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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 6, 2019 18:10:54 GMT 1
Interesting that you have a little snidey at me on Monday and on Tuesday write How many clubs would keep a manager who has lost so many games and I don’t accept this theory that he had an impossible task when he was appointed. Last night was an inept showing from a manager who is clearly so far out of his depth he is drowning and taking the club with him. I know it’s terrible you must know be thinking of giving this board a miss for the next 12 months when I behave so unreasonably towards you as you would never do it to anyone else would you? if you want to barrack me even when you agree with me then your life must be sadder than I imagined |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 18:32:20 GMT 1
The board have already dug a hole so deep in appointing JS, standing by him as the squad mutinied, letting him bring in a second number 2 and preaching to the fans that he is THE man.
I can’t see how we can possibly sack him, it would be akin to the board simply admitting they haven’t a clue.
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Post by dewsburyborn on Aug 6, 2019 19:42:29 GMT 1
If we lose to Lincoln, there's are new management team there. Maybe we're even hoping we lose to Lincoln to enable some people to get themselves out of a mess they've created for themselves ? Some people talk of Hughton - would he really take the step down to come here ? Somebody needs to be hopping a flight to Qatar and get Jokanovic out of that contract there. |
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 6, 2019 20:04:12 GMT 1
if you want to barrack me even when you agree with me then your life must be sadder than I imagined Just fishing, I am pleased with my sad self you bit. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 6, 2019 20:26:20 GMT 1
if you want to barrack me even when you agree with me then your life must be sadder than I imagined Just fishing, I am pleased with my sad self you bit. Oh right .. great .. how old are you again ? |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 6, 2019 20:28:15 GMT 1
If we lose to Lincoln, there's are new management team there. Maybe we're even hoping we lose to Lincoln to enable some people to get themselves out of a mess they've created for themselves ? Some people talk of Hughton - would he really take the step down to come here ? Somebody needs to be hopping a flight to Qatar and get Jokanovic out of that contract there. Step down? Isn’t he unemployed? |
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Post by dewsburyborn on Aug 6, 2019 20:44:59 GMT 1
Maybe we're even hoping we lose to Lincoln to enable some people to get themselves out of a mess they've created for themselves ? Some people talk of Hughton - would he really take the step down to come here ? Somebody needs to be hopping a flight to Qatar and get Jokanovic out of that contract there. Step down? Isn’t he unemployed? ` according to wiki he's at Al-Gharafa |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 6, 2019 20:59:11 GMT 1
Step down? Isn’t he unemployed? ` according to wiki he's at Al-Gharafa Sorry I meant Chris Hughton |
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Post by willo on Aug 6, 2019 22:58:48 GMT 1
The board have already dug a hole so deep in appointing JS, standing by him as the squad mutinied, letting him bring in a second number 2 and preaching to the fans that he is THE man. I can’t see how we can possibly sack him, it would be akin to the board simply admitting they haven’t a clue. Funny you should say that as I’ve heard from a reliable source the club are in total chaos behind the scenes. Extremely worrying if this is the case. |
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Post by sabailand on Aug 6, 2019 23:04:42 GMT 1
Some on here couldnt wait to get back to the championship and be average again, well we`re back in the championship and some still arn`t satisfied.  |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 6, 2019 23:07:03 GMT 1
Some on here couldnt wait to get back to the championship and be average again, well we`re back in the championship and some still arn`t satisfied. Isn’t that just called a difference of opinion? Not really that insightful is it? |
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Post by sabailand on Aug 6, 2019 23:11:46 GMT 1
Some on here couldnt wait to get back to the championship and be average again, well we`re back in the championship and some still arn`t satisfied. Isn’t that just called a difference of opinion? Not really that insightful is it? I`m being sarcastic, i always used to take issue with people who `wished` we were back in the championship and didnt like the prem, well now some of those have got what they wanted and after one game its the end of the world! |
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Post by dewsburyborn on Aug 6, 2019 23:12:04 GMT 1
` according to wiki he's at Al-Gharafa Sorry I meant Chris Hughton My misinterpretation - trying to do 3 things at once. I kinda think Hughton would still think himself worthy of a PL spot - or at least a Champ team in with a better promotion shout than we will be thought to have |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 6, 2019 23:18:24 GMT 1
Isn’t that just called a difference of opinion? Not really that insightful is it? I`m being sarcastic, i always used to take issue with people who `wished` we were back in the championship and didnt like the prem, well now some of those have got what they wanted and after one game its the end of the world! I'm gutted we've dropped back into a shit league, watching players like Richard Keogh playing against us and dealing with whatever we threw at him with no trouble whatsoever. The Championship is fucking rubbish. Anyone who wanted to drop back down to this is mental. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Aug 7, 2019 10:55:26 GMT 1
The biggest worry for me is that the management tean had clearly not done any homework on Derby or let the players have any info about Derby - the guy has to go now Exactly how much homework can be done on a team that’s playing the first game of a new season, with a new manager who is new to the English game, and with key players sold? If you want to point to pre season, that means as much about them as it did for us with all our games unbeaten. Stop panicking after just one game you lot. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Aug 7, 2019 11:03:39 GMT 1
I`m being sarcastic, i always used to take issue with people who `wished` we were back in the championship and didnt like the prem, well now some of those have got what they wanted and after one game its the end of the world! I'm gutted we've dropped back into a shit league, watching players like Richard Keogh playing against us and dealing with whatever we threw at him with no trouble whatsoever. The Championship is fucking rubbish. Anyone who wanted to drop back down to this is mental. ...but it’s much better than being in L1 or lower. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 7, 2019 12:15:16 GMT 1
The bloke is a total loser, we need to get rid now or risk being left behind. I'd imagine we will be bottom on no points after 6 or 7 games and the club will be forced to make a change. Siewart came in and I fully believe he has done his best but he just comes across as a clueless idiot to me, he also has a really bad attitude and arrogance to him. Said before should have been thanked for his efforts after Southampton.
Even making a change now it ain't going to be an instant turn around. We needed a new manager in the summer to bring in decent championship players. A fresh approach was needed. I think the club will stick with him for now but can't see him getting more than 6 games. Maybe we can't afford to sack him? With us being so skint an all.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 7, 2019 12:19:30 GMT 1
The bloke is a total loser, we need to get rid now or risk being left behind. I'd imagine we will be bottom on no points after 6 or 7 games and the club will be forced to make a change. That’s a bold statement but given our points tally over the last 40 games, unfortunately, it would be no surprise. |
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Post by Stiggy on Aug 7, 2019 13:44:19 GMT 1
Give him until the Reading game to turn the performances around, if not then he has to go.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 7, 2019 13:52:14 GMT 1
IMO. It’s never too soon.
It’s always too late.
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Post by huddersfc on Aug 7, 2019 13:53:07 GMT 1
Whats the point in getting shut now, its pointless to give someone all summer to prepare and then get rid. The right time was end of last season, when it was clear he seemed to have no new ideas, no way seemingly of bringing the squad together, no small bounce with a few decent results after appointment and seemingly completely out of his depth. Nobody surely, including myself, expected him to keep us up, and I said that many times last season. But was it too much to see a change and a fresh approach? I dont know the answer, but how many managers have started with 1 win in 16 games and still been in a job? The right time to pull the trigger was end of last season after seeing no improvement, and in fact even going the other way, and someone with some bottle to say this cheap approach has failed miserably. I genuinely cant remember calling for a manager to go before, but I have honestly not seen someone so far out of their depth since Hockaday took over down t road.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 13:55:04 GMT 1
Another home defeat and maybe one to Lincoln at home too, then I suspect a fair few fans will be swerving attending whilst he’s here,myself included. If we lose Saturday, I think I’ll be waiting until he’s gone. I’m having Monday as a one off and just a bit of rust, but I said last season, there is nothing on his CV or nothing from then to now that shows anything will change for the good.
I would prefer to get battered Saturday 5-1 and him be sacked than lose 2-1 and he be let off for another week. I can’t see where it’s going to change. Lincoln could be the one though
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 7, 2019 14:13:37 GMT 1
Another home defeat and maybe one to Lincoln at home too, then I suspect a fair few fans will be swerving attending whilst he’s here,myself included. If we lose Saturday, I think I’ll be waiting until he’s gone. I’m having Monday as a one off and just a bit of rust, but I said last season, there is nothing on his CV or nothing from then to now that shows anything will change for the good. I would prefer to get battered Saturday 5-1 and him be sacked than lose 2-1 and he be let off for another week. I can’t see where it’s going to change. Lincoln could be the one though If we lose at QPR and either lose or scrape through against Lincoln, defeat against Fulham will put the board in a position of either alienating the fans and sticking with him or calling it a day. However, I think we will perform better away so let’s see what Saturday brings. |
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Post by iangreaves on Aug 7, 2019 14:43:36 GMT 1
The board have already dug a hole so deep in appointing JS, standing by him as the squad mutinied, letting him bring in a second number 2 and preaching to the fans that he is THE man. I can’t see how we can possibly sack him, it would be akin to the board simply admitting they haven’t a clue. Funny you should say that as I’ve heard from a reliable source the club are in total chaos behind the scenes. Extremely worrying if this is the case. You need to explain what you mean by total chaos. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 14:51:45 GMT 1
Whats the point in getting shut now, its pointless to give someone all summer to prepare and then get rid. The right time was end of last season, when it was clear he seemed to have no new ideas, no way seemingly of bringing the squad together, no small bounce with a few decent results after appointment and seemingly completely out of his depth. Nobody surely, including myself, expected him to keep us up, and I said that many times last season. But was it too much to see a change and a fresh approach? I dont know the answer, but how many managers have started with 1 win in 16 games and still been in a job? The right time to pull the trigger was end of last season after seeing no improvement, and in fact even going the other way, and someone with some bottle to say this cheap approach has failed miserably. I genuinely cant remember calling for a manager to go before, but I have honestly not seen someone so far out of their depth since Hockaday took over down t road. Hudson could do the job until the end of the season for me! Really don’t understand how that is anything other than another cheap untried option. He could be great or he could be crap. Same as Jan. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 7, 2019 15:01:41 GMT 1
Hudson could do the job until the end of the season for me! Really don’t understand how that is anything other than another cheap untried option. He could be great or he could be crap. Same as Jan. Same as Wagner. |
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Post by detox on Aug 7, 2019 15:05:46 GMT 1
The jury is certainly still out on Jan but even DW lost his first game, and he came from 'nowhere' too, with no experience at this level etc etc. In the end DW was caught out and found the PL too difficult...for various reasons,. It's only 3 games ago we got a 1-1 draw with Manchester Utd. As for the 'chaos' in the club, that might be down to new players, new coach,new manager and new owner...that's some change and will take a while to bed in. Big Phil might be trying to impose his own ways and some staff might not like it, and start moaning just like the players did last season. Doesn't mean anything is amiss, it's just different and some folk don't like it...happens everywhere.
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Post by drumriggend on Aug 7, 2019 15:51:18 GMT 1
Tobe fair to jan you cant legislate for what elphick did for the 1st goal..
Thought we were just starting to get on top at that moment..
Then he decides hes one of the harlem fookin globetrotters ..
Instead of mr reliable experienced centre half..
2nd goal probably came as a byproduct of the brain fog caused by the 1st goal..
We were just about the better side from that point on..
No doubt the team and jan in particular need a win..
And quickly..
Its obvious that confidence is in short supply in all positions..
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Post by detox on Aug 7, 2019 15:58:06 GMT 1
Tobe fair to jan you cant legislate for what elphick did for the 1st goal.. Thought we were just starting to get on top at that moment.. Then he decides hes one of the harlem fookin globetrotters .. Instead of mr reliable experienced centre half.. 2nd goal probably came as a byproduct of the brain fog caused by the 1st goal.. We were just about the better side from that point on.. No doubt the team and jan in particular need a win.. And quickly.. Its obvious that confidence is in short supply in all positions.. nor Kachunga blazing it wildly over the bar from 2 yards out... You could argue maybe Kachunga shouldn't be in the squad but maybe someone else wouldn't even have been near that chance ? |
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Post by willo on Aug 7, 2019 17:00:33 GMT 1
Whats the point in getting shut now, its pointless to give someone all summer to prepare and then get rid. The right time was end of last season, when it was clear he seemed to have no new ideas, no way seemingly of bringing the squad together, no small bounce with a few decent results after appointment and seemingly completely out of his depth. Nobody surely, including myself, expected him to keep us up, and I said that many times last season. But was it too much to see a change and a fresh approach? I dont know the answer, but how many managers have started with 1 win in 16 games and still been in a job? The right time to pull the trigger was end of last season after seeing no improvement, and in fact even going the other way, and someone with some bottle to say this cheap approach has failed miserably. I genuinely cant remember calling for a manager to go before, but I have honestly not seen someone so far out of their depth since Hockaday took over down t road. Hudson could do the job until the end of the season for me! The end of the season? Got to be a joke. It should have been given to Hudson until the end of last season when Wagner left and the new manager announced once that season had ended. Any new appointment has to be proven and long-term, not another stop-gap. |
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