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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 1, 2019 13:19:44 GMT 1
Does it excuse him of writing speculative pieces for his employer then? He might be a good lad & apologies for branding him as a hack if he is indeed a good writer, but he has a job to do, not a job that has his wages paid by HTFC... We don't know if the article is speculative or not. I doubt it though, why would he (or anyone working for the Times) simply make up a story about Town? Time will tell, I guess. Let's see how long Jan is our manager for... My point was referring to the article in the Mail, not the Times... (though I acknowledge I referred to other papers picking up on the story and forming their own articles)
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Post by hypotenuse on Apr 1, 2019 13:37:02 GMT 1
I think there is a lot of credibility to the story in The Times. Siewert has been critical, in word or deed, of individuals rather too publicly and this is something which Wagner always avoided. Through a contact in the game (though not someone at the club but actually at a different club currently in the Championship) I have become aware of this developing situation and I now believe that we will attempt to pull the plug on the Siewert deal and (probably) go with Hudson. However, the situation is fluid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 14:15:09 GMT 1
I think there is a lot of credibility to the story in The Times. Siewert has been critical, in word or deed, of individuals rather too publicly and this is something which Wagner always avoided. Through a contact in the game (though not someone at the club but actually at a different club currently in the Championship) I have become aware of this developing situation and I now believe that we will attempt to pull the plug on the Siewert deal and (probably) go with Hudson. However, the situation is fluid. we will see but for me its bull shit and I fully expect siewart to be here next season. Nothing is certain in pro football but I don't get the feeling that as been protrayed in the media about this. not from within the club anyway but time will tell
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 1, 2019 14:28:38 GMT 1
its all speculation, its expected when you get relegated, its definitely going to be more when you go down 'early'.. it just misses out the fact that we were in a 'very, very poor position' when the new bloke came in..
had we managed to get out it would have been the ultimate great escape and Jan would have been the greatest manager both we and the premier league had ever seen..
simply put the 12 game losing run produced so little in the way of 'glimmers of hope' that there were no 'green shoots' to grow....
we were losing games without ever looking like winning one, we lost games that we had to work fucking hard in to help out the opposition to win them..
We reached the end of the road for this squad in this division and it became simply a question of time, a couple of points here and one there would have been just a delay..The wolves win was a happy 'blip'...
We lost too many games in our 'little league'...
Im looking forward to being competitive against all the opposition in the league..Want the manager and players to be annoyed and disappointed when the performances do not deserve anything much..
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Post by Stewpot on Apr 1, 2019 14:47:04 GMT 1
I'd be grateful if anyone pasted that article in here, seems like a potentially interesting one.
TTCMatt Not really that interesting to be fair, and it's a fairly short piece which I have copied and pasted here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan Siewert’s future as manager of Huddersfield Town is in doubt after their relegation from the Premier League due to the collapse of his relationship with the club’s senior players. The German, 36, who replaced David Wagner in January, is understood to have alienated many in the dressing room with a hardline approach since his appointment that has resulted in eight defeats and just one win since his appointment. Siewert was given a contract until June 2021 just ten weeks ago, but it is now unclear whether he will stay at Huddersfield for next season’s Sky Bet Championship campaign. Siewert ducked the question of his future after Huddersfield’s relegation from the Premier League in record-equaling time was confirmed by a 2-0 defeat to Crystal Palace yesterday and will held talks with owner Dean Hoyle in the coming weeks. Siewert is expected to demand a complete overhaul of the squad this summer as the price for fulfilling his contract having lost the support of many in the dressing room, although it is unclear at present whether Hoyle will back his manager or the players. Among a number of complaints from the dressing room, it is claimed that Siewert has dropped key players without any explanation and reacted aggressively to defeats. Mark Hudson, the under-23 coach who took charge of one match as caretaker manager following Wagner’s departure earlier in the season, would be a popular internal appointment to replace Siewert. To complicate matters the future ownership of the club is uncertain, with The Times revealing on Saturday that Hoyle would be open to offers above £60 million.
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 1, 2019 15:08:09 GMT 1
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 1, 2019 15:11:04 GMT 1
I think we can put any rumours about JS leaving to bed now.
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Post by ruggedivy on Apr 1, 2019 15:11:48 GMT 1
As always, our owner puts everything into perspective. Roll on next season! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
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Post by Detective Boyle on Apr 1, 2019 15:13:58 GMT 1
That's the end of that. Lets get behind Jan, thank the departing players that have served us well and welcome new additions in what should be an exciting summer window
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Apr 1, 2019 15:16:52 GMT 1
"Jan Siewert came into the Club at a difficult time and he would be the first to tell you that he’s not happy with the results we’ve had so far. However, I believe Jan has made a big impact on the First Team already. He’s made some big decisions and has shown a real understanding of putting the Club first, before everyone else. I’m very pleased with the work he has put in and I’m genuinely excited to see what his team will look like after a full pre-season. The Board of Directors is fully behind Jan as the man to take us forward.
Jan has a very clear playing identity, which is vitally important to us. It allows us to recruit players who will fit his style, which is where we had our success ahead of the 2016/17 season. As well as recruitment, we want to be the fittest team, the hardest-working team and show a real togetherness. If we put all those elements together, it’ll be an exciting prospect for every Town fan."
I think the players we have just don't suit the style of game he plays. He'll hopefully be allowed to shape a side how he wants it.
"I believe Jan Siewert has made a big impact on the First Team already. He’s made some big decisions and has shown a real understanding of putting #htafc first, before everyone else."
read into that what you will.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 15:26:15 GMT 1
I think we can put any rumours about JS leaving to bed now. well done dean for nipping this in the bud before it got out of control. thought it bullshit from the start. we move on
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Post by Stewpot on Apr 1, 2019 15:29:51 GMT 1
I have never shared the pessimism of some on here regarding Jan's abilities. He came in when the club was at a very low point, Wagner had walked away, and it was his job at least temporarily to get a tune out of that lot which ultimately proved too much for even DW. I quite like his brusque style, and if he's ruffled a few feathers then so be it, can't argue it wasn't justified. We shall be viewed this season as one of the worst Premier League teams of all time, so give him a chance to do it his way, with his style and his players over the summer, then see what next season brings.
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Post by dugnet on Apr 1, 2019 15:30:41 GMT 1
I think we can put any rumours about JS leaving to bed now. Yes - he may well have ruffled some feathers but he's here for a bit longer yet.
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Post by In sooth- - on Apr 1, 2019 16:03:46 GMT 1
Thank goodness.We don`t want McClaren to apply for any job here.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 1, 2019 16:54:01 GMT 1
I think there is a lot of credibility to the story in The Times. Siewert has been critical, in word or deed, of individuals rather too publicly and this is something which Wagner always avoided. Through a contact in the game (though not someone at the club but actually at a different club currently in the Championship) I have become aware of this developing situation and I now believe that we will attempt to pull the plug on the Siewert deal and (probably) go with Hudson. However, the situation is fluid. Sounds like DH is 100% behind him to me.
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Post by TTCMatt on Apr 1, 2019 18:47:15 GMT 1
I'd be grateful if anyone pasted that article in here, seems like a potentially interesting one.
TTCMatt Not really that interesting to be fair, and it's a fairly short piece which I have copied and pasted here. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan Siewert’s future as manager of Huddersfield Town is in doubt after their relegation from the Premier League due to the collapse of his relationship with the club’s senior players. The German, 36, who replaced David Wagner in January, is understood to have alienated many in the dressing room with a hardline approach since his appointment that has resulted in eight defeats and just one win since his appointment. Siewert was given a contract until June 2021 just ten weeks ago, but it is now unclear whether he will stay at Huddersfield for next season’s Sky Bet Championship campaign. Siewert ducked the question of his future after Huddersfield’s relegation from the Premier League in record-equaling time was confirmed by a 2-0 defeat to Crystal Palace yesterday and will held talks with owner Dean Hoyle in the coming weeks. Siewert is expected to demand a complete overhaul of the squad this summer as the price for fulfilling his contract having lost the support of many in the dressing room, although it is unclear at present whether Hoyle will back his manager or the players. Among a number of complaints from the dressing room, it is claimed that Siewert has dropped key players without any explanation and reacted aggressively to defeats. Mark Hudson, the under-23 coach who took charge of one match as caretaker manager following Wagner’s departure earlier in the season, would be a popular internal appointment to replace Siewert. To complicate matters the future ownership of the club is uncertain, with The Times revealing on Saturday that Hoyle would be open to offers above £60 million.
Thanks, seems like Matt Hughes tried to put several pieces together but couldn't complete the jigsaw judging by today's comments by Dean Hoyle.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Apr 1, 2019 18:56:27 GMT 1
Quite a big section just been on look North on us and the relegation. Talking about the dressing room rift between Jan and certain players.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Apr 1, 2019 20:10:32 GMT 1
Can't believe The Times has the gall to charge for online access when they print unfounded shite like this
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 1, 2019 20:12:10 GMT 1
Quite a big section just been on look North on us and the relegation. Talking about the dressing room rift between Jan and certain players. Matt Glennon is full of shit
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 1, 2019 20:36:36 GMT 1
Quite a big section just been on look North on us and the relegation. Talking about the dressing room rift between Jan and certain players. Matt Glennon is full of shit Prize pillock isn’t he. Not sure what’s worse, his punditry or the rl content in general this season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 20:38:32 GMT 1
I think there is a lot of credibility to the story in The Times. Siewert has been critical, in word or deed, of individuals rather too publicly and this is something which Wagner always avoided. Through a contact in the game (though not someone at the club but actually at a different club currently in the Championship) I have become aware of this developing situation and I now believe that we will attempt to pull the plug on the Siewert deal and (probably) go with Hudson. However, the situation is fluid. I must have missed Siewert in word being critical of any individuals publicly?
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Post by bacuna on Apr 1, 2019 22:11:10 GMT 1
I think there is a lot of credibility to the story in The Times. Siewert has been critical, in word or deed, of individuals rather too publicly and this is something which Wagner always avoided. Through a contact in the game (though not someone at the club but actually at a different club currently in the Championship) I have become aware of this developing situation and I now believe that we will attempt to pull the plug on the Siewert deal and (probably) go with Hudson. However, the situation is fluid. I must have missed Siewert in word being critical of any individuals publicly? In your defence, it is really easy to miss things that never actually happened.
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Post by Town Duppy on Apr 1, 2019 22:28:34 GMT 1
Thank goodness.We don`t want McClaren to apply for any job here. Tbf he's made a massive improvement since switching from Honda to Renault.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Apr 2, 2019 7:25:14 GMT 1
Its been revealed the players couldnt understand his instructions in Swedish, so he was sacked.
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Post by explorer on Apr 2, 2019 7:35:17 GMT 1
Its been revealed the players couldnt understand his instructions in Swedish, so he was sacked. I assume you mean Dutch, Nicholas?
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Post by royrace on Apr 2, 2019 8:49:21 GMT 1
Can't believe The Times has the gall to charge for online access when they print unfounded shite like this Is it unfounded then? I think the article suggests three things; 1. The club is considering Jan's future, 2. The club is potentially going to be sold and 3. There is a rift between certain players and Jan and he has alienated a lot of the senior pros. If for arguments sake all three of those things were true do you think Dean would come out and say they were? I'm not saying any of it IS true but I don't think the recent announcement proves it all to be unfounded shite as you put it. I'm most worried about #2 which I sincerely hope isn't true.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 9:45:44 GMT 1
Can't believe The Times has the gall to charge for online access when they print unfounded shite like this Is it unfounded then? I think the article suggests three things; 1. The club is considering Jan's future, 2. The club is potentially going to be sold and 3. There is a rift between certain players and Jan and he has alienated a lot of the senior pros. If for arguments sake all three of those things were true do you think Dean would come out and say they were? I'm not saying any of it IS true but I don't think the recent announcement proves it all to be unfounded shite as you put it. I'm most worried about #2 which I sincerely hope isn't true. a manager has to manage and no player his happy if he is not playing. if he is he shoudnt be in the game.like a LOT OF THINGS THIS HAS BEEN BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION. OF COURSE THERE ARE DISPUTES AND THAT IS IN EVERY PRO DRESSING FOOM IN THE COUNTRY AND I INCLUDE THE TOP TEAMS AS WELL.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 10:22:35 GMT 1
Matt Glennon is full of shit Prize pillock isn’t he. Not sure what’s worse, his punditry or the rl content in general this season. Dreadful and part of an awful season. Bring back Kieran O Regan.
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Post by royrace on Apr 2, 2019 10:52:57 GMT 1
Prize pillock isn’t he. Not sure what’s worse, his punditry or the rl content in general this season. Dreadful and part of an awful season. Bring back Kieran O Regan. Surprised anyone still listens, cant be bothered with it since the DAB debacle and on the rare occasion I have, I wished I hadn't.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Apr 2, 2019 10:59:49 GMT 1
Just a third rate barber with boring voice
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