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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 6, 2020 10:49:40 GMT 1
I don’t see Norwich, Swansea, Fulham, WBA, Bournemouth, Watford, Stoke or any other team relegated in the last 3 years competing with QPR for players and missing out. This isn’t a go at you, you’re totally right about Town and how it is but it shouldn’t be that way. Most of those clubs will compete with QPR far bigger budget than Town and the take over as not helped us one bit. That’s an understatement. But DH May think differently. |
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Post by space hardware on Oct 6, 2020 11:15:46 GMT 1
Meh.
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Post by royrace on Oct 6, 2020 12:00:54 GMT 1
He'd have been a huge improvement on what we have, that's for sure. We were seemingly in for him and missed out. Geography maybe played a part, hopefully not town refusing to pay the going rate. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards What's the going rate?? He may have wanted more than our going rate? QPR may be paying over the going rate, they did before and that ended well? Hard to bad mouth us when nobody really knows the going rate and the ins and outs of transfers.. I agree, we’ve no idea. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating. In other words when we see the state of the squad at the end of the window. If willock is a London boy you can see how that would give QPR the edge. We are desperate for more quality and creativity though so hopefully other irons in the fire. |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 6, 2020 12:09:08 GMT 1
Genuinely believe we have missed our big time on Willock. The way CC plays, he would be a class above. Watch him flourish for QPR 750k for someone like Willock is a bargain Can i ask on what basis? Showed sporadic flashes of some quality but not enough to warrant spending millions on wages and a transfer or am i missing something. We are all frustrated right now and if he thrives at qpr then we will have made another recruitment error. Not the first or last time tbh. But we now have a manager who wants us to be on the front foot and go at teams rather than one that strangled any creativity in the hope we could shithouse a goalless draw |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 6, 2020 12:32:27 GMT 1
Can i ask on what basis? Showed sporadic flashes of some quality but not enough to warrant spending millions on wages and a transfer or am i missing something. We are all frustrated right now and if he thrives at qpr then we will have made another recruitment error. Not the first or last time tbh. But we now have a manager who wants us to be on the front foot and go at teams rather than one that strangled any creativity in the hope we could shithouse a goalless draw Errors in recruitment are made every season, every window by every team. Hope is that enough come good quick enough and the failures can be moved on for enough, quick enough. |
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Post by shawsie on Oct 6, 2020 21:04:38 GMT 1
Can i ask on what basis? Showed sporadic flashes of some quality but not enough to warrant spending millions on wages and a transfer or am i missing something. We are all frustrated right now and if he thrives at qpr then we will have made another recruitment error. Not the first or last time tbh. But we now have a manager who wants us to be on the front foot and go at teams rather than one that strangled any creativity in the hope we could shithouse a goalless draw Strangled any creativity?! There are promising signs under Carlos but let’s not be under the false impression we create shed loads more than we did under the Ron’s.......or that willock did a great deal in his spell here. If we were talking about smith Rowe, then whilst he was hit and miss at times there was a damn sight more hit than willock who was bang average overall imho. |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 6, 2020 21:54:27 GMT 1
But we now have a manager who wants us to be on the front foot and go at teams rather than one that strangled any creativity in the hope we could shithouse a goalless draw Strangled any creativity?! There are promising signs under Carlos but let’s not be under the false impression we create shed loads more than we did under the Ron’s.......or that willock did a great deal in his spell here. If we were talking about smith Rowe, then whilst he was hit and miss at times there was a damn sight more hit than willock who was bang average overall imho. Smith Rowe would cost about 15 million, Willock 750k. |
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Post by shawsie on Oct 6, 2020 22:10:38 GMT 1
Strangled any creativity?! There are promising signs under Carlos but let’s not be under the false impression we create shed loads more than we did under the Ron’s.......or that willock did a great deal in his spell here. If we were talking about smith Rowe, then whilst he was hit and miss at times there was a damn sight more hit than willock who was bang average overall imho. Smith Rowe would cost about 15 million, Willock 750k. 750k + wages = far too much for bang average based on what we saw before. |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 6, 2020 22:26:31 GMT 1
Smith Rowe would cost about 15 million, Willock 750k. 750k + wages = far too much for bang average based on what we saw before. I don’t think he’s bang average but that’s an opinion. But even if he is bang average, that’s still a level well above Koroma, Mbenza, Diakhaby and bloody Arron Rowe. If we sign 2 players above average i’ll hold my hands up and say i was wrong. |
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Post by ben1987 on Oct 6, 2020 22:44:40 GMT 1
He'd have been a huge improvement on what we have, that's for sure. We were seemingly in for him and missed out. Geography maybe played a part, hopefully not town refusing to pay the going rate. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards You didn’t rate him last season and as Ted says, I don’t remember a big clamour from fans at the end of last season to sign him. Wages is a reason as to why Willocks isn’t a town player and we rightly shouldn’t be paying over the odds for a player who had two decent games for us. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 6, 2020 22:49:30 GMT 1
750k + wages = far too much for bang average based on what we saw before. I don’t think he’s bang average but that’s an opinion. But even if he is bang average, that’s still a level well above Koroma, Mbenza, Diakhaby and bloody Arron Rowe. If we sign 2 players above average i’ll hold my hands up and say i was wrong. I don't see Willock being a level above koroma but time will tell |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 6, 2020 22:57:42 GMT 1
I don’t think he’s bang average but that’s an opinion. But even if he is bang average, that’s still a level well above Koroma, Mbenza, Diakhaby and bloody Arron Rowe. If we sign 2 players above average i’ll hold my hands up and say i was wrong. I don't see Willock being a level above koroma but time will tell I hope you’re right but no one is offering 750k for Josh right now even on his low wage. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Oct 6, 2020 23:00:35 GMT 1
He's only just emerging. Along with pipa possibly our best player so far?
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Post by boooothy on Oct 6, 2020 23:34:09 GMT 1
Effort? yes, quality? not for me, not by a long way.
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Post by shawsie on Oct 7, 2020 6:57:36 GMT 1
750k + wages = far too much for bang average based on what we saw before. I don’t think he’s bang average but that’s an opinion. But even if he is bang average, that’s still a level well above Koroma, Mbenza, Diakhaby and bloody Arron Rowe. If we sign 2 players above average i’ll hold my hands up and say i was wrong. I dont dispute that - but having paid big wedge out for 2 of the 4 and being burnt for it has probably made the club cautious. And they all play more or less in the same position - is willock significantly better than those above on what we saw? Not for me but as you say different opinions. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 7, 2020 7:20:12 GMT 1
Effort? yes, quality? not for me, not by a long way. A long way? It’s all about opinions but for me he just needs a goal to kick on. Has pace, strength, is direct and has decent technique. Had the second most number of shots in the league before Saturday according to the sky commentator. I like that, taking responsibility rather than laying it off to someone else. He missed a sitter against forest but he’s been close at other times. A goal will give him confidence. A decent replacement for Kachunga all in. Lacks his goals at the minute, which is crucial, but is quicker, more robust and takes a man on. Probably on half the wages as well. |
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Post by Tiro on Oct 12, 2020 11:14:25 GMT 1
Is Willock a better replacement than Kachunga - yes.
Is Willock a better option than Koroma - yes.
Is Willock a better option than Diakhaby - yes.
Is Willock a better option than Mbenza - possibly.
Is Willock cheaper (net) than Mbenza and Diakhaby - yes.
Is £750k a snip in the Championship at present - yes.
Is £750k considered a fair price in League One - yes.
Could we sign another attacking player with the same calibre/pedigree and potential for cheaper - probably not.
It’s a no brainer for me and a resounding ‘yes’.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 12, 2020 11:16:42 GMT 1
Is Willock a better replacement than Kachunga - yes. Is Willock a better option than Koroma - yes. Is Willock a better option than Diakhaby - yes. Is Willock a better option than Mbenza - possibly. Is Willock cheaper (net) than Mbenza and Diakhaby - yes. Is £750k a snip in the Championship at present - yes. Is £750k considered a fair price in League One - yes. Could we sign another attacking player with the same calibre/pedigree and potential for cheaper - probably not. It’s a no brainer for me and a resounding ‘yes’. He signed for QPR about a week ago. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Oct 12, 2020 11:17:07 GMT 1
Is Willock a better replacement than Kachunga - yes. Is Willock a better option than Koroma - yes. Is Willock a better option than Diakhaby - yes. Is Willock a better option than Mbenza - possibly. Is Willock cheaper (net) than Mbenza and Diakhaby - yes. Is £750k a snip in the Championship at present - yes. Is £750k considered a fair price in League One - yes. Could we sign another attacking player with the same calibre/pedigree and potential for cheaper - probably not. It’s a no brainer for me and a resounding ‘yes’. I do agree but what wages does he want to work in the grim north. Lots i guess and outside our pay structure? |
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Post by Colin the Caterpillar on Oct 12, 2020 11:18:22 GMT 1
Is Willock a better replacement than Kachunga - yes. Is Willock a better option than Koroma - yes. Is Willock a better option than Diakhaby - yes. Is Willock a better option than Mbenza - possibly. Is Willock cheaper (net) than Mbenza and Diakhaby - yes. Is £750k a snip in the Championship at present - yes. Is £750k considered a fair price in League One - yes. Could we sign another attacking player with the same calibre/pedigree and potential for cheaper - probably not. It’s a no brainer for me and a resounding ‘yes’. Signed for QPR last week, mate. |
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Post by Tiro on Oct 12, 2020 13:17:15 GMT 1
Is Willock a better replacement than Kachunga - yes. Is Willock a better option than Koroma - yes. Is Willock a better option than Diakhaby - yes. Is Willock a better option than Mbenza - possibly. Is Willock cheaper (net) than Mbenza and Diakhaby - yes. Is £750k a snip in the Championship at present - yes. Is £750k considered a fair price in League One - yes. Could we sign another attacking player with the same calibre/pedigree and potential for cheaper - probably not. It’s a no brainer for me and a resounding ‘yes’. Signed for QPR last week, mate. I know that. But the discussion as to his merits and his ability seems to have rumbled on, mate. |
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Post by Colin the Caterpillar on Oct 12, 2020 15:20:48 GMT 1
Signed for QPR last week, mate. I know that. But the discussion as to his merits and his ability seems to have rumbled on, mate. Sorry. Just trying to help. Your post reads as if signing him is still a possibility. |
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Post by Towner47 on Oct 12, 2020 15:33:21 GMT 1
Willock completely out of the equation and cant understand the relevance of this continuing thread thread.
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