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Post by townrwe on Oct 5, 2020 9:59:56 GMT 1
Dont think it would be a great loss to lose bacuna. When hes good he can be very good, but how often is that? Id say 90% of the time he's average to poor. If anything id say hes gone backwards since we signed him. If we sell grant and bacuna today..... who is going to score the goals? |
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Post by Melc on Oct 5, 2020 10:03:42 GMT 1
Dont think it would be a great loss to lose bacuna. When hes good he can be very good, but how often is that? Id say 90% of the time he's average to poor. If anything id say hes gone backwards since we signed him. If we sell grant and bacuna today..... who is going to score the goals? I would have thought with your so called 98% transfer news rate you would already know? Mmmm... |
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Post by crux on Oct 5, 2020 10:06:14 GMT 1
Dont think it would be a great loss to lose bacuna. When hes good he can be very good, but how often is that? Id say 90% of the time he's average to poor. If anything id say hes gone backwards since we signed him. If we sell grant and bacuna today..... who is going to score the goals? I'll bet you £1 we don't sell Grant today. |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Oct 5, 2020 10:09:21 GMT 1
I'd like to keep Bacuna for another season at least, even as an impact sub. Was it 4 goals in less than 90 played minutes at one point coming off the bench?
If a decent coach like Carlos (early days to perhaps call him that perhaps) can't get it out of him, then it would be best to move him on.
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Post by arry11 on Oct 5, 2020 10:09:33 GMT 1
Dont think it would be a great loss to lose bacuna. When hes good he can be very good, but how often is that? Id say 90% of the time he's average to poor. If anything id say hes gone backwards since we signed him. If we sell grant and bacuna today..... who is going to score the goals? Not going to alter one thing we are not going too score goals unless we change the attacking players and find a better system up front. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 5, 2020 10:14:49 GMT 1
I thought Bacuna could be the "bolter" under CC. The lads far more talented than most and I thought with a run in the side it could finally happen.
All he's done in every game so far though is piss me off. Still has no idea what to do and when to do it. Nothing has changed under another new manager, one in theory should suit him.
No qualms from me if he goes providing he's replaced.
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Post by townrwe on Oct 5, 2020 10:16:14 GMT 1
If we sell grant and bacuna today..... who is going to score the goals? I'll bet you £1 we don't sell Grant today. We loan out our only two goal threats..... that would be a town way to do it. |
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Post by alexdire on Oct 5, 2020 10:18:50 GMT 1
This is going to seem contradictory given how poor I think he has been but why on earth would we loan out a player thats in our starting 11 every week? Why on earth would anyone want to go and play in Scotland? A good run in the Europa League. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 5, 2020 10:20:06 GMT 1
This is going to seem contradictory given how poor I think he has been but why on earth would we loan out a player thats in our starting 11 every week? Why on earth would anyone want to go and play in Scotland? To look good in amongst a bunch of pub players? |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Oct 5, 2020 10:21:53 GMT 1
So what actually closes today? Just international trade? Can the Premier League still sign internally after today?
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Post by swollentoe on Oct 5, 2020 10:25:53 GMT 1
Transfer news: Done deals during October 2020 - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54375967It says between international and premier league clubs is today's deadline |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Oct 5, 2020 10:27:13 GMT 1
Transfer news: Done deals during October 2020 - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54375967It says between international and premier league clubs is today's deadline So the Grant deal to WBA can continue for another week or so... |
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Post by aca00js on Oct 5, 2020 10:27:47 GMT 1
Plus premier league can't do deals with other premier league teams
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Oct 5, 2020 10:27:48 GMT 1
Not to upset the apple cart, but Transfer Deadline Day is where one large thread is beneficial. Constantly moving back and forth between 4-5 is a tad annoying.
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Post by arry11 on Oct 5, 2020 10:29:35 GMT 1
So what actually closes today? Just international trade? Can the Premier League still sign internally after today? After the window closes today we will still have domestic trade between EPL and EFL but the EPL can not trade with each other. |
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Post by alexdire on Oct 5, 2020 10:31:25 GMT 1
Transfer news: Done deals during October 2020 - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/54375967It says between international and premier league clubs is today's deadline So the Grant deal to WBA can continue for another week or so... Unless WBA get one of their foreign targets. Then we have him until January. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 10:33:42 GMT 1
If you don't think we are going to sell Grant last day of the window and then say oh because of the rules we couldn't bring in a replacement from abroad then sorry to give you the wake up call but that's what happens when you have a chairman that's absolutely skint. Whether you blame him or not for the financial situation we find ourselves in (Hoyle selling him the club) is up to you but its the sad reality. Sorry to be negative but just pre warning people.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 5, 2020 10:35:36 GMT 1
If you don't think we are going to sell Grant last day of the window and then say oh because of the rules we couldn't bring in a replacement from abroad then sorry to give you the wake up call but that's what happens when you have a chairman that's absolutely skint. Whether you blame him or not for the financial situation we find ourselves in (Hoyle selling him the club) is up to you but its the sad reality. Sorry to be negative but just pre warning people. But it isn't, is it? All this hype - and there's still 11 days to go! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 10:40:31 GMT 1
If you don't think we are going to sell Grant last day of the window and then say oh because of the rules we couldn't bring in a replacement from abroad then sorry to give you the wake up call but that's what happens when you have a chairman that's absolutely skint. Whether you blame him or not for the financial situation we find ourselves in (Hoyle selling him the club) is up to you but its the sad reality. Sorry to be negative but just pre warning people. But it isn't, is it? All this hype - and there's still 11 days to go! Its the last day a player can be signed from abroad, you think we are going to pay English prices for English players (that would go against the whole new transfer policy Pipa etc) it would also mean clubs knowing we have the Grant money so charging us outrageous prices. |
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Post by crux on Oct 5, 2020 10:48:06 GMT 1
I'll bet you £1 we don't sell Grant today. We loan out our only two goal threats..... that would be a town way to do it. WBA have until 16th if they want to buy Grant. Today the window closes for International deals (including Scotland), plus Premier League to Premier League deals. Any deals within the EFL or between EFL and PL clubs can still be done until 16th October. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 5, 2020 10:48:10 GMT 1
But it isn't, is it? All this hype - and there's still 11 days to go! Its the last day a player can be signed from abroad, you think we are going to pay English prices for English players (that would go against the whole new transfer policy Pipa etc) it would also mean clubs knowing we have the Grant money so charging us outrageous prices. Our game is already swamped with average foreign players earning a king's ransom - and we should know that!! This 'Transfer Deadline Day' hype is all about the media's fixation with filling the Greedy League with foreign players. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 10:49:52 GMT 1
Its the last day a player can be signed from abroad, you think we are going to pay English prices for English players (that would go against the whole new transfer policy Pipa etc) it would also mean clubs knowing we have the Grant money so charging us outrageous prices. Our game is already swamped with average foreign players earning a king's ransom. This 'Transfer Deadline Day' hype is all about the media's fixation with filling the Greedy League with foreign players. I don't disagree with that but Eiting and Pipa have improved us already and so has Sarr even in the one game he's played, all signed for less than 2 million in total (guessing at loan fees on Eiting). 2 million in the UK would get us one young player from league 1. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 5, 2020 10:51:49 GMT 1
Our game is already swamped with average foreign players earning a king's ransom. This 'Transfer Deadline Day' hype is all about the media's fixation with filling the Greedy League with foreign players. I don't disagree with that but Eiting and Pipa have improved us already and so has Sarr even in the one game he's played, all signed for less than 2 million in total (guessing at loan fees on Eiting). 2 million in the UK would get us one young player from league 1. Fair point.  |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Oct 5, 2020 10:51:57 GMT 1
WB were told that if they wanted him it had to be done today to allow us chance to bring in.
I doubt that's changed.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Oct 5, 2020 10:52:15 GMT 1
This is going to seem contradictory given how poor I think he has been but why on earth would we loan out a player thats in our starting 11 every week? Why on earth would anyone want to go and play in Scotland? Nobody with an ounce of ambition would swap the Championship for the SPL and before anybody mentions playing in Europe, how far do these teams get in Europe? Not very. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 5, 2020 10:53:03 GMT 1
If you don't think we are going to sell Grant last day of the window and then say oh because of the rules we couldn't bring in a replacement from abroad then sorry to give you the wake up call but that's what happens when you have a chairman that's absolutely skint. Whether you blame him or not for the financial situation we find ourselves in (Hoyle selling him the club) is up to you but its the sad reality. Sorry to be negative but just pre warning people. That's my fear too, happened last season with Mooy, attackers desperately needed but IS the club still kidding itself that Koroma, Diakbenza, Pritchard, Ward, Campbell plus kids is enough? There's £30M 'worth' of talent there after all  They shouldn't be needing to wait for the Grant deal anyhow with the amount of players already out the door. I hope to be pleasantly surprised but as per last season who are all these q uality players just waiting for Town to decide what they're doing? |
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Post by bigtruck on Oct 5, 2020 10:53:37 GMT 1
I'd like to keep Bacuna for another season at least, even as an impact sub. Was it 4 goals in less than 90 played minutes at one point coming off the bench? If a decent coach like Carlos (early days to perhaps call him that perhaps) can't get it out of him, then it would be best to move him on. Absolutely this. Pisses me off that everyone seems to be giving Diakhaby, Mbenza & Pritchard the benefit of the doubt and “let Carlos improve them” yet when it comes to a player that has shown more than those 3 put together we’re happy to get rid. Totally ridiculous. Yes it might mean being an impact sub until CC has worked with him for a bit longer but there is no frickin way we should be getting rid of Bacuna. |
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Post by arry11 on Oct 5, 2020 11:03:17 GMT 1
I'd like to keep Bacuna for another season at least, even as an impact sub. Was it 4 goals in less than 90 played minutes at one point coming off the bench? If a decent coach like Carlos (early days to perhaps call him that perhaps) can't get it out of him, then it would be best to move him on. Absolutely this. Pisses me off that everyone seems to be giving Diakhaby, Mbenza & Pritchard the benefit of the doubt and “let Carlos improve them” yet when it comes to a player that has shown more than those 3 put together we’re happy to get rid. Totally ridiculous. Yes it might mean being an impact sub until CC has worked with him for a bit longer but there is no frickin way we should be getting rid of Bacuna. Think they all need moving on but it will be a slow process and it will be a case of taking good offers for any of them if they come in. |
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Post by Dan on Oct 5, 2020 11:04:52 GMT 1
I'd like to keep Bacuna for another season at least, even as an impact sub. Was it 4 goals in less than 90 played minutes at one point coming off the bench? If a decent coach like Carlos (early days to perhaps call him that perhaps) can't get it out of him, then it would be best to move him on. Absolutely this. Pisses me off that everyone seems to be giving Diakhaby, Mbenza & Pritchard the benefit of the doubt and “let Carlos improve them” yet when it comes to a player that has shown more than those 3 put together we’re happy to get rid. Totally ridiculous. Yes it might mean being an impact sub until CC has worked with him for a bit longer but there is no frickin way we should be getting rid of Bacuna. The difference is we're not exactly flooded with offers for Diakhaby, Mbenza and Pritchard! People are happy to give them a chance because we're stuck with them and have no choice. Not sure there's anyone that would want to keep them should a decent (any) offer come in. However if a decentish offer came for Bacuna I would get rid, just don't think it's going to happen for him here. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 5, 2020 11:05:21 GMT 1
What Arry said
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