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Post by Melc on Apr 12, 2021 15:55:39 GMT 1
Whats ridiculous is I can get a season ticket for £249, and pay that in August when I've seen pre-season and what kind of squad we might have...but someone who has had one for 25 consecutive years but who refunded or didn't buy this season, perhaps because their finances were compromised as a result of losing a job or being furloughed on 80%, now have to pay £80 *more* than me for the exact same product. Most other subscription based services (which is what football is) offer cash discounts to entice people in. Actually, I quite like the idea of loyalty being rewarded. We see too much of discounts being offered to new customers whilst those who are loyal clients get shafted (e.g. car insurance renewal of £452 when I can get exactly the same cover as a new customer for £274). Depends what you call loyalty..I have been a season ticket/card holder for nearly 50 years, did not take it up last season as I was waiting until the last minute (true yorkshire man) now not only hit with a increase, which I get part of in principle. But being in the senior citizen group, I now find anyone who buys a new season ticket for the first time ever gets it at the same price as me. Thanks for the loyalty not.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Apr 12, 2021 16:20:43 GMT 1
At least we’re all p1 now!
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Post by ilsonterrier on Apr 12, 2021 16:27:10 GMT 1
Actually, I quite like the idea of loyalty being rewarded. We see too much of discounts being offered to new customers whilst those who are loyal clients get shafted (e.g. car insurance renewal of £452 when I can get exactly the same cover as a new customer for £274). Depends what you call loyalty..I have been a season ticket/card holder for nearly 50 years, did not take it up last season as I was waiting until the last minute (true yorkshire man) now not only hit with a increase, which I get part of in principle. But being in the senior citizen group, I now find anyone who buys a new season ticket for the first time ever gets it at the same price as me. Thanks for the loyalty not. I get where you're coming from, but to be fair to the club, they did make it clear that by paying for the current season, you'd get a price freeze for the next 3 years. You could look at it another way - you saved yourself £249 by not buying a ticket this year and it's only costing you £50 more for your ticket next year.
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Post by Melc on Apr 12, 2021 16:40:53 GMT 1
Depends what you call loyalty..I have been a season ticket/card holder for nearly 50 years, did not take it up last season as I was waiting until the last minute (true yorkshire man) now not only hit with a increase, which I get part of in principle. But being in the senior citizen group, I now find anyone who buys a new season ticket for the first time ever gets it at the same price as me. Thanks for the loyalty not. I get where you're coming from, but to be fair to the club, they did make it clear that by paying for the current season, you'd get a price freeze for the next 3 years. You could look at it another way - you saved yourself £249 by not buying a ticket this year and it's only costing you £50 more for your ticket next year. I suppose looking at it like that makes me feel a bit better.
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Post by benhomly on Apr 12, 2021 16:53:09 GMT 1
Ben, Can you explain it for me then please fella The only way I can get near to £100 is by comparing 4 times £249 against 3 times £299 ......but that is comparing four seasons to three ( not the next 3 seasons) and as has been pointed out we got Ifollow access this year (which has to have a value). That's the calculation I made to get to the £100.But then like you say we got ifollow access this year, not that i've used it even once. I'm like Epsom, I can't watch us on telly for some reason. I tape us when we're on Sky, find out the result before watching and 9 times out of 10 I delete it without watching it.
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Post by orinoco on Apr 12, 2021 16:53:55 GMT 1
Depends what you call loyalty..I have been a season ticket/card holder for nearly 50 years, did not take it up last season as I was waiting until the last minute (true yorkshire man) now not only hit with a increase, which I get part of in principle. But being in the senior citizen group, I now find anyone who buys a new season ticket for the first time ever gets it at the same price as me. Thanks for the loyalty not. I get where you're coming from, but to be fair to the club, they did make it clear that by paying for the current season, you'd get a price freeze for the next 3 years. You could look at it another way - you saved yourself £249 by not buying a ticket this year and it's only costing you £50 more for your ticket next year. Very sensible post ilson. Lot of town fans travel from all over the country, that is not an option at moment. If fans are allowed back in by august, will be a 3rd or a quarter of capacity maybe, so if 12k renew, only 6 to 8k will be allowed in. Price increase was going to happen, people want to see live games, season card holders will have now missed out on 27 games in the stadium. People will hold out to see if is worth renewing or not. Dont agree with the june cut off tho and further increase who knows where covid is going.
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Post by willo on Apr 12, 2021 17:09:41 GMT 1
Depends what you call loyalty..I have been a season ticket/card holder for nearly 50 years, did not take it up last season as I was waiting until the last minute (true yorkshire man) now not only hit with a increase, which I get part of in principle. But being in the senior citizen group, I now find anyone who buys a new season ticket for the first time ever gets it at the same price as me. Thanks for the loyalty not. I get where you're coming from, but to be fair to the club, they did make it clear that by paying for the current season, you'd get a price freeze for the next 3 years. You could look at it another way - you saved yourself £249 by not buying a ticket this year and it's only costing you £50 more for your ticket next year. That’s where I’m at, price wise I’m ok with what’s been announced. Still a few hurdles to get over yet though for me to renew. We need to be in the Championship, have had an announcement from the government that we will more than likely be able to get in the ground to see pretty much every game next season, have heard from the club on what it’s intentions are in the transfer market and I’d like our old seats back despite not renewing this season. If I get a tick on these points, I’ll renew.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 12, 2021 18:46:13 GMT 1
Hardly surprising, he’d have to be nuts to put the prices up.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 12, 2021 19:01:30 GMT 1
Where do i buy Terriers on Tour?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 19:47:42 GMT 1
The only issue I have is the 30th June deadline for those that didn’t renew for this season. This is totally unnecessary and borderline stupid. It feels like they are making fans rush into a decision when things, pandemic wise, will probably still be in the air. I cannot see any logical thinking behind that, especially as some of those who didn’t renew for this season may have been financially hit by the ongoing crisis.
Apart from that, the pricing seems right and the ‘reward’ for renewing seems fairly generous. I am probably going to have to ponder long and hard about whether to go for it as I will be ‘in’ for nearly £800. That includes a son who might go away to Uni eventually and another son who has a part time job where he occasionally works Saturdays. I think I might just rock up every now and then when I fancy a day out.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 12, 2021 19:53:46 GMT 1
The only issue I have is the 30th June deadline for those that didn’t renew for this season. This is totally unnecessary and borderline stupid. It feels like they are making fans rush into a decision when things, pandemic wise, will probably still be in the air. I cannot see any logical thinking behind that, especially as some of those who didn’t renew for this season may have been financially hit by the ongoing crisis. Apart from that, the pricing seems right and the ‘reward’ for renewing seems fairly generous. I am probably going to have to ponder long and hard about whether to go for it as I will be ‘in’ for nearly £800. That includes a son who might go away to Uni eventually and another son who has a part time job where he occasionally works Saturdays. I think I might just rock up every now and then when I fancy a day out. Understand your point. Less outlay for me than you but £500 for 2 cards is still a considerable outlay. There’s a few months to go yet so hopefully we’ll be receiving more information re allowed crowd sizes by then . To be fair to the club, I’m sure given the potential circumstances, the deadline may be extended.
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Post by yappledapple on Apr 12, 2021 20:02:24 GMT 1
The only issue I have is the 30th June deadline for those that didn’t renew for this season. This is totally unnecessary and borderline stupid. It feels like they are making fans rush into a decision when things, pandemic wise, will probably still be in the air. I cannot see any logical thinking behind that, especially as some of those who didn’t renew for this season may have been financially hit by the ongoing crisis. Apart from that, the pricing seems right and the ‘reward’ for renewing seems fairly generous. I am probably going to have to ponder long and hard about whether to go for it as I will be ‘in’ for nearly £800. That includes a son who might go away to Uni eventually and another son who has a part time job where he occasionally works Saturdays. I think I might just rock up every now and then when I fancy a day out. Understand your point. Less outlay for me than you but £500 for 2 cards is still a considerable outlay. There’s a few months to go yet so hopefully we’ll be receiving more information re allowed crowd sizes by then . To be fair to the club, I’m sure given the potential circumstances, the deadline may be extended. Town tend to do this though, season after season; they throw out the deadline as they announce the initial release and will then monitor in-house all the renewals and purchase numbers. As the deadline approaches, there is then an extension to the set deadline for a few further weeks (usually announced by SJ at the time!). I wouldn’t therefore be surprised that this is a tried and tested marketing technique to drive quick and early sales. I could though be completely wrong and these dates are set in stone!
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Post by midge on Apr 12, 2021 20:06:08 GMT 1
I very much doubt it, it's ingrained into most footballers these days that they are somehow special when they're really not. Most of them aren't really that talented either. Most are told they are special by pretty much everyone in their lives from the minute they step foot into academies at a very young age. It's a wonder any turn out not to be arseholes tbh. Be interesting to hear your experience of academies that has drawn you to such a sweeping conclusion!?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 12, 2021 20:07:42 GMT 1
Understand your point. Less outlay for me than you but £500 for 2 cards is still a considerable outlay. There’s a few months to go yet so hopefully we’ll be receiving more information re allowed crowd sizes by then . To be fair to the club, I’m sure given the potential circumstances, the deadline may be extended. Town tend to do this though, season after season; they throw out the deadline as they announce the initial release and will then monitor in-house all the renewals and purchase numbers. As the deadline approaches, there is then an extension to the set deadline for a few further weeks (usually announced by SJ at the time!). I wouldn’t therefore be surprised that this is a tried and tested marketing technique to drive quick and early sales. I could though be completely wrong and these dates are set I’m sure you’re right and I do recall previous deadlines been extended. When you consider the marketing aspect you mention and then add the uncertainty re allowed crowd sizes it would seem likely that the deadline could be extended. Too early to tell yet of course.
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Post by herefordaway on Apr 12, 2021 20:09:13 GMT 1
Regarding limiting crowds etc,is it not the case that on 21st June all restrictions will be finished as per the road map?
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Post by dezzly on Apr 12, 2021 20:22:06 GMT 1
Regarding limiting crowds etc,is it not the case that on 21st June all restrictions will be finished as per the road map? If it all goes to plan yes.so would think if all restrictions lifted that’s effectively life back as it was...pre restrictions
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 20:31:40 GMT 1
Regarding limiting crowds etc,is it not the case that on 21st June all restrictions will be finished as per the road map? If it all goes to plan yes.so would think if all restrictions lifted that’s effectively life back as it was...pre restrictions No. Its a common and repeated misconception, but the roadmap doesn't say that at all. It clearly and repeatedly states... "With appropriate mitigations in place"..." some measures may be required even after all adults have been offered a vaccine"..."The Government will ensure the country can live with the virus in the longer-term..The outcome of the four programmes of work set out in chapter 3 (large events, COVID-Certification, international travel and social distancing) will inform Government policy on living with the virus."
source: www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-spring-2021/covid-19-response-spring-2021#roadmap
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 12, 2021 20:40:16 GMT 1
Most are told they are special by pretty much everyone in their lives from the minute they step foot into academies at a very young age. It's a wonder any turn out not to be arseholes tbh. Be interesting to hear your experience of academies that has drawn you to such a sweeping conclusion!? I said most Midge. I’m sure your lad isn’t in that camp. And a fair bit of dealing with footballers and especially academy lads over the last few years actually.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 20:50:07 GMT 1
Most are told they are special by pretty much everyone in their lives from the minute they step foot into academies at a very young age. It's a wonder any turn out not to be arseholes tbh. Be interesting to hear your experience of academies that has drawn you to such a sweeping conclusion!? me too!
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 12, 2021 20:51:26 GMT 1
Be interesting to hear your experience of academies that has drawn you to such a sweeping conclusion!? me too! I’d be interested in you being anything other than a boring condescending fantasist twat for once but I’d wager that won’t be forthcoming either.
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Post by midge on Apr 12, 2021 21:01:01 GMT 1
Be interesting to hear your experience of academies that has drawn you to such a sweeping conclusion!? I said most Midge. I’m sure your lad isn’t in that camp. And a fair bit of dealing with footballers and especially academy lads over the last few years actually. I don’t recognise any of your claims to be honest mate! Very few kids are told they are special, on the contrary the system is pretty tough- that’s what they are exposed to granted, but certainly not the picture you paint! Good to know the boy is excluded anyway! Didn’t know how to break it to him he was destined to be an arsehole😬
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2021 21:10:19 GMT 1
I said most Midge. I’m sure your lad isn’t in that camp. And a fair bit of dealing with footballers and especially academy lads over the last few years actually. I don’t recognise any of your claims to be honest mate! Very few kids are told they are special, on the contrary the system is pretty tough- that’s what they are exposed to granted, but certainly not the picture you paint! Good to know the boy is excluded anyway! Didn’t know how to break it to him he was destined to be an arsehole😬 My son spent a couple of years in the Man U academy and he’s an arsehole. He’d admit it himself. He probably gets it off me. In fact, I think everybody is a bit of an arsehole from time to time. Except Bob Mortimer.
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Post by southowram on Apr 12, 2021 22:22:54 GMT 1
So many casual / glory supporters on this thread. It’s embarrassing to be honest. What happened to - “I’ll buy a ticket and go to games because Town are my team.”? This sort of post, baying to the crowd of 'we're proper fans you're not ...' blah blah...is insulting and demeaning. 'Glory supporters' (what you mean is plastic fans huh) ...We had gates of 12,000 before Wagner came along and SC prices were cut...then another 10,000 turned up (your plastic fans)...filled the stadium and created the best atmosphere ever at the JSS...At Wembley 38,000 (plastic) Town fans turned out to cheer the team to victory...You obviously prefer the club to be the domain of just fans like yourself (proper fans?)...You'd rather have had a half empty stadium while in the PL ? You're stupid. No - I’d rather have a full stadium regardless of the division we’re in. You’re justifying/excusing the people who stop that happening. Isn’t being a fan about supporting the team through highs and lows. Or is it... forget them when they’re not as good - I’ll go back to United and Liverpool on the tele. See you in a few years or maybe sooner if we get a Prem team in the cup.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 12, 2021 22:29:10 GMT 1
This sort of post, baying to the crowd of 'we're proper fans you're not ...' blah blah...is insulting and demeaning. 'Glory supporters' (what you mean is plastic fans huh) ...We had gates of 12,000 before Wagner came along and SC prices were cut...then another 10,000 turned up (your plastic fans)...filled the stadium and created the best atmosphere ever at the JSS...At Wembley 38,000 (plastic) Town fans turned out to cheer the team to victory...You obviously prefer the club to be the domain of just fans like yourself (proper fans?)...You'd rather have had a half empty stadium while in the PL ? You're stupid. No - I’d rather have a full stadium regardless of the division we’re in. You’re justifying/excusing the people who stop that happening. Isn’t being a fan about supporting the team through highs and lows. Or is it... forget them when they’re not as good - I’ll go back to United and Liverpool on the tele. See you in a few years or maybe sooner if we get a Prem team in the cup. Don’t think you have any understanding whatsoever about the people on here that are long standing supporters. By long standing I mean for decades not years.
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Post by southowram on Apr 12, 2021 22:51:44 GMT 1
No - I’d rather have a full stadium regardless of the division we’re in. You’re justifying/excusing the people who stop that happening. Isn’t being a fan about supporting the team through highs and lows. Or is it... forget them when they’re not as good - I’ll go back to United and Liverpool on the tele. See you in a few years or maybe sooner if we get a Prem team in the cup. Don’t think you have any understanding whatsoever about the people on here that are long standing supporters. By long standing I mean for decades not years. What’s your point?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 12, 2021 23:28:16 GMT 1
Don’t think you have any understanding whatsoever about the people on here that are long standing supporters. By long standing I mean for decades not years. What’s your point? That the types of “fans” you are describing are not residing on DATM.
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Post by willo on Apr 13, 2021 0:03:07 GMT 1
Regarding limiting crowds etc,is it not the case that on 21st June all restrictions will be finished as per the road map? If it all goes to plan yes.so would think if all restrictions lifted that’s effectively life back as it was...pre restrictions Not sure about that. I have tickets to see plenty of bands throughout this year and all but those that are down for October/November/December have been pushed back (again) til next year. And I can’t see nightclubs being open in June. Outdoor sporting events,🤞
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Post by dezzly on Apr 13, 2021 6:28:20 GMT 1
Regarding limiting crowds etc,is it not the case that on 21st June all restrictions will be finished as per the road map? If it all goes to plan yes.so would think if all restrictions lifted that’s effectively life back as it was...pre restrictions No. Its a common and repeated misconception, but the roadmap doesn't say that at all. It clearly and repeatedly states... "With appropriate mitigations in place"..." some measures may be required even after all adults have been offered a vaccine"..."The Government will ensure the country can live with the virus in the longer-term..The outcome of the four programmes of work set out in chapter 3 (large events, COVID-Certification, international travel and social distancing) will inform Government policy on living with the virus."
source: www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-spring-2021/covid-19-response-spring-2021#roadmapFair enough yes I wasn’t aware of that.I believed that if the roadmap was followed restrictions were to be lifted.I most likely read that in a newspaper though. Guess will have to wait and see.
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Post by dezzly on Apr 13, 2021 6:42:29 GMT 1
Regarding limiting crowds etc,is it not the case that on 21st June all restrictions will be finished as per the road map? If it all goes to plan yes.so would think if all restrictions lifted that’s effectively life back as it was...pre restrictions No. Its a common and repeated misconception, but the roadmap doesn't say that at all. It clearly and repeatedly states... "With appropriate mitigations in place"..." some measures may be required even after all adults have been offered a vaccine"..."The Government will ensure the country can live with the virus in the longer-term..The outcome of the four programmes of work set out in chapter 3 (large events, COVID-Certification, international travel and social distancing) will inform Government policy on living with the virus."
source: www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-spring-2021/covid-19-response-spring-2021#roadmapIt does also say that the government will be running pilot events throughout April and that the findings of this will determine how to go about staging larger events and how to do so when lifting restrictions. So depending on the findings we could see certain restrictions still in place come the start of the season but others lifted. An example maybe that outdoor sporting events maybe allowed full capacity and when sat watching the game all is as “normal” but initially maybe if you were to go down onto the concourse or when entering the ground possibly masks may still be required.It’s just an example of something they may find works in April. Who knows but I’m fairly confident that can be in the ground in August,certainly if vaccinated. I know that subject throws up another argument altogether but it’s not worth getting into. In short I’m hopeful.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Apr 13, 2021 6:51:25 GMT 1
No. Its a common and repeated misconception, but the roadmap doesn't say that at all. It clearly and repeatedly states... "With appropriate mitigations in place"..." some measures may be required even after all adults have been offered a vaccine"..."The Government will ensure the country can live with the virus in the longer-term..The outcome of the four programmes of work set out in chapter 3 (large events, COVID-Certification, international travel and social distancing) will inform Government policy on living with the virus."
source: www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-spring-2021/covid-19-response-spring-2021#roadmapFair enough yes I wasn’t aware of that.I believed that if the roadmap was followed restrictions were to be lifted.I most likely read that in a newspaper though. Guess will have to wait and see. The government Sports Minister's stated aim is to have 100% attendance at the Euros - with either proof of vaccine passport or on-the-spot lateral flow test allowing entrance. Obviously no guarantees but that's the target. If things continue as now then you'd hope that can be achieved - then onto August.
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