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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 13:45:27 GMT 1
Not looking good for them, League One could be missing 2 teams if nothing is sorted soon for Bury and Bolton
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Jul 25, 2019 21:20:48 GMT 1
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Post by yappledapple on Jul 25, 2019 21:20:48 GMT 1
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Post by Tiro on Jul 27, 2019 20:17:12 GMT 1
Here’s my question for what it’s worth; it’s all well and good the EFL taking their ball home now, but should they not take responsibility for having let Bury play with it for 8 months or so? It’s not as if they did this in secret. Surely they’re culpable for not being thorough and carrying through procedure, no?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 27, 2019 20:35:10 GMT 1
Maybe we could get Harry Bunn back on a free. He’s still there! Good luck Bury.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 27, 2019 20:53:46 GMT 1
I'm glad there's some genuine interest and good wishes on here for the club and their supporters. Makes me glad that the growth of our club hasn't resulted in us going all elitist on topics like this, that could arguably be a case of but for the grace of God etc.
I don't know enough about Bury, but have they been affected by some supporters defecting to FC Utd or Salford City?
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Post by 28901 on Jul 27, 2019 21:32:55 GMT 1
I used to enjoy the trips there when we got both ends.
Good luck to them. A club with a much better history than a lot who may belittle them
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Post by shawsie on Jul 27, 2019 21:41:53 GMT 1
Here’s my question for what it’s worth; it’s all well and good the EFL taking their ball home now, but should they not take responsibility for having let Bury play with it for 8 months or so? It’s not as if they did this in secret. Surely they’re culpable for not being thorough and carrying through procedure, no? Spot on. The EFL hierarchy are utterly clueless - how else do you explain how the ownership at forest, leeds under cellino, bury, bolton, charlton, birmingham passes the fit and proper test?! The only bigger embarassment is paying fortunes to bang average at best players - c20k pw average salary in the championship is absurd. |
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Post by Tiro on Jul 27, 2019 22:32:37 GMT 1
Here’s my question for what it’s worth; it’s all well and good the EFL taking their ball home now, but should they not take responsibility for having let Bury play with it for 8 months or so? It’s not as if they did this in secret. Surely they’re culpable for not being thorough and carrying through procedure, no? Spot on. The EFL hierarchy are utterly clueless - how else do you explain how the ownership at forest, leeds under cellino, bury, bolton, charlton, birmingham passes the fit and proper test?! The only bigger embarassment is paying fortunes to bang average at best players - c20k pw average salary in the championship is absurd. Absolutely. I don’t claim to be an expert or have all the info’ in hand so I may have missed a very obvious explanation. But from where I stand, this just looks as though the EFL are trying to cover their tracks and shrug off claims against their own negligence should it come to Bury going under. In other words, they’re cleaning up their own shit because they too are flapping. You’re right, they probably carried some favour and gave the ‘owners’ some leeway in order to save what are historic clubs because they recognise that it’s not worth the fall-out. They’ve gotten away with it in the past and clubs have managed to be bought and sold despite large debts. In this instance they’ve properly fucked it and are now at very serious risk of having clean up the mess of a club dying before them and leaving a whole in the league. That does not however expunge the gross financial misconduct of that absolute fucking chancer Stuart Day (who’s a Town fan by the way, not that it matters). I feel sorry for Daly in some respects because he’s clearly out of his depth and probably did start out with the best of intentions to save the club - he will be seen as the captain that went with his ship. But, as we all know, it won’t be the EFL, Day or Daly that loose out, it will be the innocent fans who stood by and paid their hard earned monies under shitty circumstances that loose everything. |
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Post by yappledapple on Jul 30, 2019 20:14:26 GMT 1
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 30, 2019 21:13:04 GMT 1
I'm glad there's some genuine interest and good wishes on here for the club and their supporters. Makes me glad that the growth of our club hasn't resulted in us going all elitist on topics like this, that could arguably be a case of but for the grace of God etc. I don't know enough about Bury, but have they been affected by some supporters defecting to FC Utd or Salford City? I don't think it's the new local clubs, rather the big clubs. FC United did get larger attendces at Gigg Lane, but only when they first formed. I lived there for a bit and I knew two brothers who watched Bury as kids, but then reverted to Liverpool. Another mate supported United and most of his mates seemed to too, but at least they always had (Manc Paddys!). I suspect it's only going to get worse for them, unless some of the plastics start supporting their local team again and taking their kids. |
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Post by space hardware on Jul 30, 2019 21:20:32 GMT 1
I'm glad there's some genuine interest and good wishes on here for the club and their supporters. Makes me glad that the growth of our club hasn't resulted in us going all elitist on topics like this, that could arguably be a case of but for the grace of God etc. I don't know enough about Bury, but have they been affected by some supporters defecting to FC Utd or Salford City? I don't think it's the new local clubs, rather the big clubs. FC United did get larger attendces at Gigg Lane, but only when they first formed. I lived there for a bit and I knew two brothers who watched Bury as kids, but then reverted to Liverpool. Another mate supported United and most of his mates seemed to too, but at least they always had (Manc Paddys!). I suspect it's only going to get worse for them, unless some of the plastics start supporting their local team again and taking their kids. Can't see that happening, unfortunately. TV is king these days so whichever clubs are on the most tend to monopolise the support of the kids. I'm from Huddersfield but now live in a village up above Sowerby Bridge and, I can only go on what is happening at my son's school, pretty much all of the local kids interested in football are fans of either Man City or Liverpool. There are a couple of Town fans, including my lad 😃, but that's it. There are no Halifax Town fans at all. Depressing. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 30, 2019 21:39:54 GMT 1
I don't think it's the new local clubs, rather the big clubs. FC United did get larger attendces at Gigg Lane, but only when they first formed. I lived there for a bit and I knew two brothers who watched Bury as kids, but then reverted to Liverpool. Another mate supported United and most of his mates seemed to too, but at least they always had (Manc Paddys!). I suspect it's only going to get worse for them, unless some of the plastics start supporting their local team again and taking their kids. Can't see that happening, unfortunately. TV is king these days so whichever clubs are on the most tend to monopolise the support of the kids. I'm from Huddersfield but now live in a village up above Sowerby Bridge and, I can only go on what is happening at my son's school, pretty much all of the local kids interested in football are fans of either Man City or Liverpool. There are a couple of Town fans, including my lad 😃, but that's it. There are no Halifax Town fans at all. Depressing. The only Bury fans I knew were die hards. Went to a game once when we didn't have one and the average age was noticeably older than at Town. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jul 31, 2019 13:09:12 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 13:49:10 GMT 1
I certainly hope bury and Bolton can sort things out and for what ever reasons if you live beyond your needs you will at some stage pay for it. with all the money in the game it shoudnt have come to this but lets hope for a good outcome.it nearly happened to us remember |
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Post by yappledapple on Aug 1, 2019 13:23:35 GMT 1
Anyone listen to TalkSport this morning? Owner Steve Dale did his first public interview about the situation. In short, debts were huge when he took over; he’s trying to sort it but EFL, in his words, just keep beating them with a stick!
He also stated he was very ill with terminal leukaemia.
Very plausible in his explanations but there are always two sides to a story and this is only one of them.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 1, 2019 13:27:33 GMT 1
Anyone listen to TalkSport this morning? Owner Steve Dale did his first public interview about the situation. In short, debts were huge when he took over; he’s trying to sort it but EFL, in his words, just keep beating them with a stick! He also stated he was very ill with terminal leukaemia. Very plausible in his explanations but there are always two sides to a story and this is only one of them. FL say that his takeover went ahead before they had carried out all of their checks. Not a smart move. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Aug 1, 2019 14:40:34 GMT 1
Missing out on signing Billing has been a big distraction for them ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 15:15:32 GMT 1
Anyone listen to TalkSport this morning? Owner Steve Dale did his first public interview about the situation. In short, debts were huge when he took over; he’s trying to sort it but EFL, in his words, just keep beating them with a stick! He also stated he was very ill with terminal leukaemia. Very plausible in his explanations but there are always two sides to a story and this is only one of them. He’s got a lot of work to do before anything he says can be taken seriously. You can’t go through the process of buying a club and all the diligence that takes, and then six months later run through admin and exit via a CVA which results in 75% of non footballing debt being written off and then moan about the debts being huge. What he’s effectively saying is he shouldn’t have bought the club in the first place if he didn’t have a plan or funds that could service the debt that was in the company, and last November or whenever it was, his diligence should have thrown out that Bury FC is too big a business with too small income for him to make work.....and let someone else buy it who could make it work (or let it disappear into the non league club it realistically probably needs to be if Bury are to continue to exist). Look him up on the Companies House web site Steven Derek Dale...pretty much every business he has been involved with has been dissolved. It’s what he does. He will likely continue to spout bullshit deflection and do whatever it is that he does which likely is for his benefit. He spent £1 on buying control of Bury...and 7 months have passed without him answering the EFLs pretty basic questions. You’ve got to ask why, Phil Hodgkinson managed to answer those questions easily enough. Everything that’s wrong about this points at Steven Dale, not the EFL. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 2, 2019 23:01:58 GMT 1
Next weeks game v. Accrington Stanley just been called off by EFL, sad to say....it's not looking good for you, Shakers fans!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2019 23:03:47 GMT 1
2nd game of the season at Accrington now postponed. Would hate to be a Bury fan at the moment.
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Post by yappledapple on Aug 3, 2019 0:00:46 GMT 1
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Post by irverino on Aug 3, 2019 8:35:56 GMT 1
I have to agree with the Bury Chairman in this case, why were the EFL so quick to postpone a game over a week away that is short stroll down the road to some (Booby), surely more time & commonsense could of been offered for the sake of both set of fans.....caring EFL!
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 3, 2019 12:01:53 GMT 1
Bury's second game now postponed.
Bolton travelled to Wycombe with only three professional outfield players.
Meanwhile Sanchez still picking up £0.5m per week even though not being picked regularly.
The game's broken.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 3, 2019 12:31:29 GMT 1
Bury's second game now postponed. Bolton travelled to Wycombe with only three professional outfield players. Meanwhile Sanchez still picking up £0.5m per week even though not being picked regularly. The game's broken. 😒🤬😡 It is shocking, but just read some of the stuff on here. We have people stronly questioning our level of spending and elsewhere stating they aren't interested in the finances. Ultimately the respective board's, managers and EFL are at fault, but some fans can hardly complain with their demanding and ignorant nature. My bet is the same folk will also be the biggest moaners if we end up like Bolton or Bury. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2019 13:22:42 GMT 1
Bury's second game now postponed. Bolton travelled to Wycombe with only three professional outfield players. Meanwhile Sanchez still picking up £0.5m per week even though not being picked regularly. The game's broken. 😒🤬😡 It is shocking, but just read some of the stuff on here. We have people stronly questioning our level of spending and elsewhere stating they aren't interested in the finances. Ultimately the respective board's, managers and EFL are at fault, but some fans can hardly complain with their demanding and ignorant nature. My bet is the same folk will also be the biggest moaners if we end up like Bolton or Bury. they would I agree. its a bad situation at Bolton and bury and the illness of the chairman adds to the situation. hope it all gets sorted |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 3, 2019 14:18:52 GMT 1
Bury have always been a decent little club hope it gets sorted ! I know how we would feel !
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 12, 2019 21:18:05 GMT 1
Come on you twat, let them survive
Bury staff have called on owner Steve Dale to accept an offer to buy the financially embattled League One club.
The call came as the English Football League gave Bury until 09:00 BST on Tuesday to show how they plan to pay off creditors - or face having their next with game Gillingham suspended.
A statement said the offer is "the only lifeline for the future of the club".
"We implore Steve Dale to accept it, as it has the full backing of all of the senior staff at Bury FC," it added.
Dale previously said he will not sell until financial stability is restored.
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