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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 24, 2019 10:11:00 GMT 1
Im really really implausibly stupid. Corrected it for you. So clever thanks lol |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 10:16:26 GMT 1
Imo he needs to Do an Odeon film part two, Tell us exactly what is going on, Why didnt we sign decent players ? How on earth can approx 240 million go in two years ? Especially when transfers are paid over the duration of the contracts. Still not sure how we made 23m profit ?? Because assets and liabilities are not shown in the profit and loss accounts. So the figure of £23m profit wouldn't include transfers in or out. |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Aug 24, 2019 10:36:51 GMT 1
Im not stupid ! Just find it really really implausible What bit do you find it implausable? that in year 1, our wage bill was £60m (it was in the accounts) Assuming it was similar in year 2, thats £120m + Or that roughly £100m was spent/ committed on wages, agents fees etc. Add in £5 m on stadium improvements and £20m on Canalside.what total have you got? Wage bill of £60m reduced by 40% still leaves a bill of 3 times what it was 3 years ago which will be coverered by year 1 parachute payments. All this was explained ......its not hard to understand. Kudos for trying but you really are pissing into a strong wind, a few months ago someone on here was demanding to know what had happened to all our money from the Reading Final !! If you spend say £1M on a players transfer fee, give him a 3 year contract on £25K a week (or 3 x 52 x 25,000 = £3.9M excluding any bonus payments) that's £4.9M over the 3 years, in a good year we sell 18,000 season cards which at an average of £200 each ( adults and kids ) brings in £3.6M. The £100M a year from Sky really doesn't go far when you spend £5M or £10M on 4 or 5 players and start paying £40K or £50K a week. It's a totally different argument as to wether or not the player is any good, clearly some are not but can we please put to bed this constant questioning "where's the money gone ?" - it's gone on players and their wages - we've currently got Kongolo at fullback, he cost somewhere in the region of £17M, his weekly wage will ( I assume ) be around £40K after relegation reductions - Mick Buxton had Mally Brown bought for around £10K. |
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Post by 4 pts on Aug 24, 2019 10:41:13 GMT 1
The jokes, the promotional shite was all backed up by Big Phil at the Odeon as blatantly shown through slide shows on the cinema screen. Far too much emphasis as a club was put on the said commercial side, our branding, changing the badge.....again and who "we are" as a club rather than the most important part. ......the football on the pitch. The commercial side should never ever sit at the top table. A question for you. As a club that is comparable to us, do you see Burnley pissing about ? Its almost as if think its impossible to make 2 decisions in the same day. You probably think PH was up all night sorting the slides out on a dodgy version of paintshop. Get a grip It doesn't take long at all and definitely not from May to August to understand that Siewert was out of his depth. I believe 99% of our support saw that around 3 or 4 games into his tenure. I would also suggest it takes no time whatsoever to see that our first choice midfield and attack against Derby had over 900 appearances and less than 100 goals between them (30 from one man) but PH confirmed we have "goals all over the park" at the Q&A. Oh and Kongolo is a left back.......I think. You would need something stronger than caustic soda to remove the crap from that |
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Post by Larry David on Aug 28, 2019 17:38:33 GMT 1
There is a slight worry having listened to all the Bury debacle that this guy could be the start of something bad. I'm not saying he is a Steve Dale character (what a prick he is btw) but some of the things I've heard going on at Bury have striking parallels to me and I hope we aren't going same way.
Some worries from me:
- Silence from board
- No clear strategy or direction
- Lies about players in compared to players out
- absolute disharmony at the club
- Unclear about where his money has come from to purchase the club in the first place
- players wages had an adjustment based on relegation and this was factored into the strategy according to DH
- numerous players left on big wages and only a handful of low earners brought in
- false claims to sell season tickets
The fans deserve answers to many of these queries as soon as possible from the new chairman if he has any decency.
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 28, 2019 18:15:31 GMT 1
The budget for the next 3 seasons was set once relegation was known. PH has come in and agreed to follow the budget that was set.
Do people honestly think, therefore, our spending levels would be any different if DH was still in charge? Would he be receiving the same level of mistrust and criticism?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 18:19:55 GMT 1
The budget for the next 3 seasons was set once relegation was known. PH has come in and agreed to follow the budget that was set. Do people honestly think, therefore, our spending levels would be any different if DH was still in charge? Would he be receiving the same level of mistrust and criticism? Anybody would think Dean has sold the club lock stock and barrel and run away to the Seychelles or something. HE'S STILL THERE. This is not aimed at you Maynard. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 18:39:23 GMT 1
Silence from the board? What do you need them to say?
They're in the process of looking for a new manager, surely that takes priority. Pretty sure they'll let us all know once that's complete.
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Post by specialun on Aug 28, 2019 20:08:18 GMT 1
Pure business is ‘very profitable and very successful’
Don’t worry about what the public accounts for Pure Legal Limited show
Why? Phil said it is very profitable and very successful.
So it must be true
I’m sure someone can find the very profitable Pure entity on Companies House
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Post by Fatphil on Aug 28, 2019 20:20:18 GMT 1
The budget for the next 3 seasons was set once relegation was known. PH has come in and agreed to follow the budget that was set. Do people honestly think, therefore, our spending levels would be any different if DH was still in charge? Would he be receiving the same level of mistrust and criticism? Anybody would think Dean has sold the club lock stock and barrel and run away to the Seychelles or something. HE'S STILL THERE. This is not aimed at you Maynard. "I've never been average in anything I've ever done" Fucking nailed it there pal.... just shit. |
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Post by wainwright on Aug 28, 2019 21:21:20 GMT 1
Pure business is ‘very profitable and very successful’ Don’t worry about what the public accounts for Pure Legal Limited show Why? Phil said it is very profitable and very successful. So it must be true I’m sure someone can find the very profitable Pure entity on Companies House He got away with that nonsense at Southport because they were desperate for somebody to spend some money after years of under investment. Different ball game now PHIL? |
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 28, 2019 21:26:31 GMT 1
Pure business is ‘very profitable and very successful’ Don’t worry about what the public accounts for Pure Legal Limited show Why? Phil said it is very profitable and very successful. So it must be true I’m sure someone can find the very profitable Pure entity on Companies House He got away with that nonsense at Southport because they were desperate for somebody to spend some money after years of under investment. Different ball game now PHIL? Welcome back James. Anymore insightful comments from the Southport days? |
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Post by townatheart on Aug 28, 2019 21:33:02 GMT 1
Pure business is ‘very profitable and very successful’ Don’t worry about what the public accounts for Pure Legal Limited show Why? Phil said it is very profitable and very successful. So it must be true I’m sure someone can find the very profitable Pure entity on Companies House He got away with that nonsense at Southport because they were desperate for somebody to spend some money after years of under investment. Different ball game now PHIL? Seen any trolls lately? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 22:01:14 GMT 1
He got away with that nonsense at Southport because they were desperate for somebody to spend some money after years of under investment. Different ball game now PHIL? Seen any trolls lately? Is he any relation to Aunty? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 22:34:21 GMT 1
He did tell us , you either chose not to listen, or did you find it too difficult to understand Im not stupid ! Just find it really really implausible What difference to your level of plausibility will it make by simply repeating the exact same plausible info? |
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Post by townrwe on Aug 29, 2019 6:05:55 GMT 1
Im not stupid ! Just find it really really implausible What bit do you find it implausable? that in year 1, our wage bill was £60m (it was in the accounts) Assuming it was similar in year 2, thats £120m + Or that roughly £100m was spent/ committed on wages, agents fees etc. Add in £5 m on stadium improvements and £20m on Canalside.what total have you got? Wage bill of £60m reduced by 40% still leaves a bill of 3 times what it was 3 years ago which will be coverered by year 1 parachute payments. All this was explained ......its not hard to understand. Absolutely madness to do it like we did. Norwich again, with webber again, are going to nail it. We need a proper director of football, who knows football and has a moneyball style of a plan. Somehow we managed to buy card factory players at Clinton's prices without even having anyone quality checking or making sure they were for the right occasion. We now have a van full of happy birth of your 10th child and congratulations on your hysterectomy cards that are useful once in a blue moon. |
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Post by Giggity on Aug 31, 2019 17:05:49 GMT 1
The clown couldn't run a bath never mind a football club.
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Post by specialun on Aug 31, 2019 17:13:50 GMT 1
1. Pure business is “very profitable and very successful”
Not one person here has been able to show me a profitable Pure business
He wouldn’t be so daft to make this statement if it wasn’t true so it must be correct
After all Mids has told us he isn’t as stupid as some make out
Which company is very profitable?
2. There’s a “misapprehension that I own Pure business”
Companies House shows he has majority shareholding in Pure Legal Limited and Pure Business Group Limited
Which other Pure businesses doesn’t he own?
Why?
These are important to me
He wasn’t specifically asked how profitable or if he owned the business in the interview where he gave these answers
He chose to boast about the profitability and make the comment he doesn’t own the businesses
Clearly he must be correct... otherwise he’d look very daft to lie in one of his first interviews to and the fans wouldn’t be able to trust him.... but I’d like to understand which companies
When is that next Q&A?
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Post by frankslegs on Aug 31, 2019 18:55:16 GMT 1
All good points-I’ve just had another trawl through all his various Pure companies and to say it’s thin is understating it.Add them all up and he is minus net assets.As the main shareholder in my own business with a plus 1.5m balance sheet and undervalued freeholds I just don’t get it.Dean for sure knew this so we must all be missing something.
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Post by ball on Aug 31, 2019 20:22:32 GMT 1
Feel very unconvinced by everything at the club at the moment, however when Phil took over he was never gonna be able to immediately stop the rot and turn things around. That said the summer transfer window was a complete shambles, IF he is saving something because he didn’t trust jan he should of got rid after Southampton and we could of started fresh rather than now where we find ourself with only 1 point and a lot more questions than answers.
We’ve got a threadbare squad, a couple of injuries and we’re in big trouble.
We must get this next appointment right, if the rumours are true regarding Cowley then I believe that’s probably the best appointment we can make in current circumstances. Who knows if we get things turned around PH could end up being a chairman we back and believe in like DH
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 31, 2019 20:24:12 GMT 1
What bit do you find it implausable? that in year 1, our wage bill was £60m (it was in the accounts) Assuming it was similar in year 2, thats £120m + Or that roughly £100m was spent/ committed on wages, agents fees etc. Add in £5 m on stadium improvements and £20m on Canalside.what total have you got? Wage bill of £60m reduced by 40% still leaves a bill of 3 times what it was 3 years ago which will be coverered by year 1 parachute payments. All this was explained ......its not hard to understand. Absolutely madness to do it like we did. Norwich again, with webber again, are going to nail it. We need a proper director of football, who knows football and has a moneyball style of a plan. Somehow we managed to buy card factory players at Clinton's prices without even having anyone quality checking or making sure they were for the right occasion. We now have a van full of happy birth of your 10th child and congratulations on your hysterectomy cards that are useful once in a blue moon. Like it. Thats a good analogy and pretty spot on too. |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 31, 2019 20:27:05 GMT 1
All good points-I’ve just had another trawl through all his various Pure companies and to say it’s thin is understating it.Add them all up and he is minus net assets.As the main shareholder in my own business with a plus 1.5m balance sheet and undervalued freeholds I just don’t get it.Dean for sure knew this so we must all be missing something. You should have bought us then  |
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Post by loumacari on Aug 31, 2019 21:09:52 GMT 1
All good points-I’ve just had another trawl through all his various Pure companies and to say it’s thin is understating it.Add them all up and he is minus net assets.As the main shareholder in my own business with a plus 1.5m balance sheet and undervalued freeholds I just don’t get it.Dean for sure knew this so we must all be missing something. Can’t work it out myself either. My initial thought was that he might have other business interests but searching by his name reveals nothing either. And there’s no way he’d not want to be a director in a company in which he has a sizeable investment. |
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Post by brodie81 on Sept 1, 2019 3:46:12 GMT 1
The players are to blame.
The players we have are under performing.
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Post by Melc on Sept 1, 2019 7:03:50 GMT 1
The players are to blame. The players we have are under performing. [br The way it looks to me at the moment the whole club is under performing! What does Winter bring to the table? He disappears when the shit hits the fan. The whole coaching team just seem stuck in a time warp, insisting the same style of football that has seen us struggle for three seasons to score goals is STILL going to work? Yes the players have to take more responsibility, but it is plain to see they just don’t believe in what they are being coached. This is all frustrating as hell, but leadership has to start from the top and fast. |
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