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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 6, 2019 17:37:13 GMT 1
What’s to stop you getting one: - more night games (just love walking down to the JSS with the floodlights streaming down; call me an old sentimentalist) Why do some people continually refer to more night games as being a bonus. ....It's quite clear from the significant fall in attendances (both in terms of gate and more importantly bodies in the ground) that a significant number don't or can't enjoy night games... This includes shift workers, people currently living outside the area, those in jobs were you can't always guarantee leaving on time, families with children with non-footballing comittments, young children etc. etc.(and bloody) etc. PS Never ever ever understood why in the 21st century some people are excited by an electric light but each to their own. I used to like night games when I was younger but now they are an utter pain in the arse, especially if you've been at work all day.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 6, 2019 17:43:35 GMT 1
Maybe Im being too optimistic but I just cant believe anyone who was watching this club over 2 or 3 years ago ( ie- before the 'glory years' ) , wouldn;t be able to temper their current disappointment with a realisation of what Town actually is- a lower to middling championship club. Are people really so fickle that they'll end their support because of a few disastrous months at a level we never imagined we'd reach? Bit sad if they do. Some might, but surely the bulk will have a bit more understanding and empathy.. and loyalty. The majority will, but there'll be a reasonable amount that won't and of those that will some will then stink the place out now their expectations have risen. Interesting how people will react. My father in law is a lifelong chicken fan. Started watching them in the 50s so most of that time they were utter crap. Not even the best club in bradford and constantly struggling at the arse end of Div 4. He watched their 2 season in the prem, then the following season, which he found a struggle to keep his enthusiasm, then lost interest and stopped going. Just couldn;t motivate himself because they'd 'done it' and for him that was the impossible dream tat would never be repeated and left nothing else to dream about. Bit different for us now though because of parachute payments and of course the chickens got themselves into a financial mess trying to stay in the prem that Dean won;t allow to happen.
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Post by capitalterrier on Jan 6, 2019 17:44:53 GMT 1
Agree with most of that the Sheff Utd are down the road, not up 😉 man city have a buy back clause so iv heard Yes. 20m
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Post by davethesprout on Jan 6, 2019 17:50:59 GMT 1
Some posters on FB are now moaning that ‘fans have been treated like shit by the board’. All because of squad investment. Yes, it’s been diabolical, but the fans have really been looked after in all respects apart from squad strengthening. Absolutely flabbergasted with the reaction post Christmas by so many. Spot on Post ! Not been Overcharged ! we have been looked after by the club Money Wise for years Also Spot on About squad investment that as been worse than diabolical, I Just Wonder How Many of our New Found Fans ? Will stay Next year ! 1972 When we went Down we soon got back to the loyal 10000 To be Honest that was all we were Getting start of the 1969/70 season when we went up ! Averaged 17000 from a late season surge when we went up ! Then we Averaged 27000 first season in Division 1 When we went Down We Lost ? all the glory Hunters Then down to 10000 Think We will be Lucky to get 15000 Card holders next year !to be Honest
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Jan 6, 2019 17:53:47 GMT 1
Going to be a big effort to move these. Wonder what the incentives will be for early purchasers, if any? No effort required from me and my clan. Your right though figures will certainly drop
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 6, 2019 17:55:08 GMT 1
The majority will, but there'll be a reasonable amount that won't and of those that will some will then stink the place out now their expectations have risen. Interesting how people will react. My father in law is a lifelong chicken fan. Started watching them in the 50s so most of that time they were utter crap. Not even the best club in bradford and constantly struggling at the arse end of Div 4. He watched their 2 season in the prem, then the following season, which he found a struggle to keep his enthusiasm, then lost interest and stopped going. Just couldn;t motivate himself because they'd 'done it' and for him that was the impossible dream tat would never be repeated and left nothing else to dream about. Bit different for us now though because of parachute payments and of course the chickens got themselves into a financial mess trying to stay in the prem that Dean won;t allow to happen. True and I have a feeling I posted something yonks ago saying I could see this happening, despite the amount of people saying they expected to get relegated after one season and wouldn't grumble. For me, going to footy is a much a social thing, so I will no doubt keep going and will also likely increase the amount of away games I go to. For those who are purely interested in the match, I can understand an apathy to a degree, but there is a chance we will be better equipped to challenge for an automatic promotion than we've been since at least the League One days.
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Post by zoso on Jan 6, 2019 18:03:36 GMT 1
Going to be a big effort to move these. Wonder what the incentives will be for early purchasers, if any? No effort required from me and my clan. Your right though figures will certainly drop Yes they will, but I'm having one though, same as I have for the last 30 odd years regardless of which division we're in, or who the manager is. When it's in your blood, it's in your blood..... TTID and all that!! UTT.
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Post by Stiggy on Jan 6, 2019 20:50:20 GMT 1
With the majority of our fans been spoilt fickle bast*rds I doubt the club will be that bothered about selling a load of tickets to them.
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Post by haveitback on Jan 6, 2019 21:00:47 GMT 1
With the majority of our fans been spoilt fickle bast*rds I doubt the club will be that bothered about selling a load of tickets to them. Don't agree with you here Jimmy sorry, I don't Wagner to go I want him to turn this bad run around and be a success and be with Town for many years to come, However after the bad run of consecutive losses and poor very poor performances and the poor recruitment (whoever is to blame for it) I can understand why fans are moaning which I guess is what you are getting at, I wouldn't say that makes the spoilt or fickle Bast*rds and you imo are wrong to imply that.
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Post by townrwe on Jan 6, 2019 21:07:52 GMT 1
I reckon anything other than £149 for adults and £49 for kids will be a mistake... We need everyone to renew, we need a full stadium.
It would be easy not to renew given the terrible home form and distinct lack of entertainment...
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Post by Jack on Jan 6, 2019 21:28:01 GMT 1
You could use £3m of the greedy league money to give every current season ticket holder a free one next year and there would still be some folk not happy.
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Post by aca00js on Jan 6, 2019 21:32:06 GMT 1
If the results pick up and we finish with a fight then a don't think numbers will drop too much. Could also see some kind of offer a long the lines "If we go back up then next season ticket would be reduced e.g. £199"
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 6, 2019 21:40:03 GMT 1
Most town fans minds are made up anyway in regards to renewing. I hope the team can pull us out of the shit because it's been nice having a full ground.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 6, 2019 21:41:18 GMT 1
I reckon anything other than £149 for adults and £49 for kids will be a mistake... We need everyone to renew, we need a full stadium. It would be easy not to renew given the terrible home form and distinct lack of entertainment... Sell up Deano - don't be pandering to absolute weapons who want you to spend a fortune on players on one hand and on the next demand by far the cheapest tickets in the Championship. And you wonder why 'spoilt brats' gets brought up so often.
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Post by townrwe on Jan 6, 2019 22:07:58 GMT 1
I reckon anything other than £149 for adults and £49 for kids will be a mistake... We need everyone to renew, we need a full stadium. It would be easy not to renew given the terrible home form and distinct lack of entertainment... Sell up Deano - don't be pandering to absolute weapons who want you to spend a fortune on players on one hand and on the next demand by far the cheapest tickets in the Championship. And you wonder why 'spoilt brats' gets brought up so often. Put them up to 300 and half the numbers.... sad i know, but that's the reality.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jan 6, 2019 22:11:07 GMT 1
Sell up Deano - don't be pandering to absolute weapons who want you to spend a fortune on players on one hand and on the next demand by far the cheapest tickets in the Championship. And you wonder why 'spoilt brats' gets brought up so often. Put them up to 300 and half the numbers.... sad i know, but that's the reality. Why not just freeze them. Happy medium. You can spend £150 in one night on the piss!
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Post by drfootball on Jan 6, 2019 22:11:34 GMT 1
I reckon anything other than £149 for adults and £49 for kids will be a mistake... We need everyone to renew, we need a full stadium. It would be easy not to renew given the terrible home form and distinct lack of entertainment... Too cheap I’m afraid I feel a £199-229 for adults and £99 for kids deal in the offing
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Post by townrwe on Jan 6, 2019 22:18:37 GMT 1
Sell up Deano - don't be pandering to absolute weapons who want you to spend a fortune on players on one hand and on the next demand by far the cheapest tickets in the Championship. And you wonder why 'spoilt brats' gets brought up so often. Put them up to 300 and half the numbers.... sad i know, but that's the reality. Nigel Cibbins and I had a conversation about ticket prices and he said the price of tickets didn't change the number sold.... total bollox, hence selling 18000 from 9000 when we dropped prices £130.... plus all the extra shirts and revenues. The price of the season tickets is not really the issue. It's getting the stadium full to sell advertising, getting the stadium full to encourage business owners to partner, selling shirts, car parking, facilities, canalside. 12000 vs 20000. The opportunities are greater with 20000 supporters.... your even more likely to find the next Dean Hoyle.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jan 6, 2019 23:57:19 GMT 1
Going to be a big effort to move these. Wonder what the incentives will be for early purchasers, if any? I would buy mine now at this years rates, happily.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jan 7, 2019 8:40:34 GMT 1
man city have a buy back clause so iv heard Yes. 20m It's 24m, we also have to pay them 22% on any profit we make unless city buys him back. So selling him back to them would probably yield the largest profit.
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Post by royrace on Jan 7, 2019 10:12:33 GMT 1
Next season, if things are done right (its a big if bearing in mind recent decisions), we should be one of the best teams in the championship with one of the bigger budgets, that is totally unprecedented for Town so there is plenty of attraction for the proper long term fan next season.
Not sure how we'll get bums on seats for the rest of this season though, is anyone looking forward to Man City?! This season is the stuff of nightmares, keeping me awake at night already and we've been playing the relegation fodder around us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 10:38:52 GMT 1
It's 24m, we also have to pay them 22% on any profit we make unless city buys him back. So selling him back to them would probably yield the largest profit. City aren’t going to spend £24m on Mooy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 10:45:47 GMT 1
It's 24m, we also have to pay them 22% on any profit we make unless city buys him back. So selling him back to them would probably yield the largest profit. City aren’t going to spend £24m on Mooy! They might if they can then sell him on for £35m
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jan 7, 2019 10:46:08 GMT 1
correct @nt
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jan 7, 2019 10:46:18 GMT 1
if we go down then we might need an incentive price. If we stay up then we could just freeze prices.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 7, 2019 10:46:32 GMT 1
It's 24m, we also have to pay them 22% on any profit we make unless city buys him back. So selling him back to them would probably yield the largest profit. City aren’t going to spend £24m on Mooy! Only if they could then immediately sell him on to another club and make a profit. I doubt they would be able to at those figures.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 10:46:48 GMT 1
It's 24m, we also have to pay them 22% on any profit we make unless city buys him back. So selling him back to them would probably yield the largest profit. City aren’t going to spend £24m on Mooy! Yeah exactly. If the price was lower that would be the only way they could achieve a profit, but unless the transfer market goes bananas in the summer, surely nobody would be looking at paying above £24m for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 10:47:41 GMT 1
The majority will, but there'll be a reasonable amount that won't and of those that will some will then stink the place out now their expectations have risen. Interesting how people will react. My father in law is a lifelong chicken fan. Started watching them in the 50s so most of that time they were utter crap. Not even the best club in bradford and constantly struggling at the arse end of Div 4. He watched their 2 season in the prem, then the following season, which he found a struggle to keep his enthusiasm, then lost interest and stopped going. Just couldn;t motivate himself because they'd 'done it' and for him that was the impossible dream tat would never be repeated and left nothing else to dream about. Bit different for us now though because of parachute payments and of course the chickens got themselves into a financial mess trying to stay in the prem that Dean won;t allow to happen. Must admit that the Championship promotion campaign and bits of last season did feel a bit like, “this is as good as it will ever get”, and it’s history now. Being honest, I’m not 100% sure I can really summon the enthusiasm to continue the journey. I’ve been a season ticket holder since 95 (barring two seasons) and a regular since the 80s...so definitely watched and supported through much worse times...but that was always with the backdrop of the hope of a future impossible dream. (throw in that my lad, who has been going since age 3 has lost interest now at age 18...a lot of the reasons I’ve kept going over some of the rubbish recent times are because it’s something we do together...remove that and it’s another “reason” to just commit the football time to some of the other stuff that I do).
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 10:48:10 GMT 1
City aren’t going to spend £24m on Mooy! They might if they can then sell him on for £35m Nobody is going to offer them £35m.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2019 10:58:12 GMT 1
They might if they can then sell him on for £35m Nobody is going to offer them £35m. I agree unless Mooy has an absolute stormer over the next few months.
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