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Post by boooothy on Oct 17, 2020 9:31:54 GMT 1
I wonder if it was dependent on kongolo signing for Fulham? That was probably one of the last confirmed. Maybe everything had been submitted for Aaron’s but without TKs wage off the books Town wouldn’t finalise Aaron’s? Makes sense. I thought that but if we’re saying 2 other signings fell through, their wages must have been budgeted for so it doesn’t make sense. Unless there was a transfer fee that needed covering. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 9:37:55 GMT 1
Spaniard inbound Don't get carried away tho it's no one special Far as I am aware this is actually right, do we have a name? |
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Post by zoso on Oct 17, 2020 9:41:22 GMT 1
I thought that but if we’re saying 2 other signings fell through, their wages must have been budgeted for so it doesn’t make sense. Unless there was a transfer fee that needed covering. I suppose it depends on how much PH wanted the wage bill reducing by. If Kongolo hadn't ended up going to Fulham, we'd still have his wages, plus Aaron's wages to pay. Thing is we don't know what our budget is, but we need to be as sustainable as possible, imo. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Oct 17, 2020 9:49:58 GMT 1
Spaniard inbound Don't get carried away tho it's no one special Free agent presumably so will have to quarantine for 2 weeks? |
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Post by rugbyterrier on Oct 17, 2020 9:50:15 GMT 1
I thought that but if we’re saying 2 other signings fell through, their wages must have been budgeted for so it doesn’t make sense. Unless there was a transfer fee that needed covering. I suppose it depends on how much PH wanted the wage bill reducing by. If Kongolo hadn't ended up going to Fulham, we'd still have his wages, plus Aaron's wages to pay. Thing is we don't know what our budget is, but we need to be as sustainable as possible, imo. Maybe one day Phil might admit "its nobody's fault but mine!!😉 |
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Post by jqhtfc on Oct 17, 2020 10:03:07 GMT 1
Spaniard inbound Don't get carried away tho it's no one special Free agent presumably so will have to quarantine for 2 weeks? I believe he’s already done the 2 week quarantine and has been training, cm I heard |
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Post by zoso on Oct 17, 2020 10:05:04 GMT 1
I suppose it depends on how much PH wanted the wage bill reducing by. If Kongolo hadn't ended up going to Fulham, we'd still have his wages, plus Aaron's wages to pay. Thing is we don't know what our budget is, but we need to be as sustainable as possible, imo. Maybe one day Phil might admit "its nobody's fault but mine!!😉 Very good!  |
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Post by royrace on Oct 17, 2020 10:12:57 GMT 1
I thought that but if we’re saying 2 other signings fell through, their wages must have been budgeted for so it doesn’t make sense. Unless there was a transfer fee that needed covering. Just seems like they've ballsed up the negotiations and probably aren't prepared to pay the going rate. Let's face it they can't even negotiate a shirt sponsor and are prepared to go without because they're so pig headed and unrealistic about the market. I'm yet to see this huge reduction in clubs paying fees, massive wage cuts and hundreds of players without clubs. Club is running around telling everyone the sky is falling down whilst others are doing deals to ensure they aren't relegated. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards |
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Post by incognito on Oct 17, 2020 11:12:44 GMT 1
It doesn’t sit right for me. If the deal had been teed up to the point that Aarons was sitting in Town owned accommodation, then surely everything had been negotiated and it was a matter of submitting paperwork at the appropriate time? That is of course, unless one of the three parties involved, Town, Newcastle or Arrons changed their terms last minute? If that happened then the party that changed got what they deserved. I wonder if it was dependent on kongolo signing for Fulham? That was probably one of the last confirmed. Maybe everything had been submitted for Aaron’s but without TKs wage off the books Town wouldn’t finalise Aaron’s? I wouldn't be surprised if we were holding out for Newcastle to settle up his contract but they continued to demand some sort of payment... I was quite open minded about this as a potential low-cost/risk signing, but not overly concerned that it didn't happen. That said, I had assumed that Aarons would have been in addition to the actual Grant replacement we had lined up! |
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Post by 4 pts on Oct 17, 2020 11:14:15 GMT 1
I wonder if it was dependent on kongolo signing for Fulham? That was probably one of the last confirmed. Maybe everything had been submitted for Aaron’s but without TKs wage off the books Town wouldn’t finalise Aaron’s? Makes sense. If thats the case we can't bring in Aarons, Rolando bloody Aarons, then it really is a sad state of affairs Outs since Premier League Remnants Ins
Terence Kongolo Ben Hamer
Harry Toffolo
Elias Kachunga Jonathan Hogg
Tommy Elphick
Aaron Mooy Juninho Bacuna
Richard Stearman
Joel Coleman Alex Pritchard
Josh Koroma
Herbert Bockhorn Adama Diakhaby
Frazier Campbell
Karlan Grant Isaac Mbenza
Danny Ward
Rajiv van La Parra Christopher Schindler
Pipa
Collin Quaner Carel Eiting
Steve Mounie Joel Pereira
Jon Gorenc Stankovic
Florent Hadergjonaj
Ramadan Sobhi
Chris Löwe
Philip Billing
Laurent Depoitre
Zanka
Danny Williams
Tommy Smith
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Oct 17, 2020 11:23:57 GMT 1
Free agent presumably so will have to quarantine for 2 weeks? I believe he’s already done the 2 week quarantine and has been training, cm I heard Ander Iturraspe? |
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Post by artysid on Oct 17, 2020 11:41:34 GMT 1
If thats the case we can't bring in Aarons, Rolando bloody Aarons, then it really is a sad state of affairs Outs since Premier League Remnants Ins
Terence Kongolo Ben Hamer
Harry Toffolo
Elias Kachunga Jonathan Hogg
Tommy Elphick
Aaron Mooy Juninho Bacuna
Richard Stearman
Joel Coleman Alex Pritchard
Josh Koroma
Herbert Bockhorn Adama Diakhaby
Frazier Campbell
Karlan Grant Isaac Mbenza
Danny Ward
Rajiv van La Parra Christopher Schindler
Pipa
Collin Quaner Carel Eiting
Steve Mounie Joel Pereira
Jon Gorenc Stankovic
Florent Hadergjonaj
Ramadan Sobhi
Chris Löwe
Philip Billing
Laurent Depoitre
Zanka
Danny Williams
Tommy Smith
Jonas Lossl
Scott Malone
Tom Ince
Abdelhamid Sabiri
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Oct 17, 2020 11:49:07 GMT 1
Free agent presumably so will have to quarantine for 2 weeks? I believe he’s already done the 2 week quarantine and has been training, cm I heard That would be just like us to sign a CM when we need an attacker |
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 17, 2020 12:04:38 GMT 1
I believe he’s already done the 2 week quarantine and has been training, cm I heard Ander Iturraspe? We need someone else who's able to play that deep defensive midfield role Hogg was playing against Rotherham. Former teammate of Pipa at Espanyol, and got to a Europa League final with Athletic under Bielsa playing in that same position. I think Eiting's passing skills are better used in a further forward position as well so Iturraspe would make sense and hopefully be a really good signing. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Oct 17, 2020 12:05:34 GMT 1
I believe he’s already done the 2 week quarantine and has been training, cm I heard Ander Iturraspe? Compete and or share the workload with Hoggy? Both in their 30’s. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Oct 17, 2020 12:10:42 GMT 1
We need someone else who's able to play that deep defensive midfield role Hogg was playing against Rotherham. Former teammate of Pipa at Espanyol, and got to a Europa League final with Athletic under Bielsa playing in that same position. I think Eiting's passing skills are better used in a further forward position as well so Iturraspe would make sense and hopefully be a really good signing. Interesting that Iturraspe was also linked to Leeds and has played under Bielsa before. That suggests he would be a good fit. |
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Oct 17, 2020 12:47:01 GMT 1
We need someone else who's able to play that deep defensive midfield role Hogg was playing against Rotherham. Former teammate of Pipa at Espanyol, and got to a Europa League final with Athletic under Bielsa playing in that same position. I think Eiting's passing skills are better used in a further forward position as well so Iturraspe would make sense and hopefully be a really good signing. Interesting that Iturraspe was also linked to Leeds and has played under Bielsa before. That suggests he would be a good fit. Also suggests he is a decent player. 31 ain't old for a DM at all. |
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Post by zoso on Oct 17, 2020 17:12:09 GMT 1
If thats the case we can't bring in Aarons, Rolando bloody Aarons, then it really is a sad state of affairs Outs since Premier League Remnants Ins
Terence Kongolo Ben Hamer
Harry Toffolo
Elias Kachunga Jonathan Hogg
Tommy Elphick
Aaron Mooy Juninho Bacuna
Richard Stearman
Joel Coleman Alex Pritchard
Josh Koroma
Herbert Bockhorn Adama Diakhaby
Frazier Campbell
Karlan Grant Isaac Mbenza
Danny Ward
Rajiv van La Parra Christopher Schindler
Pipa
Collin Quaner Carel Eiting
Steve Mounie Joel Pereira
Jon Gorenc Stankovic
Florent Hadergjonaj
Ramadan Sobhi
Chris Löwe
Philip Billing
Laurent Depoitre
Zanka
Danny Williams
Tommy Smith
Jonas Lossl
Scott Malone
Tom Ince
Abdelhamid Sabiri
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 18:59:14 GMT 1
What a crushing day, CC will have to coach the beejezus out of this team. 2-3 good players short and now hostage to the mercenary market, futures bright! The young ones must be fist pumping in private because they will get plenty of chances to play. How right you were..young Josh Koroma opens his account after his first run in the team. All the players were buzzing today from the young to the old in Hogg and Stearman & Hamer. Not since early Wagner have the players looked so energised and united. |
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Post by wazzahtfc on Oct 17, 2020 22:05:33 GMT 1
Reliably informed the paperwork cock up was on the Newcastle end , and that Aarons will still sign in January. Time will tell
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Post by est1908 on Oct 17, 2020 22:36:05 GMT 1
Dunno what the problem is, we create enough, they'll start going in....  Only if they are taking the same stuff you are. and they did....  |
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Post by suttystolemymarsbar on Oct 17, 2020 23:57:48 GMT 1
Maybe one day Phil might admit "its nobody's fault but mine!!😉 Very good! I think Phil will be thinking that today is a Celebration Day |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Oct 18, 2020 0:03:43 GMT 1
Reliably informed the paperwork cock up was on the Newcastle end , and that Aarons will still sign in January. Time will tell Of course it was 😉 That said, come the January window, he might not be what we need. |
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Post by zoso on Oct 18, 2020 0:13:38 GMT 1
Very good! I think Phil will be thinking that today is a Celebration Day Sure is, still feel a bit Dazed and Confused by it all though! |
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Post by terriers2000 on Oct 18, 2020 8:23:11 GMT 1
Are we getting Ander Iturraspe?
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Post by rugbyterrier on Oct 18, 2020 8:27:51 GMT 1
I think Phil will be thinking that today is a Celebration Day Sure is, still feel a bit Dazed and Confused by it all though! [/quweote] We gave no quarter at Swansea yesterday but I wont ramble on about it. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Oct 18, 2020 8:46:04 GMT 1
Are we getting Ander Iturraspe? I heard it was that others bloke from Barcelona...... Anders Iniesta, or something like that. |
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Post by zoso on Oct 18, 2020 8:56:12 GMT 1
Sure is, still feel a bit Dazed and Confused by it all though! [/quweote] We gave no quarter at Swansea yesterday but I wont ramble on about it. The only disappointment for me is the continual communication breakdown from the club to the fans. |
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Post by arry11 on Oct 18, 2020 9:50:26 GMT 1
Only if they are taking the same stuff you are. and they did.... The boys did good well pleased with the points Carlos as a few games now too look at the squad hopefully tweak a bit in Jan. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Oct 18, 2020 11:25:12 GMT 1
Reliably informed the paperwork cock up was on the Newcastle end , and that Aarons will still sign in January. Time will tell Feels right they have little invested in him moving when they have other priorities He should be cheaper, keep him here let him train & stay in our bubble |
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