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Post by royrace on Feb 19, 2019 12:30:54 GMT 1
Ince a useless journeyman eh. Ok. I said characterwise he was on a par with those two, I thought it was widely known he was a great pro at town but you seem to have missed it. If diakbenza have as good an impact in the Championship as Ince has over the years I think we'll all be happy. If they do better we'll be ecstatic. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Didn't miss it. Just don't believe it.
'Great attacking threat' - but never tries to beat his man - 'helps out defensively' - but fewer tackles per game than VLP - 'great team player' - with no assists in his bloody position (and only 3 in over 2000 minutes this season at a level he's meant to be so good at).
He's not a 'great pro'. He's the bloke at work you see going from A to B with a box in his hand, and then 20 minutes later from B to A. Looks busy. No use. Stealing a living on past glories.
You don't believe it, I didn't think you would based on the fact you're making it up as you go along. You must know Ince better than all the footballing staff down at Town. If only the likes of Derby, Palace, Hull, Stoke and Town could have called on your expertise and insight they could have saved themselves literally millions of pounds they wasted on this useless journeyman stealing a living on past glories at the age of 27. Funny thing at the same time you see something in the two players who have been the biggest pound for pound waste of money this club has ever signed. Bizarre. Have a look at the stats, if Mbenza and Adama had amassed stats like Ince did the previous season its highly likely we'd still be in with a fighting chance of staying up. Love the fact you're slating 6 goals and 3 assists, those are stats any Town player this season could only dream of as are Inces stats from last season Is that you Olaf?
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 19, 2019 12:54:36 GMT 1
Didn't miss it. Just don't believe it. 'Great attacking threat' - but never tries to beat his man - 'helps out defensively' - but fewer tackles per game than VLPΒ - 'great team player' - with no assists in his bloody position (and only 3 in over 2000 minutes this season at a level he's meant to be so good at). He's not a 'great pro'. He's the bloke at work you see going from A to B with a box in his hand, and then 20 minutes later from B to A. Looks busy. No use. Stealing a living on past glories.
You don't believe it, I didn't think you would based on the fact you're making it up as you go along. You must know Ince better than all the footballing staff down at Town. If only the likes of Derby, Palace, Hull, Stoke and Town could have called on your expertise and insight they could have saved themselves literally millions of pounds they wasted on this useless journeyman stealing a living on past glories at the age of 27. Funny thing at the same time you see something in the two players who have been the biggest pound for pound waste of money this club has ever signed. Bizarre. Have a look at the stats, if Mbenza and Adama had amassed stats like Ince did the previous season its highly likely we'd still be in with a fighting chance of staying up. Love the fact you're slating 6 goals and 3 assists, those are stats any Town player this season could only dream of as are Inces stats from last season Is that you Olaf? Well they've already got more assists than Ince did for Town π
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Post by bacuna on Feb 19, 2019 13:57:45 GMT 1
Didn't miss it. Just don't believe it.
'Great attacking threat' - but never tries to beat his man - 'helps out defensively' - but fewer tackles per game than VLP - 'great team player' - with no assists in his bloody position (and only 3 in over 2000 minutes this season at a level he's meant to be so good at).
He's not a 'great pro'. He's the bloke at work you see going from A to B with a box in his hand, and then 20 minutes later from B to A. Looks busy. No use. Stealing a living on past glories.
You don't believe it, I didn't think you would based on the fact you're making it up as you go along. You must know Ince better than all the footballing staff down at Town. If only the likes of Derby, Palace, Hull, Stoke and Town could have called on your expertise and insight they could have saved themselves literally millions of pounds they wasted on this useless journeyman stealing a living on past glories at the age of 27. Funny thing at the same time you see something in the two players who have been the biggest pound for pound waste of money this club has ever signed. Bizarre. Have a look at the stats, if Mbenza and Adama had amassed stats like Ince did the previous season its highly likely we'd still be in with a fighting chance of staying up. Love the fact you're slating 6 goals and 3 assists, those are stats any Town player this season could only dream of as are Inces stats from last season Is that you Olaf? no way was he sold without Wagner's say so, don't think those guys rate him like you do π
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 18:50:21 GMT 1
Massive mistake letting Ince go imo. I could have understood if we had signed an upgrade but we clearly did not do that. (By that I mean someone ready to go straight into the first team) He was a constant threat last season and I thought very unlucky with his finishing on a number of occasions. Examples of players we should of signed? Should of we?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 18:57:38 GMT 1
Examples of players we should of signed? Should of we? Have course!
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Post by royrace on Feb 19, 2019 20:00:48 GMT 1
You don't believe it, I didn't think you would based on the fact you're making it up as you go along. You must know Ince better than all the footballing staff down at Town. If only the likes of Derby, Palace, Hull, Stoke and Town could have called on your expertise and insight they could have saved themselves literally millions of pounds they wasted on this useless journeyman stealing a living on past glories at the age of 27. Funny thing at the same time you see something in the two players who have been the biggest pound for pound waste of money this club has ever signed. Bizarre. Have a look at the stats, if Mbenza and Adama had amassed stats like Ince did the previous season its highly likely we'd still be in with a fighting chance of staying up. Love the fact you're slating 6 goals and 3 assists, those are stats any Town player this season could only dream of as are Inces stats from last season Is that you Olaf? no way was he sold without Wagner's say so, don't think those guys rate him like you do π Yeah they must have all thought he was shit to pay Β£8M for him then play him almost every game. I thought we were discussing his attitude anyway after you insinuated he was a poor character. Wrong again on both counts.
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Post by bacuna on Feb 19, 2019 20:28:57 GMT 1
no way was he sold without Wagner's say so, don't think those guys rate him like you do π Yeah they must have all thought he was shit to pay Β£8M for him then play him almost every game. I thought we were discussing his attitude anyway after you insinuated he was a poor character. Wrong again on both counts. Aw bless. I didn't insinuate anything. I said it. His character is shit Here's what the Stoke fans think of the guy you say would be a real battler in a club dealing with having been relegated. Every line is another person Lazy showpony..... In his head he thinks heβs Ronaldo. Ince is wank a luxury we can not afford, Tom Ince only plays for Tom Ince. Bang average journeyman He's conned a living. no will or bollocks. Ince is a lightweight Stealing a living. More clubs than a baby seal hunter. That's just from the first page of the thread. I'll add one more. If you want a fighter, don't go for a 27 year old still living in daddies shadow
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Post by htfcsince70 on Feb 19, 2019 21:08:00 GMT 1
Ince contributed more in his one season in the Premier League than Diakhaby and Mbenza have done between them! Neither of these two have been worth whatever we paid for them - I've no idea what anyone saw in either of them ( other than a 15 min DVD) I hope that I am wrong and they prove to be great players - but I doubt it!
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 19, 2019 21:13:20 GMT 1
Ince contributed more in his one season in the Premier League than Diakhaby and Mbenza have done between them! Neither of these two have been worth whatever we paid for them - I've no idea what anyone saw in either of them ( other than a 15 min DVD) I hope that I am wrong and they prove to be great players - but I doubt it! They only need to score one each to have upstaged Ince with his 2 league goals and no assists
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Post by ambryboy on Feb 19, 2019 21:22:06 GMT 1
I was quite looking forward to seeing Ince play for us this season having had a full pre-season under his belt but it was not to be. Comparing him with Mbenza and Diakhaby is a bit pointless but it helps to fill these long gaps between games I suppose.
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Post by htfcsince70 on Feb 19, 2019 23:45:49 GMT 1
Ince contributed more in his one season in the Premier League than Diakhaby and Mbenza have done between them! Neither of these two have been worth whatever we paid for them - I've no idea what anyone saw in either of them ( other than a 15 min DVD) I hope that I am wrong and they prove to be great players - but I doubt it! They only need to score one each to have upstaged Ince with his 2 league goals and no assists I hope that they do but to upstage him individually they would have to score 2 each or 3 to better him - no chance!
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Post by tobbyg on Feb 20, 2019 0:27:56 GMT 1
Yeah they must have all thought he was shit to pay Β£8M for him then play him almost every game. I thought we were discussing his attitude anyway after you insinuated he was a poor character. Wrong again on both counts. Aw bless. I didn't insinuate anything. I said it. His character is shit Here's what the Stoke fans think of the guy you say would be a real battler in a club dealing with having been relegated. Every line is another person Lazy showpony..... In his head he thinks heβs Ronaldo. Ince is wank a luxury we can not afford, Tom Ince only plays for Tom Ince. Bang average journeyman He's conned a living. no will or bollocks. Ince is a lightweight Stealing a living. More clubs than a baby seal hunter. That's just from the first page of the thread. I'll add one more. If you want a fighter, don't go for a 27 year old still living in daddies shadow That sounds like the total opposite of what he was like here, itβs what I worried about myself when we signed him. I couldnβt have been more wrong really, expected him to come with guaranteed quality which wasnβt there but the attitude always seemed 100%.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 1:00:26 GMT 1
Aw bless. I didn't insinuate anything. I said it. His character is shit Here's what the Stoke fans think of the guy you say would be a real battler in a club dealing with having been relegated. Every line is another person Lazy showpony..... In his head he thinks heβs Ronaldo. Ince is wank a luxury we can not afford, Tom Ince only plays for Tom Ince. Bang average journeyman He's conned a living. no will or bollocks. Ince is a lightweight Stealing a living. More clubs than a baby seal hunter. That's just from the first page of the thread. I'll add one more. If you want a fighter, don't go for a 27 year old still living in daddies shadow That sounds like the total opposite of what he was like here, itβs what I worried about myself when we signed him. I couldnβt have been more wrong really, expected him to come with guaranteed quality which wasnβt there but the attitude always seemed 100%. Couldn't agree more. I expected attitude but his conduuct was first class. He came over in interviews as a articulate professional.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 1:02:03 GMT 1
That sounds like the total opposite of what he was like here, itβs what I worried about myself when we signed him. I couldnβt have been more wrong really, expected him to come with guaranteed quality which wasnβt there but the attitude always seemed 100%. Couldn't agree more. I expected attitude but his conduuct was first class. He came over in interviews as a articulate professional. Unlike my phone typing
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Post by royrace on Feb 20, 2019 10:07:52 GMT 1
Yeah they must have all thought he was shit to pay Β£8M for him then play him almost every game. I thought we were discussing his attitude anyway after you insinuated he was a poor character. Wrong again on both counts. Aw bless. I didn't insinuate anything. I said it. His character is shit Here's what the Stoke fans think of the guy you say would be a real battler in a club dealing with having been relegated. Every line is another person Lazy showpony..... In his head he thinks heβs Ronaldo. Ince is wank a luxury we can not afford, Tom Ince only plays for Tom Ince. Bang average journeyman He's conned a living. no will or bollocks. Ince is a lightweight Stealing a living. More clubs than a baby seal hunter. That's just from the first page of the thread. I'll add one more. If you want a fighter, don't go for a 27 year old still living in daddies shadow You're wrong. Yours is the perception most Town fans had before he signed, you must have missed last season. Probably best not to get your facts from the message board of a struggling, under achieving just relegated team.
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 20, 2019 11:49:02 GMT 1
Ince is not a Premier League player, don't see how anyone can argue that fact. He's just not quick enough. His goal and assist return last season were poor, especially for someone who played 37 games. He keeps getting chances at this level and keeps falling back. I dont think he'll get another unless he plays for a side promoted from the Championship.
Having said that I also don't see how anyone could criticise his attitude or workrate in a Town shirt. He never gave anything less than 100%, played out of position a fair bit to help the team and tracked back just as well as every other wideman. He seems a good lad who gets grief purely cos of his Dad being a chode - Guilty by association. His contribution from that perspective last season was great. Nobody should have any ill will towards him.
Diakhabys performance v Arsenal taken in isolation was better than anything Ince produced last season, it's just a shame its taken us until February to get to that point. I have no problem with signing Diakhaby and selling Ince, especially at a profit. The problem was not signing someone else as well as Diakhaby, who would take Ince's spot in the side and who you 100% knew was better and Premier League capable.
We should have signed Diakhaby or Mbenza not both and put the money from one plus more into a genuine Premier League winger in his prime. That said, theres still a fair chance we'd have got relegated anyway given the shit storm of bad luck on and off the pitch we've been hit with this season.
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Post by bacuna on Feb 20, 2019 13:12:12 GMT 1
Aw bless. I didn't insinuate anything. I said it. His character is shit Here's what the Stoke fans think of the guy you say would be a real battler in a club dealing with having been relegated. Every line is another person Lazy showpony..... In his head he thinks heβs Ronaldo. Ince is wank a luxury we can not afford, Tom Ince only plays for Tom Ince. Bang average journeyman He's conned a living. no will or bollocks. Ince is a lightweight Stealing a living. More clubs than a baby seal hunter. That's just from the first page of the thread. I'll add one more. If you want a fighter, don't go for a 27 year old still living in daddies shadow You're wrong. Yours is the perception most Town fans had before he signed, you must have missed last season. Probably best not to get your facts from the message board of a struggling, under achieving just relegated team. They're struggling and underachieving because they followed your policy of spunking stupid money on players who are 'proven at that level'.
There's a huge difference between coming across well in a team that is already achieving more than its fans thought was possible, and having the character needed to battle when the chips are down.
I thought well of him until West Ham at home, when I had this same argument with my mate except I was on your side then. I still thought Ince would 'come good', especially if he wasn't played out of position, but my mate was sure it was never gonna happen. Said Ince does his bit but never does more, never really puts himself on the line. He was right.
BTW, you do know this is the message board of a struggling side too, right? π
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Post by yellowbelly on Feb 20, 2019 13:14:05 GMT 1
Yeah they must have all thought he was shit to pay Β£8M for him then play him almost every game. I thought we were discussing his attitude anyway after you insinuated he was a poor character. Wrong again on both counts. Aw bless. I didn't insinuate anything. I said it. His character is shit Here's what the Stoke fans think of the guy you say would be a real battler in a club dealing with having been relegated. Every line is another person Lazy showpony..... In his head he thinks heβs Ronaldo. Ince is wank a luxury we can not afford, Tom Ince only plays for Tom Ince. Bang average journeyman He's conned a living. no will or bollocks. Ince is a lightweight Stealing a living. More clubs than a baby seal hunter. That's just from the first page of the thread. I'll add one more. If you want a fighter, don't go for a 27 year old still living in daddies shadow Just shows what a load of ignorant w*nkers football fans are. Oh wait a minute
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Post by royrace on Feb 20, 2019 13:31:48 GMT 1
You're wrong. Yours is the perception most Town fans had before he signed, you must have missed last season. Probably best not to get your facts from the message board of a struggling, under achieving just relegated team. They're struggling and underachieving because they followed your policy of spunking stupid money on players who are 'proven at that level'.
There's a huge difference between coming across well in a team that is already achieving more than its fans thought was possible, and having the character needed to battle when the chips are down.
I thought well of him until West Ham at home, when I had this same argument with my mate except I was on your side then. I still thought Ince would 'come good', especially if he wasn't played out of position, but my mate was sure it was never gonna happen. Said Ince does his bit but never does more, never really puts himself on the line. He was right.
BTW, you do know this is the message board of a struggling side too, right? π
My policy?! What are you on about. I think you're confusing me with someone else. I think this discussion started by you saying we'll be far better in the championship with Mbenza and Diakhaby rather than 'journeyman' players like Ince which is utter nonsense and completely baseless. You talk about spunking money on players like Ince whilst singing the praises of 2 players who cost Β£20M combined who have achieved absolutely fook all in England, barely played any first team games and are probably the reason we'll be relegated. Ince was WAY more effective that those 2 last season but then again you could also argue that Collin Quaner was. People are fantasising Diakbenza maybe great in the champ based on nothing at all. Inces quality at that level is proven, as is Pritchards. I hope everyone's dreams that Diakbenza will tear the championship apart come true but a few good corners, one good cross and one great performance against a below par Arsenal team when coasting at 2-0 doesn't have me quite as confident as some on here. One thing is for absolute certain and that's unless we are forced to buy Mbenza at that price he wont be here anyway. I think Dean will be expecting a bit more for his 13M english pounds somehow.
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Post by bacuna on Feb 20, 2019 14:03:28 GMT 1
My policy?! What are you on about. This: Ince, a good example of a player who IS worth Β£12M in this market I disagreed and said he isn't worth it because he isn't. Not even close. I never said we should spend Β£12 or Β£13 or whatever million on Mbenza either. I think the lad has got a bit of something but for what its worth I agree he hasn't shown us that sort of value. That said, Jan is gonna have a chance to see exactly what the lad would look like playing his way. If he really thought it was worth it, then it would be a bit less risky than most such transfers. I'd still rather we went back to the sort of buying and attitude that got us promoted though. Focussed on the team not billy big-bollocks individuals. Definitely think there's a place Diakhaby in that too, and he's already here.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 21, 2019 17:18:09 GMT 1
From todays press conference
Mel Booth just asked Jan Siewert if he has worked with many players as fast as Diakhaby.
His answer: βNot many... maybe Isaac Mbenza.β π
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Post by Ross83 on Feb 24, 2019 0:23:13 GMT 1
Does anybody know how long Diakhaby is out for?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 27, 2019 21:46:49 GMT 1
Anyone know how long he is out?
Tog could have asked him last night but was too busy mocking his clothes
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Post by Ross83 on Feb 27, 2019 22:28:18 GMT 1
Anyone know how long he is out? Tog could have asked him last night but was too busy mocking his clothes Pretty certain Siewert said a couple of weeks..
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 27, 2019 22:40:39 GMT 1
Anyone know how long he is out? Tog could have asked him last night but was too busy mocking his clothes Pretty certain Siewert said a couple of weeks.. For him to get a new outfit?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2019 23:01:10 GMT 1
Anyone know how long he is out? Tog could have asked him last night but was too busy mocking his clothes
Tog is right to mock him,, Looked like a Jeremy Kyle contestant.
Non playing squad members are representing the club, They should be smartly dressed, If I was in charge I would make the lads wear a funky HTFC club blazer,, Made in Huddersfield of course.
I recall Quaner last year in skin tight jeans, only halfway over his arse, And the most ridiculous oversized, Clown like basketball boots.
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Feb 27, 2019 23:07:06 GMT 1
Anyone know how long he is out? Tog could have asked him last night but was too busy mocking his clothes
Tog is right to mock him,, Looked like a Jeremy Kyle contestant.
Non playing squad members are representing the club, They should be smartly dressed, If I was in charge I would make the lads wear a funky HTFC club blazer,, Made in Huddersfield of course.
I recall Quaner last year in skin tight jeans, only halfway over his arse, And the most ridiculous oversized, Clown like basketball boots.
They were his actual football boots
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Post by space hardware on Feb 27, 2019 23:07:31 GMT 1
Tog is right to mock him,, Looked like a Jeremy Kyle contestant.
Non playing squad members are representing the club, They should be smartly dressed, If I was in charge I would make the lads wear a funky HTFC club blazer,, Made in Huddersfield of course.
I recall Quaner last year in skin tight jeans, only halfway over his arse, And the most ridiculous oversized, Clown like basketball boots.
They were his actual football boots πππππ
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 28, 2019 15:58:19 GMT 1
Anyone know how long he is out? Tog could have asked him last night but was too busy mocking his clothes At least another month according to Jan at the press conference today π
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Post by drfootball on Feb 28, 2019 17:38:18 GMT 1
Anyone know how long he is out? Tog could have asked him last night but was too busy mocking his clothes At least another month according to Jan at the press conference today π Another multi million pound player made out of glass FFS
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