball.. I loathe ronaldo but credit where its due.. if Kane scores 2 a game he will be a world class striker by july, but Ronaldo is a world class footballer period.. Never rated sterling, I think the great team make him look better than he is, as they create so many chances. I think his longest ranged goal is from 3 yards. Never seen him score a goal on the back of him taking someone on or from more than 10 yards. Just don't rate him at all, just no end product for me. All my opinion of course. Much prefer rashford for club and country. |
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 18, 2018 22:45:37 GMT 1
I stopped reading at sterling being world class ffs sterling is great in a great team.. Rashford looks better in the England team.. the 'team' is everything here because world class as a group they are not.. however if we do well then being world class is a moot point and the 'experts' can fuck off.. having listened to the wankfest over Brazil, even when they were clearly struggling its difficult to assess anymore what world class is.. Ronaldo was world class the other night with a very hard working unit around him.. he produced for 90 minutes and worked his arse off both on and off the ball.. I loathe ronaldo but credit where its due.. if Kane scores 2 a game he will be a world class striker by july, but Ronaldo is a world class footballer period..
Bit harsh on Ronaldo there Galph!   |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 18, 2018 22:47:32 GMT 1
We had 2 free kicks in dangerous areas . Trippier took 1st Young took 2nd.. What The fook Kane Alli. Etc In team yet full backs taking free kicks?? Shows a massive lack of direction from manager God forbid a full back might take a great free kick, thank fuck town don’t do that... oh hang on a minute Couldn't quite understand why Kane didn't pull rank and take those free kicks from Trippier and Young - or at least put Rashford in for the one in the second half. |
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Post by space hardware on Jun 18, 2018 22:48:50 GMT 1
Only Spain and Argentina 😂😂 Argentina's defence too vulnerable and Spain are a team of sprightly codgers (codgers never win at owt on this level). Sprightly codgers is a cracking description 😂 |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 18, 2018 22:51:40 GMT 1
I shall begin with the most relevant reasons. 1. Not enough world-class players. England cannot win it in the same way that Libya cannot win it...the players are not good enough. How many of the current squad play at PSG, Barca, Real Madrid or Juventus? Who is world-class? Kane or Sterling on an exceptional day? You need 4 or 5 top,top players at the very least. 2. Mental strength and attitude. The least passionate and most self-absorbed squad. Cossetted from youth..its about the money, headphones and roasting women. They always come home saying it was too long or they are retiring or they were bored in the hotel. Chicarito came off blubbing yesterday simply because they had won the opening match...what would he have done had they qualified! 3. Ranking and form. Ranked below the Swiss, Poland, Chile, Peru and Denmark....for good reason. These teams are at least England's equal. Weight of money with British bookmakers always shortens them. They are 15/1 and i would not back them at treble that with Southgate's money. In just over two years they have beaten one decent team (Holland), who were in free-fall. 4. Southgate. I do not rate him. Been groomed for the job by the FA since he captained England. A "Yes" man. They always speak of him as calm, intelligent, considered. I have never heard a profound or erudite word from him...even when i was in his company privately...in fact i think he is none too sharp. His management record is not exactly glowing either. Simply not the man for the job. England to beat Belgium in the final Seriously...i ran out of time and missed a biggie. 5. No central play-maker. So slow and ponderous in the middle. Henderson would struggle in Towns team...Dier is slower still. You cannot win the world cup with water carriers (actually hod-carriers). You need a Messi, a Pirlo, a Platini or a Xavi. 1. Probably true. We don't have many world class players just now. Probably just Kane in truth. But we have several who play for Man City who most days would beat PSG, Juventus, Real and possibly Barca so not sure that point makes any sense. 2. On what grounds are our squad the least passionate or most self-absorbed? Your average englishman might be though when it comes to their national side. Its just a lazy cheap shot that. Meaningless and based on nothing. If Poland had got a late winner tonight in the same way, you'd be raving about their determination to get a result to the very end and how they had the character to not give in. I imagine with england you'd portray it as a negative that we left it so late. 3. Rankings are largely bollocks. Tunisia are 21st but I thought they were crap and made almost no attempt to actually win the game. If England played any of Poland, Swiss, Chile, Peru or Denmark we'd beat them far more times than not, because we're a better team than them. 4. I wasn;t sure but hes impressed me so far. Seems to have brought a unity into the squad and hasn;t been afriad to make big decisions that so called top managers in the past haven;t had the bottle to do. 5. A fair point. We do lack a quality central play maker. Southgate is clearl;y aware of that so have built a side that attacks down the flanks instead. |
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Post by arry11 on Jun 18, 2018 22:52:33 GMT 1
God forbid a full back might take a great free kick, thank fuck town don’t do that... oh hang on a minute Couldn't quite understand why Kane didn't pull rank and take those free kicks from Trippier and Young - or at least put Rashford in for the one in the second half. Alexander Arnold has a great delivery put some great balls in at Bellend Road |
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Post by impact on Jun 18, 2018 22:58:01 GMT 1
When Oti writes a thread giving detailed reasons for why England will not win the World Cup, you know it's time for you to put your house on England winning the World Cup. That is Oti who won £97,000 in the last calendar year yeh? All that money and you still haven't worked out how to post a screenshot. |
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Post by TTerrier on Jun 18, 2018 23:03:44 GMT 1
Walker,Lingard,Sterling,Young....leave out for next game Gareth, give someone else a chance to shine Walker and sterling will both provide enough for the side. Both top quality in their position and honestly think they would be in contention for many of the best countries in the world. People slating Sterling yet one of the widely recognised best managers in the world plays him weekly for his club. For me he's like how most on here recognise VLP for town. Lingard however, missed 2 must score opportunities -that just isn't acceptable for that level. He could've put England 3-0 ahead on his chances alone by HT, yet Lingard seems to be avoid of any criticism whatsoever. Young spends a bit too much time whining for me and isn't a left footed LB. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 23:06:53 GMT 1
Walker,Lingard,Sterling,Young....leave out for next game Gareth, give someone else a chance to shine Walker and sterling will both provide enough for the side. Both top quality in their position and honestly think they would be in contention for many of the best countries in the world. People slating Sterling yet one of the widely recognised best managers in the world plays him weekly for his club. For me he's like how most on here recognise VLP for town. Lingard however, missed 2 must score opportunities -that just isn't acceptable for that level. He could've put England 3-0 ahead on his chances alone by HT, yet Lingard seems to be avoid of any criticism whatsoever. Young spends a bit too much time whining for me and isn't a left footed LB. Sterling is obviously a good player but a striker he is not. Id play him in a front three definitely but we have better options if we're going to play two up top. |
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Post by Leporid on Jun 18, 2018 23:07:26 GMT 1
No need to overthink it. It's exactly the same reason why the USA or Australia or any of about 200 other countries in the world won't win... Just not good enough. Think you're being a bit harsh on Southgate. From the outside looking in, he seems to me the best couch you've had in years. Yeh, we have not lost a game yet...sofa, so good. It's all about the chaise. |
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Post by TTerrier on Jun 18, 2018 23:09:37 GMT 1
Walker and sterling will both provide enough for the side. Both top quality in their position and honestly think they would be in contention for many of the best countries in the world. People slating Sterling yet one of the widely recognised best managers in the world plays him weekly for his club. For me he's like how most on here recognise VLP for town. Lingard however, missed 2 must score opportunities -that just isn't acceptable for that level. He could've put England 3-0 ahead on his chances alone by HT, yet Lingard seems to be avoid of any criticism whatsoever. Young spends a bit too much time whining for me and isn't a left footed LB. Sterling is obviously a good player but a striker he is not. Id play him in a front three definitely but we have better options if we're going to play two up top. I agree - play Sterling in Lingards position and Vardy up top. JV would've bagged at least 2 of the glaring chances first half. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 18, 2018 23:29:22 GMT 1
Couldn't quite understand why Kane didn't pull rank and take those free kicks from Trippier and Young - or at least put Rashford in for the one in the second half. Alexandra Arnold has a great delivery put some great balls in at Bellend Road He wasn't on the pitch though? |
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Jun 18, 2018 23:56:13 GMT 1
Walker and sterling will both provide enough for the side. Both top quality in their position and honestly think they would be in contention for many of the best countries in the world. People slating Sterling yet one of the widely recognised best managers in the world plays him weekly for his club. For me he's like how most on here recognise VLP for town. Lingard however, missed 2 must score opportunities -that just isn't acceptable for that level. He could've put England 3-0 ahead on his chances alone by HT, yet Lingard seems to be avoid of any criticism whatsoever. Young spends a bit too much time whining for me and isn't a left footed LB. Sterling is obviously a good player but a striker he is not. Id play him in a front three definitely but we have better options if we're going to play two up top. We play Panama next, we can leave a few out here to get game time so for me I'd play Alexander-Arnold for 'caught in the headlights' Walker. Rashford for 'I can still miss from 3 yards if you fogot' Sterling Rose for 'Too old school' Young Loftus-Cheek in for'I need 4 chances a game to maybe score once' Lingard If Deli-Alli is injured just play Vardy And go for it, nothing to lose then pick a side to draw with Belgium and come second in the group ! |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 18, 2018 23:56:40 GMT 1
He wasn't on the pitch though? Have i got the wrong match. Think so - we (me anyway) were talking about the free kicks v Tunisia tonight just outside the box that Young and Trippier took. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Jun 18, 2018 23:58:22 GMT 1
Is there anyone out there who thinks England will win the world cup? They must be fucking mental. Yes, me!! |
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Post by dugnet on Jun 19, 2018 0:00:51 GMT 1
A bit of a bizarre thread as I am not sure anyone actually expects England to win the World Cup.
As for their price undoubtedly influenced by English bookmakers money but probably about right in a market where there are probably 13 other teams who could win and 18 who won't.
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