|
Post by terriertim on Feb 2, 2021 19:33:16 GMT 1
Did anyone sign Danny Ward ?
|
|
|
Post by Porrohman on Feb 2, 2021 19:35:43 GMT 1
Did anyone sign Danny Ward ? Yes, us
|
|
midlander
David Wagner Terrier
[M0:0]
Posts: 2,943
|
Post by midlander on Feb 2, 2021 19:48:43 GMT 1
Although we shouldn't be surprised by this sort of thing anymore it is absolutely baffling that a CF wasn't brought in with the serious lack of goals in comparison to possession/chances created and I doubt it is Coerberan's doing. On the flip side, of the players that were brought in (DH & RA) will come good and RK I think is a great signing once he settles in. Only thing really to look at is whether there's any free agent strikers looking for clubs? Oumar Niasse? Whilst I agree that we need another striker, I think we are the joint tenth highest scorers in the division and when compared to Expected Goals, we are only a couple down so even a new striker may not have made as much difference as we think. Clearly a Lucas Joao type who created goals out of nothing would have massively improved us, but I am not sure how much better we would have been with any of the rumoured targets yesterday.
|
|
Champers
Andy Booth Terrier
Posts: 3,422
|
Post by Champers on Feb 2, 2021 20:09:13 GMT 1
Did anyone sign Danny Ward ? Why, have you got another Haribo based rib-tickler lined up to enthrall the forum with?
|
|
|
Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Feb 2, 2021 20:32:33 GMT 1
Out of contract in summer 2021 with no apparent extension option Demeaco Duhaney Richard Stearman Out of contract in summer 2021 with confirmed one-year extension option Juninho Bacuna Jaden Brown Fraizer Campbell Tommy Elphick Jonathan Hogg *signed* Isaac Mbenza Alex Pritchard Christopher Schindler Romoney Crichlow Obviously Hoggy has extended, but out of that list I’d keep just Schindler and Crichlow. The rest can go for me, though the club could trigger Bacuna’s extension even if just to bump up any transfer fee.
|
|
|
Post by boooothy on Feb 2, 2021 21:29:23 GMT 1
What’s becoming obvious to me is the reason we can’t get deals done is the ridiculous negotiation tactics we employ.
Pure guess work i assume this is all related to paying Hoyle back.
Signing Holmes on a “free with add ons”. Mooy our best player going out on loan. Grants sale went on months while we agreed repayments over 30 years or something. Aarons messing around until 2 minutes past the cut off, surely the most straight forward transfer ever that all 3 parties desperately wanted.
Now we try buy the Ipswich guy via a loan, then a fee, then massive add ons.
No other club does this!!! Just like they don’t get managers from youth teams in Germany and assistant managers from girls football. The other 91 clubs in the league don’t know what they are doing.
|
|
|
Post by billy143 on Feb 2, 2021 21:38:09 GMT 1
Out of contract in summer 2021 with no apparent extension option Demeaco Duhaney Richard Stearman Out of contract in summer 2021 with confirmed one-year extension option Juninho Bacuna Jaden Brown Fraizer Campbell Tommy Elphick Jonathan Hogg *signed* Isaac Mbenza Alex Pritchard Christopher Schindler Romoney Crichlow Obviously Hoggy has extended, but out of that list I’d keep just Schindler and Crichlow. The rest can go for me, though the club could trigger Bacuna’s extension even if just to bump up any transfer fee. Schindler wanted away last summer, so unfortunately he will be off.
|
|
crux
Jimmy Glazzard Terrier
[M0:0]
Posts: 4,113
Member is Online
|
Post by crux on Feb 2, 2021 21:41:01 GMT 1
What’s becoming obvious to me is the reason we can’t get deals done is the ridiculous negotiation tactics we employ. Pure guess work i assume this is all related to paying Hoyle back. Signing Holmes on a “free with add ons”. Mooy our best player going out on loan. Grants sale went on months while we agreed repayments over 30 years or something. Aarons messing around until 2 minutes past the cut off, surely the most straight forward transfer ever that all 3 parties desperately wanted. Now we try buy the Ipswich guy via a loan, then a fee, then massive add ons. No other club does this!!! Just like they don’t get managers from youth teams in Germany and assistant managers from girls football. The other 91 clubs in the league don’t know what they are doing. Not sure what you'll make of the fact that AFC Wimbledon are looking at a Manager from 'girls football' who actually is 'a girl' 🤔
|
|
|
Post by Porrohman on Feb 2, 2021 21:53:52 GMT 1
What’s becoming obvious to me is the reason we can’t get deals done is the ridiculous negotiation tactics we employ. Pure guess work i assume this is all related to paying Hoyle back. Signing Holmes on a “free with add ons”. Mooy our best player going out on loan. Grants sale went on months while we agreed repayments over 30 years or something. Aarons messing around until 2 minutes past the cut off, surely the most straight forward transfer ever that all 3 parties desperately wanted. Now we try buy the Ipswich guy via a loan, then a fee, then massive add ons. No other club does this!!! Just like they don’t get managers from youth teams in Germany and assistant managers from girls football. The other 91 clubs in the league don’t know what they are doing. Not sure what you'll make of the fact that AFC Wimbledon are looking at a Manager from 'girls football' who actually is 'a girl' 🤔 And has said Wimbledon can't afford her 😁
|
|
crux
Jimmy Glazzard Terrier
[M0:0]
Posts: 4,113
Member is Online
|
Post by crux on Feb 2, 2021 22:34:23 GMT 1
Not sure what you'll make of the fact that AFC Wimbledon are looking at a Manager from 'girls football' who actually is 'a girl' 🤔 And has said Wimbledon can't afford her 😁 Girls are expensive, after 34 years of marriage I can vouch for that 😂😂
|
|
|
Post by odersfeldtowner on Feb 2, 2021 23:07:31 GMT 1
Obviously Hoggy has extended, but out of that list I’d keep just Schindler and Crichlow. The rest can go for me, though the club could trigger Bacuna’s extension even if just to bump up any transfer fee. Schindler wanted away last summer, so unfortunately he will be off. pretty sure Schindler didn't want away last summer. Very much the opposite.
|
|
|
Post by kayeb222 on Feb 3, 2021 2:49:41 GMT 1
And has said Wimbledon can't afford her 😁 Girls are expensive, after 34 years of marriage I can vouch for that 😂😂 you shouldn't be shaggin hookers if you're married!👹😃😂
|
|
|
Post by terriertim on Feb 3, 2021 6:18:07 GMT 1
Did anyone sign Danny Ward ? Why, have you got another Haribo based rib-tickler lined up to enthrall the forum with? Nope - just hope he was gone so the bone idle. injury riddled, waste of a wage was elsewhere. On second thoughts , it would also free up those tasty Haribo delights to maybe tempt another "lets steal a wage before I retire" player on loan from somewhere. Best he stays as his Haribo order is a known quantity that the bean counters at HTFC can work with.
|
|
|
Post by islandterrier9 on Feb 3, 2021 10:11:21 GMT 1
Although we shouldn't be surprised by this sort of thing anymore it is absolutely baffling that a CF wasn't brought in with the serious lack of goals in comparison to possession/chances created and I doubt it is Coerberan's doing. On the flip side, of the players that were brought in (DH & RA) will come good and RK I think is a great signing once he settles in. Only thing really to look at is whether there's any free agent strikers looking for clubs? Oumar Niasse? Whilst I agree that we need another striker, I think we are the joint tenth highest scorers in the division and when compared to Expected Goals, we are only a couple down so even a new striker may not have made as much difference as we think. Clearly a Lucas Joao type who created goals out of nothing would have massively improved us, but I am not sure how much better we would have been with any of the rumoured targets yesterday. You should agree with all of it.....even the Niasse bit is turning out to be correct! hahaha
|
|
|
Post by Jello Biafra on Feb 3, 2021 19:01:35 GMT 1
What’s becoming obvious to me is the reason we can’t get deals done is the ridiculous negotiation tactics we employ. Pure guess work i assume this is all related to paying Hoyle back. Signing Holmes on a “free with add ons”. Mooy our best player going out on loan. Grants sale went on months while we agreed repayments over 30 years or something. Aarons messing around until 2 minutes past the cut off, surely the most straight forward transfer ever that all 3 parties desperately wanted. Now we try buy the Ipswich guy via a loan, then a fee, then massive add ons. No other club does this!!! Just like they don’t get managers from youth teams in Germany and assistant managers from girls football. The other 91 clubs in the league don’t know what they are doing.Strange then that the majority of those 91 clubs are below Town in the league...
|
|
|
Post by boooothy on Feb 3, 2021 19:54:54 GMT 1
What’s becoming obvious to me is the reason we can’t get deals done is the ridiculous negotiation tactics we employ. Pure guess work i assume this is all related to paying Hoyle back. Signing Holmes on a “free with add ons”. Mooy our best player going out on loan. Grants sale went on months while we agreed repayments over 30 years or something. Aarons messing around until 2 minutes past the cut off, surely the most straight forward transfer ever that all 3 parties desperately wanted. Now we try buy the Ipswich guy via a loan, then a fee, then massive add ons. No other club does this!!! Just like they don’t get managers from youth teams in Germany and assistant managers from girls football. The other 91 clubs in the league don’t know what they are doing.Strange then that the majority of those 91 clubs are below Town in the league... Been above the likes of Harrogate is nothing to be proud of. Our relatively high current league position is nothing to do with anyone making decisions right now. In Wagner’s promotion season there was none of this nonsense. We bought the players we needed, sold the ones we didn’t and just got on with it. Imagine that, starting the season with the players you need all ready to go from day 1.
|
|
|
Post by kayeb222 on Feb 4, 2021 1:02:27 GMT 1
I'm sorry guys. I genuinely expected one of the deals over the line last night. We'll forgive you providing you dress up as Terry the terrier for the next 2 home games. Assuming of course that I haven't just inadvertently revealed your true identity!! 👹😂😁 Lol
|
|
|
Post by Henry Mcgee on Feb 4, 2021 8:32:07 GMT 1
What’s becoming obvious to me is the reason we can’t get deals done is the ridiculous negotiation tactics we employ. Pure guess work i assume this is all related to paying Hoyle back. Signing Holmes on a “free with add ons”. Mooy our best player going out on loan. Grants sale went on months while we agreed repayments over 30 years or something. Aarons messing around until 2 minutes past the cut off, surely the most straight forward transfer ever that all 3 parties desperately wanted. Now we try buy the Ipswich guy via a loan, then a fee, then massive add ons. No other club does this!!! Just like they don’t get managers from youth teams in Germany and assistant managers from girls football. The other 91 clubs in the league don’t know what they are doing. If you only look for negatives then you only find negatives. How did we get Spain's under 21 full back from Espanyol? Eiting from Ajax? Arsenal's future superstar on loan last year? The Holmes deal looks excellent business! Corberan himself was great business. Koroma, Grant both looking great work. Agree we've had our share of shit and you can argue that we don't do enough but there's some really good stuff going on too.
|
|
|
Post by boooothy on Feb 4, 2021 9:41:02 GMT 1
What’s becoming obvious to me is the reason we can’t get deals done is the ridiculous negotiation tactics we employ. Pure guess work i assume this is all related to paying Hoyle back. Signing Holmes on a “free with add ons”. Mooy our best player going out on loan. Grants sale went on months while we agreed repayments over 30 years or something. Aarons messing around until 2 minutes past the cut off, surely the most straight forward transfer ever that all 3 parties desperately wanted. Now we try buy the Ipswich guy via a loan, then a fee, then massive add ons. No other club does this!!! Just like they don’t get managers from youth teams in Germany and assistant managers from girls football. The other 91 clubs in the league don’t know what they are doing. If you only look for negatives then you only find negatives. How did we get Spain's under 21 full back from Espanyol? Eiting from Ajax? Arsenal's future superstar on loan last year? The Holmes deal looks excellent business! Corberan himself was great business. Koroma, Grant both looking great work. Agree we've had our share of shit and you can argue that we don't do enough but there's some really good stuff going on too. I haven’t got a clue how we got Pipa or Eiting. I’d be very interested to find out if anyone can shed any light on it.
|
|
|
Post by Drew Peacock on Feb 4, 2021 14:49:06 GMT 1
Strange then that the majority of those 91 clubs are below Town in the league... Been above the likes of Harrogate is nothing to be proud of. Our relatively high current league position is nothing to do with anyone making decisions right now. In Wagner’s promotion season there was none of this nonsense. We bought the players we needed, sold the ones we didn’t and just got on with it. Imagine that, starting the season with the players you need all ready to go from day 1. In the promotion season we had one striker in Nahki Wells, and when we really needed a second option up front we brought in Collin Quaner in January.
|
|
Sparrow
Frank Worthington Terrier
Posts: 1,963
|
Post by Sparrow on Feb 4, 2021 15:00:42 GMT 1
Been above the likes of Harrogate is nothing to be proud of. Our relatively high current league position is nothing to do with anyone making decisions right now. In Wagner’s promotion season there was none of this nonsense. We bought the players we needed, sold the ones we didn’t and just got on with it. Imagine that, starting the season with the players you need all ready to go from day 1. In the promotion season we had one striker in Nahki Wells, and when we really needed a second option up front we brought in Collin Quaner in January. Funny thing is we got Quanner because we couldn't get Danny Ward from Rotherham. We wanted him. He wanted to come. Rotherham wanted his to stay
|
|
|
Post by 19terrier08 on Feb 4, 2021 15:23:52 GMT 1
Looks like bids came in for Pipa, Toffolo and Obrien.
I think we are always analysing the situation.
We are always trying to make the squad stronger. I focus with the players that I have to work with.
I kept players like O'Brien, Pipa and Toffolo who I wanted. I feel proud to work with them.
What I watch is a club who tried everything to try and improve the squad.
|
|
|
Post by captainjack on Feb 4, 2021 21:30:57 GMT 1
Just my opinion, you don’t have to like it or agree with it. Please continue to give your hard earned to a millionaire asset stripper. PH is not asset stripping, he is repaying the loans made to the club by DH, if anyone is to blame for the clubs financial situation its a) DH for demanding the repayment of loans he made to the club over the last ten years, when he was subsidising the club, not you with your reduced price season tickets. b) DH for overseeing a recruitment drive which landed the club with some of the highest paid and underperforming players this club has ever seen. Therefore your castigation of PH and his role in the current running of the club is totally incorrect, in fact he should be thanked for trying to ensure that the club is still here and will hopefully be next season, doesn’t blaming DH for this situation fit your agenda ? 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
|
|
|
Post by boooothy on Feb 5, 2021 10:09:27 GMT 1
It’s a total myth that we over spent in the Premier League. The problem is what we bought we did with those assets.
Had we bought Maddison instead of Pritchard and Traore instead of Diabenza, we’d still be there now. Or if we’d sold our assets prior to that fraud Seawart knocked the value off them all, we’d be 100 million pound better off now.
Anyway, moving on, if we are doing all the due diligence on potential signings about their playing style, fitness, character, ambition etc that Bromby told us all about. That’s a lot of research when you’re bidding last minute for players all over the place.
I suspect this in-depth recruitment process has been replaced with mad panic.
|
|
|
Post by dynastydan on Feb 5, 2021 10:35:33 GMT 1
It’s a total myth that we over spent in the Premier League. The problem is what we bought we did with those assets. Had we bought Maddison instead of Pritchard and Traore instead of Diabenza, we’d still be there now. Or if we’d sold our assets prior to that fraud Seawart knocked the value off them all, we’d be 100 million pound better off now. Anyway, moving on, if we are doing all the due diligence on potential signings about their playing style, fitness, character, ambition etc that Bromby told us all about. That’s a lot of research when you’re bidding last minute for players all over the place. I suspect this in-depth recruitment process has been replaced with mad panic. Bit unfair to call Siewert a fraud. He came into an absolute mess with no experience. He tried to show his authority but in the wrong way due to lack of experience with so called big ego players. Yes he wasnt great, but out of all this he is one of the last people we can blame
|
|
|
Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Feb 5, 2021 10:57:23 GMT 1
It’s a total myth that we over spent in the Premier League. The problem is what we bought we did with those assets. Had we bought Maddison instead of Pritchard and Traore instead of Diabenza, we’d still be there now. Or if we’d sold our assets prior to that fraud Seawart knocked the value off them all, we’d be 100 million pound better off now. Anyway, moving on, if we are doing all the due diligence on potential signings about their playing style, fitness, character, ambition etc that Bromby told us all about. That’s a lot of research when you’re bidding last minute for players all over the place. I suspect this in-depth recruitment process has been replaced with mad panic. What makes you feel think that we could afford Maddison or Traore or that they wanted to come?
|
|
|
Post by boooothy on Feb 5, 2021 11:06:02 GMT 1
It’s a total myth that we over spent in the Premier League. The problem is what we bought we did with those assets. Had we bought Maddison instead of Pritchard and Traore instead of Diabenza, we’d still be there now. Or if we’d sold our assets prior to that fraud Seawart knocked the value off them all, we’d be 100 million pound better off now. Anyway, moving on, if we are doing all the due diligence on potential signings about their playing style, fitness, character, ambition etc that Bromby told us all about. That’s a lot of research when you’re bidding last minute for players all over the place. I suspect this in-depth recruitment process has been replaced with mad panic. What makes you feel think that we could afford Maddison or Traore or that they wanted to come? Traore was very much on the cards. I don’t believe we ever wanted Maddison just that Norwich were selling both for similar amounts. That one is just with hindsight.
|
|
|
Post by Drew Peacock on Feb 5, 2021 11:16:45 GMT 1
What makes you feel think that we could afford Maddison or Traore or that they wanted to come? Traore was very much on the cards. I don’t believe we ever wanted Maddison just that Norwich were selling both for similar amounts. That’s one is just with hindsight. Didn't Maddison leave for double the amount that Pritchard did?
|
|
|
Post by boooothy on Feb 5, 2021 11:21:59 GMT 1
Traore was very much on the cards. I don’t believe we ever wanted Maddison just that Norwich were selling both for similar amounts. That’s one is just with hindsight. Didn't Maddison leave for double the amount that Pritchard did? Yes it was a lot more but only after Norwich had got over their immediate cash flow problem selling Pritchard the previous window. It’s sounds like they had to sell someone that January. Like i say pure hindsight. But the wingers, even if it had been Caveliro (how ever you spell it) it would have been very different.
|
|
|
Post by Convictatthemac on Feb 5, 2021 12:01:31 GMT 1
Didn't Maddison leave for double the amount that Pritchard did? Yes it was a lot more but only after Norwich had got over their immediate cash flow problem selling Pritchard the previous window. It’s sounds like they had to sell someone that January. Like i say pure hindsight. But the wingers, even if it had been Caveliro (how ever you spell it) it would have been very different. My understanding at the time was Pritchard was in the £10m-£12m bracket and Maddison was in the £15m-£18m bracket. Traore had a buyout clause of £18m. I don’t know if we met it but Wolves were definitely in the picture. Did the player choose Wolves over us or did they just outbid us? Someone in the club will know.
|
|