Mounie

[Frankiesleftpeg]

Apr 20, 2019 22:10:04 GMT 1 Tim Nice But Dim said:

I have watched Town for around 50 years and seriously, he has to be one of the worst strikers this club has had. Some fan's go on and on about the Palace game, what has he done since then.

He scored 7 (a quarter our goals) last season and whilst he's had a bad season this season he's a million miles better than some of the dross we've had over the past 50 years.

The likes of Terry Austin, Terry Eccles, Roy Greenwood, John Newby, Colin Garwood to name but a few, spring to mind. Even when we were in the top flight last time(70-72) we had the likes of Brian Mahoney & Brian Greenhalgh who were far worse than Mounie.

[teddytheterrier]

He's an absolute shitehawk! Sell him to Nice or Strasbourg.

[space hardware]

Apr 20, 2019 22:40:25 GMT 1 teddytheterrier said:

He's an absolute shitehawk! Sell him to Nice or Strasbourg.

Shitehawk 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Shitehawk, I use this word quite regular.

[Nickhudds.UTT]

Apr 20, 2019 22:40:25 GMT 1 teddytheterrier said:

He's an absolute shitehawk! Sell him to Nice or Strasbourg.

.
He is not even good enough for bradford.

[frankslegs]

The only difference being they actually put a shift in—-I have never wavered from the first time I saw him-idle,lazy,selfish,good in the air on a free header,never when challenged.6.2’’ and a powder puff.Sean Morrison couldnt wait for him to appear.Absolutely given his so called pedigree useless and a waste of a Town shirt.The regular run out excuses of his supporters on this site Of the crosses are crap are a smoke screen for an arrogant waste of space who actually runs like a ballet dancer.

[lochnessterrier]

One of the biggest ever disappointments. After that opening game against Palace last season I thought we'd signed a superstar. What a bloody fall from grace, get rid.

[digs]

He's like a space hopper trying to control a balloon,fucking hopeless

[ldotm]

Apr 20, 2019 21:37:16 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

I don’t believe he’s shite. I think his confidence is shot to pieces. He’s the shadow of the player I saw that ripped palace apart first game last season. He has ability in the air and his second goal that day showed he has it with his feet. With a team completely clueless going forward and zero creativity in the last 18 months it’s no surprise his confidence is gone. I feel for him, I think there’s a good player in him still but he’s been let down badly by those around him, the tactics and playing style of the last 18 months and the constant chopping and changing of the front line.

I’d have accepted that argument before January, that maybe it’s down to the lack of creativity. But since Grant has come in, in his limited time, he’s still causing problems, scoring goals and looks 5x the player than Big Steve & LDP and he’s jumped up two divisions.

He’s good in the air, that’s where it ends unfortunately. Think we’ll end up sticking with him due to nobody stumping up anywhere near what we bought him for. Will happily be proven wrong.

[otium (EPBS)]

He is garbage. He has one attribute...heading. That is not a big part of the modern game. Buy a giraffe.
The biggest waste of money ever.

[Captainslapper]

Hes good in the air from goal kicks hoofed up the pitch.

Hes not good on the air in the opposition box because his movement and tenacity are so non-existant he barely ever gets anywhere near a cross.
His touch is shit, his work rate is shit, his vision is shit.

He just doesn;t want to score enough. Theres no drive, no aggression. One of the most half-assed players i can remember.

Him and Depoitre and both of their lazy, half-assed, uninterested attitudes are the main reason why this season has been such a calamity. Ditch them both. Theyve both been stealing a living all season IMO.

[brodie81]

Apr 20, 2019 21:37:16 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

I don’t believe he’s shite. I think his confidence is shot to pieces. He’s the shadow of the player I saw that ripped palace apart first game last season. He has ability in the air and his second goal that day showed he has it with his feet. With a team completely clueless going forward and zero creativity in the last 18 months it’s no surprise his confidence is gone. I feel for him, I think there’s a good player in him still but he’s been let down badly by those around him, the tactics and playing style of the last 18 months and the constant chopping and changing of the front line.

Come on!!!! It takes a lot for me to be negative about owt town !!!

But today I’ve give up on Mounie! Nowt to do with chopping and changing.hes been dropped because he’s not scoring! He’s been put in team giving a chance because Laurent isn’t.

[Detective Boyle]

Apr 20, 2019 21:37:16 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

I don’t believe he’s shite. I think his confidence is shot to pieces. He’s the shadow of the player I saw that ripped palace apart first game last season. He has ability in the air and his second goal that day showed he has it with his feet. With a team completely clueless going forward and zero creativity in the last 18 months it’s no surprise his confidence is gone. I feel for him, I think there’s a good player in him still but he’s been let down badly by those around him, the tactics and playing style of the last 18 months and the constant chopping and changing of the front line.

You're being kind to him there, imo. He's missed a lot of really good chances.

[dewsburyborn]

Apr 20, 2019 22:44:01 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

Shitehawk, I use this word quite regular.

I saw an alt-country Leeds band at The Brudenell a couple of years ago opening up for I can't remember who.... they were called The Shytalks and actually pretty good.

[mrbluesky]

Apr 20, 2019 22:04:16 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Apr 20, 2019 22:00:53 GMT 1 Tim Nice But Dim said:

You can not be serious he doesn't look anything like a striker, Grant will make a far better striker whether it's with us or not.

I’m deadly serious

Wow🤦‍♂️

[Torquayterrier]

A lot of what slaps says above hits nail on head. For someone who's supposed strength is heading you rarely see him power into the box to meet a cross, he's very reactive rather than proactive. Loiters about for ball to come to him rather than making things happen. If people have to keep going back to the away performance at Palace (pre Hodgson when they were an utter shambles and everyone scored against them) for one of his stand out games that speaks volumes.

[Nickhudds.UTT]

The old lady summed him up best on radio

Hes useless and she could do as good.
Hope we get rid.

[turbo2]

You might as well play with ten men. Useless lazy git.

Just cannot understand why he gets any game time

[In sooth- -]

He is poor but he is usually isolated even though we allegedly played 4-3-3 formation.

[teddytheterrier]

Jan's formation doesn't suit him.

[capitalterrier]

Mounie and Grant will be our Wijnhard and Stewart next season!

[specialun]

Apr 20, 2019 20:41:43 GMT 1 ShortbreadPete said:

Can't work out how some think he is better than LDP. He can't control a ball, shield a ball, beat an opponent or make an intelligent pass and don't get me started on his effort levels

This one is simple

Mounie has 7 goals and 3 assists since Jan 18

Depoitre has 1 goal and 1 assist since Jan 18

One is a poor record, 1 is a terrible record

Mounie, for all his stick, bad touches, terrible decision making and poor scoring record has improved as an all round player since he arrived with us

He’s our top assists maker this season (I know...he’s a striker)

If I try take a positive from that ridiculous decision not to play Daly in yesterday ... he’d done all the right things until that point. Granted he may as well not bothered but he wouldn’t have got into that position last season

All round game clearly still massive amounts to improve on

Depoitre had 2/3 good months for us. He’s not been at the races since Dec-17 - he’s remembered more fondly than he should be overall as his 1 goal in 16 months was a very important goal at Chelsea and he scored against Man Utd 20 months ago which seems to equate to 10 goals to some fans

[teddytheterrier]

They are both absolutely pathetic.

1 goal between them all season.

Grant comes in from league one and already has 4.

[ben1987]

Apr 21, 2019 0:05:45 GMT 1 ldotm said:

Apr 20, 2019 21:37:16 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

I don’t believe he’s shite. I think his confidence is shot to pieces. He’s the shadow of the player I saw that ripped palace apart first game last season. He has ability in the air and his second goal that day showed he has it with his feet. With a team completely clueless going forward and zero creativity in the last 18 months it’s no surprise his confidence is gone. I feel for him, I think there’s a good player in him still but he’s been let down badly by those around him, the tactics and playing style of the last 18 months and the constant chopping and changing of the front line.

I’d have accepted that argument before January, that maybe it’s down to the lack of creativity. But since Grant has come in, in his limited time, he’s still causing problems, scoring goals and looks 5x the player than Big Steve & LDP and he’s jumped up two divisions.

He’s good in the air, that’s where it ends unfortunately. Think we’ll end up sticking with him due to nobody stumping up anywhere near what we bought him for. Will happily be proven wrong.

Grant came to us confident and scoring goals something which Mounié has struggled with which imo has been down to the lack of creativity which we’ve had for a long time. I just fail to believe he’s shite given how horrific this seasons been and what I’ve seen of him when we looked like a football team In a confident, attacking free flowing team he’d be far better.

[Christ in Shades (art)]

Think he might be more effective in a traditional 4-4-2 formation with supply and someone to be creative. I think the incident yesterday where he didn't play in Daly strikes me as a striker desperate to score a goal to give his confidence a boost.

[turbo2]

Apr 21, 2019 10:22:48 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Apr 21, 2019 0:05:45 GMT 1 ldotm said:

I’d have accepted that argument before January, that maybe it’s down to the lack of creativity. But since Grant has come in, in his limited time, he’s still causing problems, scoring goals and looks 5x the player than Big Steve & LDP and he’s jumped up two divisions.

He’s good in the air, that’s where it ends unfortunately. Think we’ll end up sticking with him due to nobody stumping up anywhere near what we bought him for. Will happily be proven wrong.

Grant came to us confident and scoring goals something which Mounié has struggled with which imo has been down to the lack of creativity which we’ve had for a long time. I just fail to believe he’s shite given how horrific this seasons been and what I’ve seen of him when we looked like a football team In a confident, attacking free flowing team he’d be far better.

i think you are being very generous ben.

just watch when a ball is knocked towards him.. it travels 30 yards before he makes a move by which time the defender marking him has cleared up. week in week out the defenders don't have to break sweat when marking him

that break in the second half just about summed him up

[ben1987]

Apr 21, 2019 10:37:00 GMT 1 turbo2 said:

Apr 21, 2019 10:22:48 GMT 1 ben1987 said:

Grant came to us confident and scoring goals something which Mounié has struggled with which imo has been down to the lack of creativity which we’ve had for a long time. I just fail to believe he’s shite given how horrific this seasons been and what I’ve seen of him when we looked like a football team In a confident, attacking free flowing team he’d be far better.

i think you are being very generous ben.

just watch when a ball is knocked towards him.. it travels 30 yards before he makes a move by which time the defender marking him has cleared up. week in week out the defenders don't have to break sweat when marking him

that break in the second half just about summed him up

Isn’t that down to a lack of confidence?

[Bassingham Terrier]

Apr 21, 2019 10:11:20 GMT 1 teddytheterrier said:

They are both absolutely pathetic.

1 goal between them all season.

Grant comes in from league one and already has 4.

Not two then?

Burnley (home) and Wolves (home)

[Million Dollar Babies]

He'd be a superstar in league one with balls being pumped up to his head all game

I don't think he's actually any better in the rest of his game than someone like Hanson. Or if he is, he's doing a bloody good job of hiding it

[Deleted]

They’re both equally appalling players. I can’t see either scoring regularly again at any level. As has been said Mounie’s movement isn’t good enough to get into scoring positions and even when he does he just cannot finish. He doesn’t instinctively know what sort of kick or touch is required to get the back from him to being into the goal. You can’t teach that. That’s under 9’s stuff.

Yes confidence has gone but he’s had so many very very easy chances throughout the season from which he could’ve got his confidence going. Even when he has scored- a header from an Mbenza cross -it didn’t improve his confidence the rest of the game, never mind later games.

Add to that the fact he hasn’t looked interested a lot of the time and you’ve basically got a centre forward of a relegated team.

We absolutely HAD to get that signing right. Everyone knew it after literally squeaking up with likes of Wells (also useless). We HAD to land a goalscorer. Who the f**k thought some Jonny from French ligue 1 who’d had 1 season of 13 goals was going to be the man we needed to establish us as a premier league team.

How many of those players have come out of the French league in recent years? Why was not 1 other club of the 20 prem and 5 serious championship teams watching him? Well we know why now don’t we?

What did the scouts or DOF or whoever see that made them think Yes! That’s our man to fire us 10 goals this year and 15 next. He’s not quick, he doesn’t move well, his touch is average at best, he doesn’t have a good shot from distance. What were we hoping to do? Develope him into a player?

When spending £10m plus even in today’s crazy market you’d think you’d be able to find someone who’s already accomplished at scoring goals at their current level and hope that they can make the step up. We’ve signed a novice.

Why can we buy Grant for £2m? But spent 6 times that for a player nowhere near as good.

I don’t think Olaf Rebbe had ever played the game and whoever else was in charge of recruitment did not have playing backgrounds. Even fans with some amateur experience can see he’s not ‘a player’.