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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 12:52:07 GMT 1
I'll second all the above praise, but I won't look back on him with much fondness unlike Steve Mounie and other bygone Town heroes.
The fact that he flatly refused to play leaves a sour taste.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Oct 16, 2020 13:29:14 GMT 1
Put it this way. Without his goals we failed to beat Rotherham despite us having 73% possession and 11 shots of which only one was on target. I'd have been pretty confident of Grant netting at least one of those chances and adding to our miserly number of goals so far this season. There are ten other players contributing but it counts for very little if you can't stick it in the net. Would we have had the same control of the game with Grant in the side? He lost the ball an awful lot through poor control or bad decision making Not in areas that hurt us. His "bad decision making" was that of a striker who had a degree of selfishness that all good strikers have. Sometimes it works for you and sometimes it doesn't. |
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Post by impact on Oct 16, 2020 13:49:56 GMT 1
I'll second all the above praise, but I won't look back on him with much fondness unlike Steve Mounie and other bygone Town heroes. The fact that he flatly refused to play leaves a sour taste. When did he refuse to play? |
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Post by nicovaesen on Oct 16, 2020 13:56:02 GMT 1
Pretty much every time he can on after lockdown 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2020 13:59:34 GMT 1
Put it this way. Without his goals we failed to beat Rotherham despite us having 73% possession and 11 shots of which only one was on target. I'd have been pretty confident of Grant netting at least one of those chances and adding to our miserly number of goals so far this season. There are ten other players contributing but it counts for very little if you can't stick it in the net. Would we have had the same control of the game with Grant in the side? He lost the ball an awful lot through poor control or bad decision making Maybe, but you don’t get points for controlling the ball. You get them for winning games through scoring more goals than the opposition. No matter how poor he was at the former (allegedly) he was pretty good at the latter. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Oct 16, 2020 14:15:29 GMT 1
I'll second all the above praise, but I won't look back on him with much fondness unlike Steve Mounie and other bygone Town heroes. The fact that he flatly refused to play leaves a sour taste. I agree, but I haven't seen any evidence of the "downing tolls" bit. I think We were afraid to play him, Covid isolation, Injury and maybe sell on bonuses? UTT |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Oct 16, 2020 14:42:47 GMT 1
I didn't read this thread, but £2.5m up front and the rest over six years?
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Post by 66738 on Oct 16, 2020 14:43:51 GMT 1
I didn't read this thread, but £2.5m up front and the rest over six years? Yes. I’ve just seen that on SSN aswell. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 16, 2020 15:03:27 GMT 1
Probably the only good signing made in the whole of 2018 and 2019
Everyone else either held value (Bacuna) or lost value; Kongolo, Pritchard, Diakhaby, Mbenza etc
He did well for us last season and that's why he's back in the Premier League and WBA values him at £15m
Others in the squad aren't getting moves because they did nowt last year and seem vastly overpaid for their respective talents/ performances
£15m seems a fair price as well and I think on this one the board have got as good a deal as they could. Whether it's paid in 1 or 6 years much of the profit is probably already spoken for and can be earmarked to cover some of the debt to Hoyle
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Post by hthtafs on Oct 16, 2020 15:43:09 GMT 1
I didn't read this thread, but £2.5m up front and the rest over six years? Yes. I’ve just seen that on SSN aswell. Which after we’ve paid Charlton is £2m a season over 6 years ... I suppose looking at it realistically it supplants our match day revenue of £4m a season by 50% for the foreseeable future. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 16, 2020 15:43:20 GMT 1
Probably the only good signing made in the whole of 2018 and 2019 Everyone else either held value (Bacuna) or lost value; Kongolo, Pritchard, Diakhaby, Mbenza etc He did well for us last season and that's why he's back in the Premier League and WBA values him at £15m Others in the squad aren't getting moves because they did nowt last year and seem vastly overpaid for their respective talents/ performances £15m seems a fair price as well and I think on this one the board have got as good a deal as they could. Whether it's paid in 1 or 6 years much of the profit is probably already spoken for and can be earmarked to cover some of the debt to Hoyle Desperate signing and price. That's as much why he is back in the premier league, it's good business for us but let's not over egg the player himself. I dont wish him harm but dont care if he never scores again.. |
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Post by terrierforever on Oct 16, 2020 17:03:34 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 16, 2020 17:14:40 GMT 1
Probably the only good signing made in the whole of 2018 and 2019 Everyone else either held value (Bacuna) or lost value; Kongolo, Pritchard, Diakhaby, Mbenza etc He did well for us last season and that's why he's back in the Premier League and WBA values him at £15m Others in the squad aren't getting moves because they did nowt last year and seem vastly overpaid for their respective talents/ performances £15m seems a fair price as well and I think on this one the board have got as good a deal as they could. Whether it's paid in 1 or 6 years much of the profit is probably already spoken for and can be earmarked to cover some of the debt to Hoyle And only WBA thought that |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 16, 2020 17:19:53 GMT 1
Probably the only good signing made in the whole of 2018 and 2019 Everyone else either held value (Bacuna) or lost value; Kongolo, Pritchard, Diakhaby, Mbenza etc He did well for us last season and that's why he's back in the Premier League and WBA values him at £15m Others in the squad aren't getting moves because they did nowt last year and seem vastly overpaid for their respective talents/ performances £15m seems a fair price as well and I think on this one the board have got as good a deal as they could. Whether it's paid in 1 or 6 years much of the profit is probably already spoken for and can be earmarked to cover some of the debt to Hoyle And only WBA thought that It only needs one though They've deemed that he's worth £15m and put there money where there mouth is - £15m is probably more than the rest of our squad combined after Kongolo goes. We'd maybe get £8m for O'Brien. Bacuna and Toffolo would probably be worth £5m combined but after that I don't think there's much value left especially with only months on their contracts come January |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 16, 2020 17:50:34 GMT 1
And only WBA thought that It only needs one though They've deemed that he's worth £15m and put there money where there mouth is - £15m is probably more than the rest of our squad combined after Kongolo goes. We'd maybe get £8m for O'Brien. Bacuna and Toffolo would probably be worth £5m combined but after that I don't think there's much value left especially with only months on their contracts come January I meant if he was that good more than the team most likely to get relegated would've been on for him |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Oct 16, 2020 17:56:58 GMT 1
It only needs one though They've deemed that he's worth £15m and put there money where there mouth is - £15m is probably more than the rest of our squad combined after Kongolo goes. We'd maybe get £8m for O'Brien. Bacuna and Toffolo would probably be worth £5m combined but after that I don't think there's much value left especially with only months on their contracts come January I meant if he was that good more than the team most likely to get relegated would've been on for him I agree and that's why I said I think the board had done well at that price. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 1:49:32 GMT 1
What would be a good return for Grant after his move to WBA? 5 goals? They’ll be right at the bottom fighting relegation and goals will be hard to come by. I think 5 would be a good return and I think he will get them too. Probably won’t keep West Brom up though.
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Post by upthetown on Oct 17, 2020 5:44:33 GMT 1
What would be a good return for Grant after his move to WBA? 5 goals? They’ll be right at the bottom fighting relegation and goals will be hard to come by. I think 5 would be a good return and I think he will get them too. Probably won’t keep West Brom up though. He got 4 for us in the Premier League from January. WBA won’t be as bad as we were from Xmas onwards that season. I think he will get more than 5 and he will certainly score more than his replacement. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Oct 17, 2020 10:11:05 GMT 1
What would be a good return for Grant after his move to WBA? 5 goals? They’ll be right at the bottom fighting relegation and goals will be hard to come by. I think 5 would be a good return and I think he will get them too. Probably won’t keep West Brom up though. He got 4 for us in the Premier League from January. WBA won’t be as bad as we were from Xmas onwards that season. I think he will get more than 5 and he will certainly score more than his replacement. I think he will do really well. We need to hope we've got a good sell on bonus |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 17, 2020 10:19:24 GMT 1
Anyone know who moved in the negotiations?
If it’s true we are getting 2.5 million for 6 years it sounds like we did. Although it does seem to make a lot of sense from our end to have income for 6 years.
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Post by 66738 on Oct 17, 2020 10:29:27 GMT 1
Anyone know who moved in the negotiations? If it’s true we are getting 2.5 million for 6 years it sounds like we did. Although it does seem to make a lot of sense from our end to have income for 6 years. Sounds like movement on both sides. WBA it seems are skint and wanted a loan deal where a loan fee was paid and obligation to buy IF they retained Prem status this season. If they didn’t, they could send him back to us. We then have a player with 1 year left to run on his contract (June 2022) who doesn’t really want to be here. How much would we get for him with a year on his deal? If for some reason he had a shit season at WBA, it would be even worse. An out of form player with a year left. Would hardly get owt for him. That deal really didn’t work for us. So WBA it seems has moved and to make the switch permanent, so have we, agreeing to the 6 year staged payments. It seems to work for all. I’m happy with it. |
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Post by crux on Oct 17, 2020 10:32:31 GMT 1
Anyone know who moved in the negotiations? If it’s true we are getting 2.5 million for 6 years it sounds like we did. Although it does seem to make a lot of sense from our end to have income for 6 years. I'm guessing here, but I suspect both did. We probably wanted £15m fee guaranteed, WBA offered something like £10m with £5m add ons over 4 years. We ended up getting the full fee, but they paid it over a longer period - although I can't see him staying there 6 years so we should get the money earlier. |
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Post by artysid on Oct 17, 2020 10:47:58 GMT 1
Maybe neither side blinked. Maybe they reached a solution that suited both sides?
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Post by boooothy on Oct 17, 2020 10:51:38 GMT 1
Maybe neither side blinked. Maybe they reached a solution that suited both sides? Only took 10 months |
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Post by artysid on Oct 17, 2020 10:53:23 GMT 1
Maybe neither side blinked. Maybe they reached a solution that suited both sides? Only took 10 months Would we have stayed up IYO if we'd got it done 10 months earlier? |
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Post by boooothy on Oct 17, 2020 10:58:33 GMT 1
Would we have stayed up IYO if we'd got it done 10 months earlier? No. We needed to keep him but the dialogue was opened then. He should have been sold the day the season ended. This could all be down to WBA and Covid of course but seems ridiculous. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 17, 2020 12:08:22 GMT 1
According to an article I just read:
Asking price was initially £25M
Town pushing for £16M
Agreed on £12M, £2M PA for the next 6 years.
West Brom very pleased with themselves.
Make of it what you will, could be BS.
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Post by wigster on Oct 17, 2020 12:11:49 GMT 1
Anyone know who moved in the negotiations? If it’s true we are getting 2.5 million for 6 years it sounds like we did. Although it does seem to make a lot of sense from our end to have income for 6 years. Hope you're right but what £2.5 mill won't buy as much in 6 years time. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 14:48:39 GMT 1
The money has probably already been ringfenced to pay the rent on Canalside for the next 6 years.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Oct 17, 2020 18:15:07 GMT 1
Anyone know who moved in the negotiations? If it’s true we are getting 2.5 million for 6 years it sounds like we did. Although it does seem to make a lot of sense from our end to have income for 6 years. It makes great sense guaranteed income that is rare If he moves again we get paid immediately With profit add on? |
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