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Aug 6, 2019 12:29:44 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 6, 2019 12:29:44 GMT 1
Give one of the younger players a chance cant be worse!
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Post by calken on Aug 6, 2019 12:31:01 GMT 1
Thought Flo was considerably better than Kongolo yesterday, and Flo didn't cost £17m.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 6, 2019 12:31:50 GMT 1
Thought Flo was considerably better than Kongolo yesterday, and Flo didn't cost £17m. Kongolo is being played out of position. He's a centre half. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Aug 6, 2019 12:34:54 GMT 1
Wasn’t the worst player last night but was still absolutley gash.
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Flo
Aug 6, 2019 14:07:14 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 14:07:14 GMT 1
I bet any money that whoever signed Flo, Diakhaby and Mbenza never played football themselves at any level cos these guys aren’t footballers- they’re just decent athletes.
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Aug 6, 2019 14:10:28 GMT 1
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Post by impact on Aug 6, 2019 14:10:28 GMT 1
Thought Flo was considerably better than Kongolo yesterday, and Flo didn't cost £17m. Yet Kongolo was the only one of the 2 who could put in a decent ball, one of which we should have scored from. It's all well and good getting into good positions down the wing, but if you do nothing with it it's all pointless. |
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Post by impact on Aug 6, 2019 14:13:00 GMT 1
I could name 8 or 9 worse than him last night but it's been decided he's shit and nothing will change that. As for crossing we had one man in the box against 4,5 or 6 defenders. Quite agree, one in particular springs to mind when he got forward well, was the most advanced player and everyone else took a gentle stroll forward. He fizzed in a cross for one of their 4 or 5 defenders to control comfortably and play out. Next most advanced town player was peddling his Zimmer Frame just past half way.
Ok, odd that he fizzed it to no one but he'd have got pelters if he'd have gone backwards anyway.
I thought he had a decent game but as you say he's been shit so that's that then
That bit summed him up though, didn't it? Got into a good position, then messed up the final ball. A simple look up would have told him no one was there and to keep hold of the ball, or win a corner. Yes the support was way too slow getting there, as I thought it was all game, but that doesn't mean you just smash a ball in the box regardless. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 14:14:34 GMT 1
Thought Flo was considerably better than Kongolo yesterday, and Flo didn't cost £17m. Kongolo is being played out of position. He's a centre half. Maybe so, but can you remember his immense performances at LB in 2017/18 ? He broke Scott McTominay in half at Old Trafford and likewise a couple of West Brom players at the Hawthorns. Barely featured at CB until the back 3 games right at the end of season. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 6, 2019 14:19:32 GMT 1
The only player we managed to get into decent positions with any regularity. It wasn't all his fault that they came to nothing.
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Aug 6, 2019 14:21:58 GMT 1
Post by worthington on Aug 6, 2019 14:21:58 GMT 1
I’m mising something which many here are seeing, but I’m not. Flo has real pace and crosses well. Sometimes he get tripped or stumbles because of his pace. Sometimes his crosses are off target. Regardless, he generally takes us further forward than VLP. What am I missing? Just about everything |
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on Aug 6, 2019 14:26:18 GMT 1
The only player we managed to get into decent positions with any regularity. It wasn't all his fault that they came to nothing. Agreed. Some very very good attacking movement, was a lot less soft than he was last season, soldiered on after an injury. You've got to be a top draw crosser of the ball to get something when there are as many defenders in the box as Derby had. He got pelters for not looking up and crossing when there was nobody in the box, but why was there nobody in the box? A bit poor defensively but not the prime suspect by any means. |
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Aug 6, 2019 14:27:27 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 14:27:27 GMT 1
Thought Flo was considerably better than Kongolo yesterday, and Flo didn't cost £17m. Pritchard was drifting infield leaving kongolo with very few options as nobody was really around to support him. Flo to be fair did get in to some attacking positions second half, i think he had limited support too but not to the same extent. Kongolo is a centre half and a great one at that, not a fullback. Defensively flo got done a few times. What shocked me most though was that he went off the pitch injured only once!!! |
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Aug 6, 2019 15:00:37 GMT 1
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 6, 2019 15:00:37 GMT 1
Thought Flo was considerably better than Kongolo yesterday, and Flo didn't cost £17m. Pritchard was drifting infield leaving kongolo with very few options as nobody was really around to support him. Flo to be fair did get in to some attacking positions second half, i think he had limited support too but not to the same extent. Kongolo is a centre half and a great one at that, not a fullback. Defensively flo got done a few times. What shocked me most though was that he went off the pitch injured only once!!! Like I put on another thread we need an overlapping fullback on the left with Pritchard and a steady fullback on the right to allow Diakhaby to push forward and we've got the opposite. |
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 6, 2019 17:43:43 GMT 1
Really don’t get the hatred for Flo, showed for the ball time and time again last night, In fact was pretty much the only out ball for much of the night. Not his fault if there’s no one in the box to receive a cross is it? He works his arse off for the team and as far as I can see doesn’t give the ball away more than anyone else. Not sure where this pack mentality hatred of him has come from but it’s pretty ugly.
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Aug 6, 2019 17:45:02 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 6, 2019 17:45:02 GMT 1
Really don’t get the hatred for Flo, showed for the ball time and time again last night, In fact was pretty much the only out ball for much of the night. Not his fault if there’s no one in the box to receive a cross is it? He works his arse off for the team and as far as I can see doesn’t give the ball away more than anyone else. Not sure where this pack mentality hatred of him has come from but it’s pretty ugly. IF there is no one in the box surely the most sensible option is not to cross it ? There is a footballer in there but he's brain dead sometimes |
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Post by Melc on Aug 6, 2019 17:54:15 GMT 1
Give one of the younger players a chance cant be worse! I thought he did well to be honest. Yes he does hit the first man at times, but putting crosses into the box when at times no body gets into the box does not help. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 6, 2019 17:59:30 GMT 1
Really don’t get the hatred for Flo, showed for the ball time and time again last night, In fact was pretty much the only out ball for much of the night. Not his fault if there’s no one in the box to receive a cross is it? He works his arse off for the team and as far as I can see doesn’t give the ball away more than anyone else. Not sure where this pack mentality hatred of him has come from but it’s pretty ugly. One thing is for sure he is by far the fittest player we have... He never stopped. Major concerns watching Mooy, Bacuna and Grant gasping for breath after 20 mins. |
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 6, 2019 18:01:55 GMT 1
Really don’t get the hatred for Flo, showed for the ball time and time again last night, In fact was pretty much the only out ball for much of the night. Not his fault if there’s no one in the box to receive a cross is it? He works his arse off for the team and as far as I can see doesn’t give the ball away more than anyone else. Not sure where this pack mentality hatred of him has come from but it’s pretty ugly. IF there is no one in the box surely the most sensible option is not to cross it ? There is a footballer in there but he's brain dead sometimes He did that probably once? Most of the time he recycled it competently and waited for play to catch up. Damned if he does damned if he doesn’t as far as I can see. Lots of players gave the ball away more cheaply last night but this opprobrium persists. Unwarranted and embarrassing to witch hunt one of our own like this if you ask me. |
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 6, 2019 18:02:08 GMT 1
Give one of the younger players a chance cant be worse! I thought he did well to be honest. Yes he does hit the first man at times, but putting crosses into the box when at times no body gets into the box does not help. Yes. I thought Flo was one of our better performers. But unlike Derby we had nobody getting into the opposing box. |
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Aug 6, 2019 18:02:54 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 6, 2019 18:02:54 GMT 1
Really don’t get the hatred for Flo, showed for the ball time and time again last night, In fact was pretty much the only out ball for much of the night. Not his fault if there’s no one in the box to receive a cross is it? He works his arse off for the team and as far as I can see doesn’t give the ball away more than anyone else. Not sure where this pack mentality hatred of him has come from but it’s pretty ugly. IF there is no one in the box surely the most sensible option is not to cross it ? There is a footballer in there but he's brain dead sometimes Why bother getting the ball wide at all then, just let Mooy and Hogg pass 5 yards to each other til they lose it cos no one bothers supporting Grant like they didn't Mounie |
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Flo
Aug 6, 2019 18:05:51 GMT 1
Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 6, 2019 18:05:51 GMT 1
Shouldn't diakhaby been over there more to take the ball from Flo, rather him having to hit so many hopeful crosses.
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Post by thongsbridge on Aug 7, 2019 10:20:57 GMT 1
Not as bad as many on here make out. Put quite a few crosses in last night which didn't look great but only because no one attacked them. For instance: 87th minute floated one across to the back post 6 yards out. Mbenza should have come in and attacked it but sat back. Flo, rather than Mbenza, took the flack. There are other instances where the rest of the team let Flo down.
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Aug 7, 2019 10:35:47 GMT 1
Post by CaptainHart on Aug 7, 2019 10:35:47 GMT 1
Shouldn't diakhaby been over there more to take the ball from Flo, rather him having to hit so many hopeful crosses. I've put this on a few threads but the answer is no. Both Flo and Diakhaby need space to run into, if Diakhaby's there he keeps the fullback there effectively closing the space down. |
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Aug 7, 2019 10:37:08 GMT 1
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Post by mids on Aug 7, 2019 10:37:08 GMT 1
Not as bad as many on here make out. Put quite a few crosses in last night which didn't look great but only because no one attacked them No point putting in decent crosses 24hrs after the game he should have been doing it in  |
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Aug 7, 2019 10:37:43 GMT 1
Post by kennyk2 on Aug 7, 2019 10:37:43 GMT 1
Shouldn't diakhaby been over there more to take the ball from Flo, rather him having to hit so many hopeful crosses. I've put this on a few threads but the answer is no. Both Flo and Diakhaby need space to run into, if Diakhaby's there he keeps the fullback there effectively closing the space down. He can't do it all by himself down that wing, he needs some support. Will be an important player for us this time. |
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Post by Uddersfield on Aug 7, 2019 10:54:19 GMT 1
Shouldn't diakhaby been over there more to take the ball from Flo, rather him having to hit so many hopeful crosses. I've put this on a few threads but the answer is no. Both Flo and Diakhaby need space to run into, if Diakhaby's there he keeps the fullback there effectively closing the space down. Diakhaby and Flo should never be starting on the same side, we've got no defence when their both on the flank. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 7, 2019 10:57:54 GMT 1
I've put this on a few threads but the answer is no. Both Flo and Diakhaby need space to run into, if Diakhaby's there he keeps the fullback there effectively closing the space down. He can't do it all by himself down that wing, he needs some support. Will be an important player for us this time. I agree, it's not Diakhaby though, as someone else suggested Pritchard would be a better fit. |
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Aug 7, 2019 10:58:09 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 10:58:09 GMT 1
Really don’t get the hatred for Flo, showed for the ball time and time again last night, In fact was pretty much the only out ball for much of the night. Not his fault if there’s no one in the box to receive a cross is it? He works his arse off for the team and as far as I can see doesn’t give the ball away more than anyone else. Not sure where this pack mentality hatred of him has come from but it’s pretty ugly. One thing is for sure he is by far the fittest player we have... He never stopped. Major concerns watching Mooy, Bacuna and Grant gasping for breath after 20 mins. Football clubs shouldn’t sign smokers. |
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Post by villageidiot on Aug 7, 2019 11:03:47 GMT 1
Really don’t get the hatred for Flo, showed for the ball time and time again last night, In fact was pretty much the only out ball for much of the night. Not his fault if there’s no one in the box to receive a cross is it? He works his arse off for the team and as far as I can see doesn’t give the ball away more than anyone else. Not sure where this pack mentality hatred of him has come from but it’s pretty ugly. One thing is for sure he is by far the fittest player we have... He never stopped.
Major concerns watching Mooy, Bacuna and Grant gasping for breath after 20 mins. I suggest you take a look at the incident where our centre half and goalkeeper collided. He had lost the ball in the final third and proceeded to amble back (walking not jogging) .. the physios beat him back into our penalty area. The 'injury' was another example..if play is going on (which it was) unless you have a broken leg you make an effort to get back - he rolled around and then with application of the magic sponge made a miraculous recovery. he loves bombing forward but when possession is lost he doesn't seem to have the same enthusiasm to get back and do his core job which is to defend. I will concede his job is made by the fact he is paired with a buffoon on the wing that hasnt got a footballing brain - in terms of tucking in and covering when he bombs forward. I suspect this is why Terrence doesn't do the same or as often because he knows he will be exposed defensively |
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Post by Camel Grabber on Aug 7, 2019 11:04:53 GMT 1
Not as bad as many on here make out. Put quite a few crosses in last night which didn't look great but only because no one attacked them. For instance: 87th minute floated one across to the back post 6 yards out. Mbenza should have come in and attacked it but sat back. Flo, rather than Mbenza, took the flack. There are other instances where the rest of the team let Flo down. 100% agree..... might get pelters here but had mounie been playing, Flo put in 2 dream crosses for someone with his Arial ability. Whether he would have put them away is a different matter. Don't get this hate of Flo, work rate always 100%. Yes he had a shocker of a season last year but didn't everyone? His first season he knocked Smith out and was one of our best players |
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