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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 0:25:21 GMT 1
Bacuna's talents are wasted at right back. People who thought he was good vs Wolves think so because he was reckless and flew into tackles like I assume their favourites from the Buxton days did. Has anyone seen him overlap or put in a good cross before? You need a different kind of positional awareness at full back to midfield, and he lacks it because he's a midfielder.
You mean the game where he was doing well at right back ? Made a couple of cracking legal in the modern game tackles, Which were well timed, He got the crowd fired up and got the team fired up, Before moving into midfield where he continued to play with some passion.
He could defo play as a sit in right back.
Besides how many overlaps do you want and who are we crossing to ?
Gabby (gk) Bacuna, Elf, Schindy, Terry, Hogg, Mooy, Brown, n Diaka, Grant, Pritch .to start, fingers crossed.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 31, 2019 0:50:30 GMT 1
Grabara
TK
Elphick
Schindler
Flo
Hogg
Mooy
Bacuna
Pritchard
Grant
RVLP
Subs:
Schofield
Bockhorn
Stankovic
J. Brown
R. Brown
Kachunga
Mounie
Can Bacuna play at RB? Yes. In an emergency, he can. But he offers so much in midfield, and although he's a bit of a blood and thunder type of player I would suggest that Flo (with a point to prove) is the better option.
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 31, 2019 0:55:15 GMT 1
Grabara TK Elphick Schindler Flo Hogg Mooy Bacuna Pritchard Grant RVLP Subs: Schofield Bockhorn Stankovic J. Brown R. Brown Kachunga Mounie Bockhorn can play both fullback roles, no way will he and another full back take up 2 places on the bench. Bockhorn, stankovic, that’s it, the rest will Be midfield or attack. Diakhaby and or mbenza will also be in the 18 if not 11 |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 31, 2019 1:02:57 GMT 1
Grabara TK Elphick Schindler Flo Hogg Mooy Bacuna Pritchard Grant RVLP Subs: Schofield Bockhorn Stankovic J. Brown R. Brown Kachunga Mounie Bockhorn can play both fullback roles, no way will he and another full back take up 2 places on the bench. Bockhorn, stankovic, that’s it, the rest will Be midfield or attack. Diakhaby and or mbenza will also be in the 18 if not 11 He can also play on either wing, but he can't play all positions at the same time. Fullback is an important position so I put in cover for both places in case HB is needed elsewhere. Even so, it was a toss up between him and o'Brien. |
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 31, 2019 1:33:05 GMT 1
For Bockhorn to be used on the wing ahead of any other options available in the starting 11 or from a potential 18 something has gone very wrong. 1 position for both full backs covered. If a centre half gets injured either Kongolo moves across and Bockhorn at left bk or Stankovic in at centre bk, flo injured then Bockhorn on right bk. Extreme case of 2 injuries to right bk then bacuna has to do some minutes there and a midfielder comes on. Either way Bockhorn and stankovic cover about 6 tactical or injury scenarios between them. Allow the further 4 subs (after a keeper) to be attacking options. Mounie, Quaner, kachunga, Diakhaby, mbenza, R.Brown, L.O’Brien to fulfil those 4 slots most likely provided Pritchard and VLP start as you’ve chosen.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 31, 2019 7:36:54 GMT 1
Grabara TK Elphick Schindler Flo Hogg Mooy Bacuna Pritchard Grant RVLP Subs: Schofield Bockhorn Stankovic J. Brown R. Brown Kachunga Mounie Can Bacuna play at RB? Yes. In an emergency, he can. But he offers so much in midfield, and although he's a bit of a blood and thunder type of player I would suggest that Flo (with a point to prove) is the better option. I like the look of that line up. Especially as you have picked VLP ! |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 31, 2019 7:57:25 GMT 1
Grabara TK Elphick Schindler Flo Hogg Mooy Bacuna Pritchard Grant RVLP Subs: Schofield Bockhorn Stankovic J. Brown R. Brown Kachunga Mounie Can Bacuna play at RB? Yes. In an emergency, he can. But he offers so much in midfield, and although he's a bit of a blood and thunder type of player I would suggest that Flo (with a point to prove) is the better option. I like the look of that line up. Especially as you have picked VLP ! Yep great stuff. Grant will love having no idea when the ball is going to come in to him as VLP does another 5 step overs and tries to beat the defender again after already going past him twice. No Mbenza or Diakhaby in the 18. Glad he's not our manager |
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Post by PellonTerrier on Jul 31, 2019 8:15:04 GMT 1
Grabara
Flo
Elphick
Schindler
Kongolo
Hogg
Bacuna
Mooy
Diakhaby
Grant
Pritchard
Schofield
Bockhorn
Stankovic
O'Brien
R Brown
Mbenza
Kachunga
Maybe swap Diakhaby for Mbenza but I'm not sure he's ready for 90 yet. Kachunga on bench ahead of Mounie purely for fitness reasons and because Koroma is a bit raw
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Post by Dan on Jul 31, 2019 8:21:52 GMT 1
Grabara Flo Elphick Schindler Kongolo Hogg Bacuna Mooy Diakhaby Grant Pritchard Schofield Bockhorn Stankovic O'Brien R Brown Mbenza Kachunga Maybe swap Diakhaby for Mbenza but I'm not sure he's ready for 90 yet. Kachunga on bench ahead of Mounie purely for fitness reasons and because Koroma is a bit raw I think barring injuries, that will probably be the exact team / bench. |
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Post by basil on Jul 31, 2019 8:43:20 GMT 1
Grabara Flo Elphick Schindler Kongolo Hogg Bacuna Mooy Diakhaby Grant Pritchard Schofield Bockhorn Stankovic O'Brien R Brown Mbenza Kachunga Maybe swap Diakhaby for Mbenza but I'm not sure he's ready for 90 yet. Kachunga on bench ahead of Mounie purely for fitness reasons and because Koroma is a bit raw I think barring injuries, that will probably be the exact team / bench. Agreed. My preference would be for Reece Brown to replace Hogg, with Bacuna taking the deeper role,but we shall see. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 31, 2019 8:49:10 GMT 1
Bacuna's talents are wasted at right back. People who thought he was good vs Wolves think so because he was reckless and flew into tackles like I assume their favourites from the Buxton days did. Has anyone seen him overlap or put in a good cross before? You need a different kind of positional awareness at full back to midfield, and he lacks it because he's a midfielder. Just wanted to comment on this . Everyone's favourite right back from the Buxton era wasn't actually a great tackler. But was the best overlapper/crosser of the last 40 years |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 31, 2019 8:55:04 GMT 1
Bacuna's talents are wasted at right back. People who thought he was good vs Wolves think so because he was reckless and flew into tackles like I assume their favourites from the Buxton days did. Has anyone seen him overlap or put in a good cross before? You need a different kind of positional awareness at full back to midfield, and he lacks it because he's a midfielder. Just wanted to comment on this . Everyone's favourite right back from the Buxton era wasn't actually a great tackler. But was the best overlapper/crosser of the last 40 years Mally Brown, Would VLP be in teddys team Teddy ? |
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 31, 2019 8:55:14 GMT 1
Grabara TK Elphick Schindler Flo Hogg Mooy Bacuna Pritchard Grant RVLP Subs: Schofield Bockhorn Stankovic J. Brown R. Brown Kachunga Mounie Can Bacuna play at RB? Yes. In an emergency, he can. But he offers so much in midfield, and although he's a bit of a blood and thunder type of player I would suggest that Flo (with a point to prove) is the better option. I like the look of that line up. Especially as you have picked VLP ! When I referred to bacuna as an option at right back I meant in no other circumstance than an in game emergency not as a starting role, as a starter he should be nowhere near right back |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 31, 2019 9:06:08 GMT 1
We will require a midfielder getting up and down, if anyone is better than Bacuna at that then he may cover the full back slot. Would like to see any and all team selections this season being more geared towards what we want to do going forward than otherwise.
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Post by townrwe on Jul 31, 2019 10:02:52 GMT 1
My team for Derby
GRABBA
HADJ SCHINDLER KONGOLO BOCKHORN
BACUNA HOGG BROWN
DIAKHABY GRANT MBENZA
I'd genuinely like to see a new left back, but I would be be happy with Kongolo at left back and Elphick at CB. Or Bacuna RB and Hadj left back. I'm dropping Mooy presuming someone will come in for him before next Thursday so we can start with a settled side, but if not then I'd swap him for Hogg or brown.
What that team shows me is that we need to do some transfer dealings at left and right back before the end of the week.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 11:05:23 GMT 1
Think I must be the only person who thinks Kongolo is a better LB than CB
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Post by yellowbelly on Jul 31, 2019 11:28:45 GMT 1
Think I must be the only person who thinks Kongolo is a better LB than CB Correcto |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 31, 2019 11:42:55 GMT 1
Flo should be nowhere near the team imho !
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Post by Dillinger on Jul 31, 2019 11:45:04 GMT 1
Flo should be nowhere near the team imho ! Who would you have there instead Nick, Lee Clarke? |
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Post by PellonTerrier on Jul 31, 2019 11:49:09 GMT 1
Flo should be nowhere near the team imho ! Who would you have there instead Nick, Lee Clarke? Who is Lee Clarke? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 31, 2019 11:49:56 GMT 1
Bacuna's talents are wasted at right back. People who thought he was good vs Wolves think so because he was reckless and flew into tackles like I assume their favourites from the Buxton days did. Has anyone seen him overlap or put in a good cross before? You need a different kind of positional awareness at full back to midfield, and he lacks it because he's a midfielder.
You mean the game where he was doing well at right back ? Made a couple of cracking legal in the modern game tackles, Which were well timed, He got the crowd fired up and got the team fired up, Before moving into midfield where he continued to play with some passion.
He could defo play as a sit in right back.
Besides how many overlaps do you want and who are we crossing to ?
Gabby (gk) Bacuna, Elf, Schindy, Terry, Hogg, Mooy, Brown, n Diaka, Grant, Pritch .to start, fingers crossed.
Thought Pritch was an elf 😁 |
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Post by royrace on Jul 31, 2019 11:57:40 GMT 1
Think I must be the only person who thinks Kongolo is a better LB than CB I think some are underestimating Terrence as a full back, earlier last season when the team was playing well he looked very good going forward as well as defensively, if Elphick is as good as we hope 3 out of our back 4 will be top quality at champ level. Jury out on Flo and if we get injuries to either we look weak. Herbert looked OK but is an unknown at this level. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 31, 2019 12:12:17 GMT 1
Flo should be nowhere near the team imho ! Who would you have there instead Nick, Lee Clarke? No such person ! Any defender but flo tbh ! |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 31, 2019 12:45:13 GMT 1
Think I must be the only person who thinks Kongolo is a better LB than CB I think some are underestimating Terrence as a full back, earlier last season when the team was playing well he looked very good going forward as well as defensively, if Elphick is as good as we hope 3 out of our back 4 will be top quality at champ level. Jury out on Flo and if we get injuries to either we look weak. Herbert looked OK but is an unknown at this level. Most, as I read it, are not denigrating him as a fullback, rather just saying he is more suited to being a CB. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 31, 2019 17:56:18 GMT 1
I like the look of that line up. Especially as you have picked VLP ! Yep great stuff. Grant will love having no idea when the ball is going to come in to him as VLP does another 5 step overs and tries to beat the defender again after already going past him twice. No Mbenza or Diakhaby in the 18. Glad he's not our manager RVLP, I'm basing it upon him having ability and a point to prove, plus reports of him coming back with a better attitude & knuckling down. No Diakhaby & Mbenza, based on their performances for us last season. They could be great this season or they could be utter garbage. I've not written them off by any means but I'm not optimistic about either of them tbh. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 31, 2019 18:17:12 GMT 1
Yep great stuff. Grant will love having no idea when the ball is going to come in to him as VLP does another 5 step overs and tries to beat the defender again after already going past him twice. No Mbenza or Diakhaby in the 18. Glad he's not our manager RVLP, I'm basing it upon him having ability and a point to prove, plus reports of him coming back with a better attitude & knuckling down. No Diakhaby & Mbenza, based on their performances for us last season. They could be great this season or they could be utter garbage. I've not written them off by any means but I'm not optimistic about either of them tbh. Im still on the fence with Mbenza. Not sure if has the ability. I thought Diakhaby showed glimpses of some good football, particularly at Everton, so I have hope for him. |
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Post by basil on Jul 31, 2019 18:30:17 GMT 1
Yep great stuff. Grant will love having no idea when the ball is going to come in to him as VLP does another 5 step overs and tries to beat the defender again after already going past him twice. No Mbenza or Diakhaby in the 18. Glad he's not our manager RVLP, I'm basing it upon him having ability and a point to prove, plus reports of him coming back with a better attitude & knuckling down. No Diakhaby & Mbenza, based on their performances for us last season. They could be great this season or they could be utter garbage. I've not written them off by any means but I'm not optimistic about either of them tbh. I admire RVLP's skill and am impressed by his work for the team, but when he gets the ball, do our players bust a gut to get in the box?..... Tells you all you need to know. |
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Post by arry11 on Jul 31, 2019 18:37:33 GMT 1
RVLP, I'm basing it upon him having ability and a point to prove, plus reports of him coming back with a better attitude & knuckling down. No Diakhaby & Mbenza, based on their performances for us last season. They could be great this season or they could be utter garbage. I've not written them off by any means but I'm not optimistic about either of them tbh. I admire RVLP's skill and am impressed by his work for the team, but when he gets the ball, do our players bust a gut to get in the box?..... Tells you all you need to know. Why he will never find them. |
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Post by sykeylad on Jul 31, 2019 18:53:03 GMT 1
Unless there is a last minute departure I am hoping for:
Grabba
Flo Shindy Elphick TK
R Brown Mooy Bacuna
Diakhaby Grant Mbenza
Bench:
Schofield
Bockhorn
Stankovic
Hogg
Pritchard
Kache
Quaner
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 31, 2019 19:20:30 GMT 1
Quite surprised that many don't have Mounie in the 18.
If fit I believe he will feature at some point in the game.
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