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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 5, 2020 12:54:18 GMT 1
Based on the majority of his languid performances last season, for me he doesn't look the type that would particularly enjoy CC's style. We loaned him off benfica and that alone seems to make a difference. If we'd loaned him from crawley and hed given the same performances for us, i doubt anyone would be considering paying more than £200k for him |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 5, 2020 12:56:16 GMT 1
Once the mighty QPR came in for him with their financial clout and fan base what chance did we have? We are having to scrape by with the millions given in parachute money. At least we fought off Rotherham for Danny Ward. Very much doubt QPR have offered him any more than we could other than a London location You’d think QPR and Rotherham offering higher wages than a team just out of the Premier League would be very unlikely. |
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Post by arry11 on Oct 5, 2020 13:07:33 GMT 1
Very much doubt QPR have offered him any more than we could other than a London location You’d think QPR and Rotherham offering higher wages than a team just out of the Premier League would be very unlikely. Towns overall wage budget needs slashing bigtime so we will not compete with QPR who seem to be on the up. |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 5, 2020 13:26:26 GMT 1
You’d think QPR and Rotherham offering higher wages than a team just out of the Premier League would be very unlikely. Towns overall wage budget needs slashing bigtime so we will not compete with QPR who seem to be on the up. I don’t see Norwich, Swansea, Fulham, WBA, Bournemouth, Watford, Stoke or any other team relegated in the last 3 years competing with QPR for players and missing out. This isn’t a go at you, you’re totally right about Town and how it is but it shouldn’t be that way. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2020 13:31:18 GMT 1
Towns overall wage budget needs slashing bigtime so we will not compete with QPR who seem to be on the up. I don’t see Norwich, Swansea, Fulham, WBA, Bournemouth, Watford, Stoke or any other team relegated in the last 3 years competing with QPR for players and missing out. This isn’t a go at you, you’re totally right about Town and how it is but it shouldn’t be that way. So, what are QPR paying him? And assuming that we did actually offer him something, how much was it? |
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Post by Stiggy on Oct 5, 2020 13:34:51 GMT 1
QPR are under financial restraints. God knows how they can pay more than us.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Oct 5, 2020 13:39:02 GMT 1
I don't know why some folk are getting their knickers in a twist over us not signing a player that most of us agree only had 2 good games last season. He didn't play a single game whilst on loan at West Brom and has never played for Benfica's first team.
We can do much better (if we try)
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Post by benhomly on Oct 5, 2020 13:40:20 GMT 1
One of those players who'll turn up at the John Smiths in 5 or 6 years time and a few of us will have a vague recollection of him having played a few games for us at some time or another.
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Post by arry11 on Oct 5, 2020 13:42:58 GMT 1
Towns overall wage budget needs slashing bigtime so we will not compete with QPR who seem to be on the up. I don’t see Norwich, Swansea, Fulham, WBA, Bournemouth, Watford, Stoke or any other team relegated in the last 3 years competing with QPR for players and missing out. This isn’t a go at you, you’re totally right about Town and how it is but it shouldn’t be that way. Most of those clubs will compete with QPR far bigger budget than Town and the take over as not helped us one bit. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 5, 2020 13:52:10 GMT 1
QPR are under financial restraints. God knows how they can pay more than us. They have just sold Eze for £16.5m+ which gives them a little wiggle room to bring players in. We're still trying to offload Grant, Kongolo, Pritchard, etc, to help with our transfer budget. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 5, 2020 13:57:20 GMT 1
QPR are under financial restraints. God knows how they can pay more than us. They have just sold Eze for £16.5m+ which gives them a little wiggle room to bring players in. We're still trying to offload Grant, Kongolo, Pritchard, etc, to help with our transfer budget. Didn't we say that before we sold Mounie, Sobhi and Flo? |
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Post by cojones on Oct 5, 2020 14:08:39 GMT 1
Anyone think that this might just be so simple as the boy wants to live with his family in London?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 5, 2020 14:26:21 GMT 1
Ah well
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Post by sheps on Oct 5, 2020 14:27:20 GMT 1
Anyone think that this might just be so simple as the boy wants to live with his family in London? NO!!! How dare you use logic, we don’t like that on this forum, it’s plotless Phils fault, oh and Hoyles, oh and Sean Jarvis for leaving, and Boothys fault as well There is no possible other reason than we are skint |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 5, 2020 14:52:58 GMT 1
Is this the usual, "great/decent player" (if he signs for us) vs "glad he's gone elsewhere, bag of shite"  |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 5, 2020 14:54:23 GMT 1
Can’t compete with QPR on wages? Really? I believe the travelling to Leeds for a Wagamamas was also a sticking point... |
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Post by 4 pts on Oct 5, 2020 15:18:52 GMT 1
Is this the usual, "great/decent player" (if he signs for us) vs "glad he's gone elsewhere, bag of shite" Or maybe CC just doesn't like him and sees better value in someone else. |
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Post by huddersfc on Oct 5, 2020 20:17:17 GMT 1
They have just sold Eze for £16.5m+ which gives them a little wiggle room to bring players in. We're still trying to offload Grant, Kongolo, Pritchard, etc, to help with our transfer budget. Didn't we say that before we sold Mounie, Sobhi and Flo? Exactly, there is roughly around 10 million from those sales, plus a couple of big earners off the wage bill, and we have spent about 500k. At that rate if we somehow got 20 million more for a couple of those players, it would equate to another 1 million available to spend. Not to mention all the transfer money we received last season. But lets get rid of another 3, so we can buy 1 more player. The squad on Saturday shows we still need a minimum of 3 or 4 additions. We struggled for 96 minutes to break down Rotherham and scored with a fluke. It doesnt matter how good CC is as a coach when he has that squad available to him. If we dont find a couple of decent wingers and a striker we will be lucky to score 20 this season. |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 5, 2020 20:32:24 GMT 1
The ambition for the season is clear.
Don’t get relegated and do it as cheaply as we dare.
Might turn out to be a good long term plan and this time next year everyone might think Phil’s a magician.
But for this season, how depressing.
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Post by arry11 on Oct 5, 2020 20:40:35 GMT 1
The ambition for the season is clear. Don’t get relegated and do it as cheaply as we dare. Might turn out to be a good long term plan and this time next year everyone might think Phil’s a magician. But for this season, how depressing. Far too risky for me as we saw a few years back a big hit with injuries cost us bigtime. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 5, 2020 21:23:54 GMT 1
Not one single person said at the end of last season " we need to sign this guy". Not one. He had a couple of decent early games. Went totally anonymous. Then shone for half an hour against his old club. That's it
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Post by boooothy on Oct 5, 2020 21:38:40 GMT 1
Not one single person said at the end of last season " we need to sign this guy". Not one. He had a couple of decent early games. Went totally anonymous. Then shone for half an hour against his old club. That's it I thought it but to be fair my opinion isn’t based only on what i saw for Town. More what i was told from Arsenal but he was nowhere near the Benfica team so maybe the lad just lost his way and might drift into obscurity. For 750k i thought he was worth the risk. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 5, 2020 21:46:02 GMT 1
Not one single person said at the end of last season " we need to sign this guy". Not one. He had a couple of decent early games. Went totally anonymous. Then shone for half an hour against his old club. That's it I thought it but to be fair my opinion isn’t based only on what i saw for Town. More what i was told from Arsenal but he was nowhere near the Benfica team so maybe the lad just lost his way and might drift into obscurity. For 750k i thought he was worth the risk. Not having a go but if you pay 750 k for someone it doesn't cost you 750k. IF his wages are 20k a week that's a million a year. This mental spending on footballers will have to stop whether you or I like it or not |
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Post by Camel Grabber on Oct 6, 2020 7:22:01 GMT 1
Genuinely believe we have missed our big time on Willock.
The way CC plays, he would be a class above.
Watch him flourish for QPR
750k for someone like Willock is a bargain
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Post by shawsie on Oct 6, 2020 7:32:51 GMT 1
Genuinely believe we have missed our big time on Willock. The way CC plays, he would be a class above. Watch him flourish for QPR 750k for someone like Willock is a bargain Can i ask on what basis? Showed sporadic flashes of some quality but not enough to warrant spending millions on wages and a transfer or am i missing something. We are all frustrated right now and if he thrives at qpr then we will have made another recruitment error. Not the first or last time tbh. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 9:57:20 GMT 1
Genuinely believe we have missed our big time on Willock. The way CC plays, he would be a class above. Watch him flourish for QPR 750k for someone like Willock is a bargain not overpriced i agree but it could well be the wages he was asking was the problem |
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Post by mids on Oct 6, 2020 10:00:23 GMT 1
Genuinely believe we have missed our big time on Willock. The way CC plays, he would be a class above. Watch him flourish for QPR 750k for someone like Willock is a bargain not overpriced i agree but it could well be the wages he was asking was the problem Or perhaps we had no interest whatsoever in trying to sign him - just a thought like |
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Post by crux on Oct 6, 2020 10:05:20 GMT 1
Genuinely believe we have missed our big time on Willock. The way CC plays, he would be a class above. Watch him flourish for QPR 750k for someone like Willock is a bargain Can i ask on what basis? Showed sporadic flashes of some quality but not enough to warrant spending millions on wages and a transfer or am i missing something. We are all frustrated right now and if he thrives at qpr then we will have made another recruitment error. Not the first or last time tbh. I agree, he did OK but not that well - especially when you add in the wages. I suspect he'd be on more than the (allegedly) £10k p/w that Ward is on due to him being under contract and coming from Benfica via Arsenal. Maybe £15k p/w for 3 years, so you've basically committed to £1m per year wages and fee for 3 years for an 'OK' player. Whether we like it or not, we just can afford that at this moment in time. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 6, 2020 10:12:51 GMT 1
He'd have been a huge improvement on what we have, that's for sure. We were seemingly in for him and missed out. Geography maybe played a part, hopefully not town refusing to pay the going rate.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 6, 2020 10:43:43 GMT 1
He'd have been a huge improvement on what we have, that's for sure. We were seemingly in for him and missed out. Geography maybe played a part, hopefully not town refusing to pay the going rate. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards What's the going rate?? He may have wanted more than our going rate? QPR may be paying over the going rate, they did before and that ended well? Hard to bad mouth us when nobody really knows the going rate and the ins and outs of transfers.. |
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