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Post by lindleyterrier88 on Aug 19, 2019 23:38:53 GMT 1
What a mess they are in!!! Things are shit for us right now, but as Bury’s plight shows, they could be worse...
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 19, 2019 23:47:01 GMT 1
Yeah its a shame.
Ive always liked the club for no other reason than their fans could so easily support man utd or man City, but no, they follow their own towns club who they know will never do anything.
saw the 4-4, 6-0 and 0-6 at Gigg Lane back in the late 80s,early 90s. Have it in my head they were 3 years running, but thats probably wrong.
Hope they get through this somehow.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Aug 20, 2019 3:28:35 GMT 1
Yes I hope they can come through it too. A nice little club with fans who refuse to be glory seekers.
I used to work with a guy from Halifax who was a lifelong fan of Manchester United. He could never understand my contempt.
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Post by lorddriffield on Aug 20, 2019 6:24:23 GMT 1
I had a group of mates once who were all Bury supporters so have always had a soft spot for the club. A real shame that it's got this far and another reason that the so-called "fit and proper person" test to see who owns and runs a football club should be looked into. Buying a club for a quid and running 125 years of history into the ground is disgraceful. Not to mention all the people dedicated to the club not even being paid for months.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 20, 2019 6:49:38 GMT 1
Yeah its a shame. Ive always liked the club for no other reason than their fans could so easily support man utd or man City, but no, they follow their own towns club who they know will never do anything. saw the 4-4, 6-0 and 0-6 at Gigg Lane back in the late 80s,early 90s. Have it in my head they were 3 years running, but thats probably wrong. Hope they get through this somehow. The two 6-0 games were in consecutive seasons but the 4-4 was in 91/92 think the other two were 88/89 & 89/90. Think the 90/91 meeting at High Lane finished 2-1 to Bury on a wet Easter Monday.....that's just from memory. |
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Aug 20, 2019 7:32:29 GMT 1
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 20, 2019 7:32:29 GMT 1
Clarky and Stewart Dale.. Two people unlikely to be given the freedom of the town of Bury
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Post by football on Aug 20, 2019 7:33:13 GMT 1
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Post by hoppo on Aug 20, 2019 8:11:49 GMT 1
I live in Manchester and I run for Radcliffe AC which is in the Bury area, many of my friends are Bury fans...emotions are a mix of anger and sadness at the moment. My daughters boyfriend is a Bolton fan and they arent much better off......you have to ask what the EFL and the FA are doing to prevent these situations......it nearly did happen to us a few years back....and it might happen again....you only have to get some dodgy geezer without the means he says he has buying the club as a 'true fan'...and look what happens!....oh wait.....hang on!
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Post by Skint Terriers on Aug 20, 2019 10:16:37 GMT 1
I think I'm being a bit thick here but is their owner still the Town fan? Or has somebody else taken over since him
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Aug 20, 2019 10:19:20 GMT 1
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 20, 2019 10:19:20 GMT 1
I think I'm being a bit thick here but is their owner still the Town fan? Or has somebody else taken over since him Someone else has taken over since Stewart Day. |
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Post by stevvy on Aug 20, 2019 17:31:18 GMT 1
He's rejected an offer from an ex chairman, because he thinks he can get a better deal, even though the club could be expelled from the league on Friday
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The EFL have just said their game against Tranmere on Saturday has been suspended, and Sheff Weds have been awarded the win from the R1 EFL Cup game (probably to avoid causing more issues with scheduling as it means they and Rotherham now know they're playing each other next week)
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 20, 2019 18:40:21 GMT 1
He's rejected an offer from an ex chairman, because he thinks he can get a better deal, even though the club could be expelled from the league on Friday Edit: The EFL have just said their game against Tranmere on Saturday has been suspended, and Sheff Weds have been awarded the win from the R1 EFL Cup game (probably to avoid causing more issues with scheduling as it means they and Rotherham now know they're playing each other next week) So Sheff W, Cardiff, Fulham & Lincoln have all been given byes into the next round  |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Aug 20, 2019 18:48:46 GMT 1
Our abandoned game at Blackpool was declared a draw with the justification that points have to be earned on the pitch, but in the current plight of Bury progress to the next round of the cup can be awarded on a whim.
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Post by mrg on Aug 20, 2019 19:18:27 GMT 1
He's rejected an offer from an ex chairman, because he thinks he can get a better deal, even though the club could be expelled from the league on Friday Edit: The EFL have just said their game against Tranmere on Saturday has been suspended, and Sheff Weds have been awarded the win from the R1 EFL Cup game (probably to avoid causing more issues with scheduling as it means they and Rotherham now know they're playing each other next week) That basically says they are done to me. To get the legals done will take a week surely, after transferring the funds into a single account with 1p more than required so none knows the investors total net worth. This is sad but I think they are done. It takes 48 hours to come up with proof of funds so I'll be really surprised if everything else gets through by cop Friday. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 20, 2019 19:32:11 GMT 1
He's rejected an offer from an ex chairman, because he thinks he can get a better deal, even though the club could be expelled from the league on Friday Edit: The EFL have just said their game against Tranmere on Saturday has been suspended, and Sheff Weds have been awarded the win from the R1 EFL Cup game (probably to avoid causing more issues with scheduling as it means they and Rotherham now know they're playing each other next week) That basically says they are done to me. To get the legals done will take a week surely, after transferring the funds into a single account with 1p more than required so none knows the investors total net worth. This is sad but I think they are done. It takes 48 hours to come up with proof of funds so I'll be really surprised if everything else gets through by cop Friday. I presume if they can prove a deals in the offing by Friday they won't be expelled, I hope so anyway |
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Post by impact on Aug 20, 2019 19:43:24 GMT 1
What I don't understand in all this is why they have been treated differently to Bolton. Neither takeover seems close, neither have senior players yet Bolton have been allowed to play and aren't being threatened with expulsion?
Screams bigger club bias to me.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 20, 2019 20:30:44 GMT 1
What I don't understand in all this is why they have been treated differently to Bolton. Neither takeover seems close, neither have senior players yet Bolton have been allowed to play and aren't being threatened with expulsion? Screams bigger club bias to me. I think it boils down to the fact that the Bury owner has repeatedly failed to provide the EFL with the answers that they require, whereas although Bolton are in the shit, they've probably been more upfront in regards to what's going on. Its a sad situation for both club's fans but in fairness to the EFL they can't carry on forever postponing games with no end in sight. |
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Post by impact on Aug 20, 2019 21:48:47 GMT 1
What I don't understand in all this is why they have been treated differently to Bolton. Neither takeover seems close, neither have senior players yet Bolton have been allowed to play and aren't being threatened with expulsion? Screams bigger club bias to me. I think it boils down to the fact that the Bury owner has repeatedly failed to provide the EFL with the answers that they require, whereas although Bolton are in the shit, they've probably been more upfront in regards to what's going on. Its a sad situation for both club's fans but in fairness to the EFL they can't carry on forever postponing games with no end in sight. Wasn't the evidence about having a deal in place though or something similar? That could be wrong, but neither club has got close to a deal so far. And even if the Bury chairman hadn't been upfront (but given the PFA have stepped in to pay 50% of the wages I assume they must have been?) is that any reason to postpone all their games? I agree they can't keep on postponing, but I don't understand why the 2 clubs have been treated differently. |
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Aug 20, 2019 21:49:03 GMT 1
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 20, 2019 21:49:03 GMT 1
What I don't understand in all this is why they have been treated differently to Bolton. Neither takeover seems close, neither have senior players yet Bolton have been allowed to play and aren't being threatened with expulsion? Screams bigger club bias to me. I think it boils down to the fact that the Bury owner has repeatedly failed to provide the EFL with the answers that they require, whereas although Bolton are in the shit, they've probably been more upfront in regards to what's going on. Its a sad situation for both club's fans but in fairness to the EFL they can't carry on forever postponing games with no end in sight. If they ever get to start they are going to have a massive fixture pile up, plus their League Cup tie. It'll get to a point where they can't start their fixtures. They should probably expel them from the League Cup given its round 2 next week. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 20, 2019 22:28:30 GMT 1
I think it boils down to the fact that the Bury owner has repeatedly failed to provide the EFL with the answers that they require, whereas although Bolton are in the shit, they've probably been more upfront in regards to what's going on. Its a sad situation for both club's fans but in fairness to the EFL they can't carry on forever postponing games with no end in sight. If they ever get to start they are going to have a massive fixture pile up, plus their League Cup tie. It'll get to a point where they can't start their fixtures. They should probably expel them from the League Cup given its round 2 next week. Bury were expelled from the cup today and Sheff Weds now play Rotherham in round two |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 20, 2019 22:49:18 GMT 1
I think it boils down to the fact that the Bury owner has repeatedly failed to provide the EFL with the answers that they require, whereas although Bolton are in the shit, they've probably been more upfront in regards to what's going on. Its a sad situation for both club's fans but in fairness to the EFL they can't carry on forever postponing games with no end in sight. Wasn't the evidence about having a deal in place though or something similar? That could be wrong, but neither club has got close to a deal so far. And even if the Bury chairman hadn't been upfront (but given the PFA have stepped in to pay 50% of the wages I assume they must have been?) is that any reason to postpone all their games? I agree they can't keep on postponing, but I don't understand why the 2 clubs have been treated differently. This is the statement the EFL released today re Bury. www.efl.com/news/2019/august/efl-statement-bury-fc-update3Bolton appear to be in the process of a sale to a group called Football Ventures but complications arose following a court injunction by Laurence Bassini (former Watford Chairman) who was attempting to block the sale as he was also trying to buy the club. Although its dragging on they appear to be a bit further down the line than Bury. www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/statement-on-behalf-of-paul-appleton-joint-administrator-for-bolton-wanderers2/ |
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Post by impact on Aug 20, 2019 23:52:44 GMT 1
Wasn't the evidence about having a deal in place though or something similar? That could be wrong, but neither club has got close to a deal so far. And even if the Bury chairman hadn't been upfront (but given the PFA have stepped in to pay 50% of the wages I assume they must have been?) is that any reason to postpone all their games? I agree they can't keep on postponing, but I don't understand why the 2 clubs have been treated differently. This is the statement the EFL released today re Bury. www.efl.com/news/2019/august/efl-statement-bury-fc-update3Bolton appear to be in the process of a sale to a group called Football Ventures but complications arose following a court injunction by Laurence Bassini (former Watford Chairman) who was attempting to block the sale as he was also trying to buy the club. Although its dragging on they appear to be a bit further down the line than Bury. www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2019/august/statement-on-behalf-of-paul-appleton-joint-administrator-for-bolton-wanderers2/That process has been going on for months. It's a total mess, not helped by the hotel not immediately being a part of the deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 0:45:48 GMT 1
Our abandoned game at Blackpool was declared a draw with the justification that points have to be earned on the pitch, but in the current plight of Bury progress to the next round of the cup can be awarded on a whim. Well remembered and pointed out piece of unfair bullshit there. Thankfully the Blackpool fans forcing the end of the game and denial of our legitimately earned 3 points didn’t cost us on that occasion. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 1:16:39 GMT 1
Might be unfair of me to single out an individual or a family, but where are the Nevilles? Instead of pumping your millions into trying to propel a non-league team up the leagues by massively outspending your rivals, why not back a team that has a stand named after your father?
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Post by lochnessterrier on Aug 21, 2019 4:07:19 GMT 1
Sadly I think we are about to see the birth of AFC Bury somewhere down the pyramid. Such a shame for their fans and I hope they can maybe do a Wimbledon and start to climb back up.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 21, 2019 4:57:16 GMT 1
Might be unfair of me to single out an individual or a family, but where are the Nevilles? Instead of pumping your millions into trying to propel a non-league team up the leagues by massively outspending your rivals, why not back a team that has a stand named after your father? Seems to be the way in non league football now. Rich man takes tiny club to the league to satisfy his ego. No fan base nothing. Meanwhile traditional non league clubs with great histories within their level go to the wall every week. Football is a joke these days, not helped by inadequate non league administration. |
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Post by lochnessterrier on Aug 21, 2019 6:14:29 GMT 1
The greedy league should be made to support clubs lower down the pyramid. Instead of 20 clubs sharing a pot of £2.5 billion they could give £100 grand to every club in the EFL. It would be a drop in the ocean to PL clubs but would be a lifeline to clubs like Bury.
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Post by space hardware on Aug 21, 2019 7:39:31 GMT 1
The greedy league should be made to support clubs lower down the pyramid. Instead of 20 clubs sharing a pot of £2.5 billion they could give £100 grand to every club in the EFL. It would be a drop in the ocean to PL clubs but would be a lifeline to clubs like Bury. I agree with the sentiment there but the likelihood is that clubs would still spend that "lifeline" and more on piss poor players and end up with the begging bowl out for more money in a couple of years. |
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Post by Marshleeds on Aug 21, 2019 7:45:58 GMT 1
The greedy league should be made to support clubs lower down the pyramid. Instead of 20 clubs sharing a pot of £2.5 billion they could give £100 grand to every club in the EFL. It would be a drop in the ocean to PL clubs but would be a lifeline to clubs like Bury. I agree with the sentiment there but the likelihood is that clubs would still spend that "lifeline" and more on piss poor players and end up with the begging bowl out for more money in a couple of years. Sadly probably true, have past and present associates and friends who are die hard supporters of both Bury and Bolton and really sorry to see their current plights no matter what has caused it. There but for the grace of God........... |
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 21, 2019 8:41:26 GMT 1
Been some great games between Bury and Town down the years the 6-0 games, the 4-4 game, even the 2-1 home win game in which O'Regan went into goal and then had to come up to score a penalty.
I feel sorry for the fans of Bury and it is a shame the FA are acting this way towards them, still I guess they are too busy taking action against Town for wearing a kit that raised £££s for charity and overlooking players who feign injury and deserve lengthy bans for it.
Yes, the chairman does indeed need to accept an offer for the club and hopefully he will, but chucking Bury out of the league with severely damage the Town.
Surely if Bury were allowed to play their games instead of constant cancellations, it would make the club a more attractive proposition to any buyer and also allow some much needed monies to flow into the club.
If they are expelled from the league it will make an odd number of teams in the league so come the last day of the season one team will not be playing as their fixtures will have been completed.
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