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Post by benhomly on Jun 29, 2020 10:12:55 GMT 1
Do you think the club has the faintest idea of a plan? I’m angry enough with the club as it is. If they panic now and sack the Cowleys then the club truly will deserve all the ridicule and abuse it will get, and the last bit of faith and goodwill to Hodgkinson will be gone. At least from me. I am as reasonable as they come and pretty measured but I can't disagree with what you say. It would be the ultimate confirmation that we are run by amateurs (and I sadly include DH in that) and utterly clueless. I think the Cowleys have been given a far worse hand than we realised and have done well to give us a chance of survival. Unless there is complete unrest behind the scenes, or some other back story (i.e. they are already planning to leave) I see absolutely no sense in getting rid of them now. I would have faith if they had the chance to build their own squad they would be successful. Let's hope this is idle speculation, although I am afraid to say nothing surprises me about our club these days. As for the fans the underlying culture of "they've had a great ride, they didn't really expect" needs eradicating. It's as patronising as it is pitiful.
100% agree with this. The usual suspects on here drag this one out every time someone dares to complain at our previous owner/current regime like they're untouchable (especially DH). The one that annoys me most is 'well have you got £50m to put in?' It's pathetic; if I had £350m to spare I certainly wouldn't buy Town with it as my ego isn't big enough. Going to watch Town to me is all about meeting up with my mates either for a couple of hours for a home game or anything from a few hours/couple of days for away games so for that reason alone I will most likely continue. If I only went with family or on my own I would have given up years ago and found other things to do with the family.
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Post by clayts on Jun 29, 2020 10:13:08 GMT 1
Would anyone be surprised if Hodgkinson sacked them and appointed himself as caretaker boss? He's got the monogrammed training kit already.If anything would represent our demise from Premier League club to 100% clown shoes club it would be that 😁😁😁 Wouldn't surprise me with that bellend.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 10:16:33 GMT 1
If we get relegated then we will need someone in with a good record in lower divisions. Like the Cowleys. Unless there is something untoward behind the scenes they should be safe until September, regardless of which division we are in at the time. FLW is a bullshit speculation page. I wouldn't take much notice of it. It's worse than that. FLW are quoting Football Insider. The Cowleys story was written by a guy called Wayne Veysey. A look back at his articles show he's a true churnalist - he bangs out about a dozen articles a day, three of which are about an impending managerial sacking. Why? Because shit like that gets the clicks. And their revenue model is entirely based on clicks.
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Post by ben1987 on Jun 29, 2020 10:18:32 GMT 1
Nobody is getting sacked, move on.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 10:21:11 GMT 1
This thread has essentially been set up to wind people up and provoke a reaction, as if anybody is going to respond to a thread like that. Ohhh!
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Post by Maynardblue on Jun 29, 2020 10:21:44 GMT 1
Cowleys going nowhere
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Post by sandgrounder on Jun 29, 2020 10:22:53 GMT 1
I can imagine the Danny Simpson situation has strained relationships.
People underestimate the Cowleys and how big time they are, even compared to Big Time Phil, so they won’t hang around if it isn’t enhancing their CV and career pathway. Huddersfield was and is a stepping stone and so relegation wasn’t in the plan and even they will have been shocked at the mess they have walked Into.
Change now would be fruitless unless as other than Big Sam nobody else I could see keeping us up and he is on record as saying he wouldn’t go near the job.
My gut sense is we are the team where the rot has set in and we are going down in free fall. All the alarm bells have been there for all to see from the start of the season. I can see them walking at the end of the season and laying blame at others doors and irreconcilable differences.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 10:22:54 GMT 1
This thread has essentially been set up to wind people up and provoke a reaction, as if anybody is going to respond to a thread like that. Ohhh! Informed and likeable Examiner football journalist uses Twitter to pacify Town fans. Hey, at least some things have changed for the better since the PL days!
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Post by dugnet on Jun 29, 2020 10:24:19 GMT 1
Good - best news since the return from lockdown.
Back to the, considerable, job in hand. As posted before I have faith in the Cowleys, get us out of this they have done a fantastic job. Fail and they are still worth persisting with.
Whatever happens players need to go and fresh blood is required.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 29, 2020 10:26:04 GMT 1
Informed and likeable Examiner football journalist uses Twitter to pacify Town fans. Hey, at least some things have changed for the better since the PL days! No idea why he's working at the Examiner, he's too good for it.
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Post by clayts on Jun 29, 2020 10:28:24 GMT 1
Informed and likeable Examiner football journalist uses Twitter to pacify Town fans. Hey, at least some things have changed for the better since the PL days! No idea why he's working at the Examiner, he's too good for it. 100 times better than that clown Blake Welton, nice guy too is Steve.
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Post by ben1987 on Jun 29, 2020 10:31:09 GMT 1
If we get relegated then we will need someone in with a good record in lower divisions. Like the Cowleys. Unless there is something untoward behind the scenes they should be safe until September, regardless of which division we are in at the time. FLW is a bullshit speculation page. I wouldn't take much notice of it. It's worse than that. FLW are quoting Football Insider. The Cowleys story was written by a guy called Wayne Veysey. A look back at his articles show he's a true churnalist - he bangs out about a dozen articles a day, three of which are about an impending managerial sacking. Why? Because shit like that gets the clicks. And their revenue model is entirely based on clicks. And then to make it worse, town fans begin to believe it and the club and Phil get slaughtered for it. We should be uniting together not pulling the club to pieces. Now is not the time.
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Post by rocky on Jun 29, 2020 10:41:41 GMT 1
This won't happen, but if we get relegated I can see them being sacked.. 2 wins from last 8, 7 points from 8 games...and tbh we've had some pretty poor performances...slthough individual errors have contributed massively to our decline. Mind you, Seiwert lost 8 in a row and managed just one win in 15 games and he was given the summer and 3 games this season before being sacked..so by comparison the Cowleys, with 11 wins and 8 draws are the 'dream ticket'... The problems though doesn't neccessarily lie with the managers, the club is still in chaos, we still have deadwood to deal with, and now we're skint broke too...having to play end of career players and youngsters.. not a brilliant mix at the moment. I think even if we stay up, which looks increasingly unlikely, I think the Cowleys will go..we were 23rd when they arrived and we're 22nd now..hardly progress is it ? I'm not DC's biggest fan, but you can't judge him on such a small sample. His overall record is 41 points from 33 games, equivalent to 57 points in a full season, which isn't bad considering all the shit. The shocking start to the season, coupled with the recent 3 game slump coinciding with virtually every single result since lockdown going against us is the problem. He can't do anything about the latter but he has sure as hell has to turn this bad mini run round and very quick. It looks like it could come down to us or Hull. Their run in is pretty tough so that's a crumb of comfort.
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Post by ambryboy on Jun 29, 2020 10:42:00 GMT 1
Informed and likeable Examiner football journalist uses Twitter to pacify Town fans. Hey, at least some things have changed for the better since the PL days! No idea why he's working at the Examiner, he's too good for it. His name would suggest that the Telegraph and Argus might be a better fit.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 29, 2020 10:43:51 GMT 1
This won't happen, but if we get relegated I can see them being sacked.. 2 wins from last 8, 7 points from 8 games...and tbh we've had some pretty poor performances...slthough individual errors have contributed massively to our decline. Mind you, Seiwert lost 8 in a row and managed just one win in 15 games and he was given the summer and 3 games this season before being sacked..so by comparison the Cowleys, with 11 wins and 8 draws are the 'dream ticket'... The problems though doesn't neccessarily lie with the managers, the club is still in chaos, we still have deadwood to deal with, and now we're skint broke too...having to play end of career players and youngsters.. not a brilliant mix at the moment. I think even if we stay up, which looks increasingly unlikely, I think the Cowleys will go..we were 23rd when they arrived and we're 22nd now..hardly progress is it ? I'm not DC's biggest fan, but you can't judge him on such a small sample. His overall record is 41 points from 33 games, equivalent to 57 points in a full season, which isn't bad considering all the shit. The shocking start to the season, coupled with the recent 3 game slump coinciding with virtually every single result since lockdown going against us is the problem. He can't do anything about the latter but he has sure as hell has to turn this bad mini run round and very quick. It looks like it could come down to us or Hull. Their run in is pretty tough so that's a crumb of comfort. Not looked at the run ins but the key I feel is how many games you have left against teams who have nothing to play for. Hopefully West Brom will be up by the time we play them as if so I see that as a pretty strong home win chance
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Post by ball on Jun 29, 2020 10:44:05 GMT 1
glad to hear it, would be suicide imo
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 29, 2020 10:48:29 GMT 1
No idea why he's working at the Examiner, he's too good for it. 100 times better than that clown Blake Welton, nice guy too is Steve. Jan Siewert is a better than Blake Welton.
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Post by rocky on Jun 29, 2020 10:51:17 GMT 1
I'm not DC's biggest fan, but you can't judge him on such a small sample. His overall record is 41 points from 33 games, equivalent to 57 points in a full season, which isn't bad considering all the shit. The shocking start to the season, coupled with the recent 3 game slump coinciding with virtually every single result since lockdown going against us is the problem. He can't do anything about the latter but he has sure as hell has to turn this bad mini run round and very quick. It looks like it could come down to us or Hull. Their run in is pretty tough so that's a crumb of comfort. Not looked at the run ins but the key I feel is how many games you have left against teams who have nothing to play for. Hopefully West Brom will be up by the time we play them as if so I see that as a pretty strong home win chance That's what I meant. Hull have Boro H, West Brom A, Bristol A, Millwall H, Wigan A, Luton H, Cardiff A. All of them have something to play for, though I know one or two might not have by the time it comes around.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 10:54:10 GMT 1
100 times better than that clown Blake Welton, nice guy too is Steve. Jan Siewert is a better than Blake Welton. The bastard offspring of Katie Hopkins and Tony Gubba, surely?
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 29, 2020 11:01:08 GMT 1
Jan Siewert is a better than Blake Welton. The bastard offspring of Katie Hopkins and Tony Gubba, surely? Harsh on Hopkins and Gubba.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 29, 2020 11:02:38 GMT 1
When I first saw this thread I thought the club were going to reveal that they had been tracking their replacement for the last 3 years. Obviously a rubbish story, apart from anything, there simply isn’t the time to make a change.
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Post by Galpharmer on Jun 29, 2020 11:13:58 GMT 1
If it's anything like usual it would take us over 4 weeks to replace them They won't be getting sacked - not now anyway Hodgkinson to take the team for the rest of the season. Make use of that top with his initials on.
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Post by Galpharmer on Jun 29, 2020 11:16:13 GMT 1
Would anyone be surprised if Hodgkinson sacked them and appointed himself as caretaker boss? He's got the monogrammed training kit already. If anything would represent our demise from Premier League club to 100% clown shoes club it would be that 😁😁😁 Just seen this after posting. Great minds and all that...
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Post by specialun on Jun 29, 2020 11:30:39 GMT 1
No way should they be sacked
As I said before the season started we have a poor squad which would do well to finish 16th. The squad is better than it was then, but still has huge flaws. Certainly no where near a top 6 squad as in chairman Phil’s mind (!!)
Their results match a low mid table team having picked up a team which had won 1 in 9 months...
A lot of improvement needed clearly, a clearer style etc
Phil wouldn’t be so daft as to sack them
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Post by digs on Jun 29, 2020 11:32:50 GMT 1
Didn't Cowley say hes learned a lot watching the Bundesliga on its return?.Surely he must only be watching Schalke
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jun 29, 2020 11:48:20 GMT 1
Sadly to many involved with the club over recent seasons seemed to have sucked it dry of funds , and sadly it is becoming alot clearer that most of the retained premier league players were vastly over rated and paid.
Imagine the finacial impact of relegation ,and doubt very much any of todays players would want to take a drop in wages to play at div 1 level
I have been following this wonderful club for far more years that most on here ,and have always come to the conclusion that a manager is only as good as his results
The players need to be taken back to basics on the training field , and bring in an experienced manager who knows what he is doing .
The one thing the club needs to do is take far more care of any remaining incoming funds as we dont want to go back to the dark days of early 2000
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Post by detox on Jun 29, 2020 11:51:09 GMT 1
This won't happen, but if we get relegated I can see them being sacked.. 2 wins from last 8, 7 points from 8 games...and tbh we've had some pretty poor performances...slthough individual errors have contributed massively to our decline. Mind you, Seiwert lost 8 in a row and managed just one win in 15 games and he was given the summer and 3 games this season before being sacked..so by comparison the Cowleys, with 11 wins and 8 draws are the 'dream ticket'... The problems though doesn't neccessarily lie with the managers, the club is still in chaos, we still have deadwood to deal with, and now we're skint broke too...having to play end of career players and youngsters.. not a brilliant mix at the moment. I think even if we stay up, which looks increasingly unlikely, I think the Cowleys will go..we were 23rd when they arrived and we're 22nd now..hardly progress is it ? I'm not DC's biggest fan, but you can't judge him on such a small sample. His overall record is 41 points from 33 games, equivalent to 57 points in a full season, which isn't bad considering all the shit. The shocking start to the season, coupled with the recent 3 game slump coinciding with virtually every single result since lockdown going against us is the problem. He can't do anything about the latter but he has sure as hell has to turn this bad mini run round and very quick. It looks like it could come down to us or Hull. Their run in is pretty tough so that's a crumb of comfort. I've not advocated they be sacked, just speculating on what others might do..the Wigan game was pivotal though, a must win game which would have seen us joint 17th with Charlton...to turn in the performance we did, with practically the whole team looking out of sorts has to be down the management. The one bit of good news at the moment though is that we're not cut adrift (yet)...3 more points we'd be up 5 places, as I said. There's 7 clubs in danger of ending up in the bottom 3 and it could come down to goal difference unfortunately for us.I suspect we'll need 52 points to stay up.based on the current form of our rivals.. so that's 3 wins from 7...the 'easiest' of whcuh is Luton (H), who have gone 5 without defeat..!!.. A win at Birmingham is crucial, then the next 4 games are where we'd be looking to get enough points to be already safe, because I don't fancy us against WBA or Millwall...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 11:58:55 GMT 1
I have more faith in the Cowley's than I do in any of our players, who are all mentally weak.
We've had multiple chances to pull away from the bottom three and every time that chance has presented itself the players have completely bottled that game.
They can't handle the pressure, the negativity is engrained in them and has spread to the January signings like a pandemic.
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Post by rastrick32 on Jun 29, 2020 11:59:19 GMT 1
Do you think the club has the faintest idea of a plan? I’m angry enough with the club as it is. If they panic now and sack the Cowleys then the club truly will deserve all the ridicule and abuse it will get, and the last bit of faith and goodwill to Hodgkinson will be gone. At least from me. This is exactly where I am.
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Post by rocky on Jun 29, 2020 11:59:36 GMT 1
I'm not DC's biggest fan, but you can't judge him on such a small sample. His overall record is 41 points from 33 games, equivalent to 57 points in a full season, which isn't bad considering all the shit. The shocking start to the season, coupled with the recent 3 game slump coinciding with virtually every single result since lockdown going against us is the problem. He can't do anything about the latter but he has sure as hell has to turn this bad mini run round and very quick. It looks like it could come down to us or Hull. Their run in is pretty tough so that's a crumb of comfort. I've not advocated they be sacked, just speculating on what others might do..the Wigan game was pivotal though, a must win game which would have seen us joint 17th with Charlton...to turn in the performance we did, with practically the whole team looking out of sorts has to be down the management. The one bit of good news at the moment though is that we're not cut adrift (yet)...3 more points we'd be up 5 places, as I said. There's 7 clubs in danger of ending up in the bottom 3 and it could come down to goal difference unfortunately for us.I suspect we'll need 52 points to stay up.based on the current form of our rivals.. so that's 3 wins from 7...the 'easiest' of whcuh is Luton (H), who have gone 5 without defeat..!!.. A win at Birmingham is crucial, then the next 4 games are where we'd be looking to get enough points to be already safe, because I don't fancy us against WBA or Millwall... Yeah, pretty much agree with most of that. Think 50 will be enough though and hopefully Millwall will be on the beach by the time we play them, maybe even WBA.
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