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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 16, 2019 0:06:41 GMT 1
Who the asked you for your opinion? What's it got to do with you? Nothing mate jog on. Who asked you for your's? What has anything to do with you? Jog on? Really? Are you some sort of Moaner wannabe? I've never actually seen you offer any opinion all you do is abuse other people. If you got an opinion on Elphick let's hear it, if not,as I said, jog on cos you're a right boring sod. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Jun 16, 2019 0:07:53 GMT 1
Ah so now the issue isn't that chanpionship clubs want 30 year old centre halves, it's that after they get promoted with them they might get relegated again. Got you. Yeah because of there old men centre backs. I can't count the number of centre backs at 30 plus at the top level who can still cut it. you didn't say top level, you said championship. Clearly, the evidence shows that having 30 year old centre backs did not so you being promoted from the championship. Whether they are good enough for the premier league is immaterial. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jun 16, 2019 0:08:12 GMT 1
What's that got to do with getting promoted out of the championship? Are you saying this guy is going to be first choice and fire us to promotion? He's a squad player, cover for Kongolo and Schindler although if both of them go we look weak in that department. When did a centre back ever fire any team to promotion. Do you know how football works? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 16, 2019 0:11:01 GMT 1
Are you saying this guy is going to be first choice and fire us to promotion? He's a squad player, cover for Kongolo and Schindler although if both of them go we look weak in that department. When did a centre back ever fire any team to promotion. Do you know how football works? Zzzzzz....yes I do. Strikers will fire you to promotion, anyone who can score goals, sadly Town seem to avoid the thorny issue of goalscorers. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jun 16, 2019 0:11:48 GMT 1
Who asked you for your's? What has anything to do with you? Jog on? Really? Are you some sort of Moaner wannabe? I've never actually seen you offer any opinion all you do is abuse other people. If you got an opinion on Elphick let's hear it, if not,as I said, jog on cos you're a right boring sod. My opinion will be formed when I see him play for Town next season. Unlike your consistent knee-jerk sniping; and THAT is the product of a boring sod. |
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Post by BlueValour on Jun 16, 2019 0:11:56 GMT 1
Shit thread get a fucking life If having a life means that you make posts like this then I'm glad that I don't have a life! |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 16, 2019 0:14:47 GMT 1
I've never actually seen you offer any opinion all you do is abuse other people. If you got an opinion on Elphick let's hear it, if not,as I said, jog on cos you're a right boring sod. My opinion will be formed when I see him play for Town next season. Unlike your consistent knee-jerk sniping; and THAT is the product of a boring sod. Unless we are going to play with 3 centre backs or Kongolo goes to play at full back we might be in for a long wait for him to play. If we have signed him for anything other than a squad player then I'll be really surprised, he's only been given a 12 month deal, that suggests to me he isn't here long term, just as cover. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Jun 16, 2019 0:15:41 GMT 1
When did a centre back ever fire any team to promotion. Do you know how football works? Zzzzzz....yes I do. Strikers will fire you to promotion, anyone who can score goals, sadly Town seem to avoid the thorny issue of goalscorers. So why did you type about firing to promotion in relation to a defender? Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Any excuse to chipe. |
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Post by blueray4 on Jun 16, 2019 0:16:49 GMT 1
My opinion will be formed when I see him play for Town next season. Unlike your consistent knee-jerk sniping; and THAT is the product of a boring sod. Unless we are going to play with 3 centre backs or Kongolo goes to play at full back we might be in for a long wait for him to play. If we have signed him for anything other than a squad player then I'll be really surprised, he's only been given a 12 month deal, that suggests to me he isn't here long term, just as cover. 2 year deal with 1 year option. 2021/22 |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 16, 2019 0:18:19 GMT 1
Zzzzzz....yes I do. Strikers will fire you to promotion, anyone who can score goals, sadly Town seem to avoid the thorny issue of goalscorers. So why did you type about firing to promotion in relation to a defender? Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Any excuse to chipe. the 'thorny issue' being sorted probably this week.. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 16, 2019 0:28:00 GMT 1
So why did you type about firing to promotion in relation to a defender? Zzzzzzzzzzzz. Any excuse to chipe. the 'thorny issue' being sorted probably this week.. Let's hope so. |
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Post by impact on Jun 16, 2019 0:34:12 GMT 1
Ah so now the issue isn't that chanpionship clubs want 30 year old centre halves, it's that after they get promoted with them they might get relegated again. Got you. Yeah because of there old men centre backs. I can't count the number of centre backs at 30 plus at the top level who can still cut it. Kompany, Otamendi, Luiz, Koscielny, Vertonghen, Alderweireld. That's just from the top 6 in the prem. |
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Post by arry11 on Jun 16, 2019 0:55:51 GMT 1
Yeah, apart from the 3 clubs who got promoted from the championship last season. Norwich Klose 31 Sheff Utd Stearman 31 Barsham 30 Cranie 32 Villa Chester 30 Elphick 31 Yeah but them 3 will end up relegated. If Villa do get relegated it won't have anything to do with Elphick. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 1:46:43 GMT 1
Takes Stankovic one step further away from a first team place = priceless signing.
He’s a nice lad and all that, but nowhere close to being good enough for a top half Championship side. 🤷♂️
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Post by ritchie on Jun 16, 2019 2:07:19 GMT 1
Schindler Kongolo Elphick Stankovic Looks strong - Kongolo & Elphick vs Hef & Hudson Lose one of the top 2 and it doesn’t Concerned about his injury record? Possible concern yes He’s 31 not 36. Lots of experience and a leader - put it like this he wouldn’t have downed tools like other centre half not named above good assessment spesh |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 16, 2019 3:41:43 GMT 1
I think this is a great signing. It doesn’t matter whether JS has heard of Tommy, what matters is it’s JS’s signing and Tommy will be well aware of what JS wants. No doubt that we’ve looked at AV(plus Sheffield United/Norwich) to see who was being left behind, then cherry pick a player or two, who has that winning feeling plus who are absolute professionals. That’s what we need as a club right now, professionals and to get that winning feeling back.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jun 16, 2019 8:52:29 GMT 1
Dunno. He gets my support and I hope it works out, but the Puncheon spectre haunts me - you could see there was a good footballer there, but perhaps wrong time, wrong place, wrong reasons for coming, wrong reasons for signing him?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 16, 2019 10:00:55 GMT 1
What's that got to do with getting promoted out of the championship? Are you saying this guy is going to be first choice and fire us to promotion? He's a squad player, cover for Kongolo and Schindler although if both of them go we look weak in that department. Even if he is back up to Shindler & Kongolo I have no doubt he'll be solid cover which will be crucial in a long championship season. Do I think he'll fire us to promotion? I don't think I've ever seen a defender to that tbf. Going back to my original post, what has those 3 teams getting relegated from the premier league got to do with us signing Elphick? |
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Post by royrace on Jun 16, 2019 10:39:46 GMT 1
Dunno. He gets my support and I hope it works out, but the Puncheon spectre haunts me - you could see there was a good footballer there, but perhaps wrong time, wrong place, wrong reasons for coming, wrong reasons for signing him? Probably all of the above, palace fans to a man rated him but said his legs had gone which was pretty much bang on. |
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Post by ldotm on Jun 16, 2019 10:48:55 GMT 1
Good squad signing but if Kongolo and Schindler both go and he's first choice it'll be slightly worrying. It's a bit underwhelming, no one really wants a 30 plus centre back at this level...only Town apparently. I hope the rest of the signings are a bit more exciting than this fella. Fuck me. |
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Post by impact on Jun 16, 2019 10:56:39 GMT 1
Are you saying this guy is going to be first choice and fire us to promotion? He's a squad player, cover for Kongolo and Schindler although if both of them go we look weak in that department. Even if he is back up to Shindler & Kongolo I have no doubt he'll be solid cover which will be crucial in a long championship season. Do I think he'll fire us to promotion? I don't think I've ever seen a defender to that tbf. Going back to my original post, what has those 3 teams getting relegated from the premier league got to do with us signing Elphick? Our centre half literally fired us to promotion in 2017! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 10:57:34 GMT 1
Takes Stankovic one step further away from a first team place = priceless signing. He’s a nice lad and all that, but nowhere close to being good enough for a top half Championship side. 🤷♂️ I wonder how you come to the conclusion we are and will be a top half championship/?.only results will determine whatkind of side we are and with lots more changes to come non of us knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 11:00:42 GMT 1
Yeah, apart from the 3 clubs who got promoted from the championship last season. Norwich Klose 31 Sheff Utd Stearman 31 Barsham 30 Cranie 32 Villa Chester 30 Elphick 31 Yeah but them 3 will end up relegated. So will every team that’s promoted from now on unless they have £200M to invest. The gulf is far too wide now to bridge in one summer. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 11:02:54 GMT 1
Yeah but them 3 will end up relegated. So will every team that’s promoted from now on unless they have £200M to invest. The gulf is far too wide now to bridge in one summer. you are correct on your last line joe. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 11:10:15 GMT 1
Takes Stankovic one step further away from a first team place = priceless signing. He’s a nice lad and all that, but nowhere close to being good enough for a top half Championship side. 🤷♂️ I agree I think Stankovic is not good enough. He was terrible when he played centre half last season. He reminds me of boom boom mccombe. Hes not defensively sound and makes big mistakes that lead to goals. If he’s a starter this year I don’t see us competing for the top 6. Being OK in possession- no more than that, is not a substitute for defensive solidity and nouse. Keeping Schindler and Kongolo is an absolute must if we’re not to undo the brilliant work of the last 5 years and compete at the top of the championship. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 11:17:00 GMT 1
So will every team that’s promoted from now on unless they have £200M to invest. The gulf is far too wide now to bridge in one summer. you are correct on your last line joe. Might not be 100 right about in my first line but it will be generally be the case going forward. The premier league is an unregulated market. Soon the barriers to entry will be too great for new independent operators to get into the club. They may get a one year ticket but they’ll have very little chance to stay. I haven’t followed villa much but their star striker managed how many for Swansea- 5 was it? Yet has twice hit 20+ in the championship. That’s an indication of the gulf. I remember looking at Leeds’ team last season when they were top and I couldn’t see one player who’d cut it in the premier league. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jun 16, 2019 11:18:09 GMT 1
Takes Stankovic one step further away from a first team place = priceless signing. He’s a nice lad and all that, but nowhere close to being good enough for a top half Championship side. 🤷♂️ I agree I think Stankovic is not good enough. He was terrible when he played centre half last season. He reminds me of boom boom mccombe. Hes not defensively sound and makes big mistakes that lead to goals. If he’s a starter this year I don’t see us competing for the top 6. Being OK in possession- no more than that, is not a substitute for defensive solidity and nouse. Keeping Schindler and Kongolo is an absolute must if we’re not to undo the brilliant work of the last 5 years and compete at the top of the championship. It's not an absolute must, especially if we also sign Barbet (however ulikely that is). Don't get me wrong, I'd be delighted if we keep both, they'd possibly be the best pairing in the league. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 11:44:06 GMT 1
Takes Stankovic one step further away from a first team place = priceless signing. He’s a nice lad and all that, but nowhere close to being good enough for a top half Championship side. 🤷♂️ I wonder how you come to the conclusion we are and will be a top half championship/?.only results will determine whatkind of side we are and with lots more changes to come non of us knows. I haven’t said we are or will be a top half Championship side...what I’ve said is Stankovic is not really a good enough player for a club that has those kind of aspirations, and bringing in someone who will slot in ahead of him in the pecking order makes that top half a bit more likely. Obviously impossible to tell with much accuracy before the transfer window and first few months is out of the way, but my opinion is thatwith the squad we’ve got today I’d be expecting somewhere between about 5th and 14th...what’s your opinion? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 16, 2019 12:54:11 GMT 1
Tbf, the only negative comments I can find about the lad are from usual negative cock socks on here & twatter but they generally prove they know fuck all anyway. Nothing but praise from Villa, Bournemouth, Brighton & Hull fans. A very solid first signing imo, good luck to him.
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Post by ringdisco on Jun 16, 2019 12:55:21 GMT 1
you are correct on your last line joe. Might not be 100 right about in my first line but it will be generally be the case going forward. The premier league is an unregulated market. Soon the barriers to entry will be too great for new independent operators to get into the club. They may get a one year ticket but they’ll have very little chance to stay. I haven’t followed villa much but their star striker managed how many for Swansea- 5 was it? Yet has twice hit 20+ in the championship. That’s an indication of the gulf. I remember looking at Leeds’ team last season when they were top and I couldn’t see one player who’d cut it in the premier league. Villa have already bought a new striker. |
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