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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Feb 2, 2021 8:59:00 GMT 1
We are nailed on to sign an out of contract player another club has let go till the end of the season
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Post by snoopy on Feb 2, 2021 8:59:07 GMT 1
Maynard seem to suggest there was an incoming, would be interesting to find out what happened
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 2, 2021 9:00:57 GMT 1
Maynard seem to suggest there was an incoming, would be interesting to find out what happened same story as last window probably, inexperienced negotiating team running out of time |
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 2, 2021 9:01:25 GMT 1
Not sure why we were scrambling to find a striker at the last minute. I can't quite get my head around it. We obviously identified players early who we signed in good time such as Holmes, Wood and Grant, so, did we identify the need for a striker or was this not on the priority list? I reckon that the suits panicked when they realised that not signing a striker was going to alienate a proportion of the fan base (some are ritually burning their scarves in their back gardens as I type). However, because we couldn't get rid of Pritchard and Diakhaby early, our options were somewhat limited. Hence, looking at bargains just to appease the fanbase. I'm not happy if this is the case. There are of course benefits of not signing a striker, although our lack of options up front is a risk. 1. We sign a player who takes two weeks (min) to get our style of play and the rigours of our training regime. If he doesn't get injured  it will then maybe take another month before they are firing on all cylinders - this will be around mid-march - a bit late. 2. We sign a player like Jutkiewitcz and again he has to adapt to the training and our style of play. He's moved away from family, a short term upheaval, and for what 3 months of purgatory on the training pitch. Strange to understand why he didn't want to move! Therefore, happy that we didn't sign someone just to provide raw meat for the dogs (they'll always want more). Best wait until summer when we have got some wages off the books and can take a proper look. Spot on. Without spending any money the board have gone from looking controlled, focused and composed to looking weak, panicked and incapable of operating effectively in the market. All we need now is CC being paraded in front of the press to say he’s happy with the squad anyway, like the victim in a hostage video. Meanwhile PH, Bromby & whoever else is currently within the revolving doors of the club, cower away without saying a word until ST renewal time. It's a game, nobody buys season tickets in January. No point in spending a fortune on a proven striker, or am I being cynical? |
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Post by linson on Feb 2, 2021 9:07:31 GMT 1
Not sure why we were scrambling to find a striker at the last minute. I can't quite get my head around it. We obviously identified players early who we signed in good time such as Holmes, Wood and Grant, so, did we identify the need for a striker or was this not on the priority list? I reckon that the suits panicked when they realised that not signing a striker was going to alienate a proportion of the fan base (some are ritually burning their scarves in their back gardens as I type). However, because we couldn't get rid of Pritchard and Diakhaby early, our options were somewhat limited. Hence, looking at bargains just to appease the fanbase. I'm not happy if this is the case. There are of course benefits of not signing a striker, although our lack of options up front is a risk. 1. We sign a player who takes two weeks (min) to get our style of play and the rigours of our training regime. If he doesn't get injured it will then maybe take another month before they are firing on all cylinders - this will be around mid-march - a bit late. 2. We sign a proven player like Jutkiewitcz and again he has to adapt to the training and our style of play. He's moved away from family, a short term upheaval, and for what 3 months of purgatory on the training pitch. Strange to understand why he didn't want to move! Therefore, happy that we didn't sign someone just to provide raw meat for the dogs (they'll always want more). Best wait until summer when we have got some wages off the books and can take a proper look. Wood? |
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Post by boooothy on Feb 2, 2021 9:09:27 GMT 1
The whole season has been a gamble. Stay up while spending as little as possible.
If if backfires we look very very stupid. If we stay up let’s just hope we’ve got decent signings lined up and it’s not Bromby sat with 3 mobile phones again begging in the last few hours of the next window.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 9:09:58 GMT 1
At least all are relegation rivals tried to improve and make an effort to stay up whilst we can’t even afford to loan in a young prem striker, Preston signing Anthony Gordon another one missed its just embarrassing now.
We will be lucky to stay up this season, Phil probably wants us relegated so we can have the salary cap anyway. Leigh Bromby just a cheap nothing appointment with evidently no contacts, Diakhaby another high earner gone can’t wait to see who sticks up for them in the summer once the final few have gone and we still don’t spend a penny.
All the best Carlos you’ve done great so far good luck for the rest of the season with the short hand you’ve been given.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 9:13:00 GMT 1
The narrative has changed. They’ve spent 5 months saying CC is happy with his squad. Now we know we were actually desperate to sign almost anyone to boost numbers. No way was CC involved in identifying the 5 we were linked with yesterday, all of whom had different playing styles and attributes.
It was a car crash of a day for all involved which achieved nothing but undermining the messages put out by the club all season, showing the inability of the board to get deals over the line and highlighting the chasm that exists beteeen board, manager and fans.
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Post by kennyk2 on Feb 2, 2021 9:17:25 GMT 1
Not sure why we were scrambling to find a striker at the last minute. I can't quite get my head around it. We obviously identified players early who we signed in good time such as Holmes, Wood and Grant, so, did we identify the need for a striker or was this not on the priority list? I reckon that the suits panicked when they realised that not signing a striker was going to alienate a proportion of the fan base (some are ritually burning their scarves in their back gardens as I type). However, because we couldn't get rid of Pritchard and Diakhaby early, our options were somewhat limited. Hence, looking at bargains just to appease the fanbase. I'm not happy if this is the case. There are of course benefits of not signing a striker, although our lack of options up front is a risk. 1. We sign a player who takes two weeks (min) to get our style of play and the rigours of our training regime. If he doesn't get injured it will then maybe take another month before they are firing on all cylinders - this will be around mid-march - a bit late. 2. We sign a proven player like Jutkiewitcz and again he has to adapt to the training and our style of play. He's moved away from family, a short term upheaval, and for what 3 months of purgatory on the training pitch. Strange to understand why he didn't want to move! Therefore, happy that we didn't sign someone just to provide raw meat for the dogs (they'll always want more). Best wait until summer when we have got some wages off the books and can take a proper look. Wood? Thomas... Oh and Aarons, but rather than early you could have called him a late signing! |
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Post by johns on Feb 2, 2021 9:19:40 GMT 1
Time for Bromby to go,all our best transfer business lately has been by our Managers and not Bromby and his team.Toff and Smith Rowe the Cowleys. Pipa and Vallejo by Carlos. Most of the rest Bromby and his team.If we are having a squad sort out in the summer this prick can't be in charge of it.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 2, 2021 9:24:43 GMT 1
The narrative has changed. They’ve spent 5 months saying CC is happy with his squad. Now we know we were actually desperate to sign almost anyone to boost numbers. No way was CC involved in identifying the 5 we were linked with yesterday, all of whom had different playing styles and attributes. It was a car crash of a day for all involved which achieved nothing but undermining the messages put out by the club all season, showing the inability of the board to get deals over the line and highlighting the chasm that exists beteeen board, manager and fans. Don’t, you’ll be called a bedwetter |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 9:29:13 GMT 1
The narrative has changed. They’ve spent 5 months saying CC is happy with his squad. Now we know we were actually desperate to sign almost anyone to boost numbers. No way was CC involved in identifying the 5 we were linked with yesterday, all of whom had different playing styles and attributes. It was a car crash of a day for all involved which achieved nothing but undermining the messages put out by the club all season, showing the inability of the board to get deals over the line and highlighting the chasm that exists beteeen board, manager and fans. Last night was like watching a bloke trying to do his shopping in a motorway services at midnight on Christmas Eve. Happy Christmas, Carlos. Does your new ice scraper glove fit? And who doesn't like a tin of travel sweets and a Val Doonican CD, eh? |
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Post by jonny5 on Feb 2, 2021 9:37:39 GMT 1
What a shambles. The club spent 30 days saying we didn’t need a striker then desperately tried to sign 5 yesterday. Failing to finalise every deal. Maynard confirmed we were still trying late into the night. Probably sat looking through a yellow pages for anyone who would save face on the cheap. Christ knows what our level of scouting and long term planning is like if this is how we conduct our business. The good news is that he found a bike shop for the next pedal for pounds  |
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Post by captainblack on Feb 2, 2021 9:39:17 GMT 1
The whole season has been a gamble. Stay up while spending as little as possible. If if backfires we look very very stupid. If we stay up let’s just hope we’ve got decent signings lined up and it’s not Bromby sat with 3 mobile phones again begging in the last few hours of the next window. All will probably be forgotten if we manage to stay up reasonably comfortably , however if we really begin to struggle (like I think we will) then things are going to become very sour at the club. You are correct to say this season looks as though its been a huge gamble, I sincerely hope it pays off , if in the worst case scenario we were relegated then I honestly believe P.H. is finished ! I hope C.C. can get us over the line this season, I like the man , and under the circumstances I think he is doing a decent Job , I just feel we are in for a rollercoaster end to the season! |
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Post by Terriersmad on Feb 2, 2021 9:47:37 GMT 1
So the transfer window in hindsight is as follows:
Good: Bringing in Aarons and Holmes to boost first-team attacking options and improve supply lines, seemingly for little outlay. Other sensible business was bringing in experienced cover in goal and an up-and-coming winger in Thomas.
Bad: No striker. Completely losing the plot on deadline day. Quite how we sum yesterday up is beyond me. It's clear that we panicked despite having been a (I'm being kind) striker light since the summer and the sales of Grant and Mounié. The injury to Koroma should have been a prompt for the club to try to do business early in relation to bringing in someone new. Instead, we took a scattergun approach, seemingly in response to two games where we didn't put chances away rather than the longer-term problems we've had in front of goal. We seemed to just try to sign anyone, regardless of style of play, in a blind panic. And duly failed to land anyone whatsoever. Add to that, our refusal to spend more than peanuts on a player for the here and now, or even seemingly consider a loan until the last minute when all was lost, showed a worrying naivety within the club.
Ugly: The signing of Keogh, although essential, summed up how messy our transfer business has been recently.
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 2, 2021 9:52:49 GMT 1
The narrative has changed. They’ve spent 5 months saying CC is happy with his squad. Now we know we were actually desperate to sign almost anyone to boost numbers. No way was CC involved in identifying the 5 we were linked with yesterday, all of whom had different playing styles and attributes. It was a car crash of a day for all involved which achieved nothing but undermining the messages put out by the club all season, showing the inability of the board to get deals over the line and highlighting the chasm that exists beteeen board, manager and fans. Surely the only reason the narrative has changed is because of injuries to the squad? Bit disappointed we didn’t bring someone in although it was pretty clear there was hardly anyone decent available too. We need our injured forwards (Ward, Koroma) back ASAP and we’ll be ok. We’ve added attackers in Aaron’s and Holmes and were moving to a much less punishing schedule which fingers crossed see’s a healthier squad. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 2, 2021 9:54:05 GMT 1
Just a note: how do we know that all the reports of who town were in for are correct? the only itk information we have is that we pulled out of the Adebayo move yesterday morning.
All we've been going off is twitter accounts- the only one of these that I know to usually be reliable has got things wrong with us before. You can't start an inquest without any information. If it turns out we did scramble around like that at the 11th hour I'm looking forward to when Steven Chicken next corners Phil and Leigh.
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Post by captainblack on Feb 2, 2021 9:57:52 GMT 1
The narrative has changed. They’ve spent 5 months saying CC is happy with his squad. Now we know we were actually desperate to sign almost anyone to boost numbers. No way was CC involved in identifying the 5 we were linked with yesterday, all of whom had different playing styles and attributes. It was a car crash of a day for all involved which achieved nothing but undermining the messages put out by the club all season, showing the inability of the board to get deals over the line and highlighting the chasm that exists beteeen board, manager and fans. Don’t, you’ll be called a bedwetter I better put the protective plastic sheet on tonight, there's going to be some bedwetting !  |
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Post by alexdire on Feb 2, 2021 10:06:47 GMT 1
An injury to Campbell away from being in a complete mess, UTT How is that going to effect our goal scoring? It isn't going to make it worse. |
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Post by H6dds on Feb 2, 2021 10:07:58 GMT 1
Just a note: how do we know that all the reports of who town were in for are correct? the only itk information we have is that we pulled out of the Adebayo move yesterday morning. All we've been going off is twitter accounts- the only one of these that I know to usually be reliable has got things wrong with us before. You can't start an inquest without any information. If it turns out we did scramble around like that at the 11th hour I'm looking forward to when Steven Chicken next corners Phil and Leigh. agreed, Maynard said we were after a striker until late but it doesn’t mean we panicked and tried to sign all the players we were rumored with. We might have been after one of them with the mindset that if we can get it done it would be good but if not it’s not the end of the world. I have been a big supporter of the clubs supposed new direction but if what I have written above is wrong and they really were panicking and going for random strikers in the final minutes it certainly raises concerns even for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 10:08:38 GMT 1
The narrative has changed. They’ve spent 5 months saying CC is happy with his squad. Now we know we were actually desperate to sign almost anyone to boost numbers. No way was CC involved in identifying the 5 we were linked with yesterday, all of whom had different playing styles and attributes. It was a car crash of a day for all involved which achieved nothing but undermining the messages put out by the club all season, showing the inability of the board to get deals over the line and highlighting the chasm that exists beteeen board, manager and fans. Surely the only reason the narrative has changed is because of injuries to the squad? Bit disappointed we didn’t bring someone in although it was pretty clear there was hardly anyone decent available too. We need our injured forwards (Ward, Koroma) back ASAP and we’ll be ok. We’ve added attackers in Aaron’s and Holmes and were moving to a much less punishing schedule which fingers crossed see’s a healthier squad. Ward was crocked the day we signed him. Aarons has replaced the injured Koroma. Nothing changed yesterday other than the club was running around desperately trying to bag a striker like a sailor on a night’s shore leave looking for a cheap hooker. |
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Post by nicovaesen on Feb 2, 2021 10:23:48 GMT 1
No doubt been mentioned but the board believe this squad is capable of staying in this league (injuries aside) but the majority of people predicted this leagues physicality would stretch this paper thin squad, and it has. It seems they will be happy for us to stay up without spending and treat it like a promotion. CC’s early progress will have absolutely cemented that belief. However, a full strength team firing on all cylinders, is a match for any team in this league this season. It seems strange to us that we’ve not addresses gaping holes in the squad regardless of pandemics, they’ve been there a while. I think we will stay up especially when injured players return but the activity of the club without any heads speaking publicly is worrying. I’m optimistic with CC at the helm just hope he dosent become another chapman or the other chap who turned a certain club into world beaters all because the board wouldn’t/couldn’t back him. Time will tell but it feels like a promise of a transformer at Christmas and you open a go bot! Showing my age now. UTT
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 2, 2021 10:25:47 GMT 1
Seen 3 or 4 people now having a go at Town for signing Keogh and citing Brentford signing Winston Reid as the business we should be doing.
Winston Reid is 32, hasn't played for West Ham in any of the last THREE seasons, and was crocked with an ACL injury for parts of the 2 seasons before that. In what world is that a different class of signing to Keogh?
Bed. Wetters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 10:28:18 GMT 1
Hard not to compare with the days of Webber running the show, when good quality signings appeared at press conferences about an hour after rumours started circulating. The whole club seemed to be run on a far more professional level.
Being Town, it couldn’t last!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 10:28:41 GMT 1
Just a note: how do we know that all the reports of who town were in for are correct? the only itk information we have is that we pulled out of the Adebayo move yesterday morning. All we've been going off is twitter accounts- the only one of these that I know to usually be reliable has got things wrong with us before. You can't start an inquest without any information. If it turns out we did scramble around like that at the 11th hour I'm looking forward to when Steven Chicken next corners Phil and Leigh. correct just speculation and hogg re signing and if diakaby has gone not a bad days work but those strikers we are supposed to have been after most didnt want them anyway. hypocrites doesnt even cover it.Drama queens does |
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 2, 2021 10:32:54 GMT 1
Weird window, I can’t be the only one struck by the irony of people on one hand celebrating us moving on one of the most expensive failed gambles in our history, and on the other screaming and balling because we won’t sign absolutely anyone available?
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Feb 2, 2021 10:35:14 GMT 1
Really disappointed in Town today - the lack of ambition is laid bare. We needed a striker, practically everyone said it. We failed to get one again and this is the third window out of four that has descended into last day farce and leading to us trawling the free agent list (like Summer 2019 when we signed Campbell and Simpson) and the last window where we signed Vallejo. Lessons don't seem to be learned, there's driving a keen deal and there's shooting yourself in the foot. We get the balance wrong
I don't know what happened with the Walsall lad. Luton offered less and got him. Either we walked away – in an act of ridiculous self-harm - or tried to structure a deal in instalments and Walsall preferred cash up front. If it's the latter I worry for our cash on hand position relative to smaller teams like Luton (who also have to adjust plans due to Covid)
I am trying to understand why we can't close a deal for a £250k striker - in context Dean Hoyle is due £10,000,000 this year, which equates to £27,397 a day. So we're talking what we'll pay DH in 9 days this year pro rata to cover this fee. Could that not have been delayed and tagged on the end of the repayment plan?
Regardless, I see no learning from mistakes. A club outmanoeuvred and outsmarted by other Championship sides. All the relegation threatened sides have strengthen, we’ve filled the gaps for injuries (Keogh in CB, Holmes for Eiting), finally done the Aarons deal and got two B team players for next season. Teams below have strengthened and I predict we’re really about 5 points clear of the bottom three once they’re played the games in hand. Meanwhile our results in 2021 have been bad.
We’ll see how the season pans out – but I’m utterly fed up with the club this morning
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Post by Maynardblue on Feb 2, 2021 10:35:16 GMT 1
I'm sorry guys.
I genuinely expected one of the deals over the line last night.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 2, 2021 10:37:41 GMT 1
I'm sorry guys. I genuinely expected one of the deals over the line last night. You shouldn't need to apologise for anything. Most of us appreciate the information you give us regardless of whether the club manage to get the deal(s) over the line or not. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Feb 2, 2021 10:39:19 GMT 1
I'm sorry guys. I genuinely expected one of the deals over the line last night. No need to apologise you’re not the one running things and making these decisions. |
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