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Post by pixie on Jun 16, 2019 13:28:05 GMT 1
It all depends on whether the subject is a serious one or just light-hearted. Surely you can tell the difference.  Yep, I think I've got it. The difference is that Nick is a light-hearted nutter whereas you are a serious nutter. Although I've probably done my research before giving an opinion about a serious topic, if you disagree, then I'm a nutter. OK, got it. |
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Post by drewden on Jun 16, 2019 13:33:06 GMT 1
There's always nuts in topics.
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 16, 2019 13:34:45 GMT 1
I think this is a great signing. It doesn’t matter whether JS has heard of Tommy, what matters is it’s JS’s signing and Tommy will be well aware of what JS wants. No doubt that we’ve looked at AV(plus Sheffield United/Norwich) to see who was being left behind, then cherry pick a player or two, who has that winning feeling plus who are absolute professionals. That’s what we need as a club right now, professionals and to get that winning feeling back. The bit I've put in bold. Exactly that. The biggest difference last year vs the previous 2 is the level of professionalism. We had a squad containing a few "disgraces" last year. Whether he's good enough to be first choice or a squad player at a club aiming to be top end Championship, he comes across as a leader & consummate professional. That shift in attitude alone is the biggest thing we need to solve. Schindler & Kongolo will be difficult to keep hold of in the Championship. Both are too good for this level & it would be a hell of a coup if we could keep them. The flip side of that is that if they do leave, they won't be cheap, so we should be able to afford good quality replacements, knowing that we have a solid leader in place that we've just signed so that we're not forced into a panic buy. As for the claim that JS won't know who he is. Where does that idea come from? If I was looking to get into football management & there was a club abroad who had me lined up to replace their current manager I'd be making damn certain that I knew about the league they were operating in. I'd make sure I knew about as many players as possible who could potentially fit into how I wanted to play. I'd ensure that the scouts & I were on the same wavelength when looking at players. Is it a case that if he's shit we can blame JS, but if he's good we don't have to give him credit? |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jun 16, 2019 13:53:53 GMT 1
I think this is a great signing. It doesn’t matter whether JS has heard of Tommy, what matters is it’s JS’s signing and Tommy will be well aware of what JS wants. No doubt that we’ve looked at AV(plus Sheffield United/Norwich) to see who was being left behind, then cherry pick a player or two, who has that winning feeling plus who are absolute professionals. That’s what we need as a club right now, professionals and to get that winning feeling back. The bit I've put in bold. Exactly that. The biggest difference last year vs the previous 2 is the level of professionalism. We had a squad containing a few "disgraces" last year. Whether he's good enough to be first choice or a squad player at a club aiming to be top end Championship, he comes across as a leader & consummate professional. That shift in attitude alone is the biggest thing we need to solve. Schindler & Kongolo will be difficult to keep hold of in the Championship. Both are too good for this level & it would be a hell of a coup if we could keep them. The flip side of that is that if they do leave, they won't be cheap, so we should be able to afford good quality replacements, knowing that we have a solid leader in place that we've just signed so that we're not forced into a panic buy. As for the claim that JS won't know who he is. Where does that idea come from? If I was looking to get into football management & there was a club abroad who had me lined up to replace their current manager I'd be making damn certain that I knew about the league they were operating in. I'd make sure I knew about as many players as possible who could potentially fit into how I wanted to play. I'd ensure that the scouts & I were on the same wavelength when looking at players. Is it a case that if he's shit we can blame JS, but if he's good we don't have to give him credit? 1) Jan has already said he's been studying the Championship for some time, having known we were going down not long into his tenure and 2) Even if he didn't initially, that's why we have scouts! I'm sure Jan will have done some assessment since. To be frank, it was probably a daft throw away comment. Most of the responses have been deflections; not addressing the question raised. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 14:30:45 GMT 1
I wonder how you come to the conclusion we are and will be a top half championship/?.only results will determine whatkind of side we are and with lots more changes to come non of us knows. I haven’t said we are or will be a top half Championship side...what I’ve said is Stankovic is not really a good enough player for a club that has those kind of aspirations, and bringing in someone who will slot in ahead of him in the pecking order makes that top half a bit more likely. Obviously impossible to tell with much accuracy before the transfer window and first few months is out of the way, but my opinion is thatwith the squad we’ve got today I’d be expecting somewhere between about 5th and 14th...what’s your opinion? that's fair enough and your expectation is not over the top butpatience will be needed and that I'm afraid is in short supply at times but I certainly think the rebuilding will not be complete in this first transfer window. |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 16, 2019 14:44:14 GMT 1
Cracking signing, with promotion winning experience, on a free. What’s not to like? Wasn’t Jacko this kinda age when we signed him?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 15:05:26 GMT 1
Experience. Exactly what we've been missing. Think he'll be a great signing.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 16, 2019 16:22:12 GMT 1
I think this is a great signing. It doesn’t matter whether JS has heard of Tommy, what matters is it’s JS’s signing and Tommy will be well aware of what JS wants. No doubt that we’ve looked at AV(plus Sheffield United/Norwich) to see who was being left behind, then cherry pick a player or two, who has that winning feeling plus who are absolute professionals. That’s what we need as a club right now, professionals and to get that winning feeling back. The bit I've put in bold. Exactly that. The biggest difference last year vs the previous 2 is the level of professionalism. We had a squad containing a few "disgraces" last year. Whether he's good enough to be first choice or a squad player at a club aiming to be top end Championship, he comes across as a leader & consummate professional. That shift in attitude alone is the biggest thing we need to solve. Schindler & Kongolo will be difficult to keep hold of in the Championship. Both are too good for this level & it would be a hell of a coup if we could keep them. The flip side of that is that if they do leave, they won't be cheap, so we should be able to afford good quality replacements, knowing that we have a solid leader in place that we've just signed so that we're not forced into a panic buy. As for the claim that JS won't know who he is. Where does that idea come from? If I was looking to get into football management & there was a club abroad who had me lined up to replace their current manager I'd be making damn certain that I knew about the league they were operating in. I'd make sure I knew about as many players as possible who could potentially fit into how I wanted to play. I'd ensure that the scouts & I were on the same wavelength when looking at players. Is it a case that if he's shit we can blame JS, but if he's good we don't have to give him credit? When I say ‘JS won’t know who he is’, I mean it from the point of never having laid eyes on him playing (live action or watching on tv). After JS took the job as manager, Tommy played 7 games for Villa and then got injured. During that time, I can’t imagine JS gave a fook about anything but Town, let alone what was happening in The Championship. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 16, 2019 16:42:54 GMT 1
The bit I've put in bold. Exactly that. The biggest difference last year vs the previous 2 is the level of professionalism. We had a squad containing a few "disgraces" last year. Whether he's good enough to be first choice or a squad player at a club aiming to be top end Championship, he comes across as a leader & consummate professional. That shift in attitude alone is the biggest thing we need to solve. Schindler & Kongolo will be difficult to keep hold of in the Championship. Both are too good for this level & it would be a hell of a coup if we could keep them. The flip side of that is that if they do leave, they won't be cheap, so we should be able to afford good quality replacements, knowing that we have a solid leader in place that we've just signed so that we're not forced into a panic buy. As for the claim that JS won't know who he is. Where does that idea come from? If I was looking to get into football management & there was a club abroad who had me lined up to replace their current manager I'd be making damn certain that I knew about the league they were operating in. I'd make sure I knew about as many players as possible who could potentially fit into how I wanted to play. I'd ensure that the scouts & I were on the same wavelength when looking at players. Is it a case that if he's shit we can blame JS, but if he's good we don't have to give him credit? When I say ‘JS won’t know who he is’, I mean it from the point of never having laid eyes on him playing (live action or watching on tv). After JS took the job as manager, Tommy played 7 games for Villa and then got injured. During that time, I can’t imagine JS gave a fook about anything but Town, let alone what was happening in The Championship. Given that he's known he was lined up to take the HTFC job for quite a long time before most of us had even heard of him, I think it's highly likely that he had a pretty decent working knowledge of English football (or at least made use of the services of scouts who did) for some time before he arrived. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 16, 2019 16:57:01 GMT 1
When I say ‘JS won’t know who he is’, I mean it from the point of never having laid eyes on him playing (live action or watching on tv). After JS took the job as manager, Tommy played 7 games for Villa and then got injured. During that time, I can’t imagine JS gave a fook about anything but Town, let alone what was happening in The Championship. Given that he's know he was lined up to take the HTFC job for quite a long time before most of us had even heard of him, I think it's highly likely that he had a pretty decent working knowledge of English football (or at least made use of the services of scouts who did). I’ve heard that line, “We have been following JS for quite some time”, but I don’t believe it for a moment. Don’t forget, JS was appointed after Farke at BD II which means we have most likely monitored JS for 18 months max. If you are monitoring someone, you don’t normally go and tell them straight away. Are we then assuming that JS spent any spare time from coaching his BD II, monitoring the English leagues in case he got a job that might not ever happen? Personally I think we were told a story to placate we were getting a 4th division coach at a PL team. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jun 16, 2019 17:08:41 GMT 1
Given that he's know he was lined up to take the HTFC job for quite a long time before most of us had even heard of him, I think it's highly likely that he had a pretty decent working knowledge of English football (or at least made use of the services of scouts who did). I’ve heard that line, “We have been following JS for quite some time”, but I don’t believe it for a moment. Don’t forget, JS was appointed after Farke at BD II which means we have most likely monitored JS for 18 months max. If you are monitoring someone, you don’t normally go and tell them straight away. Are we then assuming that JS spent any spare time from coaching his BD II, monitoring the English leagues in case he got a job that might not ever happen? Personally I think we were told a story to placate we were getting a 4th division coach at a PL team. The story (true or otherwise) was that he was still at Bochum when we first started looking at him. Fair point that he may have been unaware that he was being monitored. I think I vaguely recall reading that he knew, but I can't remember where so could be a false memory. |
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Post by davethesprout on Jun 16, 2019 17:13:31 GMT 1
Cracking signing, with promotion winning experience, on a free. What’s not to like? Wasn’t Jacko this kinda age when we signed him? On £25 grand a week at Villa not coming to be on the bench ! Great Signing ! Whilst we can afford the wages ! Just Need a Goalie Now to calm the nerves ! |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 16, 2019 17:31:12 GMT 1
Time to start getting him a song, good last name.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 16, 2019 17:47:22 GMT 1
Time to start getting him a song, good last name. He's more hair than Nick It's lustrous and thick He's not a baldie He's tommy elphick |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jun 16, 2019 17:56:34 GMT 1
Time to start getting him a song, good last name. Yep, rhymes with: Thick Nick Lick Dick |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 16, 2019 17:58:31 GMT 1
Time to start getting him a song, good last name. Yep, rhymes with: Thick Nick Lick Dick Yup .. I journeyed down that road |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 16, 2019 17:58:54 GMT 1
Time to start getting him a song, good last name. Yep, rhymes with: Thick Nick Lick Dick Last name brings images of an elephant imo. Or.... Elphicko, elphicko running down the wing Elphicko elphicko Hudders king. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 16, 2019 18:07:48 GMT 1
Time to start getting him a song, good last name. Same as the Kolo Toure song but with Tommy Elphick name inserted. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jun 16, 2019 18:20:09 GMT 1
Yep, rhymes with: Thick Nick Lick Dick Last name brings images of an elephant imo. Or.... Elphicko, elphicko running down the wing Elphicko elphicko Hudders king. Isn't that your username on the Spanish Town forum? |
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Post by PellonTerrier on Jun 16, 2019 19:08:58 GMT 1
Last name brings images of an elephant imo. Or.... Elphicko, elphicko running down the wing Elphicko elphicko Hudders king. Isn't that your username on the Spanish Town forum? He's a centre half, if he's running down the wing somethings gone wrong tactically |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2019 21:36:54 GMT 1
When I say ‘JS won’t know who he is’, I mean it from the point of never having laid eyes on him playing (live action or watching on tv). After JS took the job as manager, Tommy played 7 games for Villa and then got injured. During that time, I can’t imagine JS gave a fook about anything but Town, let alone what was happening in The Championship. Given that he's known he was lined up to take the HTFC job for quite a long time before most of us had even heard of him, I think it's highly likely that he had a pretty decent working knowledge of English football (or at least made use of the services of scouts who did) for some time before he arrived. well said! |
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Post by mayorofcov (BFHB) Honours on Jun 16, 2019 22:19:26 GMT 1
Shit thread get a fucking life If having a life means that you make posts like this then I'm glad that I don't have a life! I apologise my friend for the post can’t even remember putting the fooker on due to copiouse amounts of Stella Artois Anyway looking at the people that have supported my drunken antics I look back on the reply and think ya need a beer or 10 or a new dress EEEES ONLY A DIRTY LXXDS BASTERD |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 16, 2019 22:26:21 GMT 1
Given that he's known he was lined up to take the HTFC job for quite a long time before most of us had even heard of him, I think it's highly likely that he had a pretty decent working knowledge of English football (or at least made use of the services of scouts who did) for some time before he arrived. well said! don't care how 'enthusiastic' Jan was about taking over a Premier club, if his and the club's focus had not turned to the championship by New Years Day they would have to be daft. Think the staff were preparing for it but not just as obviously as some of the players.. |
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Post by Town Duppy on Jun 16, 2019 22:43:47 GMT 1
Hopefully we will be his Paradise Club.
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Post by terriertim on Jun 16, 2019 22:59:47 GMT 1
The huge difference is Elphick will become a leader on and off the field. player that will run through brick walls for Jan and offer advice and mentoring to all those around him. This becomes "infectious" in a good way much as tw@ts like Billing. Zanka and Lossl to a certain degree spread bad feeling and in effect downed tools. The kind of "go to guy" that you like around you at work where nothing is too much trouble and when he offers his advice he does so on a two way street i.e listens and expects only loyalty in return.
Good signing for Town and will make an excellent double act with Schindler. All we need now is a confident keeps and my bet is Towns goals against will be one of the lowest in the division next season. This alone means that games can be won by the odd goal only and away points for draws at harder clubs will be easier to come by
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Post by mrbluesky on Jun 16, 2019 23:04:14 GMT 1
Superb signing for me ..... we need players with great attitude to dilute the toxic dressing room of the past season and Elphick has this in abundance , well scouted Town 👌
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Post by Mecha Corte on Jun 17, 2019 10:42:33 GMT 1
Yep, rhymes with: Thick Nick Lick Dick Last name brings images of an elephant imo. Or.... Elphicko, elphicko running down the wing Elphicko elphicko Hudders king.[/quote "Nurse." |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 17, 2019 11:47:51 GMT 1
Yep, rhymes with: Thick Nick Lick Dick Last name brings images of an elephant imo. Or.... Elphicko, elphicko running down the wing Elphicko elphicko Hudders king. Elphick reminds you of an elephant 🤨. Cos of starting with the same 2 letters ? Does Kongolo remind you of a Koala 🤔 |
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Post by CaptainHart on Jun 17, 2019 12:55:21 GMT 1
People need to remember Hudson's part in Schindler's transition to English football. If Shindler and/or Kongolo leave Elphick gives us more scope when we're looking for their replacement(s).
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jun 17, 2019 15:42:01 GMT 1
Can't see much to get too down over on this one. Photos can be misleading I know but he looks in decent shape for his age, it's not like we've picked up some fat knacker. Solid pro with plenty of experience in the league we are in and part of a promoted side. We have to cut our cloth to our budget and circumstances.
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