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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 29, 2019 15:03:12 GMT 1
Steve McLaren had been heavily linked . We've dodged a bullet then . Mr hair island must be kept away from our club at all costs
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Post by pettsy74 on Jun 29, 2019 15:04:14 GMT 1
Leave the running of our club to the adults Nick. Who would have believed Nick is in his late 50s? I would if you mean IQ
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 21:11:46 GMT 1
When ever our club appoint new personal whether it be backroom staff, players, or new owner, people on here seem to know best, and go into this doom and gloom scenario. For God's sake people running our club ain't stupid, it seems to me the club know the players and staff they are chasing to appoint, to get this club on course for a good crack at challenging for promotion again. Have trust and belief and see what blooms. ueafa coach that tells me all I need to know because you have to have a great understanding of the game to be able to reach that level. people on here who question his credentials talk tripe. what coaching level have they reached!?.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Jun 29, 2019 21:17:56 GMT 1
Who is coming in, ?? What a carry on. Matron!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 21:42:50 GMT 1
Just researched Colin Bell, admittedly mainly just through Wiki. He doesn't seem to have been involved with men's football for 7 or 8 years and had a rather chequered career as coach to men's football teams before that. Watched a few interviews on You-tube - done ok for the Irish girls but seems an absolute world away from professional men's football. I'll be amazed if he has any knowledge of Championship football in England. Obviously deserves a chance but silly haircut and streaks in his hair at 57 years of age is rather worrying ...
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Post by ritchie on Jun 29, 2019 22:10:54 GMT 1
Bilic will cost millions and Allardyce more so - why would he take us on in the champ. And why would we even want him. From what I’ve seen on Siewart I’m not even a fan but to be angry about not employing fat Sam or Bilic is weird. Weird post I was being ironic simpleton. And if you think employing the Ireland woman’s coach for Huddersfield town first eleven is a good appointment then you are puddled. It’s weird appointment and will fail. your 'irony' doesnt really make sense. are you saying we should have gone for a name or not? what was buhler when he arrived?
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Post by royrace on Jun 29, 2019 22:56:55 GMT 1
I was being ironic simpleton. And if you think employing the Ireland woman’s coach for Huddersfield town first eleven is a good appointment then you are puddled. It’s weird appointment and will fail. your 'irony' doesnt really make sense. are you saying we should have gone for a name or not? what was buhler when he arrived? Buhllers track record was what you’d expect from a coach coming into a club in the English championship and included mostly coaching grown men in men’s teams at a decent level. It’s (another) weird appointment like he says, doesn’t mean it’s not a good one but it doesn’t exactly inspire confidence does it and tbh I wouldn’t trust the club to organise a piss up in a brewery at the moment. You’re as good as your last game and the club recruitment wise has been a fucking shambles now for 12 months or more, all I hear from winter is it was wagners fault. Let’s wait and see but as has been said it’s another very uninspiring appointment and the fact it’s needed at all is a massive worry in itself. What’s next I wonder.
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Post by ritchie on Jun 29, 2019 23:08:44 GMT 1
your 'irony' doesnt really make sense. are you saying we should have gone for a name or not? what was buhler when he arrived? Buhllers track record was what you’d expect from a coach coming into a club in the English championship and included mostly coaching grown men in men’s teams at a decent level. It’s (another) weird appointment like he says, doesn’t mean it’s not a good one but it doesn’t exactly inspire confidence does it and tbh I wouldn’t trust the club to organise a piss up in a brewery at the moment. You’re as good as your last game and the club recruitment wise has been a fucking shambles now for 12 months or more, all I hear from winter is it was wagners fault. Let’s wait and see but as has been said it’s another very uninspiring appointment and the fact it’s needed at all is a massive worry in itself. What’s next I wonder. Some fair points but i dont really get what is an 'inspiring assistant manager appointment'? Certainly not 'merry go round' names for me. Not to de-value the role but I think one of the biggest parts of that role is being the good cop link between the manager and the squad Alot of pros say they dont have to like the manager, the assistant is the point of contact/man manager. We're not looking for a second manager....bell has good coaching experience and I imagine knows how to handle a squad
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Post by est1908 on Jun 29, 2019 23:30:17 GMT 1
your 'irony' doesnt really make sense. are you saying we should have gone for a name or not? what was buhler when he arrived? Buhllers track record was what you’d expect from a coach coming into a club in the English championship and included mostly coaching grown men in men’s teams at a decent level. It’s (another) weird appointment like he says, doesn’t mean it’s not a good one but it doesn’t exactly inspire confidence does it and tbh I wouldn’t trust the club to organise a piss up in a brewery at the moment. You’re as good as your last game and the club recruitment wise has been a fucking shambles now for 12 months or more, all I hear from winter is it was wagners fault. Let’s wait and see but as has been said it’s another very uninspiring appointment and the fact it’s needed at all is a massive worry in itself. What’s next I wonder. I was looking forward to next season, but I won't bother going now.....
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Post by willo on Jun 30, 2019 0:08:04 GMT 1
Just researched Colin Bell, admittedly mainly just through Wiki. He doesn't seem to have been involved with men's football for 7 or 8 years and had a rather chequered career as coach to men's football teams before that. Watched a few interviews on You-tube - done ok for the Irish girls but seems an absolute world away from professional men's football. I'll be amazed if he has any knowledge of Championship football in England. Obviously deserves a chance but silly haircut and streaks in his hair at 57 years of age is rather worrying ...
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David Cork! Now there’s a player I’d forgotten all about. Part of the 10-1 team if memory serves.
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Post by wigster on Jun 30, 2019 0:18:09 GMT 1
If you've got It, Flaunt it,
The Rod Stewart/David Cork look is back in fashion.
It could be a Syrup.
David Cork! Now there’s a player I’d forgotten all about. Part of the 10-1 team if memory serves. Correct, and Cork missed an easy chance early in the game. Town were actually on top at the beginning of the match ...
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Post by loumacari on Jun 30, 2019 0:20:11 GMT 1
Total shambles at the moment, a rudderless ship. Who next to join the coaching staff, Mark Sampson?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 0:41:44 GMT 1
Total shambles at the moment, a rudderless ship. Who next to join the coaching staff, Mark Sampson? Hardly rudderless, within 24 hours of Winkler leaving we have a coach with 23 years experience coaching German players at a more than decent level. Perhaps we should have seen what Terry McDermott is doing these days!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 30, 2019 7:25:19 GMT 1
Total shambles at the moment, a rudderless ship. Who next to join the coaching staff, Mark Sampson? Hardly rudderless, within 24 hours of Winkler leaving we have a coach with 23 years experience coaching German players at a more than decent level. Perhaps we should have seen what Terry McDermott is doing these days! Card school
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jun 30, 2019 7:56:35 GMT 1
Just googled TuS Koblenz - were Siewart and bell met - they’re in the German fifth tier and play here, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadion_OberwerthIt’s being watched by one man and his dog territory Bell hasn’t managed a men’s team since 2005 and that was another semi pro side - SC Preußen Münster ... never heard of them either! Clearly his talents have slipped under the radar of all the great (and not so great) clubs for decades as he’s not been involved with a senior professional men’s set up since Aaron Rowe was in nappies My fear is that siewart already struggles to command respect from the players because frankly he’s done nowt as a player or first team manager and then got off to uninspiring start. Bell is another with hardly any pedigree - especially at this level Also what is our sales pitch to potential players; a young lad doing the scouting, a youth team coach unfamiliar to English football who has drowned to date managing a first team side and now Ireland’s women’s manager as the assistant If this were Leeds making sieward and bell as their coaching team most would be laughing. We’ve just come off the back of earning nearly a quarter of a billion in the PL - bielsa showed what a good manager can do in terms of improving existing players - yet we’re taking massive punts on inexperienced hopefuls
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Post by sheps on Jun 30, 2019 8:07:40 GMT 1
I hope we never have one... Would look 10 times better Why, have you seen the new shirt? No. Just an opinion on how football shirts look generally.
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Post by cliffeterrier on Jun 30, 2019 8:13:24 GMT 1
Unfortunately this is inbred into the clubs DNA, we attempt to do everything on the cheap, we got lucky once we won't be so lucky again. I am not looking forward to this season at all, so far we have signed players from the lower leagues which considering our recent and parachute payments from the PL is not very inspiring. I hope I am proved wrong but I can see another challenging and disappointing season IMHO I think we will be in a relegation battle but should just have enough to survive.
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Post by Ox Terrier on Jun 30, 2019 8:28:03 GMT 1
Given that Winkler didn't come back for the start of preseason, I think Town were expecting to make a new appointment. They'll have probably been sorting it since before the end of the season. It won't have been a quick 24hr turnaround from scratch. So what if he's been managing the RoI women? My judgement of the whole management setup, including JS, starts in August when we play Derby.
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Post by htfc1908 on Jun 30, 2019 9:13:45 GMT 1
Given that Winkler didn't come back for the start of preseason, I think Town were expecting to make a new appointment. They'll have probably been sorting it since before the end of the season. It won't have been a quick 24hr turnaround from scratch. So what if he's been managing the RoI women? My judgement of the whole management setup, including JS, starts in August when we play Derby. The voice of reason
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 30, 2019 11:35:45 GMT 1
Just googled TuS Koblenz - were Siewart and bell met - they’re in the German fifth tier and play here, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadion_OberwerthIt’s being watched by one man and his dog territory Bell hasn’t managed a men’s team since 2005 and that was another semi pro side - SC Preußen Münster ... never heard of them either! Clearly his talents have slipped under the radar of all the great (and not so great) clubs for decades as he’s not been involved with a senior professional men’s set up since Aaron Rowe was in nappies My fear is that siewart already struggles to command respect from the players because frankly he’s done nowt as a player or first team manager and then got off to uninspiring start. Bell is another with hardly any pedigree - especially at this level Also what is our sales pitch to potential players; a young lad doing the scouting, a youth team coach unfamiliar to English football who has drowned to date managing a first team side and now Ireland’s women’s manager as the assistant If this were Leeds making sieward and bell as their coaching team most would be laughing. We’ve just come off the back of earning nearly a quarter of a billion in the PL - bielsa showed what a good manager can do in terms of improving existing players - yet we’re taking massive punts on inexperienced hopefuls Got to say, this is how it all appears to me as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 11:58:29 GMT 1
Total shambles at the moment, a rudderless ship. Who next to join the coaching staff, Mark Sampson? a rudderless ship? what a load of rubbish you spout
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 30, 2019 12:03:33 GMT 1
Just googled TuS Koblenz - were Siewart and bell met - they’re in the German fifth tier and play here, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadion_OberwerthIt’s being watched by one man and his dog territory Bell hasn’t managed a men’s team since 2005 and that was another semi pro side - SC Preußen Münster ... never heard of them either! Clearly his talents have slipped under the radar of all the great (and not so great) clubs for decades as he’s not been involved with a senior professional men’s set up since Aaron Rowe was in nappies My fear is that siewart already struggles to command respect from the players because frankly he’s done nowt as a player or first team manager and then got off to uninspiring start. Bell is another with hardly any pedigree - especially at this level Also what is our sales pitch to potential players; a young lad doing the scouting, a youth team coach unfamiliar to English football who has drowned to date managing a first team side and now Ireland’s women’s manager as the assistant If this were Leeds making sieward and bell as their coaching team most would be laughing. We’ve just come off the back of earning nearly a quarter of a billion in the PL - bielsa showed what a good manager can do in terms of improving existing players - yet we’re taking massive punts on inexperienced hopefuls Happy to give Siewart a chance but it was a ridiculous appointment. In the best position we've ever been to make a good appointment, from a financial standpoint and our reputation in the game, yet we gave it to a young bloke who had failed in the German equivalent of the conference. It's got all the makings of one of those times that people will look back on in 30 years and question what on earth were they thinking. The same way people do now about the early 70s or what could have been if we'd backed Shankley
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 12:04:39 GMT 1
Given that Winkler didn't come back for the start of preseason, I think Town were expecting to make a new appointment. They'll have probably been sorting it since before the end of the season. It won't have been a quick 24hr turnaround from scratch. So what if he's been managing the RoI women? My judgement of the whole management setup, including JS, starts in August when we play Derby. well said of course the club knew before the pre season that winkler would not be here. as I have said before they don't have to tell people everything.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 30, 2019 12:17:48 GMT 1
Given that Winkler didn't come back for the start of preseason, I think Town were expecting to make a new appointment. They'll have probably been sorting it since before the end of the season. It won't have been a quick 24hr turnaround from scratch. So what if he's been managing the RoI women? My judgement of the whole management setup, including JS, starts in August when we play Derby. well said of course the club knew before the pre season that winkler would not be here. as I have said before they don't have to tell people everything. Why wasn't he coming back though? That's what is most concerning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 12:24:29 GMT 1
well said of course the club knew before the pre season that winkler would not be here. as I have said before they don't have to tell people everything. Why wasn't he coming back though? That's what is most concerning. that we don't know butpeople can put what ever spin they want on it but the bottom line is the club and him have decided its best for both parties. we have moved to replace him and its history now. a lot of things will be going on and when they are done I'm sure the club will inform us.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 30, 2019 12:25:47 GMT 1
well said of course the club knew before the pre season that winkler would not be here. as I have said before they don't have to tell people everything. Why wasn't he coming back though? That's what is most concerning. I will ask my contact ?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 30, 2019 12:30:33 GMT 1
Why wasn't he coming back though? That's what is most concerning. that we don't know butpeople can put what ever spin they want on it but the bottom line is the club and him have decided its best for both parties. we have moved to replace him and its history now. a lot of things will be going on and when they are done I'm sure the club will inform us. 5 months ago Siewart and the club decided he was worth paying money to Barnsley for. He thought we were worth giving up a possible promotion with Barnsley for. Fast forward 5 months and he can't face coming back to us from his summer break. I really hope it was us deciding he was shite rather than him thinking Siewart wasn't up to it or that he had no chance of doing anything with the current crop of players
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Post by townatheart on Jun 30, 2019 12:37:00 GMT 1
that we don't know butpeople can put what ever spin they want on it but the bottom line is the club and him have decided its best for both parties. we have moved to replace him and its history now. a lot of things will be going on and when they are done I'm sure the club will inform us. 5 months ago Siewart and the club decided he was worth paying money to Barnsley for. He thought we were worth giving up a possible promotion with Barnsley for. Fast forward 5 months and he can't face coming back to us from his summer break. I really hope it was us deciding he was shite rather than him thinking Siewart wasn't up to it or that he had no chance of doing anything with the current crop of players This is just a suggestion mind, but given that you do admit you do not know the circumstances behind what has happened, might you want to soften your harpish/negative tone a bit, as there can be things in life (that people choose not to put into public domain) that can lead to decisions being taken. And for the record, I also do not know anything behind the story, just stating it seems unfair to put a negative spin on the situation when there are multiple different explanations that all could tell a different story.
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Post by space hardware on Jun 30, 2019 12:39:35 GMT 1
Just googled TuS Koblenz - were Siewart and bell met - they’re in the German fifth tier and play here, en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadion_OberwerthIt’s being watched by one man and his dog territory Bell hasn’t managed a men’s team since 2005 and that was another semi pro side - SC Preußen Münster ... never heard of them either! Clearly his talents have slipped under the radar of all the great (and not so great) clubs for decades as he’s not been involved with a senior professional men’s set up since Aaron Rowe was in nappies My fear is that siewart already struggles to command respect from the players because frankly he’s done nowt as a player or first team manager and then got off to uninspiring start. Bell is another with hardly any pedigree - especially at this level Also what is our sales pitch to potential players; a young lad doing the scouting, a youth team coach unfamiliar to English football who has drowned to date managing a first team side and now Ireland’s women’s manager as the assistant If this were Leeds making sieward and bell as their coaching team most would be laughing. We’ve just come off the back of earning nearly a quarter of a billion in the PL - bielsa showed what a good manager can do in terms of improving existing players - yet we’re taking massive punts on inexperienced hopefuls Happy to give Siewart a chance but it was a ridiculous appointment. In the best position we've ever been to make a good appointment, from a financial standpoint and our reputation in the game, yet we gave it to a young bloke who had failed in the German equivalent of the conference. It's got all the makings of one of those times that people will look back on in 30 years and question what on earth were they thinking. The same way people do now about the early 70s or what could have been if we'd backed Shankley We laughed at Leeds when they appointed Hockaday but Siewert is shaping up to be our version. His hand picked assistant has now walked and been replaced by a bloke with, and I'm being diplomatic here, a fairly thin CV in the world of senior men's football. Since the start of the year it's been one " ?" moment after another at the club. Siewert losing 12 out of 15 games and keeping his job, players openly scorning his methods and character, the assistant leaving and being replaced by another nobody, the saga of the takeover by a bloke who seemingly doesn't have the cash or the standing in the game to take us forward. We've just spent two years milking the richest league in the world yet it feels like we're scratting around at the bottom of League One again.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 30, 2019 12:40:50 GMT 1
that we don't know butpeople can put what ever spin they want on it but the bottom line is the club and him have decided its best for both parties. we have moved to replace him and its history now. a lot of things will be going on and when they are done I'm sure the club will inform us. 5 months ago Siewart and the club decided he was worth paying money to Barnsley for. He thought we were worth giving up a possible promotion with Barnsley for. Fast forward 5 months and he can't face coming back to us from his summer break. I really hope it was us deciding he was shite rather than him thinking Siewart wasn't up to it or that he had no chance of doing anything with the current crop of players You are a great spin doctor.
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