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Post by townrwe on Aug 10, 2019 20:38:47 GMT 1
Houghton who was sacked from brighton for his dour football? I hope we get another relative unknown, if jan ever gets the bullet Town fans don;t care about exciting football IMO. Its about winning football. wagner didn;t produce exciting teams that scored goals. No one minded because we were winning. I think we need inspiration though. Its abit late now, but potter would have been a good fit, hassanhuttl would have been good. Mike Tullberg will probabaly be our next manager. Let's get Webb into his role and then make an informed decision after say 6 or so games and get someone in that is webbs pick, like david was webber's pick and use it as an opportunity to build a proper coaching team. If in the 6 games seiwert has turned it around then we can hold fire on the bullet. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2019 20:41:35 GMT 1
The Board tell us we should be competitive and we have a squad capable of challenging.
The manager serves up dross and loses the fans.
‘The centre cannot hold, something has to give.’
One of them is full of baloney. The question is, do the Board believe their own hyperbole or are they selling snake oil? We guess we’ll find out if current form continues.
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Post by terrier10 on Aug 10, 2019 20:48:07 GMT 1
David Webb was Talent Scout at Southampton between 2010 and 2013.
Nigel Adkins was Manager for the exact same duration
Wonder how close they worked together 🤔
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Post by ACW on Aug 10, 2019 20:50:35 GMT 1
Houghton who was sacked from brighton for his dour football? I hope we get another relative unknown, if jan ever gets the bullet Town fans don;t care about exciting football IMO. Its about winning football. wagner didn;t produce exciting teams that scored goals. No one minded because we were winning. Wagner's teams didn't play Keegan-style exciting football, but they did play constructive, passing football with a clear strategy that the players obviously bought into. I found it entertaining to watch alot of the time, even though we didn't score loads of goals. It was far better than the 'hoof it and hope' stuff I've watched during the majority of my time as a Town fan. Initially it was a novelty just watching a Town team that was able to consistently put three passes together! Whatever you think of Wagner's style, we all knew what to expect, and the players - in the main - were able to deliver results. Well, until the financial inequality of the Premier League caught up with us. With Wagner there was a clear playing style, an obvious plan - and although it wasn't 'exciting', it was considerably better to watch than the football we had become accustomed to watching before his arrival. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 10, 2019 20:56:39 GMT 1
Seiwert might do himself some favours if he switched formation instead of persisting with this ludicrous 433 and showed some flexibility when it's not working. I dread to think what will happen if we lose to Lincoln on Tuesday, who are incidentally 100 percent and haven't conceded a goal as yet.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 10, 2019 20:58:31 GMT 1
Town fans don;t care about exciting football IMO. Its about winning football. wagner didn;t produce exciting teams that scored goals. No one minded because we were winning. Wagner's teams didn't play Keegan-style exciting football, but they did play constructive, passing football with a clear strategy that the players obviously bought into. I found it entertaining to watch alot of the time, even though we didn't score loads of goals. It was far better than the 'hoof it and hope' stuff I've watched during the majority of my time as a Town fan. Initially it was a novelty just watching a Town team that was able to consistently put three passes together! Whatever you think of Wagner's style, we all knew what to expect, and the players - in the main - were able to deliver results. Well, until the financial inequality of the Premier League caught up with us. Under Siewert, we see little structure, and no clear identity. With Wagner there was a clear playing style, an obvious plan - and although it wasn't 'exciting', it was considerably better to watch than the football we had become accustomed to watching before his arrival. Yes, the sad truth is that the same set-up and strategy used for a bottom third Bundesliga team/top 4 Bundesliga 2 team was just about enough for us to be able to get promotion to the PL. But not enough to sustain PL permanency. Gonna be interesting to see how DW does for Schalke 04 with the same tactics and strategies. |
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Post by johns on Aug 10, 2019 20:58:43 GMT 1
Sack the idiot 442 is the way to go
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 10, 2019 20:59:16 GMT 1
David Webb was Talent Scout at Southampton between 2010 and 2013. Nigel Adkins was Manager for the exact same duration Wonder how close they worked together 🤔 His was a name I thought of. Track record of attacking football and a good man manager. Sad to say, I voted that it's time for Siewert to go. Wrong man at the wrong time, and persisting could set the club back a very, very long way. |
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Post by terriertim on Aug 10, 2019 21:05:57 GMT 1
Confidence is shot but this will come then you'll all be ashamed of your kneejerk outrage. Here here |
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Post by ACW on Aug 10, 2019 21:07:17 GMT 1
Wagner's teams didn't play Keegan-style exciting football, but they did play constructive, passing football with a clear strategy that the players obviously bought into. I found it entertaining to watch alot of the time, even though we didn't score loads of goals. It was far better than the 'hoof it and hope' stuff I've watched during the majority of my time as a Town fan. Initially it was a novelty just watching a Town team that was able to consistently put three passes together! Whatever you think of Wagner's style, we all knew what to expect, and the players - in the main - were able to deliver results. Well, until the financial inequality of the Premier League caught up with us. Under Siewert, we see little structure, and no clear identity. With Wagner there was a clear playing style, an obvious plan - and although it wasn't 'exciting', it was considerably better to watch than the football we had become accustomed to watching before his arrival. Yes, the sad truth is that the same set-up and strategy used for a bottom third Bundesliga team/top 4 Bundesliga 2 team was just about enough for us to be able to get promotion to the PL. But not enough to sustain PL permanency. Gonna be interesting to see how DW does for Schalke 04 with the same tactics and strategies. I don't know anything about the quality of the players Wagner has at Schalke, but I am sure he will adapt his tactics to the players he has at his disposal. He may have better players, so might be able to play a more expansive game? I suspect at a club like Schalke, with higher expectations than Town, he would play less conservatively. To be fair, he allowed Town to play with more freedom in the Championship, when it was a more level playing field. It was only after the defeat to Spurs that he decided to become more defensive. |
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Post by Ross83 on Aug 10, 2019 21:08:45 GMT 1
I'd be for it.. But, seeing how PH has operated so far we'd appoint a David Hockaday type! What a fucking mess.
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Post by drewden on Aug 10, 2019 21:14:45 GMT 1
What's wrong with the players having some balls, standing upto the manager and declaring what's going wrong.
Didn't Wagner have meetings with the players to resolve frustrations, and the like.
Surely the players are getting the signals from the supporters not all is well, maybe they take their wedge of dosh every week and say ah well.
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Post by townrwe on Aug 10, 2019 21:21:08 GMT 1
I'm not really sure what sacking him would achieve the more I think about it.
The tone has been set by this 3 window transition line. If we are saying this year is about consolidation, then we are setting the expectation at the minimum level of surviving. There seems to be no desire to overacheieve this year only manage underachievement.
Poor jan has been dealt some terrible cards. I'd love to actually know what has gone on between him and the players.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 10, 2019 21:29:29 GMT 1
Sack the idiot 442 is the way to go When a team is in trouble go back to basics, it doesn't harm and it's a solid foundation. I've run/ played for many teams and this works with players when you stick with it, you have a man that you're given to mark and you win that battle. You win the game then, but you have to have a problem in the first place that Town now have. 4-3-3 is for the Liverpool's with proper players NOT Town |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 10, 2019 21:36:24 GMT 1
Sack the idiot 442 is the way to go When a team is in trouble go back to basics, it doesn't harm and it's a solid foundation. I've run/ played for many teams and this works with players when you stick with it, you have a man that you're given to mark and you win that battle. You win the game then, but you have to have a problem in the first place that Town now have. 4-3-3 is for the Liverpool's with proper players NOT Town Said it alL along to revert to a solid 442 formation, we might carry more goal threat with 2 strikers in an orthodox formation. |
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Post by chadders51 on Aug 10, 2019 21:36:45 GMT 1
Nathan Jones will be available in a couple of weeks (Hopefully )
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Aug 10, 2019 21:38:06 GMT 1
But what if the 3rd transfer window looks like being in League 1
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Post by nshackle on Aug 10, 2019 21:42:08 GMT 1
Wouldn’t surprise me if we went in for the Barnsley manager (Stendel) if Siewert eventually gets the chop.
On a separate note I can see the Stoke manager Jones getting the sack sooner or later. Another who seems out of his depth in this league and coincidentally someone we were thought to be previously interested in.
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Post by impact on Aug 10, 2019 21:51:18 GMT 1
The squad is poor. He's, once again, been dealt a nothing hand and has become the scapegoat for the board's failings over the past 15 months.
I'm not sure he is the right man. But I am sure that he's been thrown under the bus.
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Post by nshackle on Aug 10, 2019 21:52:34 GMT 1
Nathan Jones will be available in a couple of weeks (Hopefully ) I’d missed that post. Seems to be struggling despite getting decent backing in the transfer market. Saw that Ince got on the scoresheet today  |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 10, 2019 21:52:58 GMT 1
Wouldn’t surprise me if we went in for the Barnsley manager (Stendel) if Siewert eventually gets the chop. On a separate note I can see the Stoke manager Jones getting the sack sooner or later. Another who seems out of his depth in this league and coincidentally someone we were thought to be previously interested in. Barnsley Chop. I like it! |
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Post by chadders51 on Aug 10, 2019 21:56:05 GMT 1
Nathan Jones will be available in a couple of weeks (Hopefully ) I’d missed that post. Seems to be struggling despite getting decent backing in the transfer market. Saw that Ince got on the scoresheet today He’s useless mate Three wins in 23 games and were bottom of the league And you think you’re bad 🤔 |
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Post by chadders51 on Aug 10, 2019 21:57:35 GMT 1
Wouldn’t surprise me if we went in for the Barnsley manager (Stendel) if Siewert eventually gets the chop. On a separate note I can see the Stoke manager Jones getting the sack sooner or later. Another who seems out of his depth in this league and coincidentally someone we were thought to be previously interested in. Jones isn’t just out of his depth. He’s completely sunk I can see Pulis being back soon |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Aug 10, 2019 22:01:55 GMT 1
But what if the 3rd transfer window looks like being in League 1 Not impossible on today's showing. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 10, 2019 22:07:08 GMT 1
Confidence is shot but this will come then you'll all be ashamed of your kneejerk outrage. Here here Where? Where? |
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Post by Stiggy on Aug 10, 2019 22:10:41 GMT 1
He needs more time imo. Decent point today.
The players confidence is shot to shit, give him time to turn it around.
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Post by willo on Aug 10, 2019 22:18:35 GMT 1
He needs more time imo. Decent point today. The players confidence is shot to shit, give him time to turn it around. You’re one of a small and ever dwindling band of supporters who think JS should be given more time. Have posted elsewhere, it’s not if but when he is given the push. We should at least be sounding out other potential candidates behind the scenes now thereby preparing for the inevitable. |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 10, 2019 22:20:21 GMT 1
I’d missed that post. Seems to be struggling despite getting decent backing in the transfer market. Saw that Ince got on the scoresheet today He’s useless mate Three wins in 23 games and were bottom of the league And you think you’re bad 🤔 I know we're bad 😁😁 |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Aug 10, 2019 22:29:45 GMT 1
He needs more time imo. Decent point today. The players confidence is shot to shit, give him time to turn it around. You’re one of a small and ever dwindling band of supporters who think JS should be given more time. Have posted elsewhere, it’s not if but when he is given the push. We should at least be sounding out other potential candidates behind the scenes now thereby preparing for the inevitable. I'm another one - beats bleating like sheep. Patience is required |
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Post by Wingman on Aug 10, 2019 22:32:30 GMT 1
I'd like it to work out for Siewart, he appears to be working hard behind the scenes but something clearly isn't right. From Swiss Tony's takeover right through the squad and transfers to Siewart, the club looks to be in a state of flux.
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