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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 25, 2020 13:56:46 GMT 1
Serious question, I am on a trip to Cardiff later today for 2 days, am I allowed to go into any shops on my visit. Only if you need what you are buying. If youre buying something you dont need, you cant go in.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 25, 2020 13:58:09 GMT 1
With the five tier system up here you would have thought tier 0 would be no restrictions but it's not, just minimum restrictions. Everybody up here knew Nichola would introduce more levels/tiers than Boris. If Boris had done 5, Nichola would have done 6. Crikey , what's level 5, are you bound and gagged and thrown down the cellar That would have been Alex Salmonds tier 5, just for the ladies.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 15:05:10 GMT 1
Star Trek had an episode where all people over 50{I think} were Euthanised.Why don't we adopt this? Some suggestions on this thread are almost tantamount to this.I will be 80 in 3 weeks time,maybe I should chuck myself in front of a train. That would cause hours of disruption and could mentally impact the people dealing with the clean up Book a hotel room somewhere nice, acquire the services of a few lady's of the night then conclude the evening with a big bag of illegal narcotics Go out in style!
At least I would have 10 months to decide, A hooker from each continent is a decision that's already made though I think it will be a tough choice drugs wise, Maybe a good bit of smack and crack (snowballing) or a couple of weeks caning a bag of crystal meth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 15:08:36 GMT 1
37000 in attendance at todays NRL grand final, Just under half the stadiums capacity.
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Post by digs on Oct 25, 2020 15:22:15 GMT 1
Cheers for that, obviously I am an H.G.V driver, so all good thanks. I didn't know you was an HGV driver,thought you was just going on holidayđ
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Oct 25, 2020 15:37:54 GMT 1
With the five tier system up here you would have thought tier 0 would be no restrictions but it's not, just minimum restrictions. Everybody up here knew Nichola would introduce more levels/tiers than Boris. If Boris had done 5, Nichola would have done 6. She's definitely a Topper is yon
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 16:18:19 GMT 1
With the five tier system up here you would have thought tier 0 would be no restrictions but it's not, just minimum restrictions. Everybody up here knew Nichola would introduce more levels/tiers than Boris. If Boris had done 5, Nichola would have done 6. If you've booked to go to Tenerife, guaranteed she'll have been to Elevenerife
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Post by softboy on Oct 25, 2020 18:30:19 GMT 1
People are confused - that is why the various regional bodies have decided to have different messages in different countries of the UK to confuse us even more. To let football fans watch games in a cinema (not been for a while but I believe they are inside) and not in grounds is daft. So is saying it is much easier to steward a game at grass roots level that it is at Town is again daft. Also players from the lower levels of football can take part in the FA Cup, tackle each other, pat each other on the back, celebrate in a group but don't actually have to be tested.
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Post by ram on Oct 26, 2020 11:07:07 GMT 1
Star Trek had an episode where all people over 50{I think} were Euthanised.Why don't we adopt this? Some suggestions on this thread are almost tantamount to this.I will be 80 in 3 weeks time,maybe I should chuck myself in front of a train. I wouldnt as even in your 80s you'll have a 95% + likelihood of surviving covid should you get it, and provided you havent got some serious underlying health problem, even better than those odds. No ones suggesting anything that is tantamount to euthanising the elderly. Enormous resources could be put into shielding them at a fraction of the costs the economy is currently suffering. I just think the bigger concern is throwing everything else in front of a train in some futile attempt to 'beat' a virus that isnt going to go anywhere. And causing tens of thousands of premature deaths in the process. That was meant as a rebuff of the negatives associated with C19 Captain. I am on the vunerable list but carry on as normal.No chance of me approaching a railway line,that part was tongue in cheek mate.
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Post by softboy on Oct 26, 2020 13:04:52 GMT 1
I was flicking through tv channels last night and on BT Sport there was a rerun of Ilkeston v Hartlepool cup tie. I believe there were about 400 so interesting to see how social distancing worked in a standing stadium. By looking at. the crowd behind the goal they simply werenât social distancing at all.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 26, 2020 14:07:51 GMT 1
I went to Whitby at the weekend. On Saturday afternoon Whitby Town were playing and the noise from fans was deafening. No idea how many people were in there but to make that amount of noise there must have been loads. Meanwhile itâs back to watching our game on Sky on Wednesday in a empty stadium.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Oct 26, 2020 14:36:07 GMT 1
I was flicking through tv channels last night and on BT Sport there was a rerun of Ilkeston v Hartlepool cup tie. I believe there were about 400 so interesting to see how social distancing worked in a standing stadium. By looking at. the crowd behind the goal they simply werenât social distancing at all. Not my cup of tea but noticed on the news there were big crowds, leaning on metal barriers for the bike race in Italy the other day, again no sign of any social distancing. Still if anyone can begin to make sense of any legislation with covid go figure this, on the news this morning they read an email from a woman in South Wales who contacted her local Tesco to ask why with the new restrictions in place she was allowed to buy alcohol but not sanitary pads ? The response from them was they were simply following the guidelines imposed on them??
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 26, 2020 15:08:33 GMT 1
Having been to half a dozen non-league games already with crowd of up to 600 Iâd describe attempts to maintain social distancing as âhalf-heartedâ. There are small groups of spectators scattered around, keeping a fair distance apart from each other, but in the food and bar areas and behind the goals it is largely ignored.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Oct 26, 2020 15:46:37 GMT 1
I was flicking through tv channels last night and on BT Sport there was a rerun of Ilkeston v Hartlepool cup tie. I believe there were about 400 so interesting to see how social distancing worked in a standing stadium. By looking at. the crowd behind the goal they simply werenât social distancing at all. You can see why Ilkeston is one of the few areas in Derbyshire under tier 2 regulations. Although, to be fair, I'm not sure how you can regulate it on a terrace, particularly as it was throwing down so everyone would want to be under cover.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 26, 2020 16:57:13 GMT 1
Star Trek had an episode where all people over 50{I think} were Euthanised.Why don't we adopt this? Some suggestions on this thread are almost tantamount to this.I will be 80 in 3 weeks time,maybe I should chuck myself in front of a train. Itâs weird how age is often talked about as a deciding factor. If 50 was the cut off Jesus 3/4 of the population donât have the levels of fitness of many of my colleagues and myself so how would that work . How many of you youngsters Can run a mile in 5 mins have a VO2 of 55 Plus ,can easily do 30 pull ups at once etc etc . age is irrelevant . Fitness is a lifestyle not in an age.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 17:18:09 GMT 1
Star Trek had an episode where all people over 50{I think} were Euthanised.Why don't we adopt this? Some suggestions on this thread are almost tantamount to this.I will be 80 in 3 weeks time,maybe I should chuck myself in front of a train. Itâs weird how age is often talked about as a deciding factor. If 50 was the cut off Jesus 3/4 of the population donât have the levels of fitness of many of my colleagues and myself so how would that work . How many of you youngsters Can run a mile in 5 mins have a VO2 of 55 Plus ,can easily do 30 pull ups at once etc etc . age is irrelevant . Fitness is a lifestyle not in an age.
I think you need to be able to run a mile and half in 5 minutes in a mankini and be able to do 50 pull ups to survive the proposed euthanasia threshold.
Sorry old lad.
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Post by softboy on Oct 26, 2020 18:06:36 GMT 1
I was flicking through tv channels last night and on BT Sport there was a rerun of Ilkeston v Hartlepool cup tie. I believe there were about 400 so interesting to see how social distancing worked in a standing stadium. By looking at. the crowd behind the goal they simply werenât social distancing at all. You can see why Ilkeston is one of the few areas in Derbyshire under tier 2 regulations. Although, to be fair, I'm not sure how you can regulate it on a terrace, particularly as it was throwing down so everyone would want to be under cover. I just feel sorry for the fans who are going to face a heafty fine once the Police has examined BBC footage and the club who will face a ÂŁ10k fine for hosting an event without the required social distancing guidlines being observed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 18:41:04 GMT 1
You can see why Ilkeston is one of the few areas in Derbyshire under tier 2 regulations. Although, to be fair, I'm not sure how you can regulate it on a terrace, particularly as it was throwing down so everyone would want to be under cover. I just feel sorry for the fans who are going to face a heafty fine once the Police has examined BBC footage and the club who will face a ÂŁ10k fine for hosting an event without the required social distancing guidlines being observed. Codswallop! Clubs at Step 3 and below are allowed spectators with capacity levels as agreed (Ilkeston were given a pre-sold capacity of 400 in a stadium that holds over 3000)....percentage wise thats equivalent of allowing around 3000 in at Town (and we know that permission had been granted for crowd of up to 7000 before that was canned). They clearly ARE following the guidelines and law, I know they've withdrawn sale of alcohol other than to people seated in their bar with table service (and are enforcing strict wearing of face coverings when you're going to or leaving your seat). Telephoto lens view of "crowds" is always deceptive - it flattens the front to back and makes things look much busier than they really are.
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 26, 2020 18:46:33 GMT 1
With the five tier system up here you would have thought tier 0 would be no restrictions but it's not, just minimum restrictions. Everybody up here knew Nichola would introduce more levels/tiers than Boris. If Boris had done 5, Nichola would have done 6. She's definitely a Topper is yon The Goombay Dance Band are adamant they are sticking with 7.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Oct 26, 2020 19:01:33 GMT 1
I just feel sorry for the fans who are going to face a heafty fine once the Police has examined BBC footage and the club who will face a ÂŁ10k fine for hosting an event without the required social distancing guidlines being observed. Codswallop! Clubs at Step 3 and below are allowed spectators with capacity levels as agreed (Ilkeston were given a pre-sold capacity of 400 in a stadium that holds over 3000)....percentage wise thats equivalent of allowing around 3000 in at Town (and we know that permission had been granted for crowd of up to 7000 before that was canned). They clearly ARE following the guidelines and law, I know they've withdrawn sale of alcohol other than to people seated in their bar with table service (and are enforcing strict wearing of face coverings when you're going to or leaving your seat). Telephoto lens view of "crowds" is always deceptive - it flattens the front to back and makes things look much busier than they really are. One of our neighbours went down to the previous home game. He said it was somewhat more difficult parking than he would have expected for a crowd capped at 400, although I do know the FA Cup game was ticketed.
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Post by softboy on Oct 26, 2020 19:08:45 GMT 1
I just feel sorry for the fans who are going to face a heafty fine once the Police has examined BBC footage and the club who will face a ÂŁ10k fine for hosting an event without the required social distancing guidlines being observed. Codswallop! Clubs at Step 3 and below are allowed spectators with capacity levels as agreed (Ilkeston were given a pre-sold capacity of 400 in a stadium that holds over 3000)....percentage wise thats equivalent of allowing around 3000 in at Town (and we know that permission had been granted for crowd of up to 7000 before that was canned). They clearly ARE following the guidelines and law, I know they've withdrawn sale of alcohol other than to people seated in their bar with table service (and are enforcing strict wearing of face coverings when you're going to or leaving your seat). Telephoto lens view of "crowds" is always deceptive - it flattens the front to back and makes things look much busier than they really are. So just to clarify spectators at these games don't have to social distance. Apologies for getting it wrong.
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Post by andyeastleake on Oct 26, 2020 19:33:27 GMT 1
How many of you youngsters Can run a mile in 5 mins TBF the age comparison website I use to try & convince myself I'm not that unfit suggests a 50 year old man doing a 5 minute mile on the road has an age grading of 94.97%. A very comfortable higher-end World class grading. A 30 year old achieving it would still be considered "National class". Not surprised therefore that not many on DATM could match that.
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Post by Stewpot on Oct 26, 2020 19:53:06 GMT 1
Currently in Portugal where stricter measures have been re-introduced following a spike in cases, and they have by and large had success in making folk do as they are told! Masks in public areas mandatory, bars having strict protocols enforced, large group gatherings prohibited, and on certain week-ends (the upcoming All Saints holiday week-end being one) where you are not allowed to travel outside your concelho (district). This is an effort to prevent the northern Portuguese from invading the Algarve in droves. Anyhow, all this seemingly good work eradicated in one fell swoop yesterday by allowing upwards of 25,000 in to watch the Portuguese F1 grand prix in Portimao. The argument was numbers were restricted from the 75,000 plus they would have had there in normal circumstances!
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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 26, 2020 20:09:10 GMT 1
How many of you youngsters Can run a mile in 5 mins TBF the age comparison website I use to try & convince myself I'm not that unfit suggests a 50 year old man doing a 5 minute mile on the road has an age grading of 94.97%. A very comfortable higher-end World class grading. A 30 year old achieving it would still be considered "National class". Not surprised therefore that not many on DATM could match that. Exactly age doesnât define us .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 21:19:10 GMT 1
Codswallop! Clubs at Step 3 and below are allowed spectators with capacity levels as agreed (Ilkeston were given a pre-sold capacity of 400 in a stadium that holds over 3000)....percentage wise thats equivalent of allowing around 3000 in at Town (and we know that permission had been granted for crowd of up to 7000 before that was canned). They clearly ARE following the guidelines and law, I know they've withdrawn sale of alcohol other than to people seated in their bar with table service (and are enforcing strict wearing of face coverings when you're going to or leaving your seat). Telephoto lens view of "crowds" is always deceptive - it flattens the front to back and makes things look much busier than they really are. So just to clarify spectators at these games don't have to social distance. Apologies for getting it wrong. People are socially distant in the main and they're outdoors. You'll need to find a supermarket fined ÂŁ10k because people are standing close to each other before it happens at a football match, and you won't ever find such an occurrence at a supermarket. Measures are put in place, but football clubs and supermarkets can't be responsible for going round running a measuring tape between folk! The ludicrous you must do this you can't do that for no real reason is destroying where we're at. We're living in a dictatorship, where decisions are made without any hint of parliamentary scrutiny and diligence - please lets not spend our time bending over backwards allowing that dictatorship to micro-manage and control every aspect of society. This ends bad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2020 23:08:37 GMT 1
Currently in Portugal where stricter measures have been re-introduced following a spike in cases, and they have by and large had success in making folk do as they are told! Masks in public areas mandatory, bars having strict protocols enforced, large group gatherings prohibited, and on certain week-ends (the upcoming All Saints holiday week-end being one) where you are not allowed to travel outside your concelho (district). This is an effort to prevent the northern Portuguese from invading the Algarve in droves. Anyhow, all this seemingly good work eradicated in one fell swoop yesterday by allowing upwards of 25,000 in to watch the Portuguese F1 grand prix in Portimao. The argument was numbers were restricted from the 75,000 plus they would have had there in normal circumstances!
Summed up for me in one statement " making folk do as they are told " ,,,, Press that control button.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2020 23:17:13 GMT 1
Star Trek had an episode where all people over 50{I think} were Euthanised.Why don't we adopt this? Some suggestions on this thread are almost tantamount to this.I will be 80 in 3 weeks time,maybe I should chuck myself in front of a train. Itâs weird how age is often talked about as a deciding factor. If 50 was the cut off Jesus 3/4 of the population donât have the levels of fitness of many of my colleagues and myself so how would that work . How many of you youngsters Can run a mile in 5 mins have a VO2 of 55 Plus ,can easily do 30 pull ups at once etc etc . age is irrelevant . Fitness is a lifestyle not in an age. I'm 56 During first full lockdown I ran 10k every day. When the gym reopened I couldnt lift half of what I used to. It's really weird. I was fitter than ever but really weak. Lost weight though.
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Post by 28901 on Oct 26, 2020 23:18:35 GMT 1
Serious question, I am on a trip to Cardiff later today for 2 days, am I allowed to go into any shops on my visit. Only if you need what you are buying. If youre buying something you dont need, you cant go in. Underrated comment nailing how stupid things have become.
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Post by ambryboy on Oct 26, 2020 23:37:00 GMT 1
Star Trek had an episode where all people over 50{I think} were Euthanised.Why don't we adopt this? Some suggestions on this thread are almost tantamount to this.I will be 80 in 3 weeks time,maybe I should chuck myself in front of a train. My Mum is 75, lives alone but can get out & about as she has a car, and all my brother and I have said to her throughout this is to just think about whether any journey is a ânecessaryâ one. She has no underlying health issues so has carried on doing her own shopping, has her hair done, has seen the odd friend when she can and we have a rota where she comes to us both for Sunday lunch and thatâs been about it. We didnât want her going to the cinema or wandering around the shops with no real inclination of buying anything, all unnecessary trips out in our view but equally, none of us thought it a good idea for her to just hunker down and ride it out. Not ideal but she realised (once weâd hammered it home) that this virus can be fatal to those of a certain age. Itâs down to common sense at the end of the day. Blimey Willo did you have to break out the baseball bats to convince her? Is she not capable of making her own decisions about her wellbeing?
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Post by willo on Oct 27, 2020 0:03:02 GMT 1
My Mum is 75, lives alone but can get out & about as she has a car, and all my brother and I have said to her throughout this is to just think about whether any journey is a ânecessaryâ one. She has no underlying health issues so has carried on doing her own shopping, has her hair done, has seen the odd friend when she can and we have a rota where she comes to us both for Sunday lunch and thatâs been about it. We didnât want her going to the cinema or wandering around the shops with no real inclination of buying anything, all unnecessary trips out in our view but equally, none of us thought it a good idea for her to just hunker down and ride it out. Not ideal but she realised (once weâd hammered it home) that this virus can be fatal to those of a certain age. Itâs down to common sense at the end of the day. Blimey Willo did you have to break out the baseball bats to convince her? Is she not capable of making her own decisions about her wellbeing? Apparently not mate. Admittedly I was referring to when all this started 6 months ago but she really didnât appreciate the seriousness of the situation at the time, not unlike many others tbf.
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