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Post by ambryboy on Dec 15, 2019 9:51:22 GMT 1
We should re sign Josh Windass a natural goal scorer Is that 2 for the season? Hardly the hallmark of a natural goal scorer.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 15, 2019 9:54:33 GMT 1
Please list the positives because I am a little stupid. Halfway through the season a former Prem team is just one win above relegation to the 3rd level. A staggeringly awful fall from grace. We just got a point by the skin of our teeth at a bankrupt club who are not only destined for relegation but are clearly one of the worst teams ever to grace this league. We don't score, we don't win, we don't dominate and we have zero players who will carve out a top level career or even be remembered in 10 years. Its not entertaining, its generally negative play, it is frankly hideous. 6 wins in 48....those numbers cannot be polished. So you ask me to list the positives and then spout a load more negatives? We have acted on the bad situation and employed a management team that is getting better results. Almost instantly. The management team are sorting the squad out, and we know the plan is that won't happen overnight. 3 windows. The stated aim for this season is to stay up. That has been said repeatedly. That is now much more likely than it was after 7 games into the season. So, the numbers can be polished. Our recent results are infinitely better than the 80% that went before. It may not be the most entertaining, but we are doing what needs to be done. Into the bargain, our shot count has gone up, our goals scored has gone up, and the defence is generally far more resilient. I'm pretty sure that no-one involved in the club over the past couple of years has done any damage wilfully. Given we had not occupied the rarified air of the top tier for nearly 50 years, then it is understandable that a lot involved would have had to learn as they were going. No-one has the ability to go back in time and change any of that. But it can be learned from. I'm sure it would be very different if we ever had that opportunity again. At the moment we have the confluence of a lot of injuries and a few bad eggs who the management team (and I agree with this) won't have anywhere near the squad due to their negative influence. Given the past cannot be changed, what do you realistically expect? Strong management team with the right ethos and skills? Done. New Players? January, summer, next January. Get rid of the crap we signed? Happening. A fit, healthy, functioning chairman? Done. New Chief exec? Happening soon. Better results? In case you hadn't noticed, we've been getting them. But hey, it's good to have a good moan and undermine a hard-working, intelligent, ambitious management team by your negativity surrounding things that are either a) historic, or b) will take time to change. You seem to get more than your fair share of attention on here, and it's disappointing that some fans might read your constantly negative comments and start to look at things in the same way. If you don't like it, don't involve yourself......and I'd hazard a guess the Cowleys wouldn't want you anywhere near the stands, given your attitude. We can all moan occasionally in frustration, but you're different - it's any excuse and it's constant. And it's tedious. 1. Better results? Which ones? Where? Putting a pet tortoise in charge after Siewart would have improved results. Randomness at play Stanny. I don't really see better results. I certainly don't see improved performances or skill. Two wins and a draw against the bottom 3 and a 3-0 win v Hull who could actually have won the game. Piss poor. As soon as we play anyone at all its over. If one win in 7 with an injury time goal v the worst team in the league is improvement I repeat...you are easily pleased. 2. I support the Cowleys but "strong management team" still remains to be seen. Hope you are right but I see odd substitutions, negative formations, players out of position, poor set plays. All I have seen so far is a little more organisation and a few of the younger lads grabbing a chance. Did not see anyone busting a gut for the Cowleys yesterday...Wigan fought harder and that's worrying. 3. Chairman? Always had big boots to follow but the silence is deafening. Still no full explanation about the finances. How is it a positive? 4. Let me tell you what is tedious...78 goals in 2 years and 8 months...107 matches. Surely the lowest ever recorded by a top level team in such a period. Also tedious is setting up to draw and negate. How about some entertainment? Also tedious was going to 35 matches straight without seeing a win, doubly tedious when you factor in i took two flights for about 30 of them. I cheered them on yesterday but its so hard when you waste a full day, spend £150, freeze your nads off and then have to watch bang-average pampered footballers take home £50k a week for, pardon my French, fuck all!
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Dec 15, 2019 9:59:29 GMT 1
Won 5, drawn 5, lost 5 is infinitely better than the previous manager’s ‘played 19, won 1’ figure.
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Post by Art Vandelay on Dec 15, 2019 10:01:30 GMT 1
So you ask me to list the positives and then spout a load more negatives? We have acted on the bad situation and employed a management team that is getting better results. Almost instantly. The management team are sorting the squad out, and we know the plan is that won't happen overnight. 3 windows. The stated aim for this season is to stay up. That has been said repeatedly. That is now much more likely than it was after 7 games into the season. So, the numbers can be polished. Our recent results are infinitely better than the 80% that went before. It may not be the most entertaining, but we are doing what needs to be done. Into the bargain, our shot count has gone up, our goals scored has gone up, and the defence is generally far more resilient. I'm pretty sure that no-one involved in the club over the past couple of years has done any damage wilfully. Given we had not occupied the rarified air of the top tier for nearly 50 years, then it is understandable that a lot involved would have had to learn as they were going. No-one has the ability to go back in time and change any of that. But it can be learned from. I'm sure it would be very different if we ever had that opportunity again. At the moment we have the confluence of a lot of injuries and a few bad eggs who the management team (and I agree with this) won't have anywhere near the squad due to their negative influence. Given the past cannot be changed, what do you realistically expect? Strong management team with the right ethos and skills? Done. New Players? January, summer, next January. Get rid of the crap we signed? Happening. A fit, healthy, functioning chairman? Done. New Chief exec? Happening soon. Better results? In case you hadn't noticed, we've been getting them. But hey, it's good to have a good moan and undermine a hard-working, intelligent, ambitious management team by your negativity surrounding things that are either a) historic, or b) will take time to change. You seem to get more than your fair share of attention on here, and it's disappointing that some fans might read your constantly negative comments and start to look at things in the same way. If you don't like it, don't involve yourself......and I'd hazard a guess the Cowleys wouldn't want you anywhere near the stands, given your attitude. We can all moan occasionally in frustration, but you're different - it's any excuse and it's constant. And it's tedious. 1. Better results? Which ones? Where? Putting a pet tortoise in charge after Siewart would have improved results. Randomness at play Stanny. I don't really see better results. I certainly don't see improved performances or skill. Two wins and a draw against the bottom 3 and a 3-0 win v Hull who could actually have won the game. Piss poor. As soon as we play anyone at all its over. If one win in 7 with an injury time goal v the worst team in the league is improvement I repeat...you are easily pleased. 2. I support the Cowleys but "strong management team" still remains to be seen. Hope you are right but I see odd substitutions, negative formations, players out of position, poor set plays. All I have seen so far is a little more organisation and a few of the younger lads grabbing a chance. Did not see anyone busting a gut for the Cowleys yesterday...Wigan fought harder and that's worrying. 3. Chairman? Always had big boots to follow but the silence is deafening. Still no full explanation about the finances. How is it a positive? 4. Let me tell you what is tedious...78 goals in 2 years and 8 months...107 matches. Surely the lowest ever recorded by a top level team in such a period. Also tedious is setting up to draw and negate. How about some entertainment? Also tedious was going to 35 matches straight without seeing a win, doubly tedious when you factor in i took two flights for about 30 of them. I cheered them on yesterday but its so hard when you waste a full day, spend £150, freeze your nads off and then have to watch bang-average pampered footballers take home £50k a week for, pardon my French, fuck all! So much bollocks in this post but I’ll just point out we beat the team who are currently 4th away from home.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Dec 15, 2019 10:14:34 GMT 1
And yet the walk from the train station was only 20 minutes - you would have saved yourself 1 hour 10 minutes and you'd have been in the ground in plenty of time. I was in Revolution bar...the taxi did not turn up. If you can walk from the ground to the station in 20 minutes you are a better man than me because I pounded it back quickly and it took 41 minutes. Not well at the moment...every yard is hard. I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well
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Post by York Terrier on Dec 15, 2019 10:37:25 GMT 1
I was in Revolution bar...the taxi did not turn up. If you can walk from the ground to the station in 20 minutes you are a better man than me because I pounded it back quickly and it took 41 minutes. Not well at the moment...every yard is hard. I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well I can see both sides of the discussion here Yes we have improved ( but I was at Bristol) under the new managers, but the football is turgid and hard to watch. I agree we need to survive this season and hopefully there are 3 or 4 worse teams than us?.?. Overall I think we will survive I think the championship is a poor league this season but I do not believe we will mount any sort of challenge buying players from the lower leagues we need better quality than that.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 15, 2019 11:15:30 GMT 1
1. Better results? Which ones? Where? Putting a pet tortoise in charge after Siewart would have improved results. Randomness at play Stanny. I don't really see better results. I certainly don't see improved performances or skill. Two wins and a draw against the bottom 3 and a 3-0 win v Hull who could actually have won the game. Piss poor. As soon as we play anyone at all its over. If one win in 7 with an injury time goal v the worst team in the league is improvement I repeat...you are easily pleased. 2. I support the Cowleys but "strong management team" still remains to be seen. Hope you are right but I see odd substitutions, negative formations, players out of position, poor set plays. All I have seen so far is a little more organisation and a few of the younger lads grabbing a chance. Did not see anyone busting a gut for the Cowleys yesterday...Wigan fought harder and that's worrying. 3. Chairman? Always had big boots to follow but the silence is deafening. Still no full explanation about the finances. How is it a positive? 4. Let me tell you what is tedious...78 goals in 2 years and 8 months...107 matches. Surely the lowest ever recorded by a top level team in such a period. Also tedious is setting up to draw and negate. How about some entertainment? Also tedious was going to 35 matches straight without seeing a win, doubly tedious when you factor in i took two flights for about 30 of them. I cheered them on yesterday but its so hard when you waste a full day, spend £150, freeze your nads off and then have to watch bang-average pampered footballers take home £50k a week for, pardon my French, fuck all! So much bollocks in this post but I’ll just point out we beat the team who are currently 4th away from home. That would be Brentford who clearly should have won....OK 4th but just ne win above 11th....lets not get carried away...stopped clocks and all that. We will survive, we will win a few games but we wont shine or scare anyone.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 15, 2019 11:19:55 GMT 1
I was in Revolution bar...the taxi did not turn up. If you can walk from the ground to the station in 20 minutes you are a better man than me because I pounded it back quickly and it took 41 minutes. Not well at the moment...every yard is hard. I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well All falling in to place. We were sent in the wrong direction by an idiot steward and had to turn back after going 500 yards the wrong way. I had to get my bag from the Premier Inn...another 500 yards past the stations. Its 1.5 miles, it took 40 minutes as I got in the hotel 17.30 and got the 17.46 train. Its not conducive to going on foot in winter...there should be fleets of buses. A dark and grim walk. I hate out of town modern stadiums.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 15, 2019 11:23:55 GMT 1
I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well I can see both sides of the discussion here Yes we have improved ( but I was at Bristol) under the new managers, but the football is turgid and hard to watch. I agree we need to survive this season and hopefully there are 3 or 4 worse teams than us?.?. Overall I think we will survive I think the championship is a poor league this season but I do not believe we will mount any sort of challenge buying players from the lower leagues we need better quality than that. We probably need to buy both, proven quality but that costs and will they come? Mix it with some lower League potential, we need to get away from the disasterous transfer policy we've been pursuing over the last two years.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 11:51:18 GMT 1
I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well I can see both sides of the discussion here Yes we have improved ( but I was at Bristol) under the new managers, but the football is turgid and hard to watch. I agree we need to survive this season and hopefully there are 3 or 4 worse teams than us?.?. Overall I think we will survive I think the championship is a poor league this season but I do not believe we will mount any sort of challenge buying players from the lower leagues we need better quality than that. And what do people expect? These are the same players who were utterly rubbish last season and early this season. That he’s managed to get a discernible shape out of them and picked up a few points is a miracle...certain people will suggest reversion to mean, but had Jan still been in charge there’s no way we’d be in the position we’re in now where survival is entirely in our own hands. The subs made perfect sense yesterday, as did the half time formation change, so not sure what Otium is on about to be honest...when you’re having a bad day you don’t tend to see things in a good light I guess.
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Post by hypotenuse on Dec 15, 2019 12:05:16 GMT 1
Whatever the standard of football, there is one absolutely crucial element the the new management team have in place - every player now representing the team is busting a gut for the cause. That, at the moment, is the only thing that matters.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 15, 2019 12:20:09 GMT 1
I was in Revolution bar...the taxi did not turn up. If you can walk from the ground to the station in 20 minutes you are a better man than me because I pounded it back quickly and it took 41 minutes. Not well at the moment...every yard is hard. I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well I never knew you were a woman. I wonder if there are anymore regular posters other than KSNE who are women? Not that it matters I hasten to add..
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Post by 28901 on Dec 15, 2019 12:21:28 GMT 1
I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well All falling in to place. We were sent in the wrong direction by an idiot steward and had to turn back after going 500 yards the wrong way. I had to get my bag from the Premier Inn...another 500 yards past the stations. Its 1.5 miles, it took 40 minutes as I got in the hotel 17.30 and got the 17.46 train. Its not conducive to going on foot in winter...there should be fleets of buses. A dark and grim walk. I hate out of town modern stadiums. I will agree with that last line
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Post by benhomly on Dec 15, 2019 12:26:42 GMT 1
So you ask me to list the positives and then spout a load more negatives? We have acted on the bad situation and employed a management team that is getting better results. Almost instantly. The management team are sorting the squad out, and we know the plan is that won't happen overnight. 3 windows. The stated aim for this season is to stay up. That has been said repeatedly. That is now much more likely than it was after 7 games into the season. So, the numbers can be polished. Our recent results are infinitely better than the 80% that went before. It may not be the most entertaining, but we are doing what needs to be done. Into the bargain, our shot count has gone up, our goals scored has gone up, and the defence is generally far more resilient. I'm pretty sure that no-one involved in the club over the past couple of years has done any damage wilfully. Given we had not occupied the rarified air of the top tier for nearly 50 years, then it is understandable that a lot involved would have had to learn as they were going. No-one has the ability to go back in time and change any of that. But it can be learned from. I'm sure it would be very different if we ever had that opportunity again. At the moment we have the confluence of a lot of injuries and a few bad eggs who the management team (and I agree with this) won't have anywhere near the squad due to their negative influence. Given the past cannot be changed, what do you realistically expect? Strong management team with the right ethos and skills? Done. New Players? January, summer, next January. Get rid of the crap we signed? Happening. A fit, healthy, functioning chairman? Done. New Chief exec? Happening soon. Better results? In case you hadn't noticed, we've been getting them. But hey, it's good to have a good moan and undermine a hard-working, intelligent, ambitious management team by your negativity surrounding things that are either a) historic, or b) will take time to change. You seem to get more than your fair share of attention on here, and it's disappointing that some fans might read your constantly negative comments and start to look at things in the same way. If you don't like it, don't involve yourself......and I'd hazard a guess the Cowleys wouldn't want you anywhere near the stands, given your attitude. We can all moan occasionally in frustration, but you're different - it's any excuse and it's constant. And it's tedious. 1. Better results? Which ones? Where? Putting a pet tortoise in charge after Siewart would have improved results. Randomness at play Stanny. I don't really see better results. I certainly don't see improved performances or skill. Two wins and a draw against the bottom 3 and a 3-0 win v Hull who could actually have won the game. Piss poor. As soon as we play anyone at all its over. If one win in 7 with an injury time goal v the worst team in the league is improvement I repeat...you are easily pleased. 2. I support the Cowleys but "strong management team" still remains to be seen. Hope you are right but I see odd substitutions, negative formations, players out of position, poor set plays. All I have seen so far is a little more organisation and a few of the younger lads grabbing a chance. Did not see anyone busting a gut for the Cowleys yesterday...Wigan fought harder and that's worrying. 3. Chairman? Always had big boots to follow but the silence is deafening. Still no full explanation about the finances. How is it a positive? 4. Let me tell you what is tedious...78 goals in 2 years and 8 months...107 matches. Surely the lowest ever recorded by a top level team in such a period. Also tedious is setting up to draw and negate. How about some entertainment? Also tedious was going to 35 matches straight without seeing a win, doubly tedious when you factor in i took two flights for about 30 of them. I cheered them on yesterday but its so hard when you waste a full day, spend £150, freeze your nads off and then have to watch bang-average pampered footballers take home £50k a week for, pardon my French, fuck all! Pardon my French as well Oti but why don’t you take your flights and entourage of non Town supporting friends and fuck off and support someone else. Your posts are about as tedious as the run of games under Siewort.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Dec 15, 2019 13:02:37 GMT 1
I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well All falling in to place. We were sent in the wrong direction by an idiot steward and had to turn back after going 500 yards the wrong way. I had to get my bag from the Premier Inn...another 500 yards past the stations. Its 1.5 miles, it took 40 minutes as I got in the hotel 17.30 and got the 17.46 train. Its not conducive to going on foot in winter...there should be fleets of buses. A dark and grim walk. I hate out of town modern stadiums. On behalf of ilsonterrier can I thank you for your apology, while you're on a roll care to put your Billing saga to bed ? As a matter of interest I went by car, parked for free in a side street within sight of the ground, left at the final whistle and was back home in Earlsheaton (approx 55 miles ) at 6.30pm.
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Post by yappledapple on Dec 15, 2019 13:02:39 GMT 1
I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well I never knew you were a woman.I wonder if there are anymore regular posters other than KSNE who are women? Not that it matters I hasten to add.. The choice of 'Female' underneath her avatar should have given you a little clue
I don't think it's a recent addition.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 15, 2019 13:30:10 GMT 1
I never knew you were a woman.I wonder if there are anymore regular posters other than KSNE who are women? Not that it matters I hasten to add.. The choice of 'Female' underneath her avatar should have given you a little clue I don't think it's a recent addition.
But only on a computer, it doesn't show if your on a phone
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 15, 2019 13:56:26 GMT 1
Last season and the start of this was singularly the worst period of my 50 plus years of supporting. Not just results wise, seen us lose a lot of games before. The mistakes throughout the club were endemic and some of the playing staff let themselves and us down very badly. Chelping about it now is pointless but feel free to bring it all up again if we dont learn from it. But ffs it took us 18 months plus to bollox it up so lets give them the same amount of time to recover the situation?? We have already in the last few years been successful without breaking the bank and remarkably unsuccessful after spending a relative(for us) fortune. Hope we get back to better signings and a better team and squad. We have been to the extremes in recent years of scoring/not scoring goals, promotion without scoring a goal in the play offs, endless, almost, unbeaten run ending in a kicking in the play off final, losing more in a row than ever in our history and being relegated embarrassingly badly. If we end up mid table this year it will be the first time for a while there may be some sanity at the end of a season. The huge ups and downs in a short time have proved too hard to deal with.
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Post by York Terrier on Dec 15, 2019 14:17:45 GMT 1
Last season and the start of this was singularly the worst period of my 50 plus years of supporting. Not just results wise, seen us lose a lot of games before. The mistakes throughout the club were endemic and some of the playing staff let themselves and us down very badly. Chelping about it now is pointless but feel free to bring it all up again if we dont learn from it. But ffs it took us 18 months plus to bollox it up so lets give them the same amount of time to recover the situation?? We have already in the last few years been successful without breaking the bank and remarkably unsuccessful after spending a relative(for us) fortune. Hope we get back to better signings and a better team and squad. We have been to the extremes in recent years of scoring/not scoring goals, promotion without scoring a goal in the play offs, endless, almost, unbeaten run ending in a kicking in the play off final, losing more in a row than ever in our history and being relegated embarrassingly badly. If we end up mid table this year it will be the first time for a while there may be some sanity at the end of a season. The huge ups and downs in a short time have proved too hard to deal with. The huge ups and downs were due solely to the terrible transfer dealings trying to buy untried talent to sell on and make a profit. To me this part of the club has not improved we buy players from the lower leagues and they are simply not good enough for the championship I understand the lad from Forest Green is being made available for transfer without playing a game.From memory we paid nothing for our summer acquisitions and the net result is we failed again in the transfer market. Grant is the exception and at £2m he looks a snip let’s hope we can buy real quality in January and get some momentum going for a good cup run and bring a bit of the feel good factor back to watching Town as at the moment it’s not there.
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Post by stanton1969 on Dec 15, 2019 14:46:29 GMT 1
So you ask me to list the positives and then spout a load more negatives? We have acted on the bad situation and employed a management team that is getting better results. Almost instantly. The management team are sorting the squad out, and we know the plan is that won't happen overnight. 3 windows. The stated aim for this season is to stay up. That has been said repeatedly. That is now much more likely than it was after 7 games into the season. So, the numbers can be polished. Our recent results are infinitely better than the 80% that went before. It may not be the most entertaining, but we are doing what needs to be done. Into the bargain, our shot count has gone up, our goals scored has gone up, and the defence is generally far more resilient. I'm pretty sure that no-one involved in the club over the past couple of years has done any damage wilfully. Given we had not occupied the rarified air of the top tier for nearly 50 years, then it is understandable that a lot involved would have had to learn as they were going. No-one has the ability to go back in time and change any of that. But it can be learned from. I'm sure it would be very different if we ever had that opportunity again. At the moment we have the confluence of a lot of injuries and a few bad eggs who the management team (and I agree with this) won't have anywhere near the squad due to their negative influence. Given the past cannot be changed, what do you realistically expect? Strong management team with the right ethos and skills? Done. New Players? January, summer, next January. Get rid of the crap we signed? Happening. A fit, healthy, functioning chairman? Done. New Chief exec? Happening soon. Better results? In case you hadn't noticed, we've been getting them. But hey, it's good to have a good moan and undermine a hard-working, intelligent, ambitious management team by your negativity surrounding things that are either a) historic, or b) will take time to change. You seem to get more than your fair share of attention on here, and it's disappointing that some fans might read your constantly negative comments and start to look at things in the same way. If you don't like it, don't involve yourself......and I'd hazard a guess the Cowleys wouldn't want you anywhere near the stands, given your attitude. We can all moan occasionally in frustration, but you're different - it's any excuse and it's constant. And it's tedious. 1. Better results? Which ones? Where? Putting a pet tortoise in charge after Siewart would have improved results. Randomness at play Stanny. I don't really see better results. I certainly don't see improved performances or skill. Two wins and a draw against the bottom 3 and a 3-0 win v Hull who could actually have won the game. Piss poor. As soon as we play anyone at all its over. If one win in 7 with an injury time goal v the worst team in the league is improvement I repeat...you are easily pleased. 2. I support the Cowleys but "strong management team" still remains to be seen. Hope you are right but I see odd substitutions, negative formations, players out of position, poor set plays. All I have seen so far is a little more organisation and a few of the younger lads grabbing a chance. Did not see anyone busting a gut for the Cowleys yesterday...Wigan fought harder and that's worrying. 3. Chairman? Always had big boots to follow but the silence is deafening. Still no full explanation about the finances. How is it a positive? 4. Let me tell you what is tedious...78 goals in 2 years and 8 months...107 matches. Surely the lowest ever recorded by a top level team in such a period. Also tedious is setting up to draw and negate. How about some entertainment? Also tedious was going to 35 matches straight without seeing a win, doubly tedious when you factor in i took two flights for about 30 of them. I cheered them on yesterday but its so hard when you waste a full day, spend £150, freeze your nads off and then have to watch bang-average pampered footballers take home £50k a week for, pardon my French, fuck all! I see I haven't managed to persuade you, then, despite the evidence and my fairly comprehensive response to your request. You carry on occupying your world and being negative. I don't see much point in this conversation, so I'm out.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Dec 15, 2019 14:55:44 GMT 1
I'm not a better man than you for more than one reason: 1. You're clearly better than any of us on here anyway. 2. I'm a woman! Finally, I've not been well either and 2 weeks ago I would have struggled as well, but we were on the station platform just before 5.15 last night. And judging by the hordes of people crushing onto the 5.23 to Manchester, plenty of others did it as well I never knew you were a woman. I wonder if there are anymore regular posters other than KSNE who are women? Not that it matters I hasten to add.. Glad you added that
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 15, 2019 15:05:17 GMT 1
Last season and the start of this was singularly the worst period of my 50 plus years of supporting. Not just results wise, seen us lose a lot of games before. The mistakes throughout the club were endemic and some of the playing staff let themselves and us down very badly. Chelping about it now is pointless but feel free to bring it all up again if we dont learn from it. But ffs it took us 18 months plus to bollox it up so lets give them the same amount of time to recover the situation?? We have already in the last few years been successful without breaking the bank and remarkably unsuccessful after spending a relative(for us) fortune. Hope we get back to better signings and a better team and squad. We have been to the extremes in recent years of scoring/not scoring goals, promotion without scoring a goal in the play offs, endless, almost, unbeaten run ending in a kicking in the play off final, losing more in a row than ever in our history and being relegated embarrassingly badly. If we end up mid table this year it will be the first time for a while there may be some sanity at the end of a season. The huge ups and downs in a short time have proved too hard to deal with. The huge ups and downs were due solely to the terrible transfer dealings trying to buy untried talent to sell on and make a profit. To me this part of the club has not improved we buy players from the lower leagues and they are simply not good enough for the championship I understand the lad from Forest Green is being made available for transfer without playing a game.From memory we paid nothing for our summer acquisitions and the net result is we failed again in the transfer market. Grant is the exception and at £2m he looks a snip let’s hope we can buy real quality in January and get some momentum going for a good cup run and bring a bit of the feel good factor back to watching Town as at the moment it’s not there. Few lads need a chance where we are not playing uphill. You can blame who you like for the players we brought in who simply gave up and took their bat home and unfortunately we have signed some right spineless fuckers recently but the blame is totally theirs. We needed some graft and bollox last season but it never materialised. Signing footballers is always fraught with danger simply because they are footballers and many feel entitled to work when they feel like it and take offence and their bat home as and when they please. Buying 'talent' or 'promise' is not a guarantee of anything.Often poor man management is an easy cop out for not really having any MEN to actually manage.? Last season and the start of this just magnified our lack of men to manage in steadily worsening circumstances. Get a few in that the new management actually know and trust and get a system of playing that suits the players we have and then see if we have learnt from the obvious mistakes made recently?
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 15, 2019 15:07:12 GMT 1
1. Better results? Which ones? Where? Putting a pet tortoise in charge after Siewart would have improved results. Randomness at play Stanny. I don't really see better results. I certainly don't see improved performances or skill. Two wins and a draw against the bottom 3 and a 3-0 win v Hull who could actually have won the game. Piss poor. As soon as we play anyone at all its over. If one win in 7 with an injury time goal v the worst team in the league is improvement I repeat...you are easily pleased. 2. I support the Cowleys but "strong management team" still remains to be seen. Hope you are right but I see odd substitutions, negative formations, players out of position, poor set plays. All I have seen so far is a little more organisation and a few of the younger lads grabbing a chance. Did not see anyone busting a gut for the Cowleys yesterday...Wigan fought harder and that's worrying. 3. Chairman? Always had big boots to follow but the silence is deafening. Still no full explanation about the finances. How is it a positive? 4. Let me tell you what is tedious...78 goals in 2 years and 8 months...107 matches. Surely the lowest ever recorded by a top level team in such a period. Also tedious is setting up to draw and negate. How about some entertainment? Also tedious was going to 35 matches straight without seeing a win, doubly tedious when you factor in i took two flights for about 30 of them. I cheered them on yesterday but its so hard when you waste a full day, spend £150, freeze your nads off and then have to watch bang-average pampered footballers take home £50k a week for, pardon my French, fuck all! Pardon my French as well Oti but why don’t you take your flights and entourage of non Town supporting friends and fuck off and support someone else. Your posts are about as tedious as the run of games under Siewort. I just wont be told all is rosy in the garden. Its supposed to be entertainment...and there is very little. You blue-tints on here are like the old lady who denies her dog bit the postie. The fans have been shafted and just keep accepting it. My support is equal to yours but I cant lie. Its been awful too long and the players are to blame.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Dec 15, 2019 15:10:21 GMT 1
All falling in to place. We were sent in the wrong direction by an idiot steward and had to turn back after going 500 yards the wrong way. I had to get my bag from the Premier Inn...another 500 yards past the stations. Its 1.5 miles, it took 40 minutes as I got in the hotel 17.30 and got the 17.46 train. Its not conducive to going on foot in winter...there should be fleets of buses. A dark and grim walk. I hate out of town modern stadiums. On behalf of ilsonterrier can I thank you for your apology, while you're on a roll care to put your Billing saga to bed ? As a matter of interest I went by car, parked for free in a side street within sight of the ground, left at the final whistle and was back home in Earlsheaton (approx 55 miles ) at 6.30pm. I watched the Bournemouth highlights this morning..only highlights but Billing did not have a solitary touch and was caught ball-watching half a dozen times.
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Post by 28901 on Dec 15, 2019 15:17:15 GMT 1
I never knew you were a woman.I wonder if there are anymore regular posters other than KSNE who are women? Not that it matters I hasten to add.. The choice of 'Female' underneath her avatar should have given you a little clue
I don't think it's a recent addition.
Not on my phone it doesn't.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 15, 2019 15:26:15 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights, what a great run by Flo, to overlap Granty and take a defender away, for the goal
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Post by Headless Chicken on Dec 15, 2019 15:46:42 GMT 1
Flo's stepped up to be fair to him. Nothing outstanding; but notably improved, no lack of effort and been adaptable.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Dec 15, 2019 15:49:23 GMT 1
Flo's stepped up to be fair to him. Nothing outstanding; but notably improved, no lack of effort and been adaptable. More evidence of the Cowley's influence. He couldn't even defend in his natural position before they arrived.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Dec 15, 2019 15:52:36 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights, what a great run by Flo, to overlap Granty and take a defender away, for the goal Yep, gave away a daft goal, tried to gift them another but came back to almost win the game. We did not fall apart and we got a point at the same ground and against arguably a stronger team than the league leaders who got a point there days before?? It's an odd and difficult division, not least proved by us getting promotion in the way we did and by results on a weekly basis defying the odds. See Cardiff/barnsley yesterday for details. Be a few odd results over x mas as well.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Dec 15, 2019 16:09:46 GMT 1
On behalf of ilsonterrier can I thank you for your apology, while you're on a roll care to put your Billing saga to bed ? As a matter of interest I went by car, parked for free in a side street within sight of the ground, left at the final whistle and was back home in Earlsheaton (approx 55 miles ) at 6.30pm. I watched the Bournemouth highlights this morning..only highlights but Billing did not have a solitary touch and was caught ball-watching half a dozen times. Don't know if that's true or not because since we got relegated from the PL I've stopped watching Match of the Day, highlights for FL teams I understand can be seen on Quest on Freeview, for Conference teams such as Eastleigh unless they're involved in an FA Cup tie I don't know how you'd catch them.
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