Mounie

[teddytheterrier]

Apr 21, 2019 10:58:42 GMT 1 Bassingham Terrier said:

Apr 21, 2019 10:11:20 GMT 1 teddytheterrier said:

They are both absolutely pathetic.

1 goal between them all season.

Grant comes in from league one and already has 4.

Not two then?

Burnley (home) and Wolves (home)

Forgot about that one fair enough. 2 goals is still shit.

[drfootball]

Apr 20, 2019 20:58:45 GMT 1 dan50 said:

13 million down the drain...

Try 100 as I genuinely believe with a decent striker we would have scored enough to stay up

[Nickhudds.UTT]

makes andrew Booth look like Messi and shearer in one !

[Headless Chicken]

Apr 21, 2019 12:54:06 GMT 1 drfootball said:

Apr 20, 2019 20:58:45 GMT 1 dan50 said:

13 million down the drain...

Try 100 as I genuinely believe with a decent striker we would have scored enough to stay up

Mounie has been rubbish for large parts, but the supply line has been bloody poor too. Not one of the front four have had more than the odd decent game.

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There was a time when we were playing well- before and after wolves away. That was our time to kick on after a dreadful start- partly Wagner fault for dropping Lossl- playing Hamer is immediate defeat before a balls been kicked at this level.

Anyway, it was our collective inability to score when we were dominating paosssion and play in that period which killed us. Everyone was to blame- Billing hit the woodwork several times but should’ve had more goals to his game. The defenders wasted chances for fun- kongolo, Zanka even Hoggy went close but the forwards who most of the chances fell to were not even championship standard.

Even if we’d had Murray or Ings or Perez I think we could have stayed up- at least taken it to the wire. Saints have been absolutely shit yet we never put them under any pressure.

I stood by Mounie. I can’t see there was ever a cause to replace him with LDP who clearly didn’t give a flying fuck this year and was not fit enough to play. Still, moonie had chances and it was like there was a forcefield around the goal.

I saw in the match thread yesterday that he had managed to stoop to new lows!! How is that even possible I thought? How can he have sunken below what he’d done previously.

[shelterr]

Went to the match yesterday, as in previous matches, hoping to see a good game and Town make an effort and have a go.
The team sheet was announced and Mounie was named yet again as starting. I commented, oh well we've lost again then.

First half the whole team looked as though they couldn't be bothered which is very disappointing given the money the players are earning. M0unie in particular carried this demeanor on into the second half.

Quite how he keeps getting picked is beyond me. If Sievert thinks the's good then that says enough about Sievert too.

Grant came on and did more in 5 mins than Mounie did all game.
When we got promoted we took a punt on DePoitre and Mounie, and we all though it paid off against Palace. Maybe it was too easy in that one match for Mounie, but he'd not really delivered since.
We have had 3 transfer windows since that time, and only tried to address the striker position at the 11th hour on the last transfer window with a player from 2 leagues below. A lot of expectation on young Grant, but he does try and certainly is a good buy. My point being we should have bought a striker a long time before we did, and an experienced one at that. I appreciate we only have so much money, but other teams seem to be able to pick these strikers up.

Back to Mounie, I think he's nowhere near as good as he (or Sievert for that matter) thinks he is. Confidence is shot, but he's lazy, lacking in skill and not a team player (DePoitre was a better team player)
Personally I don't want to see Mounie in a Town shirt again after yesterday. Play Grant and why not try one of our younger players from the academy as a sub?

For the future, think we all agree we need to address the striker situation - we'll need someone as well as Grant. I'd like to see a seasoned campaigner to help bring him on even more. We also need some creativity in midfield.

We should sell Mounie for what we can get and save the wages. And Sievert should resign this week, he's destroyed whatever was left of a team.

[Captainslapper]

Apr 21, 2019 10:11:20 GMT 1 teddytheterrier said:

They are both absolutely pathetic.

1 goal between them all season.

Grant comes in from league one and already has 4.

Grant wants to score. Hes desperate to score.
Theres the difference.
Mounie probably wouldn;t have scored the goal grant got yesterday. An easy header from close in, but Mounie wouldn't have been there to get it. He'd have been ambling about outside the area practically marking their centre back!

Lack of confidence might explain missing chances but lack of movement and desire has nothing to do with that. If you're off form, those are the things you make sure are still there in spades.
What Mounie suffers from is a lack of heart and lack of desire, far more than he has a lack of confidence.

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Anyone noticed his Facebook profile picture change? Just popped up on my newsfeed & quite a few comments saying “come to Fenerbache”. Wondering if there are rumours and links that neck of the world.

[Deleted]

Apr 21, 2019 16:55:46 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Apr 21, 2019 10:11:20 GMT 1 teddytheterrier said:

They are both absolutely pathetic.

1 goal between them all season.

Grant comes in from league one and already has 4.

Grant wants to score. Hes desperate to score.
Theres the difference.
Mounie probably wouldn;t have scored the goal grant got yesterday. An easy header from close in, but Mounie wouldn't have been there to get it. He'd have been ambling about outside the area practically marking their centre back!

Lack of confidence might explain missing chances but lack of movement and desire has nothing to do with that. If you're off form, those are the things you make sure are still there in spades.
What Mounie suffers from is a lack of heart and lack of desire, far more than he has a lack of confidence.

more importantly he has a lack of footballing ability

[jackosbrylcream]

Apr 21, 2019 16:59:02 GMT 1 @htfc79 said:

Anyone noticed his Facebook profile picture change? Just popped up on my newsfeed & quite a few comments saying “come to Fenerbache”. Wondering if there are rumours and links that neck of the world.

And now banging on about the countdown being on for African Cup of Nations.

Pretty obvious where his head is right now, just trying to avoid injury for that. Jan should help him with that aim by not playing him again.

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Apr 21, 2019 17:04:12 GMT 1 jackosbrylcream said:

Apr 21, 2019 16:59:02 GMT 1 @htfc79 said:

Anyone noticed his Facebook profile picture change? Just popped up on my newsfeed & quite a few comments saying “come to Fenerbache”. Wondering if there are rumours and links that neck of the world.

And now banging on about the countdown being on for African Cup of Nations.

Pretty obvious where his head is right now, just trying to avoid injury for that. Jan should help him with that aim by not playing him again.

Hopefully he can do well and put himself in the shop window! 🙏

[lochnessterrier]

Apr 21, 2019 14:09:35 GMT 1 Headless Chicken said:

Apr 21, 2019 12:54:06 GMT 1 drfootball said:

Try 100 as I genuinely believe with a decent striker we would have scored enough to stay up

Mounie has been rubbish for large parts, but the supply line has been bloody poor too. Not one of the front four have had more than the odd decent game.

If the supply line is so bad how come Grant can score twice as many in a relatively short space of time?

[terriers321]

Apr 21, 2019 16:59:02 GMT 1 @htfc79 said:

Anyone noticed his Facebook profile picture change? Just popped up on my newsfeed & quite a few comments saying “come to Fenerbache”. Wondering if there are rumours and links that neck of the world.

Fingers crossed.

[Headless Chicken]

Apr 22, 2019 5:40:47 GMT 1 lochnessterrier said:

Apr 21, 2019 14:09:35 GMT 1 Headless Chicken said:

Mounie has been rubbish for large parts, but the supply line has been bloody poor too. Not one of the front four have had more than the odd decent game.

If the supply line is so bad how come Grant can score twice as many in a relatively short space of time?

Have you been to the games? If so, you don't need me to answer that.

PS - I am not excusing Mounie.

[ringdisco]

Fenerbahce won't buy both Kongolo and Mounie....

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Apr 22, 2019 10:00:51 GMT 1 ringdisco said:

Fenerbahce won't buy both Kongolo and Mounie....

Not even if we have a whip round and fly them both there 😁

[crux]

Apr 22, 2019 10:00:51 GMT 1 ringdisco said:

Fenerbahce won't buy both Kongolo and Mounie....

Give us £20m for Kongolo and they can have a 'bogof' with Mounie 😉

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Apr 22, 2019 10:14:04 GMT 1 crux said:

Apr 22, 2019 10:00:51 GMT 1 ringdisco said:

Fenerbahce won't buy both Kongolo and Mounie....

Give us £20m for Kongolo and they can have a 'bogof' with Mounie 😉

We could even add LDP  and Zanka then it would be an even better deal.

[midlander]

Apr 22, 2019 10:06:26 GMT 1 @ksne3 said:

Apr 22, 2019 10:00:51 GMT 1 ringdisco said:

Fenerbahce won't buy both Kongolo and Mounie....

Not even if we have a whip round and fly them both there 😁

Why on earth would you want to fly Kongolo anywhere?

[Nickhudds.UTT]

I hope Mounié goes im sick of seeing him and lazy ways he can take sobhi with him

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Apr 22, 2019 10:53:05 GMT 1 midlander said:

Apr 22, 2019 10:06:26 GMT 1 @ksne3 said:

Not even if we have a whip round and fly them both there 😁

Why on earth would you want to fly Kongolo anywhere?

Oops had a seniour moment there as I want to keep him 😁

[willo]

Mounie peaked in his first ever game in a Town shirt, it’s been a gradual decline since. There won’t be many that will be disappointed to see him move on in the summer.

[Captainslapper]

Wouldn;t surprise me if Kongolo doesn;t fancy dropping to the 2nd tier and wants away, but in truth Id be amazed if we got our brass back for him if it came to that.
As good as he was last season, this season hes been a pale shadow of that IMO.

Hope he stays but also hope he gets his form back too.

[impact]

Apr 22, 2019 16:06:11 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Wouldn;t surprise me if Kongolo doesn;t fancy dropping to the 2nd tier and wants away, but in truth Id be amazed if we got our brass back for him if it came to that.
As good as he was last season, this season hes been a pale shadow of that IMO.

Hope he stays but also hope he gets his form back too.

He seems to be sliding in to intercept the ball a lot and keeps missing it. Seems a bit of his composure has gone missing.

[lochnessterrier]

Apr 22, 2019 16:06:11 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Wouldn;t surprise me if Kongolo doesn;t fancy dropping to the 2nd tier and wants away, but in truth Id be amazed if we got our brass back for him if it came to that.
As good as he was last season, this season hes been a pale shadow of that IMO.

Hope he stays but also hope he gets his form back too.

I fear we will not get big money for anybody. As far as the outside world is concerned they are associated with a club that failed badly in the PL.

[omegasupreme]

Apr 21, 2019 8:31:04 GMT 1 Torquayterrier said:

A lot of what slaps says above hits nail on head. For someone who's supposed strength is heading you rarely see him power into the box to meet a cross, he's very reactive rather than proactive. Loiters about for ball to come to him rather than making things happen. If people have to keep going back to the away performance at Palace (pre Hodgson when they were an utter shambles and everyone scored against them) for one of his stand out games that speaks volumes.

This is absolutely correct. However - our atrocious ability to get decent balls in the box is enough to make even the most proactive of strikers turn stale.

How many times this season has Flo turned around and passed backwards when he had the chance to try whip it in? Having said that - Mounie should be screaming for the ball in the box - making runs and demanding it gets put where he wants it, then bollocking team mates for not doing. Instead he's just given up for the last 18 months.

The team has been hopeless at accommodating the strikers and equally the strikers have been a disgrace in terms of effort this season. Both terrible.

[otium (EPBS)]

Apr 22, 2019 5:40:47 GMT 1 lochnessterrier said:

Apr 21, 2019 14:09:35 GMT 1 Headless Chicken said:

Mounie has been rubbish for large parts, but the supply line has been bloody poor too. Not one of the front four have had more than the odd decent game.

If the supply line is so bad how come Grant can score twice as many in a relatively short space of time?

Because good strikers create from nothing. They are front foot and can find space whilst on the ball. Mounie could not find a ball in an aircraft hangar.

[joeyjoneslocker]

Apr 22, 2019 16:06:11 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Wouldn;t surprise me if Kongolo doesn;t fancy dropping to the 2nd tier and wants away, but in truth Id be amazed if we got our brass back for him if it came to that.
As good as he was last season, this season hes been a pale shadow of that IMO.

Hope he stays but also hope he gets his form back too.

Kongolo is under contract so surely he either stays put or we take an offer at least what we paid.
The ball would be in our court, unless I’m mistaken. 

[Captainslapper]

Apr 22, 2019 19:24:05 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

Apr 22, 2019 16:06:11 GMT 1 Captainslapper said:

Wouldn;t surprise me if Kongolo doesn;t fancy dropping to the 2nd tier and wants away, but in truth Id be amazed if we got our brass back for him if it came to that.
As good as he was last season, this season hes been a pale shadow of that IMO.

Hope he stays but also hope he gets his form back too.

Kongolo is under contract so surely he either stays put or we take an offer at least what we paid.
The ball would be in our court, unless I’m mistaken. 

Technically yes, youre right. But in reality it doesn;t tend to work like that these days.
A player wants out you do have the option of forcing them to stay, but run the risk they either down tools form-wise and / or become a negative influence around the dressing room.. or you get what you can for him.
The power is with the players really.
Keeping an unhappy player doesn;t make much sense. He probably won;t be very good on the pitch and because of that will be a quickly depreciating asset anyway.

Not saying Kongolo is like that as i wouldn;t know, but he certainly wouldn't be the first to force his way out of a club he no longer wants to be at.

To be honest, I haven;t seen much from him this season to think he couldn;t be replaced fairly easily for a lot less than we paid for him.

[Amigo]

Apr 22, 2019 18:39:32 GMT 1 otium (EPBS) said:

Apr 22, 2019 5:40:47 GMT 1 lochnessterrier said:

If the supply line is so bad how come Grant can score twice as many in a relatively short space of time?

Because good strikers create from nothing. They are front foot and can find space whilst on the ball. Mounie could not find a ball in an aircraft hangar.

Not necessarily true. Plenty of great strikers that needed a supply. Lineker, Van Nistelrooy, Huntelaar, Inzaghi all brilliant goalscorers but very rarely scored goals out of nothing.