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Post by basil on Sept 1, 2019 9:59:24 GMT 1
I hope that it's Wolf. He's not a PE teacher. He's had significant success at two biggish German clubs in their 2nd division. Though young, his experience is at a higher level than that of Cowley. I think that he should be judged for what he is and not have Wagner and Jan hung round his neck.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 2, 2019 15:45:19 GMT 1
Van Bronckhorst? Whoever thinks that one is likely has probably been sniffing some particularly good glue.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 2, 2019 15:49:59 GMT 1
Van Bronckhorst? Whoever thinks that one is likely has probably been sniffing some particularly good glue. just thinners
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Post by basil on Sept 2, 2019 17:13:00 GMT 1
Anyone have any idea who the overseas interviewees were?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 2, 2019 17:15:11 GMT 1
I suspect the Cowley's are not in the running, there has been no noise on it, no disgruntled Lincoln fans coming on here, no nothing, so I suspect no contact has been made with Lincoln. Even if we did make contact what on earth would possess them to come? The two clubs could swap places next season. They are on the verge of getting the freedom of the City of Lincoln and guiding a provincial obscure club to the Champonship from the conference. Other than a big salary increase why would Cowley come? He's far better staying where he is for his own career. Look at Nathan Jones at Stoke.... "other than a big salary increase" You've answered your own question there
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Post by dugnet on Sept 2, 2019 17:26:31 GMT 1
Other than a big salary increase why would Cowley come? He's far better staying where he is for his own career. Look at Nathan Jones at Stoke.... "other than a big salary increase" You've answered your own question there Ahhh indeed, but as PH said to Dean "money isn't everything you know..."
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Post by Spike24 on Sept 2, 2019 17:35:08 GMT 1
Apart from 10 years at Everton...... Allardyce did 7 years at bolton, and turned into a journeyman. Pulis 6 years at stoke. What's your point?
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Post by detox on Sept 2, 2019 17:40:09 GMT 1
Allardyce did 7 years at bolton, and turned into a journeyman. Pulis 6 years at stoke. What's your point? "Fuck Moyes, theres a reason why his tenures are short lived.."
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Post by Spike24 on Sept 2, 2019 17:48:20 GMT 1
Allardyce did 7 years at bolton, and turned into a journeyman. Pulis 6 years at stoke. What's your point? "Fuck Moyes, theres a reason why his tenures are short lived.." He built his reputation at Preston and Everton. Theres a reason now why his tenures are short lived. I'll write a fkkn biography next time, you got my gist.
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Post by alex on Sept 2, 2019 21:06:39 GMT 1
Don't get the hate for Moyes, given where we are atm it would be a massive coup, (we are very shit you know)
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Post by deadleg on Sept 2, 2019 21:23:47 GMT 1
Van Bronckhorst? Whoever thinks that one is likely has probably been sniffing some particularly good glue. The question's not 'who do you think is likely', it's 'who would you have'. I doubt anyone who voted for him thinks it'll happen! Case in point, I said I'd voted for him but that there wasn't a chance in hell
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Post by Ninastian on Sept 2, 2019 23:42:33 GMT 1
It says van Bronckhorst, not Mourinho.
Don't see why van Bronckhorst is any bigger deal than someone like Hannes Wolf. In fact I'd say Wolf has managed at a higher level.
I'm not saying he is likely or anything, I'm just saying you hardly need to have solvent induced brain damage to put a manager who has never managed outside the Eredivisie in the mix for a low end Championship job.
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Post by deadleg on Sept 3, 2019 0:07:42 GMT 1
Being a relatively young coach who's won the Eredivisie and Dutch cup (twice) would probably put him in the 'unlikely' bracket on its own.
It's the 100+ international caps and a career spent playing for some of the biggest clubs in Europe that pushes it to 'incredibly unlikely'.
Who knows though, maybe Dean Gorre's been bigging us up to him for years and it's actually his dream job.
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 3, 2019 8:41:19 GMT 1
I'm going to confidently state that van Bronckhorst's next job will be at a club with a far, far higher profile than our own. Might as well have said Mourinho. It's about as likely.
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Post by Ninastian on Sept 3, 2019 14:03:44 GMT 1
I didn't say he was likely. I just said the Eredivisie is shite. I'm going to confidently state that van Bronckhorst's next job will be at a club with a far, far higher profile than our own. What division do you think that club will be in?
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Post by terriertim on Sept 3, 2019 16:28:23 GMT 1
I didn't say he was likely. I just said the Eredivisie is shite. I'm going to confidently state that van Bronckhorst's next job will be at a club with a far, far higher profile than our own. What division do you think that club will be in? Cream of Sum Yeung Guy Leage - China on a million quid a week
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Post by Tinpot on Sept 3, 2019 17:21:52 GMT 1
I didn't say he was likely. I just said the Eredivisie is shite. I'm going to confidently state that van Bronckhorst's next job will be at a club with a far, far higher profile than our own. What division do you think that club will be in? Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A....
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Sept 3, 2019 17:24:19 GMT 1
Anybody that looks good in a tracksuit.
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Post by Hank Hill on Sept 3, 2019 17:26:03 GMT 1
Stendels become the favourite on Sky bet.
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Post by Galpharmer on Sept 3, 2019 17:31:53 GMT 1
Not sure anybody needs to be a front runner. The time it's taking suggests that even the favourite option doesn't need to so much as break into a slow trot. We've a squad full of unfit players who don't give a rats arse and don't know what the plan is. Leaving them with Hudson who was part of the demise is hardly the brightest idea. Get somebody in that will make them earn their money please Potless. Now.
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Post by Ninastian on Sept 3, 2019 18:04:38 GMT 1
I didn't say he was likely. I just said the Eredivisie is shite. What division do you think that club will be in? Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A.... OK, fair enough. I thought you were just hedging your bets by saying a higher profile than Huddersfield, so you could still be right if he ended up at Nottingham Forest or Rangers. I think it would be a gamble for a club in those divisions you mentioned. Steve McClaren, Frank De Boer and Phillip Cocu (jury's out) all won the Eredivisie. The latter two multiple times. It's not been a reliable proving ground for top managers in recent years.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 3, 2019 18:07:48 GMT 1
Stendels become the favourite on Sky bet. throwing your money away
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 3, 2019 18:23:42 GMT 1
Being a relatively young coach who's won the Eredivisie and Dutch cup (twice) would probably put him in the 'unlikely' bracket on its own. It's the 100+ international caps and a career spent playing for some of the biggest clubs in Europe that pushes it to 'incredibly unlikely'. Who knows though, maybe Dean Gorre's been bigging us up to him for years and it's actually his dream job. Doesn't always work like that for top players laden with caps. Scholes at oldham,. campbell at macclesfield. Ince at Macclesfield then MK dons. Edgar Davids at Barnet... there plenty when you think about it. Eredivisie to Championship is probably a step up. Can't see it though.
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Post by deadleg on Sept 3, 2019 18:38:34 GMT 1
None of them had already done a good job in management somewhere though. It's the two things in combination.
Scholes didn't get a solid grounding in coaching after retirement as far as I know and Oldham were his boyhood team so that's a bit of a special case. Campbell was well known to be a bit of a strange character so was never likely to walk into a job high up the leagues. The other two are better examples but GVB's stock as a manager is still a hell of a lot higher than either having already achieved something after playing.
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Post by basil on Sept 4, 2019 16:35:51 GMT 1
There's an Adkins thread that seems to accept in a resigned sort of way that he is to be the chosen one. Is there anything at all to back this up or is it simply a case of him being the only one left?
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Post by townatheart on Sept 4, 2019 16:39:30 GMT 1
There's an Adkins thread that seems to accept in a resigned sort of way that he is to be the chosen one. Is there anything at all to back this up or is it simply a case of him being the only one left? While not the only one, probably the most likely, and the one that would be at least more acceptable to the majority, though clearly not all, of the DATM gang. So likely more hope than anything else at this point. Not ITK at all myself, so just waiting to see what transpires.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Sept 4, 2019 16:46:30 GMT 1
Three managers including one caretaker have failed miserably to do anything with these present ongoing failures ,and that is made even worse when funds dont seem to be available.
I feel failings are far more to do with the players than managers past and present
What on earth could an incoming manager do with the retained players that top man Wagner failed to do
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 17:02:07 GMT 1
Three managers including one caretaker have failed miserably to do anything with these present ongoing failures ,and that is made even worse when funds dont seem to be available. I feel failings are far more to do with the players than managers past and present What on earth could an incoming manager do with the retained players that top man Wagner failed to do Change their mindset for a start. We have a pretty decent bunch of players overall, they are to a man underperforming knowing what they are capable of. Schindler and Hogg are way off their best. Pritchard is a shadow of the player from Norwich. Mounie was second top scorer behind MBappe in Ligue1. There is talent there to work with.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 17:08:00 GMT 1
There's an Adkins thread that seems to accept in a resigned sort of way that he is to be the chosen one. Is there anything at all to back this up or is it simply a case of him being the only one left? Who knows, Adkins could be going to Lincoln when the Cowleys go to Wednesday.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 4, 2019 17:20:10 GMT 1
Three managers including one caretaker have failed miserably to do anything with these present ongoing failures ,and that is made even worse when funds dont seem to be available. I feel failings are far more to do with the players than managers past and present What on earth could an incoming manager do with the retained players that top man Wagner failed to do Its a very very tough job imo, club seems in a massive mess.
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