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Post by boooothy on Sept 2, 2020 22:37:46 GMT 1
I think he is a natural goal scorer anyone who gets 19 goals with the negative style the Cowley’s played would get 30 in an attack minded team. If you take away his goals we would have probably gone down and did anyone else even reach 8 goals I think he is a rough diamond that can be well and truly polished Danny Ward is a far more polished diamond. Barring injury he will score goals I’ve seen no evidence that this will be the case. |
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Post by Amigo on Sept 2, 2020 22:46:40 GMT 1
What would you do in his position? I know what I'd do, after spending a season and a half at a club. We were either going to get Grant to play a role in a team pushing for a return to the PL, or the alternative for him was to use us as a springboard. No issues if we sell him, good luck to the lad. Did OK for us, but sadly, he hasn't had the sort of impact as Stewart or Rhodes, plus a few more if you go back a little further, Duncan Shearer etc. I think he is a natural goal scorer anyone who gets 19 goals with the negative style the Cowley’s played would get 30 in an attack minded team. If you take away his goals we would have probably gone down and did anyone else even reach 8 goals I think he is a rough diamond that can be well and truly polished Mitrovic, Watkins, Pukki, Abraham, Maupay, Gayle, Wood, Gray etc.. basically anyone that's played in the Championship since the 12/13 season has failed to score 30 goals in some quite attacking teams so to say Grant would is a pretty bold claim (I'm presuming you weren't talking about the Premier League!). |
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Post by royrace on Sept 3, 2020 8:08:10 GMT 1
People need to give Phil a break. Last season was turmoil. Now its all him. I have a feeling we will do well. Totally agree - give him a break and time. Brave decision to sack the Cowleys and we've already seen more exciting football under Carlos. Too many sheep just having a dig at PH at every opportunity. He is not responsible for our screw up. Rome wasn't built in a day but you need good builders and i believe we've got them Already seen exiting football? What against Bradford and ManU kids in a friendly?! Some people are getting carried away with those performances I fear. I hope they continue but we've literally no idea until we see them in a competitive game. Even Rochdale will be a much bigger test. Looking forward to judging in a few weeks. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 3, 2020 8:45:57 GMT 1
I’ve never warmed to Karlan Grant, I can’t put my finger on why.
His demeanour and body language make me think he could be a bit of a twat but I suppose a lot of football players are.
I’m too stuck in my ways of proud to wear the shirt, which hardly exists today.
I suppose the problem isn’t Grant, it’s me.
I still think he is probably a bit of a twat.
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Post by royrace on Sept 3, 2020 8:59:00 GMT 1
I’ve never warmed to Karlan Grant, I can’t put my finger on why. His demeanour and body language make me think he could be a bit of a twat but I suppose a lot of football players are. I’m too stuck in my ways of proud to wear the shirt, which hardly exists today. I suppose the problem isn’t Grant, it’s me. I still think he is probably a bit of a twat. I know what you mean however I loved the fact he came from league one with no fear and scored some superb goals. I think he's a way better player than he's getting credit for on here and I think he'll do well. I think it's been clear for a while he'd be on his way which doesn't help his bond with the fans. I don't think many will be sad to see him leave which is odd really when you consider what he's done for the club! Without his goals we'd be league one. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards |
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Post by andyboothscat on Sept 3, 2020 9:08:50 GMT 1
I’ve never warmed to Karlan Grant, I can’t put my finger on why. His demeanour and body language make me think he could be a bit of a twat but I suppose a lot of football players are. I’m too stuck in my ways of proud to wear the shirt, which hardly exists today. I suppose the problem isn’t Grant, it’s me. I still think he is probably a bit of a twat. I know what you mean however I loved the fact he came from league one with no fear and scored some superb goals. I think he's a way better player than he's getting credit for on here and I think he'll do well. I think it's been clear for a while he'd be on his way which doesn't help his bond with the fans. I don't think many will be sad to see him leave which is odd really when you consider what he's done for the club! Without his goals we'd be league one. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards In all honesty I think much of it as a case of 'Never fancied her anyway' towards an ex who is moving on to bigger and better things, To use a similar analogy It was always a marriage of convenience anyway and the only reason we got him was that we could offer half a year of Premier League experience. Anyone would be kidding themselves to think he wouldn't want to be on his way after bagging 19 goals in a very poor championship side. Whats more they'd be kidding themselves to think that Town wouldn't sell him whilst his stock is high. Its what we do after all. |
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Post by impact on Sept 3, 2020 9:22:36 GMT 1
I never said you did. Others further up the thread did. You replied to my post You replied to mine which was originally aimed at the whole thread. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 10:47:48 GMT 1
You could be talking about pretty much any club in the Football League barring Fulham. Most clubs have brought in only one or two players that they hope will make a difference this summer - and are otherwise relying on players they had out on loan at lower division clubs last season to bulk up the numbers. They aren't all in as much need of a squad overall as us. Currently if you don't think we are heading into the season for another relegation battle then I think your mad Not seen enough about how we're going to try and play and if CC and his crew are good enough to do it successfully with the players we have. At the same stage ahead of the first game last season we'd signed Tommy Elphick, Josh Koroma, and Kamil Grabara, having lost Lowe, Zanka, VLP & Mooy, and we had Siewert as a manager. The teardown of the team compared to the end of last season has been nothing like the same. We didn't sign Smith-Rowe, Willock or Lossl until after Christmas, and whose to say we won't bring in players with similar impact given how stop start Willock was, and how Smith-Rowe was played shackled/looked after in a line up that was all about trying to keep organised defensively and not committing forwards too much. All that can be said at the moment with all the unknowns and undoubted further signings between now and the end of January, is we probably look like a team that will finish somewhere between 10th and 22nd - which is a step change from last season where we went in and any sensible pundit could see (with the benefit of the previous 6 months under Siewert) that we were a 18th to 24th team - and probably raised that to 15th to 23rd with Cowley, where we were after the first few games, and the players we signed in January. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 10:51:13 GMT 1
Danny Ward is a far more polished diamond. Barring injury he will score goals I’ve seen no evidence that this will be the case. Maybe look at his goal scoring record compared to time on the pitch for the evidence?! |
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Post by RickDangerous on Sept 3, 2020 11:05:30 GMT 1
I’ve seen no evidence that this will be the case. Maybe look at his goal scoring record compared to time on the pitch for the evidence?! In terms of numbers anything above 12 goals for Ward from open play is the numbers we'll want. Grant scores a very specific type of goal which is well documented!!! (plus a several pens) Danny Ward is more rounded and clever and will score allsorts. Hopefully he'll run across the keeper too which ive not really seen from us since Rhodes. |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 3, 2020 11:27:37 GMT 1
I’ve seen no evidence that this will be the case. Maybe look at his goal scoring record compared to time on the pitch for the evidence?! He’s been a professional footballer for over 10 years. I can’t be arsed looking up the stats but i’d be surprised if he’s scored more than 10 in any one season. Apart for Danny Cadamatri i can think of another striker who fails to make double figures year after year. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 11:41:45 GMT 1
I could create a company called the Huddersfield Town South Stand Ltd. It doesn't mean I own the stand, the fittings or employ the people who work there. You could. However, the Canalside operation *is* wholly (well, 99%) owned by Huddersfield Town (with additional non-voting shares that pays out £75k to the old Rec Club company if/when Canalside is ever liquidated). Canalside paid NO rental for its leasehold last year (its dependant on business performance). The football club has directly spent more than £8m on Canalside development during the two most recently reported trading years. To suggest the football club doesn't own Canalside is mischievous at best. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Sept 3, 2020 11:49:37 GMT 1
Maybe look at his goal scoring record compared to time on the pitch for the evidence?! He’s been a professional footballer for over 10 years. I can’t be arsed looking up the stats but i’d be surprised if he’s scored more than 10 in any one season. Apart for Danny Cadamatri i can think of another striker who fails to make double figures year after year. According to Transfermarkt Danny Ward has 41 goals in the Championship in his career (220 Championship apps) Of those 39 came from 165 apps as a centre forward www.transfermarkt.by/danny-ward/leistungsdaten/spieler/124172 He's twice scored more than 10 goals in a Championship season 2013/14 when he got 10 for Town from 38 apps 2016/17 when he got 11 for Rotherham from 41 apps en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Ward_(English_footballer) He's a solid signing but it's wishful thinking to see him on a par with Grant as a goal threat |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 11:55:13 GMT 1
Maybe look at his goal scoring record compared to time on the pitch for the evidence?! He’s been a professional footballer for over 10 years. I can’t be arsed looking up the stats but i’d be surprised if he’s scored more than 10 in any one season. Apart for Danny Cadamatri i can think of another striker who fails to make double figures year after year. I can't really help you if you've not seen the evidence but you can't be arsed to look it up!! He's been playing as a striker for 4 seasons max...the last time he was anything other than getting the bit part minutes that he did at Cardiff, he bagged double figures...in a poor Rotherham team at this level. It may well be that he's past his best (although should be hitting a peak couple of years at age 28) - he did look a little sluggish in the friendly that I watched, but that may be down to playing central rather than my memory of him charging full pelt cutting in from the wide, but the EVIDENCE as it stands is that he's a really decent signing and offers something very different to Mounie and Campbell along with the versatility to play effectively in other positions where they would be a total liability. |
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Post by Kenny irons on Sept 3, 2020 12:01:27 GMT 1
West brom back with a improved offer for KG. Not sure if it's enough. Players head has now turned
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Post by impact on Sept 3, 2020 12:02:24 GMT 1
I could create a company called the Huddersfield Town South Stand Ltd. It doesn't mean I own the stand, the fittings or employ the people who work there. You could. However, the Canalside operation *is* wholly (well, 99%) owned by Huddersfield Town (with additional non-voting shares that pays out £75k to the old Rec Club company if/when Canalside is ever liquidated). Canalside paid NO rental for its leasehold last year (its dependant on business performance). The football club has directly spent more than £8m on Canalside development during the two most recently reported trading years. To suggest the football club doesn't own Canalside is mischievous at best. I don't know the inner workings of canalside, I don't know who owns what. But companies house for the company called Canalside doesn't really help say what's going on either way, that's what I was saying. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2020 12:08:18 GMT 1
Danny Ward is a far more polished diamond. Barring injury he will score goals I’ve seen no evidence that this will be the case. There isn’t any evidence to be found of this. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 3, 2020 12:08:36 GMT 1
West brom back with a improved offer for KG. Not sure if it's enough. Players head has now turned to be fair... Does he really want to play for town anymore? Of course he wants to play in the premier league but so does every other player and it doesn't happen for most of them. If it's 18 million we should snap their bloody hands off. |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 3, 2020 12:15:55 GMT 1
I’ve never warmed to Karlan Grant, I can’t put my finger on why. His demeanour and body language make me think he could be a bit of a twat but I suppose a lot of football players are. I’m too stuck in my ways of proud to wear the shirt, which hardly exists today. I suppose the problem isn’t Grant, it’s me. I still think he is probably a bit of a twat. He won't be happy, he's got history for not taking no as an answer (allegedly)🤫😉 |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 3, 2020 12:16:32 GMT 1
West brom back with a improved offer for KG. Not sure if it's enough. Players head has now turned If its worth 15 million all in then take it and move on. Dont piss about for weeks hoping to squeeze another million out because that will only be offset by panic buying/being ripped off by someone else late in the window |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Sept 3, 2020 12:16:33 GMT 1
West brom back with a improved offer for KG. Not sure if it's enough. Players head has now turned to be fair... Does he really want to play for town anymore? Of course he wants to play in the premier league but so does every other player and it doesn't happen for most of them. If it's 18 million we should snap their bloody hands off. I agree I think it's a dangerous game keeping a player who wants out Last season Villa were linked to Kongolo but the move didn't happen and TK's value has since plunged based on his performances and recent injuries |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 3, 2020 12:20:32 GMT 1
He’s been a professional footballer for over 10 years. I can’t be arsed looking up the stats but i’d be surprised if he’s scored more than 10 in any one season. Apart for Danny Cadamatri i can think of another striker who fails to make double figures year after year. According to Transfermarkt Danny Ward has 41 goals in the Championship in his career (220 Championship apps) Of those 39 came from 165 apps as a centre forward www.transfermarkt.by/danny-ward/leistungsdaten/spieler/124172 He's twice scored more than 10 goals in a Championship season 2013/14 when he got 10 for Town from 38 apps 2016/17 when he got 11 for Rotherham from 41 apps en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Ward_(English_footballer) He's a solid signing but it's wishful thinking to see him on a par with Grant as a goal threat If he takes our penalties he could get close and he's a far better all round footballer |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 3, 2020 12:22:09 GMT 1
If he takes our penalties he could get close and he's a far better all round footballer yes he is. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Sept 3, 2020 12:27:01 GMT 1
West brom back with a improved offer for KG. Not sure if it's enough. Players head has now turned £15m was rumoured for KG back in January, so for Town to get anything north of that now, given all that’s happened since then, would be a pleasant surprise. Take the offer Town and move on, as he’ll be disaffected anyway if it doesn’t go through. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 3, 2020 12:29:49 GMT 1
Zohore coming the other way as part of the deal?
That would only make sense if Mounie moved on too as they are quite similar
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Post by impact on Sept 3, 2020 12:32:21 GMT 1
West brom back with a improved offer for KG. Not sure if it's enough. Players head has now turned If its worth 15 million all in then take it and move on. Dont piss about for weeks hoping to squeeze another million out because that will only be offset by panic buying/being ripped off by someone else late in the window Although if we accept it without having a replacement lined up, we'll get ripped off all the same as clubs know that we have the money to spend and are desperate. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 3, 2020 12:39:32 GMT 1
Zohore coming the other way as part of the deal? That would only make sense if Mounie moved on too as they are quite similar Can’t see why we would take Zahore, 3 goals from 17 last year, a 1 in 4 career ratio and a position we have pretty well stocked. If Grant goes we are going to need to bring in someone who can play on the left of the front three. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 3, 2020 12:39:55 GMT 1
I’ve never warmed to Karlan Grant, I can’t put my finger on why. His demeanour and body language make me think he could be a bit of a twat but I suppose a lot of football players are. I’m too stuck in my ways of proud to wear the shirt, which hardly exists today. I suppose the problem isn’t Grant, it’s me. I still think he is probably a bit of a twat. He won't be happy, he's got history for not taking no as an answer (allegedly)🤫😉 he hasn't. it was his Charlton teammate Reeco Hackett-Fairchild that was arrested on suspicion of rape, but Grant was arrested for 'privacy invasion'. both acquitted although it doesn't necessarily mean nothing happened of course |
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Post by boooothy on Sept 3, 2020 12:52:57 GMT 1
He’s been a professional footballer for over 10 years. I can’t be arsed looking up the stats but i’d be surprised if he’s scored more than 10 in any one season. Apart for Danny Cadamatri i can think of another striker who fails to make double figures year after year. I can't really help you if you've not seen the evidence but you can't be arsed to look it up!! He's been playing as a striker for 4 seasons max...the last time he was anything other than getting the bit part minutes that he did at Cardiff, he bagged double figures...in a poor Rotherham team at this level. It may well be that he's past his best (although should be hitting a peak couple of years at age 28) - he did look a little sluggish in the friendly that I watched, but that may be down to playing central rather than my memory of him charging full pelt cutting in from the wide, but the EVIDENCE as it stands is that he's a really decent signing and offers something very different to Mounie and Campbell along with the versatility to play effectively in other positions where they would be a total liability. I hope you’re right |
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Post by griffa on Sept 3, 2020 12:55:59 GMT 1
West brom back with a improved offer for KG. Not sure if it's enough. Players head has now turned Think your on the money Kenny, his head was turned in January, it affected his form, no doubt about it. It's disappointing that so many Town fans, are critical of Karlan Grant. Good luck to the lad, anybody scoring 19 goals in a team as bad as us last season, can't be too bad, not pleasing some! - UTT. |
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