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Post by chinaski on Aug 11, 2019 12:55:31 GMT 1
We were incredibly lucky to get a point yesterday. 37% possession and 11 fewer shots on goal with no corners tells the story.
Siewert doesn’t seem to have a clue where to put our best players. Pritchard was completely wasted on the left wing in the first half. Substitutions also showed a lack of game management nous.
This is probably the first time I’ve ever been in favour of ditching a manager so early into their tenure - but this is such a pivotal period for our club and it feels like we’re just throwing away the opportunity.
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 11, 2019 13:01:45 GMT 1
We were incredibly lucky to get a point yesterday. 37% possession and 11 fewer shots on goal with no corners tells the story. Siewert doesn’t seem to have a clue where to put our best players. Pritchard was completely wasted on the left wing in the first half. Substitutions also showed a lack of game management nous. This is probably the first time I’ve ever been in favour of ditching a manager so early into their tenure - but this is such a pivotal period for our club and it feels like we’re just throwing away the opportunity. Pritchard would be fine on the left if we'd signed a left back to go past him and create all the width. We have a centre back there. The midfield is totally wrong for a 433 that doesn't press high. Hogg doesn't have the discipline to be a defensive screen, he's still charging around trying to press when nobody else is, and the others aren't capable of going forward and supporting attacks or dictating play. Pritchard on the left is the least of our concerns. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 11, 2019 13:03:14 GMT 1
Well what do we predict from the next 2 games? Surely we have enough weapons to sneak past Lincoln? Then defeat to Fulham? If he loses the next 2 he simply has to go.
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Post by chinaski on Aug 11, 2019 13:06:12 GMT 1
We were incredibly lucky to get a point yesterday. 37% possession and 11 fewer shots on goal with no corners tells the story. Siewert doesn’t seem to have a clue where to put our best players. Pritchard was completely wasted on the left wing in the first half. Substitutions also showed a lack of game management nous. This is probably the first time I’ve ever been in favour of ditching a manager so early into their tenure - but this is such a pivotal period for our club and it feels like we’re just throwing away the opportunity. Pritchard would be fine on the left if we'd signed a left back to go past him and create all the width. We have a centre back there. The midfield is totally wrong for a 433 that doesn't press high. Hogg doesn't have the discipline to be a defensive screen, he's still charging around trying to press when nobody else is, and the others aren't capable of going forward and supporting attacks or dictating play. Pritchard on the left is the least of our concerns. He is not quick enough to play the width in a front three. Irrespective of overlapping fullbacks, that position needs pace to exploit on counter attacks. He’s much more suited to a central role in behind the Grant. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 11, 2019 13:06:14 GMT 1
Well what do we predict from the next 2 games? Surely we have enough weapons to sneak past Lincoln? Then defeat to Fulham? If he loses the next 2 he simply has to go. Lincoln have won their first two league games. We're that desperate for a win personally I'd throw all thoughts of Fulham out of the window and play as strong a side as possible in every effort to gain one, but I have no doubts we'll play a 2nd string and struggle. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 11, 2019 13:07:58 GMT 1
Well what do we predict from the next 2 games? Surely we have enough weapons to sneak past Lincoln? Then defeat to Fulham? If he loses the next 2 he simply has to go. Lincoln have won their first two league games. We're that desperate for a win personally I'd throw all thoughts of Fulham out of the window and play as strong a side as possible in every effort to gain one, but I have no doubts we'll play a 2nd string and struggle. I'd agree with that. We just need to win a game. Lincoln will be no mugs, which is why I think if we are to win it'll be by the 1 goal. On paper we should have enough. |
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Post by mrbluesky on Aug 11, 2019 13:50:05 GMT 1
I hope the Crawley brothers are in the home dugout ASAP.
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Post by lankystreak on Aug 11, 2019 13:52:01 GMT 1
Genuine question for those who have voted to keep him, what is this based on other than blind optimism?
He's come in and had no form of positive effect on any aspect of the club. If this was an employee in any other profession they'd have been gone within a few weeks when it became obvious they were incompetent.
Also, this point about the lack of spending being a sign that the board don't belive in him, if that's the case then he should have gone in the summer.
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Post by Kenny irons on Aug 11, 2019 13:55:40 GMT 1
Repeating what I've been told this morning is that
Jan told Vlp he's in his squad prior to the Derby game. To then find out he needs to work harder to prove himself on the day of the game.
Jan told sabiri straight we don't have players with attitude at this club before he seen him kick a ball. A few of the current young lads are not keen on Jan at all
From a good source within the club
Don't shoot the messenger
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Aug 11, 2019 14:14:28 GMT 1
Preseason we looked decent. That's what gave so many cause for optimism.
When the season started, that is when the pressure started.
If the players had won on Saturday then we may have seen some more encouraging play. Having said that, we still got a draw playing poorly.
Lincoln will be interesting and tell us a lot more, not the same pressure and development players such as brown and koroma should get a game.
They should bring the youthful fearless factor into the game.
Let's see how we do Vs Lincoln and then if we win let's see how that affects the team selection next week.
Two losses and he's gone I believe. Maybe even a bad game at Lincoln.
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Post by royrace on Aug 11, 2019 15:04:53 GMT 1
This was from dean when Sievert was appointed-- "“My remit to David Wagner was to give Huddersfield Town an identity and over the last three-and-a-half years, we’ve established just that. We’ve now setup our Club to play in a certain way, from the Academy through to the First Team.“When David let us know he intended to step aside at the end of the season, we quickly moved to meet Jan; his name was still at the top of our list of possible successors. There was an immediate connection; you could see why he was so highly thought-of. He is articulate, passionate and he has a huge ambition to be a success. “ Many of his core philosophies and beliefs about how he wants his teams to play match our own. He likes high-effort, high-intensity, high-pressing football that is good to watch. “However, it is again too lazy to suggest that there will be no change here. He also made it very clear that he has his own beliefs and level of detail that will be a change for this Club. “That’s exactly what I wanted to hear; that Jan feels he can build on what has been achieved here and add to it. We’re not ripping up what we’ve built here; we’re trying to add to it and take it to the next level." So whilst he says hes his own man and will do it his way etc, there clearly was the intention that what Wagner had put in place.. the formation, style and systems of play would pretty much carry on. Has there been a break down in communication somewhere? Did one side of the agreement not make their intentions clear enough? Because what we're seeing so far has no correlation with the bits in bold that DH was saying. All a bit confusing. And I have a certain sympathy with Sievert too. He obviously knew we'd be getting relegated when he took the job , but was he told that he would be losing his best players , not just the ones hed fall out with, and would be given the budget of a lower end League 1 club to replace them all with? He , like all of us, must have assumed hed have a bit more in his armoury than that! Worst thing though, is that whilst youre trying to find reasons to be optimistic, there is absolutely nothing in this managers record, either here or before that you can point to and say ' well he did it there' ,... he did this, or he did that. There is nothing I can see to pin your hopes on that he can be a success. Its basically just relying on blind faith based on nothing. At the same time the reasons to NOT be optimistic are ramping up. I think it’s simply a case of that just being words than jan used in interview with zero substance. We can all talk a good game. Lots more due diligence required into every single facet. Clearly that wasn’t done or it was done badly. The blindingly obvious issue is his age, total lack of experience as a first team coach and the fact that he had quite a lot of failure under his belt already. An appalling appointment and obvious to most the club was making a huge mistake. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 11, 2019 15:30:32 GMT 1
Was never sure that Jan was the right appointment- can't think of many 36 year old successful managers at top level football who have no good previous track record. While he inherited a difficult situation, what was his role in the disgraces incident last Xmas?; why did his original no 2 leave so quickly?; why couldn't he persuade Smith to stay?and are the players supportive of him- doesn't seem so. If this is the case, we need someone else as respect once lost is rarely regained. The difficulty is when- end of the month giving new guy some time. over the break; Xmas? Or only if we look like danger of relegation? Or only when we have a nailed on good replacement? Choosing the next manager who will spend what money we have is PH's biggest decision. Worth paying for the best we can get, and waiting for the right one. It's a false economy to go cheap with inexperienced people. Its obvious hes not loved by the players.. Why would tommy smith leave for stoke? The fall out with all 3 danes?? Would mooy have been asking to leave if he was happy?? Where were mbenza, mounie and vlp yesterday?? Its developing in to a shitstorm.. Needs nipping in the bud.. Exactly... Maybe the players were right. Maybe it's Jan that's the problem and they could see it as plain as day. Far too many players have been out of the squad for non-footballing reasons. Add Sabiri to this list too. Maybe the fall outs suited the club.. Bad eggs move them on, easy way to lower the wage bill. One more thing... Quaner being back is an absolute joke when VLP is being sidelined for no reason. Piss poor man management. |
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Post by k1man999 on Aug 11, 2019 15:31:17 GMT 1
The decision to appoint JS is costing the club a fortune.
If we had of brought in an experienced manager maybe we could have stayed up (big ask I know) but extra prem money.
He has alienated players like billing whom we could have had more money for if managed better. Lots of players over the years at clubs have shown desire to move but have been told to knuckle down and they will get their move.
If he stays I suspect we will be no where near the business end of the table which in turn will turn away some of the new found fan base.
Apart from Hughton who else we gonna get.
If we get beat in the cup he's gone IMO
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 11, 2019 15:45:29 GMT 1
Well what do we predict from the next 2 games? Surely we have enough weapons to sneak past Lincoln? Then defeat to Fulham? If he loses the next 2 he simply has to go. Lincoln have won their first two league games. We're that desperate for a win personally I'd throw all thoughts of Fulham out of the window and play as strong a side as possible in every effort to gain one, but I have no doubts we'll play a 2nd string and struggle. Are our second string worse than the first? Not sure they could play any poorer than we saw yesterday to be honest |
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Post by crux on Aug 11, 2019 15:51:13 GMT 1
Repeating what I've been told this morning is that Jan told Vlp he's in his squad prior to the Derby game. To then find out he needs to work harder to prove himself on the day of the game. Jan told sabiri straight we don't have players with attitude at this club before he seen him kick a ball. A few of the current young lads are not keen on Jan at all From a good source within the club Don't shoot the messenger Tbf I think Sabiri was in the 'dog house' before Jan arrived and he was just repeating the club's stance. The VLP one is interesting if true, especially if he was told he was going to be in 18. Presumably there's more to it, such as VLP dropped his levels in training, or other players chosen to cover an injury. However, one of the hardest things a football manager has to do is to keep all the squad as happy as possible - you will need everyone at sometime and want them to perform at their best. Selecting someone and then 'dropping' them before the game isn't a good thing to do without a good reason and a suitable explanation to the player. I only caught the last 20 minutes or so yesterday and I thought we were awful. I have been in favour of keeping Jan and I wouldn't vote to sack him yet. However, this is an important week that could change my mind. Two defeats and I suspect he will get the sack anyway, but I think the minimum he needs to do to keep a decent level of support behind him is to beat Lincoln (even on penalties) and draw with Fulham. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Aug 11, 2019 15:55:35 GMT 1
Lincoln have won their first two league games. We're that desperate for a win personally I'd throw all thoughts of Fulham out of the window and play as strong a side as possible in every effort to gain one, but I have no doubts we'll play a 2nd string and struggle. Are our second string worse than the first? Not sure they could play any poorer than we saw yesterday to be honest Tbh no I don’t think it matters who he puts out they’ll look just as disjointed and unorganised. I suppose the hope is the first choice players might have the ability to do something out of nothing on their own. |
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Post by belvoirterrier on Aug 11, 2019 16:03:34 GMT 1
We are heading only one way with JS and that is downwards. The spirit and feeling within the club and town in general have gone.This is not about the manager it is what is best for the club. Leave it much longer and we will be adrift.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 11, 2019 16:05:41 GMT 1
This was from dean when Sievert was appointed-- "“My remit to David Wagner was to give Huddersfield Town an identity and over the last three-and-a-half years, we’ve established just that. We’ve now setup our Club to play in a certain way, from the Academy through to the First Team.“When David let us know he intended to step aside at the end of the season, we quickly moved to meet Jan; his name was still at the top of our list of possible successors. There was an immediate connection; you could see why he was so highly thought-of. He is articulate, passionate and he has a huge ambition to be a success. “ Many of his core philosophies and beliefs about how he wants his teams to play match our own. He likes high-effort, high-intensity, high-pressing football that is good to watch. “However, it is again too lazy to suggest that there will be no change here. He also made it very clear that he has his own beliefs and level of detail that will be a change for this Club. “That’s exactly what I wanted to hear; that Jan feels he can build on what has been achieved here and add to it. We’re not ripping up what we’ve built here; we’re trying to add to it and take it to the next level." So whilst he says hes his own man and will do it his way etc, there clearly was the intention that what Wagner had put in place.. the formation, style and systems of play would pretty much carry on. Has there been a break down in communication somewhere? Did one side of the agreement not make their intentions clear enough? Because what we're seeing so far has no correlation with the bits in bold that DH was saying. All a bit confusing. And I have a certain sympathy with Sievert too. He obviously knew we'd be getting relegated when he took the job , but was he told that he would be losing his best players , not just the ones hed fall out with, and would be given the budget of a lower end League 1 club to replace them all with? He , like all of us, must have assumed hed have a bit more in his armoury than that! Worst thing though, is that whilst youre trying to find reasons to be optimistic, there is absolutely nothing in this managers record, either here or before that you can point to and say ' well he did it there' ,... he did this, or he did that. There is nothing I can see to pin your hopes on that he can be a success. Its basically just relying on blind faith based on nothing. At the same time the reasons to NOT be optimistic are ramping up. I think it’s simply a case of that just being words than jan used in interview with zero substance. We can all talk a good game. Lots more due diligence required into every single facet. Clearly that wasn’t done or it was done badly. The blindingly obvious issue is his age, total lack of experience as a first team coach and the fact that he had quite a lot of failure under his belt already. An appalling appointment and obvious to most the club was making a huge mistake. It could well just be another in a growing line of mistakes and ill judged stabs in the dark that we seem to have brought on ourselves ever since Dean got ill. To say the club has been run cack-handedly over the past year or so is a bit of an understatement IMO. Weve had another failed , short lasting director of football, resulting in an atrociously bad summer window in 2018 Which in turn lead to an atrociously bad season. The whole Mbenza episode where depending on the rumour you believe, we've payed between £8m and £11m for a player Im not sure is worth £1m. Wagner losing his mojo to the point he couldn;t wait to resign. Appointing Siewart based on.. what exactly?? Has there ever been a more unqualified manager be given a job in the prem? All sorts of unrest and falling out in the dressing room. Paying Barnsley compo for Winkler only to fire him 2 or 3 months later. The whole dog badge change farce and signing off on a kit whilst in the prem that was so poor in build quality any local pub side would have been embarrassed. Then with no director of football in place, another hopeless transfer window this summer thats seen so many proven better players leave to be replaced by the kind of players we would have expected when David Taylor owned the club. 2 years in the prem, thick end of £50m parachute this season, about £25m from player sales , sell out in season tickets and yet we don;t seem to have a bean to spend by championship standards once again? Dean getting ill obviously re-foccused his own attentions and not surprisingly Town werent a priority for him at that time, but even so the way the club has gone from being so well run and successful to almost descended into farce over such a short time is amazing. Appointing a manager like Sievert, with absolutely nothing as evidence he will be any good, is just another cack handed stab in the dark IMO. |
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Post by loumacari on Aug 11, 2019 16:15:55 GMT 1
I think it’s simply a case of that just being words than jan used in interview with zero substance. We can all talk a good game. Lots more due diligence required into every single facet. Clearly that wasn’t done or it was done badly. The blindingly obvious issue is his age, total lack of experience as a first team coach and the fact that he had quite a lot of failure under his belt already. An appalling appointment and obvious to most the club was making a huge mistake. It could well just be another in a growing line of mistakes and ill judged stabs in the dark that we seem to have brought on ourselves ever since Dean got ill. To say the club has been run cack-handedly over the past year or so is a bit of an understatement IMO. Weve had another failed , short lasting director of football, resulting in an atrociously bad summer window in 2018 Which in turn lead to an atrociously bad season. The whole Mbenza episode where depending on the rumour you believe, we've payed between £8m and £11m for a player Im not sure is worth £1m. Wagner losing his mojo to the point he couldn;t wait to resign. Appointing Siewart based on.. what exactly?? Has there ever been a more unqualified manager be given a job in the prem? All sorts of unrest and falling out in the dressing room. Paying Barnsley compo for Winkler only to fire him 2 or 3 months later. The whole dog badge change farce and signing off on a kit whilst in the prem that was so poor in build quality any local pub side would have been embarrassed. Then with no director of football in place, another hopeless transfer window this summer thats seen so many proven better players leave to be replaced by the kind of players we would have expected when David Taylor owned the club. 2 years in the prem, thick end of £50m parachute this season, about £25m from player sales , sell out in season tickets and yet we don;t seem to have a bean to spend by championship standards once again? Dean getting ill obviously re-foccused his own attentions and not surprisingly Town werent a priority for him at that time, but even so the way the club has gone from being so well run and successful to almost descended into farce over such a short time is amazing. Appointing a manager like Sievert, with absolutely nothing as evidence he will be any good, is just another cack handed stab in the dark IMO. A good post which raises an important question, what is the point of Julian Winter? |
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Post by Giggity on Aug 11, 2019 16:21:56 GMT 1
Where does Siewert's win record rank him alongside all of the past managers? I imagine his 5-6% record will be at least a good 10-15% worse than the next manager.
Time to end his and our misery.
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 11, 2019 16:27:30 GMT 1
It could well just be another in a growing line of mistakes and ill judged stabs in the dark that we seem to have brought on ourselves ever since Dean got ill. To say the club has been run cack-handedly over the past year or so is a bit of an understatement IMO. Weve had another failed , short lasting director of football, resulting in an atrociously bad summer window in 2018 Which in turn lead to an atrociously bad season. The whole Mbenza episode where depending on the rumour you believe, we've payed between £8m and £11m for a player Im not sure is worth £1m. Wagner losing his mojo to the point he couldn;t wait to resign. Appointing Siewart based on.. what exactly?? Has there ever been a more unqualified manager be given a job in the prem? All sorts of unrest and falling out in the dressing room. Paying Barnsley compo for Winkler only to fire him 2 or 3 months later. The whole dog badge change farce and signing off on a kit whilst in the prem that was so poor in build quality any local pub side would have been embarrassed. Then with no director of football in place, another hopeless transfer window this summer thats seen so many proven better players leave to be replaced by the kind of players we would have expected when David Taylor owned the club. 2 years in the prem, thick end of £50m parachute this season, about £25m from player sales , sell out in season tickets and yet we don;t seem to have a bean to spend by championship standards once again? Dean getting ill obviously re-foccused his own attentions and not surprisingly Town werent a priority for him at that time, but even so the way the club has gone from being so well run and successful to almost descended into farce over such a short time is amazing. Appointing a manager like Sievert, with absolutely nothing as evidence he will be any good, is just another cack handed stab in the dark IMO. A good post which raises and important question, what is the point of Julian Winter? You just took the words right out of my mouth. |
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 11, 2019 16:32:05 GMT 1
I don't know what to think anymore. We are in a bit of a mess and it is all of our own making. So many fundamental mistakes; each mistake seemingly compounding the previous mistake.
We have cornered the feelbad atmosphere and I am struggling to see any positives. If I could actually see what Jan is trying to achieve, some green shoots of recovery, then I could support the guy going forward. But I can't. I have no idea what he is trying to achieve with the worst 433 system I have ever seen.
Worrying times and I feel we have more hurt on the way. Sometimes you have to reach rock bottom before you can refocus. Buckle up for a bumpy ride!
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Post by dirtysteve on Aug 11, 2019 17:41:16 GMT 1
I’ve absolutely no idea why we hired him in the first place. No track record at all. I thought we’d bought him in as he would set up and play similarly to how DW had before him with the high press and possession based football. How wrong I was.
There’s all the rumblings of him losing the dressing room, dropping key players, players slating him and so on. Surely they can’t all be lies. You could have all the best players in the world in your own dressing room but if they’re not buying into your system then it’s set for failure.
I personally can’t see PH letting him go. If PH wanted someone else then surely this should have been addressed at the end of last season. Why give a man a transfer window and a full pre-season if you’re going to fire him??
I realise that we are only 2 games into it but realistically with a squad like ours we should have bossed the first 2 games, unfortunately we were shit and look disjointed at best; everything that DW did for our club has been undone. The terrier spirit has fucked off and with it I wish JS would too.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Aug 11, 2019 18:28:37 GMT 1
I don't know what to think anymore. We are in a bit of a mess and it is all of our own making. So many fundamental mistakes; each mistake seemingly compounding the previous mistake.We have cornered the feelbad atmosphere and I am struggling to see any positives. If I could actually see what Jan is trying to achieve, some green shoots of recovery, then I could support the guy going forward. But I can't. I have no idea what he is trying to achieve with the worst 433 system I have ever seen. Worrying times and I feel we have more hurt on the way. Sometimes you have to reach rock bottom before you can refocus. Buckle up for a bumpy ride! I reckon we have to be one of the naivest clubs out there, you look at some of the decisions that are made and have to wonder how they came to be. Imagine any other club in the Premier League hiring a manager of Siewert’s stature, it just wouldn’t happen. |
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 11, 2019 18:49:17 GMT 1
I think the chairman will have a couple of ideas on how to approach the future. He will be very keen to keep JS simply because he now has a new team around him in Colin Bell and David Webb, and he cannot get rid of the set up after Bell has been 2 weeks in the job. Don't forget, JS goes and CB also goes. He'll be seeing how this pans out, and if Town are mid-table by Christmas, he stays. The other scenario is that we go on a nightmare run in this Championship season and we are near the bottom after 10 games and don't have a recognisable style of playing. JS must have presented his playing style to the selection committee before he got the job, so they must have been happy with it, but at the moment he doesn't seem to be getting his ideas across to the players, or the players are so short of confidence that they cannot implement it. In this case JS is on very thin ice and it is obviously not working for him or his staff, therefore they will need to be replaced if we are to maintain our status in the Championship. And to reiterate what I said yesterday, it does no harm to start doing your research on a new head coach now. Then there is the fan problem. Plenty are horrified  at the situation at the moment, evidenced by the reaction on Town's favourite forum. The problem is that the ones who are horrified are the same who were horrified that JS was chosen in the first place, so I think PH needs to take this into account. While the usual mob were lambasting the QPR performance, a number were saying that that was a massive overreaction, and we played quite well in parts of the first half with a structure. He will have seen it for himself, so I'd hope that he can talk candidly with JS about the more concerning aspects of the game. What I don't want him to do is to try and appease the fans so that we enter into a sacking/hiring cycle, taking the next taxi off the rank, only to repeat 12 months later. Once people get used to the fact that at the moment we are back to being a competitive Championship club, things may calm down. The problem is the fans have become accustomed to a situation where all the stars were aligned and the team massively over performed. Once fans understand that that situation was quite exceptional, only then can we move forward in a sustainable manner and have another crack at the PL. Which game did you go to yesterday? We had 11 men behind the ball for 80% of the game and we set up for a draw. because the manager is desperate to get some sort of result. QPR are a poor side and they made us defend for most of the game. Believe me we had absolutely no game plan we did virtually no pressing ( when we did we looked better) and we created virtually no chances from open play. I desperately want Town to win but I can only see things getting worse if we do not get rid of this manager now. Unfortunately in my opinion the board are equally to blame for the position we find ourselves in by employing someone who is simply not capable of doing the job. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2019 18:55:39 GMT 1
Who Frank ?
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Post by lorddriffield on Aug 11, 2019 18:58:04 GMT 1
They can't sack him now! It's his birthday this month, wait till September at least!
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 11, 2019 19:07:02 GMT 1
I think the chairman will have a couple of ideas on how to approach the future. He will be very keen to keep JS simply because he now has a new team around him in Colin Bell and David Webb, and he cannot get rid of the set up after Bell has been 2 weeks in the job. Don't forget, JS goes and CB also goes. He'll be seeing how this pans out, and if Town are mid-table by Christmas, he stays. The other scenario is that we go on a nightmare run in this Championship season and we are near the bottom after 10 games and don't have a recognisable style of playing. JS must have presented his playing style to the selection committee before he got the job, so they must have been happy with it, but at the moment he doesn't seem to be getting his ideas across to the players, or the players are so short of confidence that they cannot implement it. In this case JS is on very thin ice and it is obviously not working for him or his staff, therefore they will need to be replaced if we are to maintain our status in the Championship. And to reiterate what I said yesterday, it does no harm to start doing your research on a new head coach now. Then there is the fan problem. Plenty are horrified at the situation at the moment, evidenced by the reaction on Town's favourite forum. The problem is that the ones who are horrified are the same who were horrified that JS was chosen in the first place, so I think PH needs to take this into account. While the usual mob were lambasting the QPR performance, a number were saying that that was a massive overreaction, and we played quite well in parts of the first half with a structure. He will have seen it for himself, so I'd hope that he can talk candidly with JS about the more concerning aspects of the game. What I don't want him to do is to try and appease the fans so that we enter into a sacking/hiring cycle, taking the next taxi off the rank, only to repeat 12 months later. Once people get used to the fact that at the moment we are back to being a competitive Championship club, things may calm down. The problem is the fans have become accustomed to a situation where all the stars were aligned and the team massively over performed. Once fans understand that that situation was quite exceptional, only then can we move forward in a sustainable manner and have another crack at the PL. Which game did you go to yesterday? We had 11 men behind the ball for 80% of the game and we set up for a draw. because the manager is desperate to get some sort of result. QPR are a poor side and they made us defend for most of the game. Believe me we had absolutely no game plan we did virtually no pressing ( when we did we looked better) and we created virtually no chances from open play. I desperately want Town to win but I can only see things getting worse if we do not get rid of this manager now. Unfortunately in my opinion the board are equally to blame for the position we find ourselves in by employing someone who is simply not capable of doing the job. That's it, start your own sack Siewert thread and then when people get tired of it, start infiltrating the other one |
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Post by willo on Aug 11, 2019 19:16:30 GMT 1
If all this was going on down the road from us, we’d be laughing. It’s exactly the sort of carnival we’d expect from our near neighbours.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 11, 2019 19:19:20 GMT 1
If by ‘all this’ you mean the absolute nut jobs blowing everything out of all proportion then I agree.
If by ‘all this’ you mean us losing 1 game and drawing 1 game then I refer to point one.
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at the situation at the moment, evidenced by the reaction on Town's favourite forum. The problem is that the ones who are horrified are the same who were horrified that JS was chosen in the first place, so I think PH needs to take this into account. While the usual mob were lambasting the QPR performance, a number were saying that that was a massive overreaction, and we played quite well in parts of the first half with a structure. He will have seen it for himself, so I'd hope that he can talk candidly with JS about the more concerning aspects of the game. What I don't want him to do is to try and appease the fans so that we enter into a sacking/hiring cycle, taking the next taxi off the rank, only to repeat 12 months later.
