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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 31, 2019 8:35:01 GMT 1
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Post by workshyfop on Mar 31, 2019 8:36:39 GMT 1
Just about to post that myself. Strange article. I’m just assuming it’s bollocks. There’s not much in the story to back up the headline is there?
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Post by bacuna on Mar 31, 2019 8:45:28 GMT 1
Looks like empty speculation based on nothing
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 31, 2019 8:49:50 GMT 1
So the Guardian (& no doubt a couple of others) post a decent contextual piece & the Mail posts clickbait sensationalist stuff.
Whatever next eh...
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Post by townatheart on Mar 31, 2019 8:50:35 GMT 1
More like nonsense, for it would be just as easy to read his actual comments as the opposite to their headline. Cheap sensationalism is more like it.
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Post by townatheart on Mar 31, 2019 8:51:24 GMT 1
So the Guardian (& no doubt a couple of others) post a decent contextual piece & the Mail posts clickbait sensationalist stuff. Whatever next eh... Well it worked for Nick heh 😉 |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Mar 31, 2019 8:56:17 GMT 1
I don't get that feeling at all. I do think whilst Jans English is very good, you sometimes wonder if the words he has chosen were slightly "off" or have a subtle difference to what he'd say if speaking naturally in German. (I must stress this is not knocking Jan whatsoever......)
Maybe he's wondering if because he hasn't really managed to stem the LLL's he thinks Dean may have a change of heart? When he says
"But the thing is I'm willing to work hard so that we come back to the Premier League."
That doesn't sound to me as if HE is planning on walking away.
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Post by sapphireblue on Mar 31, 2019 9:04:37 GMT 1
I don't get that feeling at all. I do think whilst Jans English is very good, you sometimes wonder if the words he has chosen were slightly "off" or have a subtle difference to what he'd say if speaking naturally in German. (I must stress this is not knocking Jan whatsoever......) Maybe he's wondering if because he hasn't really managed to stem the LLL's he thinks Dean may have a change of heart? When he says "But the thing is I'm willing to work hard so that we come back to the Premier League."That doesn't sound to me as if HE is planning on walking away. I concur. It read to me that he couldn't promise to be the manager to lead us back to the top division, not that he couldn't promise to be the manager. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 31, 2019 9:31:57 GMT 1
This is creating a headline but not knitting the facts together. What it does suggest is that DH is, understandably, not fully engaged in the day to day running of the club.
The apparent uncertainty is born out by JS suggesting he doesn't know what the plan is for the future yet. It makes sense for him to want to stay as this is still a good job but there is a suggestion that plans for next season aren't entirely clear at the moment. That in itself is worrying.
The truth is that until DH is well enough to take control again we are all a little bit in the dark. For all he has done for the club everything is invested in him. He can't help being ill but the fact he has been shows how much we rely on his control, drive and direction.
Given relegation has been confirmed I expect some statement from DH about the future. In truth the sooner he is able to be interviewed by the media or do a fans forum the better really, but he needs to look after himself and his family first.
We cannot afford any uncertainty and need to eliminate this as quick as possible. I hope that we all know what the plan is asap. The longer we don't the less chance we have of moving forward.
It's going to be very interesting to see how things will develop...
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Post by digs on Mar 31, 2019 9:44:33 GMT 1
Why would he walkout,as he proved himself to be worthy of a better job some where?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 31, 2019 9:55:46 GMT 1
He's harder to warm to than Wagner, can't quite put my finger on why but that doesn't mean he won't be as good a manager for us as Wagner was.
Hope he stays on and gets chance to build his own team which has better quality in it from an attacking perspective.
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Post by bacuna on Mar 31, 2019 10:02:20 GMT 1
He's harder to warm to than Wagner, can't quite put my finger on why but that doesn't mean he won't be as good a manager for us as Wagner was. Hope he stays on and gets chance to build his own team which has better quality in it from an attacking perspective. Funny, I'm finding his interviews much easier to warm to than the way Wagner's went when times got tough. Properly emotional and seems to want to be honest. Wagner seemed to have a wall up for the last few months Horses for courses I guess |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 10:13:16 GMT 1
He has said previously that he has spoken to DW. It would be madness to think he didn't ask 'where did it all go wrong?'. I've no doubt DW would state the policy of recruiting young players with potential in the hope of making profit rather than the proven quality & experience. JW said himself that DW asked the club if it wanted to change course prior to his resignation. I read this as JS saying it must recognise that this policy failed spectacularly and the club must learn from that and evolve. Maybe transfer policy is being discussed and JS isn't happy? Maybe he is happy to play Town youngsters in the hope of convincing the board that he will develop our young players but they need quality and experience alongside them?
It all sounds feasible and sensible to me.
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Post by Tinpot on Mar 31, 2019 10:23:36 GMT 1
Harder to warm to than Wagner, but other than (arguably) Jacko - every manager we've ever had since I became a fan (in 1987) has been.
Siewert's task so far has been:
* Keep the club up if you can (but we knew we were all but doomed the day he took over).
* Assess the players available
* Prepare for next season.
The first one was an impossible task & there's no shame in him failing there. As far as I've been concerned, Jan Siewert has just been taking part in the best preseason preparation that he possibly could. Next season will be interesting. His challenge is to get rid of the losing mentality (that was evidenced perfectly at West Ham). If he can do that, I'm optimistic.
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Post by midlander on Mar 31, 2019 10:24:02 GMT 1
He's harder to warm to than Wagner, can't quite put my finger on why but that doesn't mean he won't be as good a manager for us as Wagner was. Hope he stays on and gets chance to build his own team which has better quality in it from an attacking perspective. Probably because Wagner introduced us to something completely different and we bought into it. Siewert doesn't have that luxury as we have had the revolution already. He has to try and adapt it slightly. Plus, Wagner had the luxury of starting in the Championship where your errors aren't as exposed and we had players who were good enough for that level so easier to win games. Siewert inherited a side with no confidence, a lack of league-ready players and post revolution. It's been much harder for him to gain plaudits. However, I have been pretty impressed with what he seems to want to do. His crucial season is next year where he needs to ensure we are competing well. Don't expect Top 6, but hoping for a good season with a clear plan and identity of play. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 31, 2019 10:25:36 GMT 1
He's harder to warm to than Wagner, can't quite put my finger on why but that doesn't mean he won't be as good a manager for us as Wagner was. Hope he stays on and gets chance to build his own team which has better quality in it from an attacking perspective. Probably because Wagner introduced us to something completely different and we bought into it. Siewert doesn't have that luxury as we have had the revolution already. He has to try and adapt it slightly. Plus, Wagner had the luxury of starting in the Championship where your errors aren't as exposed and we had players who were good enough for that level so easier to win games. Siewert inherited a side with no confidence, a lack of league-ready players and post revolution. It's been much harder for him to gain plaudits. However, I have been pretty impressed with what he seems to want to do. His crucial season is next year where he needs to ensure we are competing well. Don't expect Top 6, but hoping for a good season with a clear plan and identity of play. Next season should be about starting to build a side who can make a real go of it in 2020/21. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 31, 2019 10:29:22 GMT 1
I don't see why he would leave. Think he was brought in for next season anyway. He does deserve a chance imo. Plus in the championship we won't be up against quality opposition every week. If we get the summer right we could potentially be a promotion challenger next season.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 31, 2019 10:50:57 GMT 1
I don't see why he would leave. Think he was brought in for next season anyway. He does deserve a chance imo. Plus in the championship we won't be up against quality opposition every week. If we get the summer right we could potentially be a promotion challenger next season. We're up against the likes of Tom Ince and Scott Malone every week. We've got no chance |
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Post by bigtruck on Mar 31, 2019 10:52:10 GMT 1
It’ll all depend on if the new owners want to bring their own man in!!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 31, 2019 10:52:26 GMT 1
I don't see why he would leave. Think he was brought in for next season anyway. He does deserve a chance imo. Plus in the championship we won't be up against quality opposition every week. If we get the summer right we could potentially be a promotion challenger next season. We're up against the likes of Tom Ince and Scott Malone every week. We've got no chance Nahki Wells and Duane will destroy us. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 31, 2019 10:56:29 GMT 1
So the Guardian (& no doubt a couple of others) post a decent contextual piece & the Mail posts clickbait sensationalist stuff. Whatever next eh... you couldnt believe it, the daily mail  . |
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Post by ruggedivy on Mar 31, 2019 11:06:29 GMT 1
Nonsense article.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 11:13:19 GMT 1
It’ll all depend on if the new owners want to bring their own man in!! Come on Bigtruck, you’re in the know. Spill the beans! I’d be happy with Deano selling up for a big profit, a few years of new owners spending money like it’s going out of fashion. A couple of top ten PL finishes and an FA Cup win. Wheels fall off, relegation, owners right off huge debt to avoid administration and Deano buys us back for a quid to restore sensible times. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 31, 2019 11:17:19 GMT 1
Just listened to Hoggy's interview yesterday and he makes a comment that "We need to bring in players who have experience of the Championship".
I wouldn't necessarily read too much into that but then again it perhaps shows where he thinks we are.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Mar 31, 2019 12:07:41 GMT 1
Don't rule out the return of Dave. He's very quiet and could well be recharging his batteries ready for ANOTHER successful promotion campaign.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 12:08:08 GMT 1
what aload of bull that report was taken everything out of context. daily mail? bloody hell |
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Post by digs on Mar 31, 2019 12:15:27 GMT 1
Don't rule out the return of Dave. He's very quiet and could well be recharging his batteries ready for ANOTHER successful promotion campaign. no thanks |
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Post by ponteterrier on Mar 31, 2019 12:19:21 GMT 1
I'am pretty sure he was appointed with the expectation that we would be relegated and Jan being given the opportunity to make his team.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Mar 31, 2019 12:45:03 GMT 1
Don't rule out the return of Dave. He's very quiet and could well be recharging his batteries ready for ANOTHER successful promotion campaign. no thanks Presumably you want players who are capable of getting us promotion? Wouldn't a manager with that same quality be on the wish list too? |
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