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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 1, 2020 20:18:06 GMT 1
Outrageously good business from Town if we actually end up getting £16m for him It's not good business if he is scoring shedloads, looking dangerous and is a thorn in the opposition defence week in week out??? It's good business..he did look like hed rather be serving in McDonalds or sitting in the stands, preferably somewhere else? If someone prefers to be elsewhere then a good deal is preferable to hoping he changes and performs much better.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 20:19:01 GMT 1
If anyone thinks the 16m will go anywhere but to DH and potless pockets then you're sadly wrong
we were told last summer we didn't need to sell; since then we sold 25m in Mooy, VLP, Billing, SObhi fees etc and only spent a couple of hundred thousand to plug the gaps.
This summer we have released 10-15 players and brought in 2.... yet still waiting for Flo, Sobhi, Diabenza to go before we can make a move??
It stinks; it's basic maths and how people still cant see that is beyond me
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Post by royrace on Sept 1, 2020 20:19:37 GMT 1
Bit chicken and egg eh, like so many before him he's not going to get consistent game time in his favourite position unless he delivers. Then again you might say he wont deliver consistently until he's given an extended run. It might help if he could stop doing idiotic things during games and occasionally strolling round like he's playing in Greenhead park with his mates. Intrigued to see what Carlos et al can get from him. What are these idiotic things he does ? Been watching games with your eyes closed again?! He’s a liability at times in most games he plays in. Also a game changer on his day. Hopefully he can bring consistency to his game.
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Post by terriers321 on Sept 1, 2020 20:21:55 GMT 1
Outrageously good business would depend on whether any of it goes towards replacing him or straight in to the Covid fund and to paying off Dean Hoyle Just can’t help yourself can you fella, always have to twist something positive in to something negative and a dig at the club. Everyone is in agreement that we’ve made some horrendous mistakes and poor decisions over the past few years, let’s move on. If we get £16m for Grant in the current climate, it’s good business by the club end of. That money will help in some way whatever it is. He isnt wrong though is he. That figure would be a great price but if it isnt reinvested into the playing squad it isnt good business.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 1, 2020 20:26:42 GMT 1
If anyone thinks the 16m will go anywhere but to DH and potless pockets then you're sadly wrong we were told last summer we didn't need to sell; since then we sold 25m in Mooy, VLP, Billing, SObhi fees etc and only spent a couple of hundred thousand to plug the gaps. This summer we have released 10-15 players and brought in 2.... yet still waiting for Flo, Sobhi, Diabenza to go before we can make a move?? It stinks; it's basic maths and how people still cant see that is beyond me Who the fuck is this guy 👆
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 1, 2020 20:28:57 GMT 1
Working out the right fee for Grant is a funny one. On paper he should be worth shedloads. 22, English, very good season numbers-wise last season, 4 in 13 in the prem for a side that was dead and buried and scared of attacking. Looking at 10 million for Toney last week, 20 million for Maupay last year, we should be getting more if fees were based off stats and precedents. But if we get 16 million for Grant we'll be laughing all the way to the bank. Twice as much as we got for Rhodes back in 2012, for half the player. Of course it'll be hard to replace his goals, but it's not going to the leave a gaping hole in the team like it did when other players have left for much less money. £5m + add ons for Toney
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 20:35:17 GMT 1
Just can’t help yourself can you fella, always have to twist something positive in to something negative and a dig at the club. Everyone is in agreement that we’ve made some horrendous mistakes and poor decisions over the past few years, let’s move on. If we get £16m for Grant in the current climate, it’s good business by the club end of. That money will help in some way whatever it is. The point is it would be ridiculous to sell him if it still doesnt put us in a position financially to be able to replace him adequately. Dont particularly rate him but where else are the goals going to come from you dont particularly rate him? he is not the finished article but 19 goals in a SEASON HIS A GOOD RETURN IN ANYONES BOOK.there isnt too many better in the championship thats for sure
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 20:38:17 GMT 1
Outrageously good business from Town if we actually end up getting £16m for him It's not good business if he is scoring shedloads, looking dangerous and is a thorn in the opposition defence week in week out??? It's good business..he did look like hed rather be serving in McDonalds or sitting in the stands, preferably somewhere else? If someone prefers to be elsewhere then a good deal is preferable to hoping he changes and performs much better. woudnt take mutch notice of thus latest rumour not saying he wont leave but certainly its just speculation
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 20:42:33 GMT 1
If anyone thinks the 16m will go anywhere but to DH and potless pockets then you're sadly wrong we were told last summer we didn't need to sell; since then we sold 25m in Mooy, VLP, Billing, SObhi fees etc and only spent a couple of hundred thousand to plug the gaps. This summer we have released 10-15 players and brought in 2.... yet still waiting for Flo, Sobhi, Diabenza to go before we can make a move?? It stinks; it's basic maths and how people still cant see that is beyond me Who the fuck is this guy 👆 like a lot on here he knows nowt just speculates o get attension
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 1, 2020 20:43:37 GMT 1
The point is it would be ridiculous to sell him if it still doesnt put us in a position financially to be able to replace him adequately. Dont particularly rate him but where else are the goals going to come from you dont particularly rate him? he is not the finished article but 19 goals in a SEASON HIS A GOOD RETURN IN ANYONES BOOK.there isnt too many better in the championship thats for sure In terms of technical ability there are plenty far better. His touch and general play is pretty poor by championship standards. Its exposed when he plays upfront. He is good at cutting in and getting shots away but it seemed that defences grew wise to that and he would just end up shuffling along the box before eventually having his shot blocked
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 1, 2020 20:52:06 GMT 1
If anyone thinks the 16m will go anywhere but to DH and potless pockets then you're sadly wrong we were told last summer we didn't need to sell; since then we sold 25m in Mooy, VLP, Billing, SObhi fees etc and only spent a couple of hundred thousand to plug the gaps. This summer we have released 10-15 players and brought in 2.... yet still waiting for Flo, Sobhi, Diabenza to go before we can make a move?? It stinks; it's basic maths and how people still cant see that is beyond me Potless2. Just stop it... now stop it! I've just come out of the saloon after a few too many whiskies and my trigger finger is saying squeeze!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 20:55:10 GMT 1
you dont particularly rate him? he is not the finished article but 19 goals in a SEASON HIS A GOOD RETURN IN ANYONES BOOK.there isnt too many better in the championship thats for sure In terms of technical ability there are plenty far better. His touch and general play is pretty poor by championship standards. Its exposed when he plays upfront. He is good at cutting in and getting shots away but it seemed that defences grew wise to that and he would just end up shuffling along the box before eventually having his shot blocked i M TALKING ABOUT GOALSCORING!THERE ARE NOT MANY BETTER AND THAT IS WHAT HE DOES
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Post by Melc on Sept 1, 2020 20:55:52 GMT 1
If anyone thinks the 16m will go anywhere but to DH and potless pockets then you're sadly wrong we were told last summer we didn't need to sell; since then we sold 25m in Mooy, VLP, Billing, SObhi fees etc and only spent a couple of hundred thousand to plug the gaps. This summer we have released 10-15 players and brought in 2.... yet still waiting for Flo, Sobhi, Diabenza to go before we can make a move?? It stinks; it's basic maths and how people still cant see that is beyond me Change the fucking record will you!
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 1, 2020 20:58:09 GMT 1
Grant for 16m when we paid 2m is great business. The only worrying part is that it will probably be used to pay Hoyle back and not be put back into the squad Based on what’s happened since we’ve sold the majority of our better why would anyone think the money would be used to buy players?! It’ll go the same way as the rest. Remember “We don’t need to sell anyone and they won’t be sold unless we get very good offers, if they are sold they will be replaced”. Forgive me if I don’t hold out much hope. We dont agree on too much, but here you are correct, an error by the club to make the statement. But what can the clubs say? fecking hell we are brassic, we haven't got 2 pennies to rub together. Please take our prize assets for free just get them off the payroll. I think we would have been ina worse place than we are now. Also how do you think the squad and potential new players would react?
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 1, 2020 20:59:13 GMT 1
If anyone thinks the 16m will go anywhere but to DH and potless pockets then you're sadly wrong we were told last summer we didn't need to sell; since then we sold 25m in Mooy, VLP, Billing, SObhi fees etc and only spent a couple of hundred thousand to plug the gaps. This summer we have released 10-15 players and brought in 2.... yet still waiting for Flo, Sobhi, Diabenza to go before we can make a move?? It stinks; it's basic maths and how people still cant see that is beyond me Who the fuck is this guy 👆 prize cock wobble?
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Post by ldotm on Sept 1, 2020 21:00:59 GMT 1
Just can’t help yourself can you fella, always have to twist something positive in to something negative and a dig at the club. Everyone is in agreement that we’ve made some horrendous mistakes and poor decisions over the past few years, let’s move on. If we get £16m for Grant in the current climate, it’s good business by the club end of. That money will help in some way whatever it is. He isnt wrong though is he. That figure would be a great price but if it isnt reinvested into the playing squad it isnt good business. So what’s the alternative? Keep an unhappy and unmotivated Grant and watch his price dwindle down when he doesn’t perform and his contract runs down. Yes, we all want the money to be reinvested which fans wouldn’t? But it’s not as straight forward as selling a player and reinvesting it all back into the playing squad. We’ve spent big on players and look how that has paid off? Selling Grant for an inflated price in a financial crisis is very good business, even if we don’t reinvest the majority of it into the playing squad. We will clearly be going for low fees and loans.
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 1, 2020 21:03:33 GMT 1
What are these idiotic things he does ? Been watching games with your eyes closed again?! He’s a liability at times in most games he plays in. Also a game changer on his day. Hopefully he can bring consistency to his game. He tries things, they don't always come off but I'd rather have him doing that than passing backwards all the time
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 1, 2020 21:07:32 GMT 1
If anyone thinks the 16m will go anywhere but to DH and potless pockets then you're sadly wrong we were told last summer we didn't need to sell; since then we sold 25m in Mooy, VLP, Billing, SObhi fees etc and only spent a couple of hundred thousand to plug the gaps. This summer we have released 10-15 players and brought in 2.... yet still waiting for Flo, Sobhi, Diabenza to go before we can make a move?? It stinks; it's basic maths and how people still cant see that is beyond me Potless2. Just stop it... now stop it! I've just come out of the saloon after a few too many whiskies and my trigger finger is saying squeeze! Just give it a squeeze
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 1, 2020 21:08:39 GMT 1
In terms of technical ability there are plenty far better. His touch and general play is pretty poor by championship standards. Its exposed when he plays upfront. He is good at cutting in and getting shots away but it seemed that defences grew wise to that and he would just end up shuffling along the box before eventually having his shot blocked i M TALKING ABOUT GOALSCORING!THERE ARE NOT MANY BETTER AND THAT IS WHAT HE DOES But defenders got wise to his one trick, that's why he only got 3 or 4 from open play after Xmas. Just like Rhodes, if he isn't scoring, it's like playing with 10 men.
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Post by bluesandtwos on Sept 1, 2020 21:08:51 GMT 1
If anyone thinks the 16m will go anywhere but to DH and potless pockets then you're sadly wrong we were told last summer we didn't need to sell; since then we sold 25m in Mooy, VLP, Billing, SObhi fees etc and only spent a couple of hundred thousand to plug the gaps. This summer we have released 10-15 players and brought in 2.... yet still waiting for Flo, Sobhi, Diabenza to go before we can make a move?? It stinks; it's basic maths and how people still cant see that is beyond me Potless2. Just stop it... now stop it! I've just come out of the saloon after a few too many whiskies and my trigger finger is saying squeeze! Go on Kenny - Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeze
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 1, 2020 21:28:45 GMT 1
i M TALKING ABOUT GOALSCORING!THERE ARE NOT MANY BETTER AND THAT IS WHAT HE DOES But defenders got wise to his one trick, that's why he only got 3 or 4 from open play after Xmas. Just like Rhodes, if he isn't scoring, it's like playing with 10 men. If he does not score then he is anonymous. A forward is no longer just a goalscorer. Cant remember his hard work and pressing or battling abilities getting a goal for someone else??? Too many games where he was invisible..
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Post by tobbyg on Sept 1, 2020 21:37:20 GMT 1
Who the fuck is this guy 👆 like a lot on here he knows nowt just speculates o get attension Bless you.
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 1, 2020 21:40:51 GMT 1
But defenders got wise to his one trick, that's why he only got 3 or 4 from open play after Xmas. Just like Rhodes, if he isn't scoring, it's like playing with 10 men. If he does not score then he is anonymous. A forward is no longer just a goalscorer. Cant remember his hard work and pressing or battling abilities getting a goal for someone else??? Too many games where he was invisible.. Who from Town's past, as an illustration, would meet your requirement then? Wells or Depoitre (first season) maybe?
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Post by football on Sept 1, 2020 21:59:22 GMT 1
If he does go for 16M on say a four year contract we would be getting 4M a year for each year of the contract and we will be paying tax of 3.2M on the first installment, that would leave 800,000 to invest.
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Post by terriers321 on Sept 1, 2020 21:59:22 GMT 1
He isnt wrong though is he. That figure would be a great price but if it isnt reinvested into the playing squad it isnt good business. So what’s the alternative? Keep an unhappy and unmotivated Grant and watch his price dwindle down when he doesn’t perform and his contract runs down. Yes, we all want the money to be reinvested which fans wouldn’t? But it’s not as straight forward as selling a player and reinvesting it all back into the playing squad. We’ve spent big on players and look how that has paid off? Selling Grant for an inflated price in a financial crisis is very good business, even if we don’t reinvest the majority of it into the playing squad. We will clearly be going for low fees and loans. And we will clearly go down without a goal scorer in the side. Which will then cost the club how much? Lets say he went for the price mentioned. Im not saying invest the whole fee but if the club wouldn't throw a couple of million into the playing squad or get another decent striker in then they deserve all the shit that will come with it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2020 22:05:20 GMT 1
I’d play Mounié instead of Grant every day of the week.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 1, 2020 22:05:51 GMT 1
If he does go for 16M on say a four year contract we would be getting 4M a year for each year of the contract and we will be paying tax of 3.2M on the first installment, that would leave 800,000 to invest. Why would we be paying 3.2 million tax?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 1, 2020 22:07:49 GMT 1
If he does go for 16M on say a four year contract we would be getting 4M a year for each year of the contract and we will be paying tax of 3.2M on the first installment, that would leave 800,000 to invest. Not really. If we buy a player we'd pay that over installments aswell. Are people really this thick?
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Post by basil on Sept 1, 2020 22:11:33 GMT 1
If he does go for 16M on say a four year contract we would be getting 4M a year for each year of the contract and we will be paying tax of 3.2M on the first installment, that would leave 800,000 to invest. Are those facts?!?! You're in the wrong place mate.
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Post by sykeylad on Sept 1, 2020 22:12:24 GMT 1
like a lot on here he knows nowt just speculates o get attension Bless you. Glad it's not just me, thinking the same. Not the sharpest knife in the draw.
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